[03:30:37] <PixDeVl>	 orduin: would you happen to be logged onto shell rn?
[03:31:29] <PixDeVl>	 (i think thats how the relay sees pings)
[03:31:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> No, but I can poke a thing if needed
[03:33:08] <PixDeVl>	 im trying to debug a WIP CW change, could you check the value of a column on a beta wiki request? trying to see if the part that broke is the code that writes to the DB or that reads it to fill the default on the UI
[03:34:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> Sure, let me know what and where and what wiki
[03:35:07] <PixDeVl>	 Basically the values of request 21, on metawikibeta. i forgot the name of the table
[03:35:23] <PixDeVl>	 (the db entry i mean, badly phrased)
[03:37:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> Any value in particular? Otherwise it's a bit of a large paste
[03:39:05] <PixDeVl>	 the lock, I think it's `cw_lock`?
[03:39:20] <PixDeVl>	 https://meta.mirabeta.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/21#mw-section-handle the new box
[03:39:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> Oh, then I see your problem
[03:39:44] <PixDeVl>	 i need to eventually update the logs it keeps saying put on hold
[03:39:51] <PixDeVl>	 no one ran the patch did thet
[03:39:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> There is no cw_lock in the table :P
[03:40:00] <PixDeVl>	 s/thet/they
[03:40:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> Okie, looking for patch
[03:40:19] <PixDeVl>	 that exact or looking at the whole row
[03:40:27] <PixDeVl>	 should be in the folder
[03:40:45] <PixDeVl>	 im impressed mediawiki dont bitch and moan
[03:41:23] <PixDeVl>	 sigh
[03:41:40] <PixDeVl>	 one day. one day we'll seperate beta from prod
[03:42:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> That day is soon
[03:42:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> Trust
[03:42:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> Added!
[03:42:40] <PixDeVl>	 yaaay
[03:42:45] <PixDeVl>	 lemme try now
[03:43:27] <PixDeVl>	 hm
[03:43:33] <PixDeVl>	 still don't seem to persist
[03:43:41] <PixDeVl>	 https://meta.mirabeta.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/21#mw-section-handle
[03:44:14] <PixDeVl>	 agentisai: it may be soon. or it may be by the time im starting college
[03:44:18] <PixDeVl>	 who knows!
[03:44:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> I said trust for a reason
[03:45:02] <PixDeVl>	 ong
[03:45:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> cw_lock is still 0 in the table
[03:45:17] <PixDeVl>	 the internet is a thing of irony
[03:45:24] <PixDeVl>	 hmmmm
[03:45:34] <PixDeVl>	 it's probably my write code that's fauly
[03:45:35] <PixDeVl>	 ngl
[03:45:53] <PixDeVl>	 if i saw i totally forgot to add it, would not be surprised
[03:45:55] <PixDeVl>	 lemme see
[03:46:21] <PixDeVl>	 time for poor man's bastion!
[03:46:38] <PixDeVl>	 lmao
[03:46:55] <PixDeVl>	 setting up a web accessible dev env was a very good idea
[03:48:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> I don't see where your patch commits the value change to the database?
[03:48:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> cw_lock seems to be missing from the rows array in WikiRequest
[03:49:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> in the save function
[03:49:29] <PixDeVl>	 SO YOU DO HAVE TO ADD- son of a
[03:49:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> Too sleepy to do anything more than add a suggestion for the SQL
[03:49:30] <PixDeVl>	 sigh
[03:49:49] <PixDeVl>	 file file is that in again.. WikiRequest.php?
[03:49:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> yes
[03:50:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai, replying to orduin> you're a trooper for trying to figure out today's networking incident
[03:50:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> that's more than enough for today
[03:50:35] <PixDeVl>	 :100:
[03:50:41] <PixDeVl>	 go get some eep
[03:51:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> Oh yeah, networking incident looks to have been entirely upstream. Their switches had a problem with neighbor discovery, and they say that's been fixed now.
[03:51:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> oh cool
[03:51:55] <PixDeVl>	 well not cool
[03:52:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> finally not our fault
[03:52:03] <PixDeVl>	 but cool its not our fault
[03:52:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> that's why it's cool
[03:52:06] <PixDeVl>	 exactly
[03:52:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> lol
[03:52:16] <PixDeVl>	 who wants to write the post mortem
[03:52:38] <PixDeVl>	 also i added cw_lock to the read and not save lmao
[03:52:42] <PixDeVl>	 silly pixl..
[03:52:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> ...have we used IncidentReports lately?
[03:53:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> last thing recorded in it is from last year
[03:54:15] <PixDeVl>	 oh yea that exists
[03:54:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> We've had quite a few outages which probably should've been written up in there
[03:56:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ellie.rose._, replying to orduin> damn we be blaming miraheze servers for something we didn't do 😭
[03:56:24] <PixDeVl>	 basicallt
[03:56:39] <PixDeVl>	 also i can view the entire GH PR thread on CLI sick
[03:56:41] <PixDeVl>	 ..
[03:56:49] <PixDeVl>	 claire is rubbing off me too much
[03:57:19] <PixDeVl>	 help
[03:58:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> `apt purge git` is a cool command too
[03:59:07] <PixDeVl>	 that seems like a bad idea
[03:59:25] <PixDeVl>	 speaking of bad ideas
[03:59:51] <PixDeVl>	 is it a bad idea to try to resolder the connections on a cheap USB with my MFA codes on it
[04:00:05] <PixDeVl>	 yes i am stupid hindsight is 20/20
[05:27:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] can waki's wiki request time calculator be integrated?
[05:27:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] I just remembered how WhoSampled has estimated time counter on message after submission is made, would be very handy to have that after user finished their wiki requests
[12:56:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to orduin> is this something that could be updated in brief in the announcements channel/tech noticeboard, just as a courtesy followup if this is indeed resolved?
[20:01:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> whats this i see bout mattermost @cosmicalpha
[20:51:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> We're looking at hosting an instance to have a more stable long-term record outside of discord
[21:02:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> would Google Chats not work for that?
[21:26:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Can't speak to specifics on that, but there were other reasons (like being able to bring in folks who don't want to or shouldn't have a company email)
[21:26:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> CA's better positioned to talk specifics
[23:54:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Google Chats is no different than Discord. You're just transferring data from one entity to another without owning it -- pretty sure we want something we host ourselves.