[03:12:04] What tags should imports have? I see some with MW SRE and ImportDump, others with MW SRE and MW [03:13:15] wait import dump is the extention [03:13:17] mb [03:13:50] lmao CA beat me to fixing it [03:14:05] was wondering why the tag change was erroring [03:49:44] oh lol, I didn't see this, but the ImportDump tag is for issues affecting the ImportDump extension not for imports (confusing, I know) lol [12:00:27] failed bureau rights on wiki creation bug is back? [12:06:46] nvm I'm just dumb [13:37:13] Can rename the board or even better the extension [16:22:09] Did we have a status page site? I see mention to it in [[Tech:On-Off Boarding]] [16:22:11]

[16:22:20] Yes [16:22:37] We still do [16:22:49] https://status.miraheze.wiki [16:22:56] It's barely used though [16:23:07] status.miraheze.org now [16:23:29] CosmicAlpha: err why [16:23:44] they want to drop miraheze.wiki [16:23:47] Was gonna say. For me the link it borked [16:23:49] What if there's a typo in MH.org dns [16:23:50] agent said so at least [16:23:51] Boooo [16:24:03] Or mh.org expires [16:24:12] miraheze.wiki is no longer used for services but I don't know if we will completely drop miraheze.wiki [16:24:12] There was logic behind it using another domain [16:24:23] then miraheze.wiki would go down also [16:24:23] Anyways @cosmicalpha can I update the page Raul? [16:24:24] Although I'd rather that other domain use other dns [16:24:34] Curse you auto correct [16:25:05] The logic is supposed to catch something wrong with Miraheze.org as a domain too [16:25:21] But I think there's probably still a single point of failure that can affect both [16:25:53] for example, what is both ns* servers are down? [16:25:54] We may move to something else IE miraheze.com, but for now we use miraheze.org, it's less likely to go down then any other domain tbh, due to longer term SSL, etc... [16:26:06] I can see the reason a little bit [16:26:12] then miraheze.wiki is down also as it is also hosted in there. [16:26:46] Why? [16:26:51] not like it matters where it is then [16:27:02] Why has Miraheze.wiki been moved off? [16:27:31] I’d think .org would be best, given its normally used for non commercial organizations like Miraheze and WikiMedia [16:27:32] miraheze.org doesn't use LetsEncrypt, it uses Sectigo so less likely to go down for expiring SSL etc... since it is long term also. [16:28:55] :DoneMH: updated the URL on the page [16:29:10] I'll be honest that's not a great argument, renewing LE certs isn't hard [16:29:56] If we used a normal cert rather than wildcard, you could automate it too [16:29:56] so .org is still the best? [16:30:21] You could probably automate wildcard if you tried [16:30:48] LE lets you automate wildcards [16:31:04] but only the DNS challenge is allowed [16:31:21] Maybe not but DNS is still not either as miraheze.wiki is hosted there also. [16:34:50] Ye and we don't have anyway to automate the challenge [16:37:51] well not like infra has ever had the need to automate the DNS challenge [16:38:35] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T11849 another task for an extension that is already on ManageWiki [16:39:12] some phab admin should edit https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/7/ to mention that most extensions are already on ManageWiki/extensions [16:59:06] Bruh [16:59:10] Istg [16:59:30] I’ll close [17:00:32] how I got logged out of phab now :moonch: [17:01:14] I'll copy paste reply from another task [17:01:28] ah, you wanted to [17:06:31] Hehehehe [17:10:18] @pixldev one little nickpick, that particular user is a bureaucrat at that wiki [17:10:50] when on Phab, you can go to their profiles and click on "Global Accounts" next to their username to see their group membership [17:11:17] Oh [17:11:20] The more you know [17:11:22] Thanks [17:12:41] I tried to see if the trusted group has perms to edit the form [17:12:43] Does not [17:12:45] Lol [17:12:48] Worth a shot [17:13:21] Also maybe using VisualEditor as an example in the form was a bad idea? [17:13:27] Maybe change to SME [17:13:29] why? [17:13:42] Because there’s no reason to make a task for VE [17:14:04] You're right :p [17:14:12] It’s a habit [17:14:21] I think that form was made back when the task numbers only had 3 digits btw [17:14:43] Reading old tasks, it seems you had to request these extensions to be enabled? [17:15:05] When was MW introduced [17:18:04] Why can’t Maniphest support sorting by date [17:18:24] check this out https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T194 [17:18:50] that was the task that led to ManageWiki being created [17:19:45] It wasn't until may 2018 that ManageWiki was put to work [17:20:24] Author by Southparkfan and assigned to John [17:20:25] Dang [17:20:41] Also I didn’t realize how many Central Auth accounts I had dang [17:21:01] if you know who Southparkfan was I believe you qualify for a OG badge on phab 🤣 [17:21:18] Oh I never met him [17:21:24] I joined Miraheze in [17:21:31] January of 23 I think [17:21:50] But I joined the wider Miraheze community when I joined this discord [17:21:53] But later [17:21:56] So later 23 [17:22:31] I love the possibility someone will see staff and cvt wiki and get confused thinking I’m Miraheze staff [17:22:36] :Kek: [17:23:10] I actually have edits on staffwiki, way ahead of you 😎 [17:23:26] https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771 [17:23:51] Yeah he’s not much help [17:24:09] but that worked back when I tried it on #bots smh [17:24:17] srsly? [17:24:21] I’ve done this right after I authenticate too [17:25:07] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1207014604866191480/image0.jpg?ex=65de1af3&is=65cba5f3&hm=6e4be0432df6f5fa114c1109b057d071067cbdcbe86e6b5142a3089dbc594697& [17:25:22] Oh