[00:09:31] Someone is deliberately taking .wiki domain names for newly released roblox names [00:09:40] [00:09:51] [00:10:09] Beware as some of them seem to redirect to badware [00:10:25] Idk if this happens to any other games out of roblox [00:10:57] [00:11:01] yea sadly very common for not only roblox games but other games too [00:11:07] the sites are almost entirely ai generated [00:11:12] :ThinkerMH: [00:11:21] I have a hunch it might be fandom [00:11:27] mixed with some bad actors [00:12:28] no? its just someone wanting to make a quick buck [00:12:48] domain sniping and sitting are tales as old as times [00:12:58] None of them have ads [00:13:08] Except one that just redirected to malware [00:13:13] i am unable to even view them on mobile [00:13:19] malware is what gets you the bucks [00:13:36] But they are specifically targeting .wiki domains [00:14:10] they rank very low in search results and the fandom ones beats them [00:14:53] scammers will do the thing that gets them the bucks, that involves following trends like .wiki domains [00:16:06] any real site will destroy them in SEO, google isnt a fan of fully ai generated sites [00:16:08] idk just feels like a niche thing for someone to be targetting [00:16:19] money [00:16:38] namecheap would sell that domain for pocket change the first year [00:17:09] have you seen any of the domains expire so far? [00:17:32] its not been a year since the trend started [02:56:27] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1529683586494500924/20260722_171831.jpg?ex=6a62d45b&is=6a6182db&hm=f25bdb360c06a9b262557d3b2d713816282fc5bd8f1ab3a5d02e096acfb08261& [03:10:08] macca [06:06:44] s [06:36:33] s [06:37:45] sh [06:46:29] COMBO BREAKER >:( [06:46:59] shhhh [07:08:33] 😭 [07:12:54] ok [08:04:05] [1/6] giving notes/summaries of deltarune Device Theory to one of my oomfies [08:04:06] [2/6] so far im on [08:04:06] [3/6] - 3 chapters [08:04:06] [4/6] - 18 sections [08:04:06] [5/6] - 151 notes [08:04:07] [6/6] and i haven't even gotten to the theory itself yet that's just prelude and evidence and context [08:05:58] write a book [08:06:40] I feel like at that point you should have given them an abstract first. [08:08:36] whats an oomfie [08:09:09] one of my friends? [08:12:58] One Of My Friends (Ireland), maybe? [08:13:07] Not sure where the ie comes in. [08:17:18] or uh [08:17:24] let me think [08:17:31] like cutie [08:17:33] or uhhh [08:17:40] patootie [08:17:57] That would make more sense, to be honest. [08:18:22] nukesme on IRC? [08:18:26] yeah [08:18:32] why [08:18:39] idk [08:18:42] omg its raining [08:19:11] AAAAA MY IP [08:19:17] its a Poland IP [08:19:17] dw its 127.0.0.1 [08:19:22] yeah [08:19:48] your name is weird I don't recognize it [08:20:01] wdym [08:20:24] the number in your name has dashes instead dots in an IP address [08:20:34] and it has the sta.asta-net.com.pl [08:20:39] weird [08:20:58] r u on chrome [08:21:05] firefox [08:21:17] [1/2] firefox 153 :O https://www.firefox.com/en-US/firefox/153.0/releasenotes/ [08:21:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1529765334226305134/obraz.png?ex=6a63207d&is=6a61cefd&hm=32f4ad511d860d9284db923a9a8c6e87770171d155c04fedb1f75570ccd5fdba& [08:21:30] pshhhh lookat dis firefox user [08:21:37] yeah [08:21:49] wait [08:21:53] do you use the VPN [08:21:56] nah [08:22:02] ok phew [08:23:17] bye, high [08:23:20] sigh hawaii [08:23:27] we never meant to part [08:23:29] sublime [08:23:33] thy art [08:23:35] one [08:23:37] light [08:23:42] higher than the suuuuuuuun [08:23:46] invisible to some [08:23:47] until [08:23:49] it's time [08:24:46] ok [08:25:46] *drowns sadly* [08:26:14] *pings himself <@nukesme>* [08:26:31] i mean @nukesme [08:27:52] *leaves irc* [08:28:44] left irc [12:12:36] @nukesme joined [12:12:47] @nukesme left [12:41:18] @MirahezeRelay STOP PINGING ME [13:01:46] It's what happened if u became his sidekick [13:02:00] if you be my sidekick, there will be less pinging :) [13:26:29] lol [14:06:52] what if you became nukesme's sidekick [14:06:57] extend the minion chain [14:43:32] idk why did I put this as a pfp [14:52:08] Xxxtentacles [16:42:28] yes [17:00:19] :stare: [17:01:56] done [17:03:24] is waterfox any good [17:07:52] `Waterfox is an open-source, privacy focused browser` [17:08:04] https://klipy.com/gifs/buzz-lightyear-meme-2 [17:32:08] I wish [17:51:20] meh I'm not a fan of Firefox-based browsers, though Zen Browser folks are doing some interesting things [17:53:14] [1/2] Privacy-focused browsers cause all sorts of problems with websites you use regularly, having to re-authenticate with two-factor authentication every time. I was using Zoho's browser called Ulaa Browser for the longest time. It was fine, but did cause sub-optimal problems from that perspective. I've gone back to plain vanilla Google Chrome and just sucked it up I'm part of the Google [17:53:15] [2/2] ecosystem 🙁 [17:57:06] there are dual approaches to that question [17:57:30] sites like to punish you with inconvenience if they can't molest you as freely as chrome permits and invites them to [17:58:01] I