[09:35:45] [1/3] @MediaWiki Specialists On [[Help desk#Users unable to create pages]] I could reproduce the problem. [09:35:46] [2/3] Users are placed in the Group "Users" and the Permissions of that group include "Create pages". But when I want to create a page, it says that I do not have permission. [09:35:46] [3/3] What is the solution? [09:35:46]

[09:40:53] [1/2] you sure it's not this? [09:40:53] [2/2] > You must confirm your email address before editing pages. Please set and validate your email address through your user preferences. [09:45:02] wait no... i was trying to edit a page ^^; [09:46:08] I wouldn't have to confirm my email, as I already did a year ago 🙂 [09:47:00] [1/2] oh hmm, when logged out, it also says [09:47:00] [2/2] > Site 77 Wiki has restricted the ability to create new pages. You can go back and edit an existing page, or log in or create an account. [09:47:16] wanted to have all my bases covered ^^; [09:50:11] appears to affect mainspace only interestingly enough [09:56:08] Weird huh? [09:57:57] [1/4] ```php [09:57:57] [2/4] * Surgeon General's Warning: prolonged exposure to this class is known to cause [09:57:58] [3/4] * headaches, which may be fatal. [09:57:58] [4/4] ``` [09:58:00] does it need edit right to save the page actually? [09:58:02] i'm gonna have fun i guess [09:58:07] createpage [09:58:32] yeah, but can you save it w/o edit right? [09:58:40] wdym [09:59:59] Hello @blankeclair [10:00:02] hello ^_^ [10:00:05] it's uh, been a while... [10:01:16] Ah... Create talk is activated, not create page (Did he just change it?) [10:01:30] I can edit logged in [10:01:42] I could have sworn that he had it activated [10:01:45] it's about creating pages, not edting [10:01:50] Yeah editing no problem [10:02:54] Which should be on * [10:03:41] Eh [10:03:51] omg it's not failing on my shell tests =w= [10:05:14] https://robloxsite77.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/permissions/user [10:05:38] createpage is activated [10:05:54] But I cannot create a page [10:06:12] It's https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ArticleCreationWorkflow [10:06:23] Damn stupid extensions [10:06:44] ? [10:07:05] wha [10:07:10] how did you figure _that_ out [10:07:23] Can create my talk page [10:07:35] only mainspace is affected yeah [10:07:42] Looking through Special:Version [10:07:55] I ruled out the usual troubles [10:08:06] huh okay [10:08:31] So it was not installed on that wiki? [10:08:36] So I was looking for what extensions would do dumb stuff [10:08:37] [1/2] meanwhile me: [10:08:37] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1346061695331733514/2025-03-03_21-07.png?ex=67c6d124&is=67c57fa4&hm=2816ea7d71cceba21b4cf92271eb05e0538175bf8d44cb81127bcb376892949c& [10:08:42] Is installed [10:09:36] As noob I better let this go 😄 [10:09:57] @rodejong tell them to disable that extension or set it up [10:10:10] Okay [10:10:43] i love how the command for getting the stacktrace in psysh is wtf [10:15:51] Done. Please check if I wrote that correctly. [10:16:12] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help_desk#Users_unable_to_create_pages [10:16:51] Lgtm, thanks [10:17:27] I gues that abbr means Legitimate? [10:17:46] Looks good to me [10:17:51] Ohw hahaha [10:17:58] Thanks [11:14:49] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1346078357170946128/image0.jpg?ex=67c6e0a9&is=67c58f29&hm=ad50aceb48511738293169bf91eda85cdd6afc57ebcf5ac91af2a852710bdb0c& [11:14:51] do i phorge [11:40:09] that looks very phorgeable ye [11:44:01] Try again. If it happens twice, definitely phone [11:44:04] Phorge [11:44:19] That was spell check [11:44:24] We don't offer phone support yet [12:15:19] i have phorged https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13298 [13:03:46] mw-ref has been deprecated in MediaWiki [13:40:34] Never heard of it [15:42:19] It's the little [1] that shows when there's a footnote. [15:45:43] @rhinosf1 are