[02:59:27] who can do direct 'deletion of phorge account' to? [02:59:54] is that just part of GDPR vanish (CC serverlesshare: ) [03:05:27] Only someone with server access can do it. [03:05:27] that’s often overlooked [03:05:50] im just gonna move it to ye old SR/M [03:05:53] I think my account’s nuking would’ve been so too had people not know me [03:05:58] and send the link here [03:06:10] I always do it myself when handling GDPR requests. But historically it wss overlooked. [03:06:21] This is why yours was lol [03:06:56] I handled my own GDPR request \:P [03:07:18] But the request was still open in TSPortal [03:07:35] I got a 500 error trying to process it iirc [03:07:39] lovely 500 error [03:08:07] also is it more socially acceptable to bug the developer of a maintainer about your shitty code using it if you know they IRL and are also one of the only people you know who's experienced in it [03:08:10] asking for a friend [03:09:00] unless you’re annoying about it, I don’t think they’ll care [03:09:26] unless they’re one of those people who don’t like to be pinged or talked to for some reason unless you’re their fellow crony [03:10:53] nah lego isn't really that type of person from what i can tell [03:11:12] also i think this may not even be my fault or I'm being really dumb [03:11:35] may be some weird error with my network that's being read as a page not found [03:13:07] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Miscellaneous#Phabricator_account_deletion [03:18:44] It needs shell access which I don't have right now so someone else will have to. [03:19:24] im kinda suprised the guy whos imfamously develops on his phone doesn't have mobile ssh set up [03:19:42] I do but I don't have a connection I will SSH from [03:20:08] I am on a public wifi connection right now and I will nof SSH from a public wifi. [03:20:20] I switched to iPhone and now I don’t have an ssh client 💔 [03:20:37] terminus is what i use [03:20:45] me too [03:20:54] i need to get my hands on an actual laptop [03:21:07] but I have to pay for premium as otherwise I can't SSH into MH servers due to bast [03:21:08] most of my dev work lately is through my poor mans bastion [03:21:23] yeah, that’s the issue [03:21:41] web VSC instance running on my VPS that i use on my school laptop and ssh from there [03:21:58] but connecting to prod on a spyware loaded device seems like a bad idea [03:22:19] thanks education system [03:22:35] I have to go (I am in a place with no cell connection but found public wifi so I am leaving and wont be reachable for awhile) [03:22:45] enjoy [03:22:49] if applicable [03:23:08] if not [03:23:10] What can you enjoy without cell connection? [03:23:11] survive? [03:23:24] spoken like a true DTech [12:30:54] [1/2] Any techs here able to help me out with this issue? Not sure if ya’ll view the support thread so hopefully a cc link here isn’t too much. [12:30:54] [2/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1296487451220508745 [16:11:13] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/P528 - wow thats a lot (3015) [16:12:06] * MacFan4000 wonders how much disk space that equates to [16:15:04] Seems it would be a pretty easy bash script to find out [17:19:32] I see a few that should have been deleted several times over, e.g. the foot wikis. If they're still taking up space, that's space we should reclaim. [19:49:08] Just got a wiki set up. The wiki is intended to document aspects of an ongoing story. Some aspects are spoilers I'd love to note down, but are not permitted until the story arrives at that moment. Is there any plugin to restrict page access by role, so I can force certain pages to be admin-only? [19:50:08] MediaWIki isn't build to support selected access [19:50:45] max we can offer is fully private wiki w/ whitelisted pages [19:51:14] Yep, I'm aware. But are there no plugins? [19:51:21] Or, extensions, even. [19:51:22] and in private wikis you give access to