[00:00:26] TheresNoTime I think I see why the EditRecov preferance is disabled by default looking at it's talk page [00:06:21] seems fandom generates sitemaps on demand now? https://vampirediaries.fandom.com/sitemap-index.xml [00:11:15] interesting [00:20:49] that must be killing their servers [00:24:58] good /s [00:25:23] also, kinda funny to see this task just become about text wrapping for a bithttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T342721 [00:25:30] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T342721 [00:25:55] mw.notify is horrid [00:25:58] the ui is like 2004 [00:27:04] Wikimedia demands it be so [00:27:54] So far the main issue I see it with it auto restoring when people don't want and the notify/undo box going away too fast [00:28:58] seems best addressed in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T364664 [00:29:20] which I think says it ill be dealt with in few days if Im reading right [00:29:34] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/7315/ [00:30:49] But yeah, after I get on Github to authenticate my remote dev env to merge the config PR and we deploy the flag, I'll make a minor announcement letting people know and warning them of possible issues. [09:11:58] Bleh, changing that behaviour this 'late' in deployment is going to confuse people [09:54:02] google lost monopoly lawsuit? 👀 [11:17:51] Yup [11:18:07] This would be a really good time for microsoft to invest in bing [11:18:21] Although there are ublikely to be any immediate repercussions because Google will likely appeal [13:49:12] Okay, either DummyFandoomMainpageTags doesn't like me or it doesn't work with Citizen 😢 [13:55:08] Nvm, I'm just dumb.. [14:03:46] DummyFandoomMainpageTags should be avoided wherever possible. You should opt for a simple `flex` or `grid` layout. [14:04:32] Ah it had a different name then, didn't knew I was too used of the Fandom Column name [14:28:54] Oh, it's done from the CSS side 👀 [14:30:01] The dummy tags are good in a pinch when porting over a fandom wiki, but don't always scale well depending on the skin you choose [14:32:29] Yeah, so much to learn, having it on CSS side will for sure be a new level for me 👀 [15:06:15] Okay will keep that for another day, will focus on creating the pages for now. [15:18:11] [1/3] @rhinosf1 I've been looking into Tunnels. Looks like it _may_ work. From the Zero Trust Dashboard (emphasis mine): [15:18:11] [2/3] Once your tunnel is created, use the Public Hostnames tab to specify the service or the Private Networks tab to add an IP or CIDR. [15:18:11] [3/3] If I can indeed make all TCP connections/HTTP requests to IP X go through the tunnel this is a viable alternative to having to serve certificates that Cloudflare trusts [15:18:34] Of course, I'd have to see what it looks like in practice [15:18:46] There's a free plan we can use for a test run. [15:21:12] How about we set this up on test151, add some custom domains on Mirabeta and see if it works for us? [15:22:14] @bluemoon0332 you want me to setup some sub domains pointing to cf-lb on rhinosf1.com for you to use [15:22:19] How many do you want [15:22:27] just one would be good enough [15:22:44] I can't do this today but this is definitely something I want to do sometime this week [15:26:27] @bluemoon0332 bluemoon.rhinosf1.com points to cf-lb unproxied and blueproxy.rhinosf1.com points to cf-lb with orange cloud on [15:26:40] Wasn't sure if that would make a difference to how cf behaves so I set both [15:27:02] You can do what you like with either of them [15:29:40] Wut infoboxes require , I was so used to not have it that I couldn't see why I wasn't working, I'm so bad at this.. 