[07:24:39] <BlankEclair>	 if reflection is a thing in php, does miraheze let wikis use it? :thinking:
[07:48:39] <BlankEclair>	 i'm surprised no one has gone "claire what the fuck are you doing" yet
[07:53:33] <BlankEclair>	 oh hey, i don't need reflection after all!
[07:54:23] <BlankEclair>	 instead i could just use $wgExtensionFunctions to set config variables after they've been merged, despite the manual stating "Note that extension functions cannot be used to programmatically update configuration variables or register hooks"
[07:54:27] <BlankEclair>	 making code crimes is so easy!
[11:23:18] <BlankEclair>	 anyone happen to know what python version miraheze uses?
[11:23:53] <BlankEclair>	 nvm found it: py 3.11
[11:23:57] <BlankEclair>	 > 21:21 MirahezeLSBot: [void@puppet181] Upgraded packages libpython3.11, python3.11, libpython3.11-stdlib, python3.11-minimal, libpython3.11-minimal, libgssapi-krb5-2, libkrb5-3, libkrb5support0, libk5crypto3, bind9-dnsutils, bind9-host, bind9-libs, dnsutils, libaom3, and libpq5 on ns2
[11:40:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> For future, same as Debian stable for most things
[11:40:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Except during an OS transition
[11:45:57] <BlankEclair>	 https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/python3
[11:46:03] <BlankEclair>	 woah, didn't expect debian to ship python 3.11
[11:49:54] <Felenov>	 The maintainers expect the end user to need it, and they think 3.12 is too unstable so they go with the latest LTS release
[12:02:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to BlankEclair> [1/2] > <BlankEclair> i'm surprised no one has gone "claire what the fuck are you doing" yet
[12:02:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to BlankEclair> [2/2] Excuse me?
[12:02:40] <BlankEclair>	 what?
[12:11:38] <BlankEclair>	 am i overengineering things a bit if i'm making https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12480 modular?
[12:22:21] <BlankEclair>	 yeah probably, i should do less work for myself
[18:10:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Absolutely
[18:14:01] <RhinosF1>	 Why are we making new when there's a tool that does exactly what that task proposes
[18:15:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> What tool is that
[18:17:40] <RhinosF1>	 LibUp
[18:25:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Both does the same thing so it doesn't really matter
[18:40:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to originalauthority> Yes but I dislike reinventing the wheel unless there's a reason
[18:49:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> I don't see an issue with it if Claire is willing to maintain it
[18:49:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> We don't have to copy every single thing wmf uses
[18:51:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> What if Claire leaves one day
[18:52:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> We're a small enough team and struggling anyway
[18:52:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I'd like to explore the why choose each route
[18:53:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> You assume we’d let her leave even if she wants
[18:54:21] <tax>	 We should generally try not to rely on code that only one person is familiar with
[18:54:51] <tax>	 There is a time and place for re-implementing something that already exists, but not usually for its own sake
[18:55:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> TAXATION
[19:00:45] <tax>	 ...is theft?
[19:08:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> basically what tax said
[19:09:23] <RhinosF1>	 tax: .... funds my salary
[19:10:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> ... is a nice way to ensure a baseline of common services and utilities exist.
[19:10:08] <tax>	 Part of mine as well :]
[19:10:33] <RhinosF1>	 tax: all of mine
[19:10:54] * RhinosF1 works in the civil service