[03:12:25] agentisai: when are u not gona be a red link [03:13:32] keep it red as long as possible [03:18:23] oh yeah, how has wmf phab not have had edit vandalism like mh phorge did previously? [03:21:10] me, someone who makes daily backups, when i see https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T9867: nooo [03:21:47] ...what's weird is I know all those words, but it doesn't parse for me [03:22:31] Like, I straight up don't understand what that would mean in this context. Is this like, providing API hooks for automated generation and storage externally? [03:23:40] uhh am i missing context? [03:25:02] I'm also very pancake-brained after 12 straight hours of graduate-school studying, so it could be me [03:37:04] PixDeVl: how's reese [03:39:54] josh from the youtube channel Let's Game It Out is basically me, but instead it's bugs in video games [03:40:08] I haven't been able to login for a few days so I can't even fix it [03:40:12] I haven't spoken with him recently. Seen some of his boosts on fedi [03:40:29] agentisai: oh dear.. [03:40:34] I wanted to restore my old GUP but I'm too lazy to tell a Steward to unsuppress my user (why was it even suppressed?) [03:40:56] ngl i thought that was you [03:44:45] If you see a mysterious suppressed user in the logs on devwiki, testwiki, staffwiki, etc., many times it's me \:P [03:44:56] I also thought that was you as part of self-GDPRing? [03:44:57] yup :p [03:45:03] Mine was as well [03:45:12] no [03:45:16] Hm. [03:45:22] NA can you check OS logs? [03:45:36] its systematic enough im pretty sure it was automated [03:45:37] RemovePII doesn't suppress users when vanishing [03:45:41] at least I'd hope it doesn't [03:45:42] Pancake brain is saying no, but need to be helpful is saying yes [03:45:48] no [03:45:51] listen to pancake [03:46:02] best to listen to pancakes, yes [03:46:10] i mean not always [03:46:13] in this case yes [03:46:29] Hmm how did mine get suppressed also then lol [03:46:48] Yeah, I remember seeing yours was suppressed as well [03:47:08] what if we try to un-GDPR an account 🤔 [03:47:37] I was gonna try to do it to mine if I could know what GDPR name it was lol [03:47:47] But can't as it is suppressed [03:47:57] ...I have this information, kinda [03:48:07] actually guys it was me i bought the RPII OS DLC [03:48:09] sowy [03:48:18] lol [03:48:37] well, database magic always exists \:P [03:48:54] Yeah, I think it's baked into the GDPR process. [03:49:07] I remember Doug would get mad if SRE did anything on-wiki using UIs but said if we did it in the database it was fair game [03:49:27] remember @dmehus? [03:49:36] I know he won't see that ping \:P [03:49:42] If you say his name three times we all get digital candy corn. [03:49:52] And maybe a brief hello. [03:49:59] in the mirror? [03:50:08] I last texted him in April and he's doing fine [03:50:11] Alright, I've reached maximum pancakitude, I'm done trying to investigate. [03:52:36] > I remember Doug would get mad if SRE did anything on-wiki using UIs but said if we did it in the database it was fair game [03:52:36] `UPDATE locked = 1 WHERE user_name = Doug` [03:53:47] im too tired to remember sql or mediawiki tables [03:53:51] anyways [03:54:03] wheres the fall MWUDC at [03:54:31] oh austria [03:54:43] ngl, i forgot its not just in the US LMAO [03:55:20] merica [04:01:43] Spring MWUDC seems to be in the US [04:02:01] lets see who WT sends next time [04:02:38] does it say which state [04:03:16] the only confrence i currently intent to attend is WCNA 2025, which is in NYC [04:03:41] also: NYC's 400th birthday! [04:03:51] probably in Sandusky, Ohio [04:04:07] [1/2] ooo [04:04:08] [2/2] gonna try attending online, at least if I didn't have to go for mandatory military service [04:04:14] we were discussing ideas for how to honor that at WCNA at the picnic in augest [04:04:14] a great excuse to go visit Cedar Point [04:04:31] none of that for me :P [04:04:50] I'm