user manually [19:51:52] not I'm aware of, and chances they'll be accepted are low [19:52:03] security risks iirc [19:52:07] Yeah, the issue is the userbase is for the people involved, so it's all spoilers. [19:52:20] Huh, ok. Strange O?o but fair enough I guess. [19:52:30] I suppose I'll need to note to down up to a point. [19:53:07] There are some [19:53:10] They’re all bad ideas [19:53:29] And automatically declined [19:53:30] Ah, I see. So likely not Miraheze-approved. [19:53:47] Yeah no we by default decline security reviews on them [19:53:56] Peanut butter and asbestos [19:54:26] Fair enough. Makes it a bit more awkward, but I can keep local notes on changes as and when they are discovered. [19:55:12] I can only suggest to make a JS to cover/blur page content w/ warning text and "proceed" button [19:56:25] If it’s for DND I’d recommend against ngl [19:56:49] Everyone knows assume good faith does not apply in dnd groups [19:56:53] The group we have comes from an anarchy community, so they're the kind of people that would just look anyway and ruin it 😛 is ok, just means I'll need to create. Local notes, and prepare for the big rewrite that'll happen mid-campaign. [19:57:18] Anarchy Minecraft specifically. Good guys, but there's no way I'd trust scout's honour with them 😛 [19:57:44] How do you get a group of role players from minecraft anarchy [19:58:30] I don’t trust the scouts in my troop with scouts honor lmao [19:58:44] Befriend the nearest crazy old lady that screams at you. More or less. [19:59:02] Huh [19:59:10] Now I feel I need to ask more [19:59:58] Links are blocked if you’re not #verify ‘d [20:00:18] Per page access restrictions in MediaWiki are about as useful as chocolate fire guards [20:00:37] Aw. No links. Well, if you want to see the old lady, look up "Jared 2013 old lady". She's a riot, real fun. [20:01:01] Idk why every community I go into, I befriend the nearest old lady, but it always works out, and the gossiping is top tier. :u [20:02:47] I think my main account is tied to my miraheze account, so, probably can't do so. Was forced to get this alt account. Hoping to recover the main one, as I actually didn't do anything. [20:03:31] Politics server got termed that I didn't talk in. So all of the users did too. Discord support is just terrible to sort it out. [20:03:33] Ah [20:03:43] Oof [20:04:05] Still, thanks for the info re the permissions plugin. I guess I just gotta keep the top tier info on the down-low [20:04:08] You can try to re verify [20:04:16] If it complains I can kick your old account [20:04:25] Assuming you can verify Ownership [20:04:31] I don't want to break the old account, I anticipate winning my appeal. 😛 [20:04:38] Heh [20:04:41] Holding out hope a bit longer. [20:04:50] Try /verify and see if it works [20:04:53] It might just [20:05:20] I'll see if I can register 2 accounts to 1 I suppose. Or if it's that easy. [20:06:20] Wow, I just tapped the button and it autocompleted. [20:06:33] Smart bot [20:06:49] I, uh, feel a bit uneasy. For all I know my account isn't me. o_o probably shouldn't have been so easy. [20:07:09] Like, here wasn't even verification, or a passcode, or an email check. [20:07:20] And I just joined [20:07:30] You’re logged in to your miraheze account on your browser? [20:07:33] Computers are weird some days [20:07:37] Yes, ios [20:07:41] iPad [20:08:20] Then yea that’s it, it routes you to the OAuth app, you mention you’ve done this before so already approved probably, directed back to WikiBot with confirmation [20:08:24] let me try [20:16:17] perhaps. I didn't even notice a swap to a different window. [20:16:32] maybe it was the integrated browser. must've been fast [20:16:42] Or if you’ve authen on this account it would be automatically [20:23:02] in any event, here you go Pix: [20:23:29] the video. you can probably tell why I enjoy her company so much, and why I couldn't trust her 😛 [20:24:08] but I don't want