😭 [15:34:44] They work without it [15:36:04] @rhinosf1 @theresnotime made the PR, Edit Recovery should be available today if it’s merged [15:36:13] Just need to fix it to appease the lint [15:36:16] Forgot a comma [15:41:28] :ablobfoxbongohyper: [15:42:49] Good thing about these core features is I can direct all complaints to you Foundation folks [15:43:59] And I'm sure @theresnotime will fix them all [15:45:49] Then I don't get it, it worked only when I added it [15:46:30] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1270407663104036966/20240806-1546-12.8358485.mp4?ex=66b396d5&is=66b24555&hm=ec9898e7ca90e8187ad65520d96ce3b79e9f9b60b5925e40b24775008c95185d& [15:46:33] As you can see here [15:47:11] :p depends how serious they are/if you can convince our product manager [15:48:43] ah thats not a matter of the includeonly tags, its because when infoboxes are imported sometimes you need to update the page to give it a kick (type some random stuff into the noinclude part and youll see it fixes itself too) [15:49:16] Wouldn't a Purge fix it ? [15:49:36] nope, and im not even sure an empty edit fixes it [15:49:55] WTF 👀 [15:50:06] Add a character and it worked [15:50:35] I'm blown.. [15:50:38] it's an import problem yeah, hypothetically purge supposed to fix it but sometimes it doesn't and normal edit is required [15:51:01] What do you mean by Import ? a copy paste ? [15:51:36] well, the mediawiki import process, either per template or as a whole w/ entire wiki dumps [15:51:59] I don't use that, I just copied my infobox template in the clipboard [15:52:28] hm, did u enable the portableinfobox extension before or after u made the page? [15:52:41] Both, even purged to be sure [15:53:14] I also saved the edit to check and it was borken [15:53:43] hmm, might be that it took a couple minutes to take effect after u enabled it [15:54:15] Who’s your PM [15:54:37] Although I see that the main issue I had seen was being fixed in a few days [15:55:31] I think the task got moved into the sprint ^^' might take a while longer to get resolved as I think it's lower priority [15:56:09] Saved it in the working state by putting a space in the `` zone and it works, when I edit to take that now useless space it no longer does. [15:59:33] i wonder if its taking that as "undoing" that edit and just reverting it back to the previous (non-working) version of the page (is mediawiki that smart????) [16:00:07] If it's like how fandom does then no it counts it as a new edit [16:00:29] Who is your PM [16:00:40] Jack Wheeler [16:00:48] No idea who they are [16:00:56] They're very new ^^" [16:01:41] I remember when they're WMF account got created [16:01:54] Someone thought they were an LTA [16:02:00] But I know nothing about them [16:02:03] Ahahaha [16:03:51] Necessary sacrifices must be made [16:04:25] Oh yeah, I saw him around on Phab [16:04:28] Op [16:04:43] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1270412249537712180/image0.jpg?ex=66b39b1b&is=66b2499b&hm=03b7c6ac1973d6f16d118ed401252eeb0199b1cd828f584086678fced74886dc& [16:04:46] The newspaper arrived [16:05:28] [1/2] That’s funny [16:05:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1270412436951793724/image0.jpg?ex=66b39b48&is=66b249c8&hm=2367636ff16dcd7f5e7cb73a9273241e41ec4ab059b02568fe5eea020b4cf017& [16:06:30] Let’s see [16:06:41] Global blocks can target accounts and be locally unblocked [16:07:06] Global vanish request page [16:07:52] Yeesh, can we get a month with a net up of admins [16:08:06] One reinstated 2 gone for sysop [16:08:18] One back on IA [16:08:27] and one resignation from CU [16:08:28] Fun [16:10:35] @theresnotime when did Tim move to you? [16:10:46] You've got Musik & Sam though [16:10:54] As Staff Engineers [16:11:38] Shouldn’t WMF accounts be made by other WMF accounts to avoid impersonation concerns [16:11:48] I hate the Staff X as a role title [16:11:52] You're all Staff [16:11:57] It was [16:12:01] They just didn't look [16:12:27] Hmmmmm, quite a few months now [16:12:58] @theresnotime just noticed that [16:13:54] @theresnotime the having staff as a role title really annoys me. I think it's Blank -> Senior -> Staff -> Principal though isn't it [16:14:01] Staff is a stupid name [16:16:07] My work go Blank -> Senior -> Principal -> Senior Principal [16:19:24] How do you guys do sprints [16:22:58] @freosam you do know your talk page Aw Snaps chrome for iOS [16:23:32] @theresnotime no idea if Sam checks discord so if you see him [16:24:43] (ref Tim joining) [16:39:48] Seriously [16:39:59] Why did my VPS just die :( [16:40:13] SSH is down [16:40:21] Code server isn’t responding [16:40:37] And it’s back [16:40:38] What [16:40:39] Okay [16:46:06] No unlikely to be done in that timeframe? [17:02:15] @pixldev what's the uptime? [17:02:41] When I checked the panel is was fine [17:02:41] Oh actually [17:02:42] I have Grafana on it [17:02:57] What port is Grafana uuuh [17:03:52] 9090 is