like, in my own insignificant way, to punish sites that think like that with less business, discouraging of their use and support of their alternatives or the intention to if none currently exist [17:58:57] there are angles this gets complicated since captcha systems by virtue of not being able to use those same technologies have a bone for people who are not as inviting [18:18:07] > sites like to punish you with inconvenience if they can't molest you as freely as chrome permits and invites them to [18:18:07] true, that's a good and interesting way of putting it [18:18:58] > I like, in my own insignificant way, to punish sites that think like that with less business, discouraging of their use and support of their alternatives or the intention to if none currently exist [18:18:58] yes, but, for me, I feel slightly inconvenienced having to use two-factor authentication every time on my home PC for my primary banking site, for example [18:20:12] Government of Canada's online account is extraordinarily cumbersome if using Interac Single Sign-On. You first need MFA for that, then MFA to sign in to My Service Canada Account and CRA My Account, which aren't integrated. [18:20:36] They do, however, allow passcode grids as a backup MFA method for the latter case, which is good [18:28:55] i just deal with the heart-stoppingly terrible unbearable mild inconvenience of having to use an auth code every time it really isn't bad compared to the bloat and tracking of the other browsers [18:29:53] every little inconvenience and time im asked something twice is a sign to me that it's working well enough [18:34:58] government sites in particular, and most finance, I process with a separate and isolated browsing flow because they don't and they won't behave [18:35:13] but even then I will not stoop to chrome [18:35:34] I'll just be that dick on the phone in the worst case scenario if it comes to it [18:53:48] dmehus: that sounds awful [18:54:03] At least we have a one login programme for basically everything other than HMRC [19:08:09] RhinosF1: yeah [19:08:22] yours sounds better [19:08:59] it was likely the Government of Canada's knee-jerk reaction following at least two cyberattacks against the CRA (our revenue collection agency) :( [19:09:16] One login is a government aspiration being rolled out [19:09:18] The idea is better [19:09:25] yep [19:09:29] 💯 [19:09:51] Although given it was GDS who no longer exist running it, we'll see if it ends up still progressing [19:10:17] > I'll just be that dick on the phone in the worst case scenario if it comes to it [19:10:17] @raidarr: lol true [19:11:24] Looks like DCMS have taken over the GDS function with the machinery of government changes as a result of DSIT being closed by Burnham [20:19:10] is that supposed to mean anything? [20:26:12] I feel like I should send my obilligatory, Firefox won't eat all your ram, and is highly customizable and is also open source. [20:32:15] yeah but its snippy, not worth thinking into [20:32:50] Very worth thinking into [20:33:03] is it cause most browsers advertise themselves as that? [20:33:32] limited exposure to a handful of firefox based browsers that are on about privacy [20:34:06] maybe not even firefox since some chromium are included but regardless, [20:34:34] despite that being niche for a reason and a microscopic percentile of market share, there being less than a handful worth considering, and it illustrating an apparent and growing market for such a thing despite the mainstream browsers perfectly representing that image [20:35:10] so as I gather its a pretty dumb comment but given how casual and with a twinge of contempt it is I conclude its not really worth engaging with [20:43:29] oh wow, we missed World Emoji Day last week (https://depositphotos.medium.com/%EF%B8%8F-happy-world-emoji-day-amazing-facts-about-the-youngest-alphabet-on-earth-13d406d30e18) [20:45:56] [1/2] Mainstream browsers have set the baseline, so any proposed alternative would need to advertise something else that worksbetter. Being privacy-focused is an easy win, made even easier by the fact that changing FF default setting alone goes a long way. [20:45:56] [2/2] Of course, there are other aspects to improve upon, such as performance (e.g. compile with AVX2 by default) or features, but those require more work. [20:49:42] I mean firefox is pretty privacy focused if you choose all the right settings [20:49:53] you just have to actually bother to look at the settings [20:50:23] I mean firefox now auto redirects your DNS requests to a provider of your choosing regardless of your internet connection settings [20:53:25] bothering to look at those plus also dig around in about config to optimize a whole extra slew of more obscure yet useful options is a level of friction that itself creates a market for someone doing it in the first place [20:53:57] and as for firefox adding things its a bit like graphene's relationship to android, sure, android eventually tends to bake security things in... maybe [20:54:12] which isn't to say most often these are