considering maybe I'll go to Wikimania in 2026 [04:04:52] PArs [04:04:56] paris* [04:05:02] WCNA = World Convention of Narcotics Anonymous? [04:05:28] ha ha [04:05:31] no [04:05:56] [[wikimediameta:WikiConfrence North America]] [04:06:08] womp womp no link [04:06:34] the 2024 one is very soon [04:06:42] may be next weekend [04:06:48] indianopolis [04:08:05] meetups are fun [04:09:35] > [30/09/2024 13:49] I remember Doug would get mad if SRE did anything on-wiki using UIs but said if we did it in the database it was fair game [04:09:36] what [04:10:21] yeah so if we handled steward tasks through the shell, it was fine so long as we didn't do it on wiki [04:10:37] like all tasks? [04:12:06] It's pretty hard to do some tasks without the help of a UI so I don't think people took him up on that [04:12:47] Special:CheckUser is overrated, i prefer php maintenance/run.php sql [04:13:21] oh wait i mixed up sre and stewards [04:14:04] why that restriction tho? it feels arbitrary and probably would reduce transparency [04:14:08] actually, Matomo is honestly a much better checkuser tool than CheckUser itself [04:14:42] fair [04:14:44] my test install of matomo tracked screen resolution >_< [04:14:54] glad to have letterboxing enabled [04:15:05] maybe we should give stewards matomo access [04:15:26] it's not really meant for that \:P [04:15:31] and much less transparent [04:15:49] if it works better it works better [04:15:55] that level of detail could be useful in IDing socks using proxies [04:16:11] also, it doesn't tell you who is who, you have to piece that together and many times you can't guess what user is who [04:16:24] pixl gon [04:16:30] rip [04:16:43] i actually block matomo lol [04:17:08] on purpose? [04:17:24] yeah? [04:17:36] I'm telling CA to boot you off security reviewers [04:17:46] how dare you mess up our analytics [04:17:46] https://files.catbox.moe/qobf9l.png [04:18:03] nah, I do too but only because I'm too lazy to set an exception in my ad blocker [04:18:14] but it doesn't really matter because CloudFlare analytics are far superior \:P [04:18:22] so you don't escape our analytics [04:18:43] if it's entirely server-side and not creepy then idrc that much [04:19:47] unrelated, but still waiting for miraheze to let me deploy the worst special page implementation ever [04:19:56] no [04:20:06] for messing up our analytics, now I'm declaring it a flight risk [04:20:50] I couldn't figure out why it didn't clone on mwtask181 actually [04:21:28] oh yeah, reception still hasn't uploaded dumps to the internet archive because of some script proxy problems? [04:22:08] I'm not sure why that is actually [04:22:12] oh okay [04:22:25] for some reason my brain is just jumping to lots of random topics [04:22:52] i disconnec for 20 seconds and miss vital context [04:23:04] okay here [04:23:08] > [30/09/2024 14:15] if it works better it works better [04:23:10] > [30/09/2024 14:15] that level of detail could be useful in IDing socks using proxies [04:23:11] > [30/09/2024 14:16] also, it doesn't tell you who is who, you have to piece that together and many times you can't guess what user is who [04:23:13] > [30/09/2024 14:16] <-- PixDeVl (~PixDeVl@miraheze/PixDeVl) has left this server (Quit: Client closed). [04:23:14] > [30/09/2024 14:16] pixl gon [04:23:16] > [30/09/2024 14:16] rip [04:23:17] > [30/09/2024 14:16] i actually block matomo lol [04:23:19] > [30/09/2024 14:16] --> PixDeVl (~PixDeVl@miraheze/PixDeVl) has joined this channel. [04:23:20] > [30/09/2024 14:17] on purpose? [04:23:26] ah [04:24:10] fun fact: the kde security policy says "Email reporter to make sure she knows the advisory is out": https://community.kde.org/Policies/Security_Policy#Process_for_the_Security_Team [04:24:20] matamo is fun though [04:24:27] it's as if they wrote it specifically for me 😊 [04:24:56] shame Special:Analytics has the usefulness of a troglodyte in an office building [04:25:46] we could probably support