to steer the topic too wildly off track. is a shame, but understandable. I'll just keep the secrets off-wiki until the reveal. [23:02:01] Is there a reason that you can't seem to use Tabbers in the site notice? Or a fix? [23:02:52] Huh, haven’t heard of that before [23:02:59] [1/2] expected functionality: [23:02:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1298058986234449971/image.png?ex=67182f23&is=6716dda3&hm=2f947a406210b52a866e243a6d52627682882a6778467bfba9659a42066e84ec& [23:03:22] [1/2] end result: [23:03:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1298059084767039538/image.png?ex=67182f3a&is=6716ddba&hm=1787a636d4abdccdfda2c4b72bba6b3cb2b0bd8a57a4bd28fc774f47833d76ec& [23:03:42] the tabber html etc. still works [23:03:52] you can see it in the inspect element [23:04:25] I've not edited this wiki for 3 hours and I found a possible bug 😛 [23:04:31] I'm like a magnet to them sometimes [23:04:55] though to be fair I had this solution for another wiki, but it didn't seem to care to add it [23:05:05] You remind me of a certain trans pastry who hangs around IRC [23:05:36] Would it make it stranger to inform you I got Cake - the ultimate Pastry - into Minecraft? 😛 [23:05:52] a bit more co-incidence perhaps [23:05:58] start talkong [23:06:24] I ran the old Quest for Cake campaign. I asked Notch directly if he'd add cake into Minecraft if it won. [23:06:47] if I didn't seek permission to make the page, or ask for cake if it won, or ran the campaign and all promotion, we'd not have cake :u [23:07:09] granted yes, the people got it in. but I was the first domino in the chain [23:07:13] 😛 [23:07:19] Give me a sec i need to add the citation needed emoji here [23:08:02] here's the article of my campaign: [23:08:05] https://www.moddb.com/groups/2010-indie-of-the-year-awards/features/best-motyioty-promotions-2010 [23:08:07] that’s pretty funny though(although if you do have old references id love to see them, the wikipedian blood) [23:09:03] and in order to run that page, I had to make the Mojang AB company page. so I'm an honorary member there [23:09:04] https://www.moddb.com/company/mojang-ab/members [23:09:07] don’t believe ive heard of moddb [23:09:19] it was all the rage like 15 years ago [23:09:33] it had all the good Half Life and Portal mods [23:09:49] hmmm what was i doing 15 years ago [23:09:49] think of it like a precursor to Curseforge [23:09:51] oh yea [23:09:56] i was busy being a toddler [23:10:39] full time job as you know [23:11:23] I was busy being the moderator of the Minecraft Wiki, running the Minecraft Moddb page and drudging through College for a media degree that AI has made functionally worthless 😄 [23:11:52] All at 16. [23:12:00] Minecraft Wiki is awesome [23:12:13] You were in college at 16? [23:12:16] It is far better now.p, yes. [23:12:28] Yep. UK education, its slightly different. [23:12:41] wowza. I was busy dying at algebra two [23:12:42] I was taking a National diploma in media production. [23:12:58] ah, British [23:13:07] The differences are interesting [23:13:43] But yeah modern MC wiki rocks [23:14:04] in addition to being a huge win for indie wikis [23:14:36] which we here at miraheze inc™️ think are very cool [23:17:30] Yeah, for sure. The old days were very fun. I got demoted 3 times over my pushing for the Herobrine page. [23:17:46] Oh dear [23:17:54] We kept getting what we called "Herospam". Everything was due to Herobrine. Redstone, cave sounds, everything. [23:18:19] I begged them to just make the page to make it end, they refused. I tried a few times myself, and got demoted. Eventually, they indulged me. [23:18:36] Herospam fell to practically 0 edits within hours. [23:18:58] I felt so smug. I feel proud now, but I was 16 then, so, smug 😛 [23:19:33] Did the concept of consensus building not exist back then [23:20:09] Oh it did, but we had a lovable grouch who demanded things his way. I think it was around when Curse took