prom [17:04:39] Found it [17:04:44] Forgot the password [17:06:35] Got the password [17:06:51] A few moon spikes but mostly fine [17:06:55] Idk [17:23:32] think you can point those to test151.miraheze.org instead? [17:23:46] Sure [17:25:07] Done [17:27:04] I didn’t know you had a website lol [17:27:33] You've seen my email before [17:27:34] nice, we should be good to go for the test run then [17:27:44] True I think [17:28:20] I’m probably gonna use just GitHub.io for my blog but I may buy pix-l.dev or smt [17:28:26] pixl.dev was taken [17:30:48] Hmm doesn't seem to be ULS [17:32:22] The extension is injecting the language selection to `mw-indicators` and Citizen doesn't have a dark mode style for it [17:32:43] Can you fix that? [17:33:41] If you have a live demo of the issue and also the extension repo [17:33:45] I couldn't find that extension [17:34:50] UniversalLanguageSelector [17:52:26] Do you have the link to the wiki? From my understanding, ULS doesn't insert the selector as an indicator. And it should open a popup instead of a dropdown [17:53:11] @aels224 [17:53:23] Here -> https://aelsworkshop.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [17:53:33] The fix isn't generalized so it should be there [17:54:20] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1270439836037156964/20240806-1754-07.4991479.mp4?ex=66b3b4cc&is=66b2634c&hm=c235b5a31fda2c1ca981de1e76c8ac6dd551b4818d81ed478f70ae47726d5d3e& [17:59:45] I thought I already have a fix? [17:59:57] Local, I think they aim for general [18:00:23] wrong, [[mw:Extension:LanguageSelector]] [18:00:24]

[18:01:11] ah I understood, aiming for global this time [18:01:29] If I understood correctly [18:02:37] I would suggest setting `$wgLanguageSelectorLocation` to `LANGUAGE_SELECTOR_AS_PORTLET` [18:02:45] Oh [18:03:12] There are too many possible locations for insertion and the extension doesn't have high enough usage tbh [18:03:32] It does the same thing as ULS [18:04:50] except that anon can also use it [18:05:20] Anon can use ULS [19:01:37] [1/2] Argh, I hate when that happens got an idea but I don't know how feasible it is. [19:01:38] [2/2] I will have several sections on my wiki because I like to separate stuff from Stargate from the Star Trek stuff and I got into the idea of having a specific CSS for each so it has a custom background (for example). So to this I checked info on "Per Namespace CSS" but now I realize that I should had asked if it was the way to go 🤔 [19:53:06] @originalauthority can i put edit recov default below the extension stuff in GS.php [19:55:07] Huh [19:55:47] From what i see settings here dont override ManageWiki [19:56:38] Correct [19:56:53] and local do so there we go [19:57:06] can you find anywhere else in this file more appropriate to put it? [19:57:16] Why do you need to put it in there? [20:01:42] because far as I can tell the default option dont wanna work since the feature only works after a toggle off and on [20:01:58] You need to add it to LocalSettings I think [20:02:08] you said to put it in LS but that would override MW so it cant be disabeld right? [20:02:14] No [20:02:41] huh [20:02:43] ManageWiki will add its configuration to $wgConf [20:04:25] [1/11] Basically if you have in wgconf [20:04:26] [2/11] (I cant be arsed to format this properly on mobile) [20:04:26] [3/11] wgVariableHere [ [20:04:26] [4/11] 'default' => false [20:04:26] [5/11] ] [20:04:27] [6/11] And metawiki has it set to true in managewiki that becomes [20:04:27] [7/11] wgVariableHere [ [20:04:28] [8/11] 'default' => false, [20:04:28] [9/11] 'metawiki' => true [20:04:28] [10/11] ] [20:04:28] [11/11] After managewiki is run [20:04:34] And the default is ignored [20:07:01] so setting it to true in ls will make the default true, and manage wiki will pave over it when it see the variable [20:07:17] Yes [20:07:31] got it [20:07:37] ls is in alphabetical order? [20:07:53] I think its in sections? [20:09:21] yup [20:09:43] add a new section? [20:10:51] or is there a core settings category [20:12:24] Maybe right at the top? [20:12:36] Where priveleged groups etc is since they're core [20:13:02] you’d think the default would be in ManageWiki but no [20:14:01] mmm alright [20:17:37] look good? https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/pull/5631 [20:19:44]