better analytics now, actually [04:25:49] although getting all page views would be fire [04:25:51] we have the server resources for it [04:26:02] I forgot what stopped us last time [04:26:05] give matomo login to all users :3 [04:26:25] is there any privacy reason preventing us from adding a full list of page views to it? [04:26:27] [1/2] guest [04:26:27] [2/2] password [04:26:31] or making the page less ass [04:26:41] wait that's a thing? [04:26:47] I think it's an API limitation [04:26:54] no monies for devs [04:27:16] it all boils down to who wants to do some dev dirty work [04:27:21] > Error: Wrong username and/or password. [04:27:39] i go to http://matomo.wikitide.net/ and my entire screen goes blood red [04:27:42] legit [04:27:52] it goes dark :p [04:27:56] most intimitating phishing alert ever [04:28:00] i should eep [04:28:00] matomo? :thonk: [04:28:08] it's https://analytics.wikitide.net [04:28:09] https://files.catbox.moe/rq9doh.png [04:28:17] phishing? [04:28:21] agentisai: so rate limit? [04:28:36] wait no we host it [04:28:43] I think the API doesn't support returning that list [04:29:14] privledged web crawler [04:29:34] also its OSS can't we just add it? [04:29:51] > no monies for devs [04:30:08] anyone wanna do that work? :3 [04:30:23] :sparkle: fork [04:30:45] BlankEclair: oh would you look at the time I should be going now [04:31:00] yeah i like to fork [04:31:07] (to make pull requests to fix bugs and add features) [04:31:25] is that a quip worth idfk [04:31:33] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ up to you [04:31:41] I have something to expand our Analytics to page views but forgot to finish it lol [04:31:58] intended to do a security review on citizen, got eepy and abandoned it lol [04:32:03] im gonna see if i can get a good look at fandoms analytics so we can make what they have and better [04:32:32] they show like top 10 thats it [04:32:53] getting our wiki viewed by north korea would be goals [04:33:19] Matomo supports a lot more in the API then what we use. I have a PR to show top visited pages but forgot to finish it lol [04:33:26] what other matomo info would be dandy and feasible to have on wiki [04:33:32] https://github.com/miraheze/MatomoAnalytics/pull/125 [04:33:43] this man is too powerful [04:33:47] you scare me [04:34:12] ill take a look later but i aint an extension dev :p [04:34:20] i love scaring people [04:34:34] maybe we can nerd snipe someone [04:34:42] @cosmicalpha remind me again, have we looked into implementing PageViews? [04:34:46] i need eepy [04:34:53] you already have eepy [04:35:05] you just crave the Better Exhaustion Destroyer [04:35:14] i need to burn eepy in divine eep [04:36:01] Yes I tried and gave up because it needed the service that I didn't understand but maybe could try again. also noting the just provides an API to retrieve them we'd still have to have our own implementation to use it which is why I didn't continue as if we do one part but not the other it is a waste of time. [04:36:27] https://files.catbox.moe/7p4dku.png [04:37:25] https://github.com/MusikAnimal/pageviews [04:37:26] hmm [04:37:27] claire's gay sense is firing [04:37:43] oh that thing [04:37:56] would be awesome ngl [04:38:14] the pagevies and xtools are awesome [04:48:50] i should get color emoji working on konversation [06:35:50] was this cancelled? still blank for me (I don't have beta account tho) [06:45:27] the translation thing? [06:48:10] https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/infrastructure/-/blob/master/roles/archwiki/templates/LocalSettings.php.j2#L422-424; lol [08:14:43] Ah this is why goole analytics is superior [08:35:42] rather not have them than give google another inlet [08:37:54] Rip [08:52:08] accounts with over 1000 edits cannot be hidden apparently [08:52:11] is this bypassable [08:54:04] wdym hidden? [08:54:57] via the centralauth settings [08:55:19] I guess I didn't try the user list only