over that they gave me a chance. [23:20:36] Quatroking. Lovely guy. A bit of a dick. This was before the wiki had any company own it. [23:20:58] Moddb was and for various games still is huge [23:22:17] No company should own a community wiki In decision making but i assume you mean operations [23:22:57] [1/2] Curse were nice. We had a lovely community manager, Wynthyst. I draw a lot of my standards from her. Sadly, the day before one of my birthdays, she passed away. I. Think I was really trying to hold back tears the following day when I was told. She was a big support for me, and stood between management and the userbase, stopping the most egregious ads. When she went, the ads began [23:22:58] [2/2] going to hell, and Fandom didn't help when they acquired the Curse wikis. [23:23:28] Yes, Wynthyst stepped in and helped if I recall. Decided to give it a go. I'd need to try to check the logs to fully know the chronology. [23:23:44] She made the team more professional and co-ordinated. [23:24:26] https://minecraft.wiki/w/Minecraft_Wiki:Wynthyst [23:25:46] I try to follow in her footsteps when helping wikis. She had a big impact. [23:26:36] Sadly, doesn't always work out. Rounding back to the tabbed situation, I proposed. That solution for the miraheze-hosted 2B2T wiki. They never took it on. Trying to do it on this dnd one, it breaks 😛 [23:28:07] Hm. [23:28:31] Well it looks like the Javascript of the tabber isn’t working, that or the CSS [23:28:47] I don’t have access to inspect element rn so i cant look closely [23:29:17] I can check in a bit, I'm not at my pc right now but will be soon, funnily enough, speaking again of cakes, been making some tonight 😛 [23:29:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1298065683401281598/IMG_9031.jpg?ex=6718355f&is=6716e3df&hm=be634cfb452888c3239ed43f4d1ccb5d883b5d613a0fcb5cccb486e9c39c68bc& [23:29:45] But after I get the next batch in, I'll check. [23:29:55] ah hell yea:EpicFaceMH: [23:30:10] hm [23:30:18] CLAIRE. Are you online mate? [23:30:29] Sadly I can't touch them. Sultanas. But, tomorrow, a clear batch [23:32:17] busy having a life probably [23:32:33] if i see her ill ask if she’s seen this issue with tabs [23:35:42] [1/2] that is so obnoxious [23:35:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1298067221209153597/Screenshot_2024-10-22_at_00.35.34.png?ex=671836ce&is=6716e54e&hm=fea08469b8f0f65f9b660b8ecdc9b2c5f60a16266d399781d84c601d11860d4b& [23:36:03] whats one of those [23:36:24] would you rather see ads for [insert fandom advertiser here] [23:36:47] well I use adblocker so heh [23:37:00] i think its a splendid way to bring public/reader visibility to the extension [23:37:24] \12* ads for Fandom 😛 [23:37:38] i might change it to focus on it being old inaccurate etc instead of being fandok [23:37:50] i may go bring up that in their discord [23:37:55] implied [23:38:40] go [23:38:41] my favourite [23:38:49] https://tenor.com/ndB9J8jVk58.gif [23:40:08] ok, at my machine. Inspectin' time. [23:42:00] I can see neither JS events or CSS rules applying to any Tabber element [23:43:38] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1298069218293583952/image.png?ex=671838aa&is=6716e72a&hm=50c2a66d25a60dd7618a6521a79ad64bf8988d27f9b04f4045c2e303f13835b9& [23:45:00] [1/2] these seem to apply to all tabber elements. no other rules: [23:45:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1298069559236100126/image.png?ex=671838fb&is=6716e77b&hm=0025150503988c8042c1f6d87b322988623c966603277a1b4da09afe5c511b6d& [23:50:33] [1/2] something's a bit squiffy on the upload page too 🤔 [23:50:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1298070957243764859/image.png?ex=67183a49&is=6716e8c9&hm=9ca5071f3b52d58556605313c3f942d2cde88af12bae7ede1f3ebe9c4d04d111& [23:50:42] that doesn't look like english. [23:51:01] This again? Ugh [23:51:06] i know its been seen before [23:51:27] there’s a [[phorge]] task for it [23:51:28]