security changes because I know that would be the next tangent [20:54:25] My issue with the alt browsers is, okay so you have someone setting better defaults, but what ELSE are they doing? [20:55:07] atleast with mainstream you atleast know the company behind it, and its not just some persons putting something out there [20:55:49] [1/2] sometimes I like just having a smaller team of people who share my principles being the first line of defense against catatonic stupid from the bigger entity tbh, which is why I lean towards librewolf despite thinking it would be perfectly acceptable to then disable a majority of its more inconvenient settings. Big enough to not be some rando, but not so big it is an entity with a CE [20:55:49] [2/2] O harping on about how to AI and sustain adtech and overpay themselves millions [20:55:58] which is basically the linux mint niche now that I think of it [20:56:50] zen, floorp are more unique in that domain with completely different presentations and their own homebrew features [20:57:00] waterfox I've always had a harder time justifying [20:57:39] for a rando who thinks like my initial bit about an abstraction layer, maybe that is good enough, for me its not really enough and I probably would settle for just configuring firefox if it was my only option [20:57:39] didn't waterfox get obtained by an ad company [20:57:51] waterfox got it back but it isn't their best moment for sure [20:58:04] since that's the first thing many people will forever think about now [21:01:58] I guess my point is I rather know who is working and coding my browser, and knowing theres not some hidden malicious nonsense baked in it, then running that risk with an alt browser [21:06:33] I mean you can make that determination with any alt browser and if you decide you trust them or not to do that, if you'd rather stick with the source pipe anyway I don't think less of you for that [21:08:30] [1/2] heck that's a lot of the waterfox pitch too because they go out of their way to be an explicit legal entity, although I don't find the existence of such an entity to itself be an indicator of trustworthiness, size big or small to inherently suggest that what comes through the pipe is competent or desired (just different considerations), or the fact 'well its firefox' to make them imp [21:08:30] [2/2] ervious to a hack, malicious incident or a critical vulnerability where the problem is then negligence which feels no better when I take the consequences [21:09:12] it is true you should think a lot harder about the active malice or basic mistake concerns when its some dude who if nothing else will take the whole project with them if the bus factor shows up [21:09:40] it is my primary concern with ublock origin, yet on other factors I have more faith in UBO than any particular browser vendor [21:10:14] if gorhill could reasonably sustain a full browser he'd have my absolute support every day over every other, but of course that is infeasible [21:11:25] I know who's working on chrome generally speaking, yet I think once we've reached that observation its obvious that alone doesn't offer much confidence [21:11:36] Just don't use Brave™ :p [21:11:39] in your case you have the unique perspective of involvement which by circumstances I do not and cannot share [21:12:04] and my confidence in firefox making good decisions has fallen hard over the years and there's not much to be done short of some pretty radical shifts [21:12:26] like what? [21:12:41] @raidarr: interesting you like uBlock Origin. Ulaa Browser had uBlock Origin natively built into the browser. I did not find it that helpful [21:13:15] kind of hard to say because the main consideration of firefox seems to be solvency and I do not know how they can fix the fact google is a majority reason propping them up [21:14:27] For me, yeah, Firefox seems to be a bit scattershot in their product strategy. One minute they decide to pivot and offer their own VPN, then they partner with Mullvad. There was also the whole Pocket thing. Weren't they in online storage at one time, too? [21:14:50] If they keep pulling new products, it weakens consumer trust their data will remain [21:15:41] I like the Firefox single sign-on though. [21:15:48] [1/2] everything else regarding firefox more incidental to the funding question which I don't tend to focus on anyway, but I think if they put more care to their mobile browser, had better communications people to manage things, took care to cultivate their image so I am not wondering wtf they are doing when they're blasting millions at their CEO and complaining about money, and maybe took [21:15:48] [2/2] some more frequent inspiration from forks/extensions for desirable features while omitting ventures like pocket in the first place (but for me this is largely selfish) then I would have a more positive image [21:16:58] what I want I have to reconcile with the fact it is incompatible to how money flows so there is some need to separate what I want wich realistically can only ever be achieved by opinionated forking from what is