[01:58:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <z_ezinho> Hi, is it possible to request a full cloning of a wiki? Not deleting, not transferring from another thing, just copying one that I own.
[02:25:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> So, we generally won't do this except for very rare instances, what's the use case?
[02:35:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> my account is finally cursed with the famous 'Key 'CentralAuthSouth' changed" error
[02:35:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> [1/12] ```Key "CentralAuthSource" changed
[02:35:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> [2/12] mediawiki_exception_trace
[02:35:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> [3/12] from /srv/mediawiki/1.42/includes/session/SessionProvider.php(335)
[02:35:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> [4/12] #0 /srv/mediawiki/1.42/includes/session/SessionManager.php(689): MediaWiki\Session\SessionProvider->mergeMetadata(array, array)
[02:35:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> [5/12] #1 /srv/mediawiki/1.42/includes/session/SessionManager.php(558): MediaWiki\Session\SessionManager->loadSessionInfoFromStore(MediaWiki\Session\SessionInfo, MediaWiki\Request\WebRequest)
[02:35:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> [6/12] #2 /srv/mediawiki/1.42/includes/session/SessionManager.php(245): MediaWiki\Session\SessionManager->getSessionInfoForRequest(MediaWiki\Request\WebRequest)
[02:35:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> [7/12] #3 /srv/mediawiki/1.42/includes/Request/WebRequest.php(870): MediaWiki\Session\SessionManager->getSessionForRequest(MediaWiki\Request\WebRequest)
[02:35:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> [8/12] #4 /srv/mediawiki/1.42/includes/session/SessionManager.php(166): MediaWiki\Request\WebRequest->getSession()
[02:35:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> [9/12] #5 /srv/mediawiki/1.42/includes/Setup.php(487): MediaWiki\Session\SessionManager::getGlobalSession()
[02:35:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> [10/12] #6 /srv/mediawiki/1.42/includes/WebStart.php(85): require_once(string)
[02:35:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> [11/12] #7 /srv/mediawiki/config/initialise/entrypoints/index.php(12): require(string)
[02:35:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> [12/12] #8 {main}```
[02:36:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yoshi459292927370272, replying to yoshi459292927370272> Haven’t gotten a response but apparently the ICW user for some reason can’t make pages do you know why that is
[03:47:04] <tax>	 Fascinating to me that Semantic MediaWiki can't be enabled without intervention and has all sorts of scary warnings, while Wikibase Repo/Client has no warnings and I can just click them to make my wiki into a Wikibase.
[04:40:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> LMAO almost 400 commits on my PR to rewrite CreateWiki...
[04:41:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1289809347425210390/image0.png?ex=66fa2c0f&is=66f8da8f&hm=3c9e7819883d9100041c643d6998897d15c35dd6354054a5ca1cef271e99ffab&
[05:16:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> Taking apart CW was fun, putting it back together again, less so lol
[05:17:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> @pixldev FYI I will do the CW lock feature in that PR as well
[06:30:54] <BlankEclair>	 question: if you log out from a user account, does it log you out from all sessions???
[06:31:04] <BlankEclair>	 every time i log out on my test container, my main container also gets logged out
[06:32:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> It does
[06:33:05] <BlankEclair>	 well. that clears up a lot of confusion
[06:33:33] <BlankEclair>	 also i can't reproduce the bug anymore. amazing.
[06:34:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> I can
[06:34:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> I can't login at all
[06:35:23] <BlankEclair>	 a mitmproxy/burp suite dump might be interesting to look at
[06:35:31] <BlankEclair>	 but well, security
[06:35:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> it's all CentralAuth
[06:35:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> it keeps losing my session and unpersisting
[06:36:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> I can't even get past the 2FA screen anymore as it fails to verify
[06:36:32] <BlankEclair>	 sometimes i wish i have mitmproxy enabled all the time lol
[06:37:03] <BlankEclair>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/B89kzXDvy2r1/#R; quite a few results, what to search for?
[06:37:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T299193
[06:37:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> This one
[06:38:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> What's funny is that this is a super ancient bug
[06:38:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141482
[06:40:04] <BlankEclair>	 "funny" is this why i've always been logged out from CA??
[06:40:09] <BlankEclair>	 like every month or so
[06:40:18] <BlankEclair>	 what's odd is that my bot account that i rarely use is still logged in
[06:41:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> yes
[06:41:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> ancient bug from yesteryear
[06:41:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> but sometimes it really hates certain users
[06:42:26] <BlankEclair>	 oh my god it's a race condition
[06:43:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> ...that wmf will ever fix
[06:43:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> never*
[06:44:38] <BlankEclair>	 tempted to write CA /hj
[06:44:58] <BlankEclair>	 > [29/09/2024 16:41] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> but sometimes it really hates certain users
[06:45:05] <BlankEclair>	 is it because of many attached accounts?
[06:47:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> no idea
[06:47:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> it hates me right now but I have a relatively small account
[06:47:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> I've never seen it get mad at people with massive accounts like Raidarr or Void though
[06:49:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Agent security burps
[06:49:53] <BlankEclair>	 why does CA even use cross-domain images?
[06:50:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Because someone 20 years ago thought it the best of multipe bad options, probably
[06:51:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha, replying to agentisai> If I use a really old browser it doesn't happen to me. But as soon as I use modern browsers it does.
[06:51:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> Only when I visit wikis I am not already attached to though.