hey it broke differently [17:25:35] so we have two bots for verification [17:25:35] Last time I tried is just said not authenticated [17:25:40] and they both barely work 🤣 [17:25:51] Because one has fucking dementia [17:26:17] I’m borderline considering offering to try and code my own [17:26:25] So then we’ll have three that barely work! [17:26:26] why even keep it around then?! [17:26:47] At that point one of the three has to work at any given moment right? [17:26:52] Right?????? [17:27:01] ahem, we like to call this "redundancy" `round these parts [17:27:03] Idk, partly to make fun of it [17:27:11] indeed [17:27:11] :nutmoji: [17:27:12] Yes [17:27:48] But seriously I’m considering it [17:28:03] Discord bots are the thing that got me into Python [17:28:06] And I only know Python [17:28:28] idk who hard discord bots are to make, but the actual OAuth part on wiki is pretty easy [17:28:37] i'd say go for it [17:28:43] I have the code for one of mine on GitHub [17:29:08] https://github.com/pixDeVl/Bee-The-Indolent [17:29:17] It’s only kinda messy [17:29:25] I’m working on a new one rn but it’s a private repo [17:29:34] One that uses mystical things like [17:29:49] Config files!(why did autocorrect to girls) [17:30:00] And ORMs [17:30:07] So arcane [17:30:14] (I am not a great developer) [17:30:31] we all start somewhere [17:31:02] if only you could see my earliest software 😳 [17:31:18] and now I kinda know how stuff works [17:31:19] My first discord bot and really first coding project is on my GitHub [17:31:23] If you wanna laugh at me [17:31:45] Burn it in fire https://github.com/pixDeVl/Discord-Credit-Manager-Bot [17:32:23] The tutorial is strong with this one [17:32:57] Also [17:33:02] not that bad for a first program [17:33:03] LIST OF WORDS IN THE CODE [17:33:05] WHY [17:33:08] PIXL [17:33:13] 😭 [17:33:14] JAON [17:33:20] JSON* [17:33:22] TOML [17:33:25] TXT [17:33:29] SQL [17:33:30] ANYRHING [17:33:40] Any ring is powerful [17:33:54] `'''UPDATE luxCredits SET score = {amount} + score, name = '{user.name}', pin = '{user.discriminator}' WHERE uid = {user.id};'''` this however remembers me of good old bobby tables [17:34:09] also the funniest part was that when I first started I was tearing my hair out trying to figure out how to store data [17:34:15] I was using a dictionary at the time [17:34:31] Then I joined a server with a bot and chatted up the dev [17:34:40] (https://xkcd.com/327/) [17:34:41] Still a close acquaintance today [17:35:15] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1207017154239668344/image0.jpg?ex=65de1d52&is=65cba852&hm=5e9c4b12e5f29ec5aab9129ad3c29bcdc3577784f34c65143e0cf5945dd0db6c& [17:35:30] It was at this point i realized SQL existed! [17:35:50] The face palm was strong with this one [17:36:20] My original idea was Python pickles [17:36:52] no-one is born knowing all the 9000000000+ ways to do the same thing in programming [17:37:05] True [17:37:21] But I’m fairly sure I had learned of SQL sometime in the past [17:37:41] pls tell me it was not with MS Access [17:37:41] pls [17:38:01] No idea what that is :SunglassesThumbsUp: [17:38:05] good [17:38:11] We all start somewhere, and some of us start with hacking an ODBC connector. 😄 [17:38:40] I die everytime I see python [17:38:45] Why do people still use it [17:38:48] 🤢🤢🤢 [17:38:55] Because it's got a fun snake name [17:39:04] https://tenor.com/view/loops-in-python-gif-15818798436595170697 [17:39:16] you better not look at the puppet repo then 🤣 [17:39:20] It’s named after Monty python [17:39:23] What more do you need [17:39:32] Also [17:39:39] It’s ez to learn [17:39:48] I think Miraheze's puppet repo is 1000x more complicated than it needs to be personally [17:40:09] Seems to have fallen into the trap of following WMF and making the modules from scratch instead of just using puppetforge modules. [17:40:10] I don’t get anything that goes on in that mess [17:40:59] It's kind of like regular good-old configs [17:41:05] Achieves the same thing of course, at the expense of being so much more bloat than needed [17:41:17] Anyways I’m gonna try and stop procrastinating on work, then I’ll start working on MiraAwakeAuth bot [17:41:35] You'll get there in the end [17:41:36] Making sure to make it as pythonic as possible to drive OA insane :devilish: [17:41:50] My first Discord Bot was to purge fastlys cache on /purge command [17:41:59] What lang [17:42:34] Side note why is WikiBot being goofy and sending stuff in #verify now [17:42:52] JS I think [17:42:58] the actions of WikiBot are not meant to be understood by mere mortals [17:43:03] I need to learn js [17:43:08] https://gitlab.com/telepedia/tp-bot for reference [17:43:26] stopped working on it because I couldn't get the tests to work properly 😆 [17:43:47] If we don’t adopt a new wiki bot I’ll code a bot that only deletes messages in #verify [17:43:57] I’ve never made tests lmao [17:44:24] Working on mainly discord bots you really can’t test without a lot of very specific set up [17:44:56] Discord is insanely difficult to test I personally find. My test failed everytime because I couldn't figure out how to mock an embed [17:45:03] CI is a big tech scam anyway [17:45:07] thats probably me being dumb af not Discord's complexity, but ay [17:45:12] https://github.com/python-discord/bot/tree/main/tests only one I’ve seen [17:45:14] does it work on the dev's machine? that's all the testing you need [17:45:28] Yeah [17:45:46] https://tenor.com/5iIB.gif [17:46:29] I never understood itnwither [17:46:39] But it’s one of those things you just need apparently [17:47:10]