plausible for a large public facing entity with big pocketbooks to actually do [21:18:25] I kinda agree their communications can lack a bit, I think that issues stems from atleast for FF is that they the desktop devs, and then the mobile teams seperated by Android and iOS, and then very little interaction is done directly with all 3 teams with the support team, with the desktop team being more interactive with the support team. [21:18:51] so there are a few starting places, but as I have no influence or ability to help I suppose it is a moot matter [21:19:10] *enters the Mozilla slack chat* [21:19:29] enter slack chat, tell them to do better, they say okie then and life continues [21:19:41] I can't think of much I can offer they can actually pick up on or don't already know [21:19:59] Doesn't hurt to continue to bring it up to them though [21:20:11] go for it [21:20:26] and if someone wants an opinionated rando like me then I'm around [21:20:34] [1/2] > Just don't use Brave™ :p [21:20:35] [2/2] @dmehus well you see I have an iPhone and Brave's the only major browser with a good builtin adblocker. the alternative is opera but that blocker isn't as good and I didn't like the browser either [21:21:25] @thewwrnerdguy: fair. I only used the Windows version and didn't like the experience [21:22:03] I've always thought the way they split the teams was a net negative for communication because we then have to play telephone a lot. I kinda wish they'd almost do a revamp completely of all 3 major platforms for FF, and get them all on a similar starting point and then work out from there, because the variation of features alone is so out there for me [21:22:15] [1/3] the value I get from ublock origin is twofold. I find it to be the best/most trustworthy adblock tool which is maintained on spite. I don't require something to refuse donations but with the record it has I consider it a bonus to its character. It is super rare to come across anything of that category alone. But the deeper value is its advanced content controls which I use extensivel [21:22:15] [2/3] y to not just refuse things but to opt into them. It is a terrible browsing experience which I don't recommend for most people, but on an internet where most sites are trying to strip your agency I find it empowering just shy of umatrix which is a little much for me tbh. But that second part takes it from badness enumeration to active control on sessions I don't have otherwise isolat [21:22:16] [3/3] ed and disposable [21:22:41] Have you played around with DNS-based ad blockers like ControlD or Pi-hole at all? [21:23:17] dns blockers are a blunter tool which I also use but are less effective for certain utilities, for example, I never ever see ads on youtube, and this is primarily at the ubo in-browser level [21:23:26] @raidarr: true [21:24:01] I use adblock plus on FF and it seems to do a comparable job to UBO [21:24:04] what about DuckDuckGo Browser? anyone used that recently? [21:24:04] selective content control and persistent rules for pages are another ubo aspect I find valuable [21:24:24] adblock plus is #2 for simple anti ad effectiveness for me and is a respectable choice [21:24:59] I've not been blocking any ads recently, but I do hate the autoplaying video ads [21:25:05] ddg browser I do not find really adds enough and tends to come on a core I find less, hard to explain but I would say less elegant than things I can use instead [21:25:11] They're highly intrusive to the web browsing experience [21:25:21] I consider adblock a basic security and privacy action which is extremely easy to do [21:25:42] if they were only obnoxious I would just be an ahole who is extreme about page rendering [21:26:04] heh I guess that's true [21:26:45] instead they are the backbone of cross internet tracking/malicious behavior, are used to circumvent even the formality of a secret court to stalk you by government entities, are a leading delivery vessel for malware, and waste an ungodly volume of time and energy and simple resources to transmit and then render [21:27:06] in fact you probably would have had a much better time on your old hardware if you took this approach because I guarantee a majority of the BS was just adtech garbage [21:40:13] [1/2] > https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1225560610628964423/1529966138023350302 [21:40:13] [2/2] So apparently every steward has a todo list, good to know [21:40:48] That means I probably am the most disorganized WikiOasis Global Administrator ever lol [21:44:24] can i consider waterfox to even be safe [21:44:41] i wanna use it but i hold my suspicions [21:49:37] who needs a to do list when you can keep it all in your head. that also helps you prioritise things, as if you forget it, it's not important [21:49:46] proceeds to forget to do everything [21:50:06] Ah yes I have an memory that basically cuts itself in half [21:50:31] And basically hard delete like linux delete root when it's a boring task [21:50:55] @thewwrnerdguy: that used to be me, and largely still is, but I have noticed I