[06:51:51] <BlankEclair>	 lmao yeah that also happens, and with interesting effects
[06:52:01] <BlankEclair>	 logged in on rainversewiki, but not loginwiki
[06:52:13] <BlankEclair>	 and i started my session on loginwiki
[06:52:54] <BlankEclair>	 wait
[06:53:06] <BlankEclair>	 does that mean if i restore an old profile backup, i can be relogged in?
[06:57:17] <BlankEclair>	 >  2024-09-28 22:25:06 	<MirahezeRelay> 	<agentisai> how do you find these things
[06:57:19] <BlankEclair>	 > 2024-09-28 22:25:28 	<MirahezeRelay> 	<agentisai> I'm scared 
[06:57:37] <BlankEclair>	 i was looking through citizen's source code to try to debug why global user pages don't work with it
[06:57:45] <BlankEclair>	 stumbled upon raw html without escaped real name
[07:18:22] <BlankEclair>	 jeez, there's a lot of skins that don't work with GUP
[08:12:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <atxatx> I looked into it before personally. It was because loginwiki doesn't have the skins installed and enabled, it has nothing to do with the skins themselves
[08:13:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <atxatx> To make GUP work for all skins, loginwiki needs to have all skins enabled
[08:23:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> it shouldn't be an issue, considering login wiki doesn't function like a proper wiki?
[08:23:48] <BlankEclair>	 i actually just did it ^^;
[08:23:51] <BlankEclair>	 as in looked into it too
[08:23:54] <BlankEclair>	 https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12662
[08:24:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> it might not be a proper wiki but it's not free of certain wiki behaviors either
[08:24:32] <BlankEclair>	 if miraheze declines or goes NOTOURBUG, then i'll go upstream and try to make it fallback onto apioutput
[08:26:47] <BlankEclair>	 or actually... what happens when you don't specify a skin?
[08:27:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> default skin in settings?
[08:27:39] <BlankEclair>	 i don't think it does?
[08:31:09] <BlankEclair>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/+/0b58fa96021b833e172fd44016751819c09e9588/includes/api/ApiParse.php#475
[12:12:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to cosmicalpha> Oh okay feel free to close my PR then. Started work so finishing it now would be hard anyways
[12:21:56] <BlankEclair>	 so eepy
[12:22:04] <BlankEclair>	 btw you can add cat facts to phorge
[12:22:45] <BlankEclair>	 https://files.catbox.moe/ykzkej.png
[12:25:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Already did months ago
[12:26:36] <BlankEclair>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/CSS/+/1074402; world's longest unmerged security patch
[12:30:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to BlankEclair> I started this at 2am last night lol
[12:30:30] <BlankEclair>	 started what?
[12:31:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Rewriting an implementation of CentralAuth
[12:31:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Without wgconf finally
[12:31:19] <BlankEclair>	 oh lmao
[12:32:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Shame the docs for auth and session manager suck ass
[12:33:46] <BlankEclair>	 shame docs suck ass tbh
[12:33:55] <BlankEclair>	 oh yeah, i got :3 into a test case
[12:34:02] <BlankEclair>	 hopefully i can get shark and sharks too
[12:50:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> @notaracham wondering if you could approve a rename (if they meet any criteria etc). There's a bug that needs looking into (jobs not running and instead having to be ran manually using the fixStuckGlobalRename.php script).
[12:51:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> or @reception123 ^
[12:53:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> i suppose i can just create an account and have it rename
[12:54:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @paladox has this happened a few times in a row?
[12:54:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> yeh
[12:54:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Ag
[12:54:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Ah
[12:54:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> seems to be happening to all jobs
[12:54:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Not good
[12:54:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Oh
[12:54:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> for the rename user
[12:54:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Weird
[12:55:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> yeh i don't understand it
[12:55:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Rename jobs are dodgy anyway
[12:55:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> the script runs a job
[12:55:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> They've never worked perfectly
[12:55:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> how does WMF handle it?
[12:55:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> i don't see they have a seperate queue for it
[12:56:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> There is a known fault where the job queue sometimes looses track
[12:56:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> It shouldn't be happening to every job though
[13:00:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> @rhinosf1 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:GlobalRenameProgress/Rename_User_154
[13:00:29] <RhinosF1>	 MacFan4000: 13:56:57 <MirahezeLSBot> !log [macfan@mwtask181] sudo -u www-data php /srv/mediawiki/1.42/maintenance/run.php /srv/mediawiki/1.42/maintenance/rebuildall.php --wiki=dragonagewiki (END - exit=256)
[13:00:39] <RhinosF1>	 MacFan4000: might want to re run
[13:01:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to paladox> Can you see the job in the queue?
[13:01:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Anything in graylog?
[13:03:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> i don't see anything in the log.
[13:07:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> i'm seeing lots of https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-services-change-propagation/blob/c0d410a22e05c6efead37e8f275995607fbdda6f/lib/base_executor.js#L487 @rhinosf1
[13:07:56] <RhinosF1>	 Worrying
[14:49:59] <MacFan4000>	 Restarted
[14:50:41] <MacFan4000>	 Given what the error was, I’m surprised it didn’t come up while running importDump
[14:51:10] <MacFan4000>	 (Data too long for column si_title)
[14:56:49] <RhinosF1>	 MacFan4000: ack, thanks
[17:28:54] <MacFan4000>	 (takes a while, as it's over 170k pages)