[00:21:27] I guess that CF are doing some trolling to me lol [00:45:06] I mean it does say oidc at the top? [01:23:35] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T813#14275 this was very funny to read considering we are THE most local staff control wiki farm [01:23:51] MacFan4000 I forgot youve been round since 2016 ngl [01:25:10] yup [01:26:33] Pretty sure you cant restrict settings and such with BlueSpice, which is why ManageWiki is just better [01:26:44] hence "too much control" [01:28:08] ManageWiki was very much in its infancy back then, so mw-config PRs were the norm [01:28:51] Extension:ManageBaby [01:30:43] the controls that were available (which were restricted to Tech/Stewards/Wiki Creators (cause they had managewiki rights back then) were pretty much just a slightly more limited version of Special:ManageWiki/core [01:33:53] Reception is the oldest tech member, his account is the 19th ever created on Miraheze [01:34:03] wow [01:35:02] and now there are over 500k accounts [01:47:02] cosmicalpha: okay scratch what i said in dms ill work on the inactivity script tmr :p my poor mans bastion is 502ing. this is what i get for not setting the docker container to auto start [01:47:08] ill ssh in on my phone tmr [01:54:45] beta are you okie dokie https://test.mirabeta.org/wiki/User_talk:MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM [02:02:00] looks like an account a QA engineer would make [02:02:26] for me [02:02:31] or* [02:03:03] or Morshu [02:03:50] FINALLY I got a sane way to have wikitext support for linms etc... in RequestWiki something I have wanted for years but finally managed to actually find a sane way to do it with CSS lol [02:03:59] lol who made that [02:05:36] non idea [02:07:04] that account belongs to Claire [02:07:31] Oh lol I vaguely remember that now. [02:07:33] sounds bout right [02:07:48] cosmicalpha: yoooo awesome [02:07:57] now add VE support [02:08:10] thats a joke [02:08:15] Oh right clair was testing something with long usernames for something in GlobalNewFiles IIRC [02:08:21] that is easy now lol [02:08:25] (also a joke) [02:08:54] I could add the wikitext toolbar though in reality [02:09:18] its a very eclairian username [02:11:10] RW is about to get a whole new level of functionality (once further discussion happens) [02:11:43] Frim initial settings support to an entire redesign of RequestWikiQueue [02:11:58] Oh and a redesign of RequestWiki [02:12:11] ^ chef cos has been COOKING [02:13:36] That is a new one never been called 'cos' before lol [02:13:38] can someone check https://test.mirabeta.org/wiki/CentralAuth#cs-comment-494 and tell me if the comments show up [02:13:48] You have. once. by me. [02:13:50] i think [02:13:59] I don't remember then lol [02:14:12] im a gen z teenager if i can shorten something i already have [02:14:25] ive called reception ception i think [02:14:52] and now we just to redesign ManageWiki lol [02:18:04] question, https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12766#256177 which of the two extensions should i report the bug to? [02:18:13] DisplayTitle or CommentStreams [02:18:25] I could just add both tags to the task [02:18:29] Yes we definitely do. ManageWiki is my next project. [02:18:34] A much larger project [02:19:03] Good question [02:21:00] https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVe73L1ECeEBPb91-xt4mPPEbWufD2DykaR57Y-H3jy1FsRGWRW0hNZP5YHpqK7YqXeFk&usqp=CAU [02:21:11] cosmicalpha: dis you? [02:21:19] (in regards to old extensions) [02:29:33] lol [03:12:06] [1/2] just installed BlueSpice on local test instance [03:12:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1295947351558586378/d.png?ex=67108086&is=670f2f06&hm=540baad05b4026b1a5b880ac578d8a36f2891450163a83f4161135514ebf58cd& [03:12:19] man, it's really not Vietnamese-friendly [16:37:26] Could I get SMW enabled on mathquest2 wiki? [16:44:58] this has to be requested on [[SR/RS]] [16:44:59]

[16:45:03] damnit [16:45:32] [16:52:57] Thank you! [18:35:20] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1296179692789039206/image.png?ex=671158e8&is=67100768&hm=50fb1bf68dda983e6d751d76174bab6a488b9892256a60a721346328770ab248& [18:35:22] LOL [18:35:29] 479 load!?!?! [18:38:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1296180511579832330/image.png?ex=671159ab&is=6710082b&hm=07b1091f5a6e2cdba2a396b0db260dea03e9b3d7e4b699de19b121c83c6717d2& [18:38:37] nice [18:39:25] Smart error [18:39:52] црф [18:39:54] wha [18:52:43] @cosmicalpha do we still use LdapAuth on internal wikis? [18:53:15] Thought I saw smt bout that [18:53:22] Since it’s being archived [18:57:41] we do [18:57:50] Welcome to 2024 [18:58:05] That didnt make sense [18:58:08] Ldap is ancient [18:58:12] I meant to opposite! [18:58:35] I would like to see the day we dont use ldap or centralauth [18:58:56] auth.miraheze.org when [19:00:31] SUL3 [19:00:41] Coming to Miraheze in about 2030 [19:01:33] Even with SUL3 I don't like CentralAuth [19:01:45] Its restricts a lot of what you can do farm wise [19:01:49] Wikimedia have dropped ldap from MediaWiki and have a new tool called Bitu for managing dev accounts [19:01:51] Or at least makes it more difficult [19:02:05] I mean SUL3 makes it less terrible [19:04:03] Who does [19:04:18] Can we take fandom’s system [19:15:44] we were using ldap for our mail system [19:15:58] we also used it for like matomo [19:16:10] yuck [19:16:24] they barely implemented 2FA last year [19:23:20] We still use it for some logins I think. Matomo and maybe graylog? [19:23:54] WMF needs you to specifically request the ability to enable 2FA [19:24:15] though tbf the threshold is ‘convince Sammy you’re not dumb enough to lock yourself out’ [19:25:06] yeh graylog and grafana and icinga [19:27:38] That was Fandom's fault tho tbf [19:27:46] They use ory kratos which has 2fa by default [19:29:05] paladox: we don’t use LDAP for mail since it moved to google workspace [19:29:49] Still used on Matomo Icinga graylog and grafana [19:30:02] yeh [19:34:08] we do yes [19:36:52] oh interesting, TIL they use that and not an in house solution [20:06:04] They did previously which is weird [20:06:08] It was called Helios [20:06:21] Huh [20:06:23] From what i remember it didn't scale well though [20:06:27] How bad is Kratos [20:06:38] Pretty nice actually, ive tinkered with it [20:06:47] Like Auth0 on steroids [20:06:59] And its written in go, extremely fast [20:07:07] We should make our own Auth system and name it a Bee pun [20:07:09] Cause like [20:07:11] Hive [20:07:34] Yeah I've looked at that a lot recently but migrating from CentralAuth is a huge pain in the arse [20:07:50] Also AuthManager/SessionManager is confusing as hell [20:09:19] Hydra had a pretty robust extension for auth put its not public 😦 [20:18:24] Wouldn’t it be awesome if we could just force people to open source stuff [21:32:50] Is it improper to link to https://we.phorge.it/book/flavor/article/please_please_please when someone does this