[00:04:20] wait is that hypercane [00:04:34] somehow I totally missed that [00:10:40] raidarr, yep :) [00:10:54] I found it out when I was checking his Scratchpad Wiki more [02:23:25] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1528225720617275442/img_1_1784427672000.jpg?ex=6a5d869c&is=6a5c351c&hm=c1bb44599c8cfb6c359b9f64ec7432b4a90951ed054129fa2fad444f04618e02& [02:26:50] For those unaware, jimothy is a new beautiful cryptid in my neck of the woods [02:29:48] oh [02:29:52] what's a cryptid? [02:31:59] lol yeah it's me [02:32:36] Basically folklore creatures, most commonly those whose existence has never been proven [02:33:01] But there is an insistance that they exist [02:33:16] Like a sasquatch or a loch ness monster [02:33:35] Jimothy, however, is real and dicumented [02:34:31] *documented [02:42:06] I was sleeping at that time and now invitation link expired. I blame WWR Minion :< [02:42:18] >:) [02:42:29] laughs in superior timezone [02:44:38] I can handle momentarily [02:44:48] Side note, congrats on becoming a global patroller! [02:52:32] @notaracham: ah, ok :) [03:54:51] I'm on a train from the 80's. [03:54:55] Very fun. [04:15:13] Like I said, Fandom is a good place if you're an advertiser, but a lot of businesses are competing for that space on their ad platform [04:16:17] If I wanna advertise my business, I might use Fandom for it [04:18:00] [1/2] hi everyone [04:18:00] [2/2] haven't talked here in a long time (and never talked here on this account lol) [04:18:11] i used to be ellie if anyone remembers [04:18:51] I'm sorry, what? It's a wiki farm? I thought it's an ad placement business [04:21:54] bro is orange [04:22:40] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1293316535707893780/1462514863405400115/image0.gif [04:22:43] man what the hell 😭 [04:25:00] [1/6] List of wiki farms: [04:25:00] [2/6] - Miraheze [04:25:00] [3/6] - wiki.gg [04:25:01] [4/6] List of ad placement agencies: [04:25:01] [5/6] - Fandom [04:25:01] [6/6] - ... [04:39:38] Why are you responding to your own message lol. [04:40:04] Continuation of my message [05:18:27] Ja-orange [05:18:50] https://klipy.com/gifs/deltarune-delta-rune-59 [05:20:10] thanks! [06:38:37] did the link only last for like 1h or something [06:38:37] odd [06:45:41] Probably a security thing, it's not unusual. [06:45:58] It'll likely have been set to single use as well. [08:33:52] its funny because I had hypercane on one mind as just someone who fell through and then I only saw you on wikioasis and, being less involved when you came in, just assumed you were kind of random but not the worst random the project brought in then. so that's pretty neat [14:21:25] i thought that was dream indigo from wikioasis for a second [16:42:15] [1/3] A good way to tell how Fandom is horrible (without telling it has spammed advertisements): [16:42:15] [2/3] Fandom.com - very unreliable; meaning mostly unofficial wikis. [16:42:15] [3/3] Miraheze.org - very reliable; meaning mostly official wikis. [16:50:48] * dmehus is super excited that Cloudflare can now process .ca domain registrations and he can consolidate his domains with one provider [16:54:55] [1/3] that's a very interesting reading of things, even if it's not based in reality much [16:54:56] [2/3] in truth .org and .com can both be registered by almost anyone for almost anything regardless of reliability or how official it is [16:54:56] [3/3] (though i have heard .org is more used often for nonprofit projects like miraheze) [16:57:13] what about mariowiki.com? [16:57:42] obviously, an exception to your view, but still [17:00:16] welp, I've made a dumb claim? [17:01:02] not necessarily [17:01:34] but to me, it's not as simple as it seems [17:01:47] there are indeed official and reliable .com and .org sites (no idea how official but idk mariowiki seems reliable enough???), just the TLDs itself doesn't ensure it or really have many restrictions on what the site could be used for or anything [17:02:11] .wiki domains, for example, are usually either excellent independent wikis or garbage AI slop ones [17:03:19] e.g. minecraft.wiki or vampire.survivors.wiki are excellent .wiki wikis, but some domain snipers may take a new steam game's name with the .wiki domain and create an ai slop wiki with no info. e.g. mecchachameleon.wiki [17:04:58] [1/2] for every freecard.xyz there's a freecard.com and a freecard.org [17:04:58] [2/2] malicious sites use these TLDs to instill some kind of trust in the user often, so i'd caution against letting it influence your thoughts on any given website much (unless you're going to goggle-search.tv but that's on you) [17:06:04] but it is still interesting that fandom uses .com, more associated with commercial entities while miraheze uses .org, more associated with nonprofit entities [17:06:20] and you have wiki.gg, which is neither [17:06:58] and wiki.gg is known for having plenty of good and curated wikis too [17:07:22] also, not all miraheze wikis are necessarily "good" per se [17:07:43] what i said applies to a lot of TLDs, both ways [17:08:03] sure, there are a lot of good wikis on the platform, and all mh wikis share the advantages of no ads and high customizability [17:08:23] but some are good in terms of documentation, others