occasionally forget things (usually ends up being some seemingly innocuous work-related thing though) [21:52:31] nothing occasional about it, I barely ever remember what I had for lunch, there's no way I'm remembering random task #50 [21:52:56] Lists and calendars weren't a strategy I started developing until the number of things started to exceed my active recall, sometime around my early to mid 20s I think. [21:53:08] @thewwrnerdguy: 💯 true [21:53:09] But as the number of things I needed to track and do continued to grow, so did the need. [21:53:29] I don't think every steward does it the same way, but each has a strategy [21:53:40] [1/3] I sometimes forgot [21:53:40] [2/3] "Did I ate or not" [21:53:40] [3/3] And rarely forgot to eat [21:53:44] That was awhile ago thankfully [21:54:36] A private Phorge board for every steward makes a lot of sense (if Phorge boards work for them, of course) [21:55:17] There's a couple projects in the works that should hopefully make some big headway on this, though who knows when it'll come to pass [21:55:40] [1/2] I'll probably need one when I'm at university [21:55:40] [2/2] Well what's your strategy, I'm curious about it [21:55:53] WO's unified request portal (despite some growing pains) is quite instructive on what this could look like. [21:55:56] @notaracham: yeah, Reception123 was telling me that. Sort of a re-working of SR into an Extension Skye was working on? [21:56:22] was=is* [21:56:32] Nothing set in stone yet, but yeah, that's one route being considered [21:56:36] It seems like the WOP is getting high praise from you guys, zippy is truely amazing [21:57:17] it also screams vibe coded and is probably riddled with security vulnerabilities [21:57:42] It should probably go through a Clair test [21:57:50] Fair, see also: growing pains. [21:58:10] Tech is basically ran by 1 man so...that's something [21:58:11] @originalauthority: potentially, yeah. could also be a good starting point to code review thoroughly and work off of [21:58:30] But as a general idea of where we could go, I like not having 1 million venues and a simplified queue/single place to go to triage [21:58:47] You need multiple people (with different views) to cover the most ground imo [21:59:15] dmehus: vibe coded things shouldn't be reused if they weren't done properly [21:59:21] I remember suggesting building something like this not long ago and the consensus was "get something off the shelf so we don't have to maintain it ourselves" 🤷🏼‍♂️ [21:59:21] It will be faster to redo it [21:59:37] You can use AI well if you know what you're doing [21:59:44] RhinosF1 and originalauthority: ah [21:59:49] Yeah, we'd looked at using the off the shelf WMF account request solution [22:00:04] That's not really off the shelf [22:00:05] That project had gotten decently far along, but kept hitting stumbling box [22:00:10] It's just not maintained by us [22:00:12] vibe coding = okay personal side projects then [22:00:34] Also https://bash.toolforge.org/quip/7dfGZo4BGiVuUzOdfeV2 [22:00:36] not that I forget to eat, the human reaction of hunger is enough to remind me, but in uni I would frequently forget to make dinner until it's 8pm and I realise I'm hungry [22:01:03] dmehus: you can use AI to help you in a professional role as long as you know what you're doing [22:01:06] @notaracham: what solution was that? do you have the link handy? [22:01:06] It can be done well [22:01:15] RhinosF1: agree [22:01:19] You have to treat it like a dumb intern [22:01:25] Ah, @pixldev would probably remember, I think he put the most hours into that avenue [22:01:32] And not be a dumb intern yourself [22:01:41] yep, be very explicit with it [22:01:59] Our security consultant at work has found getting it to write docs and asking it to refer back to them and keep checking they are right helps [22:02:13] every detail needs to be imagined/envisioned, from security through to UI [22:02:14] It's definitely made things a lot faster and still a reasonably high quality [22:02:35] But he has the skill to architect the solution, built the base and got AI to build it out [22:02:41] yeah, writing docs seems like a very good use case [22:02:59] I've also seen a consultant who had no fucking clue just follow AI blind and end up bricking a computer [22:03:12] ah, yikes [22:03:22] dmehus: no just writing docs, asking it to writing the docs as it codes and constantly checking the docs are still accurate [22:03:38] ah [22:04:11] I've been pretty impressed with the output of Claude on that project [22:04:19] It's definitely a dumb intern [22:04:46] But I don't have any dumb interns to do the work so it's been better the consultant trying it out than not having anyone to do it [22:05:27] speaking of Account Vanishing, I've been wondering if Wikimedia adapted CA's RemovePII extension code base for [[mw:Extension:CentralAuth/Global Vanishing]] [22:05:27] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CentralAuth/Global_Vanishing [22:05:58] I don't believe so no [22:06:01] ah [22:50:59] I don't have cause to consider it a day to day risk