setting [08:57:01] yeah no, can't be hidden at all with the normal settings in ca [08:57:17] but I know gdpr will do the trick no matter the edits so that's interesting [09:40:40] It depends which type of hidden [09:40:54] Hidden and suppress everything everywhere will be harder [09:41:14] Just hide from global, I imagine it's just a single sql to do [09:52:32] it's alright as it is now I guess, we shouldn't start diving into custom queries unless we really need to and I'll just update associated documentation to note that non-gpdr vanish at over 1k global edits is an issue [10:00:35] No [10:00:43] Its a hardcoded limit in centralauth [10:01:36] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-CentralAuth/blob/720bef47506ee0291e8fcc199b062297638fa2bb/includes/User/CentralAuthUser.php#L172 [10:47:05] Non gdpr reversible vanish has a different workflow that isn't part of centralauth. [10:48:56] I imagine that's only checked when setting hidden though [10:49:24] Not if it's already hidden cause you did it db side [10:49:32] Hey PixDeVl [10:50:07] raaaaa [10:50:21] morning... [10:51:04] PixDeVl: did you set a date with the company [10:51:47] not yet, i had work all weekend and you were busy last week [10:52:09] i can make a when2meet or smt so we can find a time [11:10:44] why does qtextengine.cpp do pointer math instead of using a struct... [11:11:09] also, you dating a company? [11:29:34] omg this is like a data type without a data type [11:32:21] Ye cool PixDeVl [11:33:16] he disconnected btw [11:38:38] BlankEclair: he still has discord to read [11:38:41] oh right [11:38:54] BlankEclair: pix is trying to find us merch [11:39:01] huh! neat [11:39:02] You looking at qt still? [11:39:12] yes [11:39:18] affected by https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-97401 [11:39:28] I haven't had to touch it for like a month now [11:39:38] Probably will later in the week [11:40:10] why the hell do they pack stuff in bytes and not use structs T_T [11:40:32] > // split up the item into parts that come from different font engines [11:40:34] > // k * 3 entries, array[k] == index in string, array[k + 1] == index in glyphs, array[k + 2] == engine index [11:40:35] > QVarLengthArray itemBoundaries; [11:41:20] I have many questions about the way qt does a lot [11:41:30] if i remove any and all fonts aside from Noto Color Emoji, then it renders correctly [11:41:56] and btw, i couldn't figure out how to easily hide fonts from within qt [11:43:32] BlankEclair: not had to do that [11:43:59] i just ended up using proot and bind mounts to hide all the fonts [11:47:25] found another font that i can use alongside it without emojis breaking: Font Awesome 6 Free [11:47:28] spectacular [12:29:04] siu [13:06:47] [1/3] 3 wikis reported broken thumbnails [13:06:47] [2/3] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1288853995804299299 [13:06:48] [3/3] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1290113590333931631 [14:01:15] BE, you here? [14:02:44] songngu.xyz: yeah [14:02:50] also, mention my nick to actually notify me [14:02:57] i happened to come here by coincidence [14:03:03] alr, see u in IRC [14:03:08] [1/2] one of the wikis in question [14:03:08] [2/2] [14:04:04] [1/2] another [14:04:05] [2/2] [14:04:10] you... you could also whois me [14:56:47] kinda surprised [[dev:Module:Infobox]] outputs the same html classes as enwiki [15:02:08] I been waiting some actions on this as the page making permission error thing is a huge deal [15:03:23] [1/3] @pixldev a bit late but here's approvals/declins to add to your graph when you have time [15:03:23] [2/3] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/P522 [15:03:24] [3/3] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/P521 [15:04:38] Ty [15:04:46] I’ll see if I have time tonight [15:07:11] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Miscellaneous_Wiki_Stats has also been updated for whoever's interested [15:07:19]