sit empty or are just random/slop wikis [17:08:40] (to be fair i wasn't particularly even talking about the quality of wikis on any given TLD, just broadly) [17:08:44] but it's inevitably for any wiki host that doesn't have any curated host [17:09:05] like fandom [17:09:35] fandom has an objectively bad reading experience, but some fandom wikis, particularly ones that didn't fork yet, are good in content [17:09:47] and most of the other ones are slop [17:12:59] like I said, too many variables to consider what is "good" and what is "bad" [17:17:53] `Also Taerel.com, no ads, .com domain [17:30:41] Aside from reserved TLDs (e.g. govt domains like .gov), the 'officialness' of certain TLDs is much less a thing in this era of the internet. [17:31:06] Used to be only a .com or a .org were trustworthy as the real site, but now you've got all sorts of legitimate things using wild endings [17:31:30] .biz has remained sketchy as hell, though. [17:32:13] @notaracham: yeah, I agree. and maybe some small island nation ccTLDs that are leased out to sketchy operators [17:32:41] There are some TLD that still enforce locality (like .bzh checks if you actually live or work in Brittany, but that's pretty much the only thing you can guess from tlds [17:33:10] not sure I agree on .biz. why do you think it's sketchy? [17:33:29] I have a .info domain, too; I feel they're about the same [17:42:37] It may have improved, but in the past it was rife with businesses that would pop up then vanish overnight after bilking folks out of money [17:43:19] (At least that was my experience in a certain era of internet) [17:48:45] Good to have my own priors about TLDs checked though. 😄 [17:53:11] true [18:06:31] Fandom is done for lol [18:14:59] Fandom is faeces coated in gold [18:21:15] or rat turds covered in feces [18:21:57] the big problem for me is the interface design is so cookie cutter and unintuitive, and the placement of the ads very haphazard, prominent and not conducive to reading or editing [18:58:18] that's a new low [18:58:30] [1/2] thought fandom couldn't get lower [18:58:30] [2/2] sounds like i was wrong [18:58:58] okay but now they can file a dmca through fandom's own system [18:59:14] smiles [18:59:16] That's the neat part, they already did [18:59:19] And it did not work [18:59:20] ^ [18:59:23] i saw that article [18:59:34] and they said "it's just an coincidence lol" [18:59:40] basically [19:00:01] It's not like they never respond to DMCAs or defend theft on their platform [19:00:02] very bs esp when wg/gta wiki actually investigated it [19:00:22] But here, they doubled down on how what the GTA Fandom Wiki did is not plagiarism [19:00:29] (Spoilers: it is!) [19:01:18] Yes, it's a given that facts or some aspects of shared formatting and templates cannot be plagiarized, but specific data tables and especially paragraphs can be, which were copied in the first place [19:09:07] [1/2] someone oughta remake this icon [19:09:08] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1528478814932566238/image.png?ex=6a5e7253&is=6a5d20d3&hm=9732f990feeea6c0753b77f18eb8c86e95d451b004e6021f3cc317216291bd3b& [19:29:41] It's a mostly dead project anyway [19:29:57] it is? [19:30:03] that's unfortunate [19:30:53] The site has been broken on and off for a while [19:30:58] It's supposedly coming back one day [19:44:54] I haven't heard about WikiApiary in ages... [19:45:11] probably like 8 years since I last used it. [20:18:18] https://fixupx.com/harristic_/status/2078889303388586433?s=46&t=ZFjL77_0KhHB97mL3JDTIw [20:18:30] Speak of the devil [20:20:42] fandom is getting desperate [20:20:47] i can feel it lol [20:21:12] [1/2] they are forcing the ai tools onto wikis that desperately dont need one at all [20:21:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1528496954877935630/image.png?ex=6a5e8338&is=6a5d31b8&hm=0c8293f5cce6e99e6667d65e3b5eb7347d28d01656c6421957816d1c4dba6a1e& [20:23:19] [1/2] Oh, I know [20:23:19] [2/2] In fact, I found this out on my own and told them about it lol [20:25:00] But I think Harri probably independently discovered it too [20:41:47] yep, thought the exact same thing [22:22:12] just gonna cc @blankeclair right quick because [22:22:16] found a new cursed wiki https://motorwayservices.uk [22:47:41] No wonder why 95% AI projects fail [22:49:36] Create the problem, sell the solution. And the solution doesn't even solve anything. [23:01:28] Britain and Australia have a lot of weird wikis dedicated to themselves [23:02:35] I remember for awhile Equestripedia was the third largest wiki dedicated to a toy, next to tfwiki and a British toy manufacturing wiki. [23:04:37] (That figure is probably outdated I think there are bigger toy wikis now) [23:44:33] [1/2] huh, fandom isn't having the number of statblocks on lucifer's megami tensei page [23:44:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1528548129517867190/image.png?ex=6a5eb2e1&is=6a5d6161&hm=c3b2b15058600c44b41d933848eb69e3e1e96d070280bfc995b54fa96536cd90& [23:46:30] we love to see it happen [23:47:28] No idea what is that [23:47:57] seems like some sort of lua script failed? [23:52:23] well you see the big red bold text does say what the error is [23:53:58] oh, the text a bit small, fandom server got overloaded?