there documented studies on the adverse mental side effects of prolonged exposure to mediawiki [15:46:06] Cause Codex is not doing fun stuff to my head [15:46:18] /hj [15:46:25] God it's a good job I was on mute on my meeting [15:46:40] LMAO [15:47:06] But I don't think so [15:47:11] Also fuck Cisco for crashing [15:49:23] Okay it restarted [15:49:44] @pixldev someone should do that research [15:49:48] wait, what's instead of it then? [15:51:33] I think none of us want to see the numbers let’s be honest [15:51:33] The Cite footnote markers ("[1]") are now rendered by Parsoid, and the deprecated CSS is no longer needed. [15:52:15] This is on Mediawiki wikis [15:52:23] So will come to us as well? [15:52:40] Or was that already introduced with the upgrade to 1.43? [15:52:42] Technically we have a duty of care towards volunteers [15:52:45] try to brain this ... [15:52:47] No [15:53:19] I think your issue is mixing codex and non codex in one script [15:53:20] @rodejong Wikimedia Tech news reports changes in each wmf weekly branch [15:53:45] It could be up to 9 months before we see the change at worse I think [15:53:55] Ah okay [15:54:14] Well I'd like to be prepared you know 😄 [15:54:38] I hate changes so I get to get used to the ideas that things change 😄 [15:55:17] 8 months [15:55:36] There are 26 weekly wmf releases [15:56:03] The final weekly release is T-6 of the version [15:56:39] Theoretically [15:56:53] Maybe? But I don’t see how it would cause an issue since it’s in its own function being set as an event [15:56:58] Same as the wm demos I think [15:57:12] I did notic it’s missing a mounted and unmount call [15:57:15] Maybe that? [15:57:35] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JSherman_(WMF)/revertrisk.js [15:58:03] If you dont need to do anything specific on mount or unmount you don't need those functions in vue. Those are for lets say, if you added some stuff to `window` in the app lifetime and you want to remove that when the component unmount. [15:58:11] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:EGardner_(WMF)/codex-hello-world.js [15:59:04] @rodejong for example, the first changes from 1.43 would have been in the Tech news on April 15, it wasn't released as 1.43.0 until Dec 21st and we upgraded Jan 27th [15:59:06] So you think the model of defining UI and logic in an event on a link isn’t supported? [16:00:00] This week is wmf.19 with up to wmf.26 planned [16:00:16] So release is about 13 weeks away [16:01:01] I'm not entirely sure, vue isn't my strongest language, but I think the way its done at present is probably the issue. [16:01:31] It would probably be much easier to rewrite from scractch adding the dropdown in codex also, or just use OOUI because Codex is a terribly incomplete and half assed product [16:02:08] Based on today's conversation with @theoneandonlylegroom, I'm going to say posting random snippets with context or information from Tech news is probably not helpful @rodejong [16:02:24] Please either provide a link to Tech news if you want to announce when it's out [16:02:47] Or provide some critical thought as guidance if there's something actionable for users now [16:02:54] wut [16:03:09] Or go and update the release task on Phorge if it's something for sysadmins for users to note [16:03:13] ayay sr 🙂 [16:03:38] Basically don't confuse the fuck out of you with misleading information for no reason [16:04:17] Worse than OOUI? [16:05:05] Well probably not no. The implementation is solid and its a much better product, but its a half assed solution they're trying to shoe-horn into MediaWiki before its completed [16:05:42] Its like breakfast with no beans. Sure, it works, but its terrible [16:07:18] The single most effective way to yell I am British I have ever read [16:08:13] I may ask the Wikimedia discord just in case but probably a dead end for now [16:16:32] It's true though [16:16:44] You can't have a full English without beans