[01:18:44] are you logged in with a bot password? [01:18:48] idk if that would help but [01:21:27] (and if using bot passwords make also sure you have "High-volume (bot) access " switched on in BotPassword permission) [01:49:18] [1/4] @rhinosf1 for the wiki alliance template, i think you’ve known, were gonna use external images for the icons [01:49:19] [2/4] We were thinking of two things: [01:49:19] [3/4] - host it on indierobloxwikis.org, best, but idk if we can easily get on the CSP [01:49:19] [4/4] - githubusercontent, if the first doesnt fail, then this would probably do [01:49:22] what do u think [03:00:32] [1/2] https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/pull/5849 [03:00:33] [2/2] safe to merge even though enews doesn't have any advanced permissions on-wiki? [03:01:12] Only if a bureaucrat gives/gave written permission somewhere [03:01:42] uhh @enews we gotta have permission lol [03:02:14] Its basically the same type of permission you'd need to make ManageWiki changes to make config changes. [03:02:32] oh @pixldev andcan confirm i have permission from @buildaroo and @celeranis [03:02:59] https://discord.com/channels/1293312885510111417/1347156907953225769 see [03:03:08] lemme see [03:03:40] Yee she just reacted so [03:03:44] merge time [03:03:44] id really prefer build just say it here [03:03:45] @blankeclair you can merge [03:03:47] :merge: [03:03:51] ah oki ^_^ [03:04:11] Claire you should join IRWA server even if u dont roblox.. [03:04:35] Eh [03:04:38] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1348491711592009749/image.png?ex=67cfa845&is=67ce56c5&hm=ed04d1b20dca289c4b0fddbb7a8f812905e4d3dbeea21498fd549b94419475a9& [03:04:52] Is that the WEB version o MOBILE [03:05:05] yes… [03:05:15] i have to use the web version of microsoft teams because the app doesn't support logging in with passkeys lmao [03:05:30] I have reasons and also use the mobile app [03:05:50] Thanks for the confirmation on that btw. Just gotta be careful random users don't try to sneak in unwanted config changes to wikis. Not that I didn't trust you in it exactly just that we need confirmation from wiki admins to do it, just like how you need the correct rights to use ManageWiki on-wiki. [03:06:12] my school has a microsoft teams for like every class but everyone just uses telegram instead [03:06:48] [1/2] Oh yes thats understandable [03:06:48] [2/2] It probably isn’t understandable that me and buildaroo are good friends on first glance [03:09:40] lol, lmao [03:10:17] [1/3] like the first thing on the first day of semester is [03:10:17] [2/3] heres the class telegram group/channel [03:10:17] [3/3] and yall go make ur team groups [04:41:47] @cosmicalpha what happened with your version of SimpleBlogPage? [04:42:08] It seems BlueSpice has basically taken it over and made their extensions a hard dependency. (which ruins the purpose of the extension) [04:42:43] Someone else decided to take it over so I abandoned it. I guess I could fix my version and keep maintaining it... [04:43:12] Well I ain't installing BlueSpice extensions to use SimpleBlogPage again, but I ain't pressuring you to maintain i t. [04:43:22] But I will be raising a complaint with MediaWiki over that. [04:44:03] I guess I can see what I can do about my version. [04:44:42] I didn't fix it for modern MediaWiki because they took it over however that was before bluespice extensions became hard dependencies too. [04:47:10] hi yes [05:10:25] I'm making a Phabricator Task on Wikimedia about it, do you mind if I attach you to it? [05:30:40] was WMF even involved w/ it? [05:32:02] or it doesn't matter? [05:34:44] Wikimedia Foundation is the one that made the Repo for the extension when BlueSpice requested to maintain it.. [05:36:09] [1/2] I'm thinking it may not have been intentional, [T13252](https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13252) gives me some clues, two functions that cause the extension to error out/not work, but the BlueSpice extension those functions are from aren't hard-required like OOJSPlus is, I'm thinking maybe they forgot to take that into account when they were testing their ch [05:36:10] [2/2] anges, but it still broke the extension. [05:36:22] I'm gonna make the bug report anyways, but yeah it may have been unintentional. [06:12:39] I can't send phabricator links here because of automod, but its T388359. [06:17:07] you gotta #verify to send links [06:23:40] Hmm, thanks. [07:03:00] Can we bit a less bitey please [07:18:30] I wouldn't say I'm being "bitey", but sure? [08:36:32] eeeeh, wouldn't call that violation of the purpose of the extension a bite tbh [08:44:52] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1348577334495678536/image0.jpg?ex=67cff803&is=67cea683&hm=b595042858ffcde006aff7f896168fbd69c756b41324e222f674bed483b52a0b& [08:45:19] tried to recreate a cargo table as a replacement and got into this error [11:18:39] They'd need to enable the exception details wg to find out what's causing that. [11:20:25] i forgot to notify that this was resolved [11:45:14] aeywoo: we also log exceptions privately to greylog [12:18:28] For ref, the exception details can include non public information so that will never be enabled [12:18:48] As @blankeclair said, we have our own private logs we can pull if we have the exception I'd [12:19:17] (nit: that technically isn't the exception id, but the request id) [12:19:47] @blankeclair I couldn't be bothered explaining a request ID tbh [12:19:55] fair [12:20:04] I normally go with the really important random letters and numbers [12:20:17] [le funny characters] [12:21:39] @blankeclair also go sleep [12:22:02] what if i rewrite a portion of a gadget on the rainverse wiki ^^; [12:22:15] @blankeclair if you do it in your dreams [12:22:28] it's gonna be a net negative [12:27:16] https://rainverse.wiki/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-SpecialUploadPrefillFromComic.js?diff=prev&oldid=36672 [12:32:40] Is this an RCS chat bot? [12:32:47] irc [12:33:15] That's the one. [12:33:21] God, I forgot people still use IRC. [12:33:38] heh [12:34:01] there's #cutiestrytosleepatcongress on hackint x3 [12:35:40] So what do you do Eclair. [12:35:46] wdym? [12:35:55] Oh, I see you use Discord and IRC? [12:36:01] yeah, i do use both :p [12:36:35] Well, I hope they're able to sort out SimpleBlogPage soonish, I'd love to use the extension again by the turn of the century. [12:36:41] the all essential irc channel: https://files.catbox.moe/sqbryu.png [12:36:59] I thought Libera chat shutdown? [12:37:12] oh? [12:37:14] did you mean freenode? [12:37:24] Oh yeah those guys, they had that whole hostile takeover or what-not. [12:37:28] yeah [12:40:13] So what are you currently doing, anything Miraheze related? [12:40:42] it's been a bit since i've edited the rainverse wiki, i wanna do more lol [12:41:10] yeesh, https://rainverse.wiki/wiki/Category:Pages_with_invalid_ComicFury_permalinks [12:41:14] 426 items [12:41:25] Ahh, the one thing I enjoy is setting up wikis and such and setting up new degbian instances, unfortunately there's a lot of hair pulling involved thanks to 👐 Linux [12:42:02] i'm an arch user :3c [12:42:14] tfw i find it more convenient to run arch on my server lol [12:43:14] If I could use Windows 7 for everything I still would, but unfortunately, nah. I'm moving to Linux after Win 10 ends support, I'm thinking either Mint or Arch tbh. [12:43:27] I found Debian is my favourite flavour for servers though. [12:43:31] i'd recommend mint for beginners tbh [12:43:37] arch for intermediate-advanced folx [12:44:24] I've been using Ubuntu and Debian via CLI for three years or so now, I'm getting there. [12:44:29] I'll never touch vim though. [12:44:50] oh damn :3c [12:44:58] i prefer nano lol ^^; [12:45:07] Yeah same, I use it all the time. [12:45:07] i can use vi(m) if i have to, but i'm more familiar with nano [12:45:13] I have to use Termius though to even connect to my servers. [12:45:38] i use plain openssh on my phone lol [12:45:52] Windows CMD is apparently very easily corruptable. [12:46:08] oh [12:46:15] (also, wdym corruptable?) [12:46:23] Microsoft Employees hate him, Satya Nadella loaves him, with this one simple step: [12:46:31] Upgrade from Windows XP to Windows 8, and then to Windows 10. [12:46:47] The holy trinity. [12:46:51] fun fact: i have a windows xp vm for them stubborn games [12:46:58] and windows 10 vm for them stubborn docx files [12:47:05] and a baremetal windows 11 install that i try to not use [12:47:44] My grandmother loves BigFish Games, it's a whole thing that exists in Australia, but basically all their games were Flash games, until like 2020. But over 60% of their library are still flash games. And there's one I cannot run on Win 10 at all, but it will run on Windows 7. [12:48:00] oh yeouch [12:48:05] i presume you have heard of flashpoint then? [12:48:11] Yeah. [12:48:19] how did that go? x3 [12:48:37] Same issue as running it through BigFish Games, it opens and never starts. [12:48:43] ah damn [12:49:16] But the game was made alongside it's predecessor, it released not too long after it, I'm not sure what they did to break this specific one, but the predecessor works fine. [12:49:52] But anyways, you know one MediaWiki extension I hate? [12:50:01] Cargo? [12:50:10] SocialProfile [12:50:15] what's the most insecure mediawiki extension and why is it cargo [12:50:17] oh [12:50:29] I would've said Widgets or Graph lmao. [12:50:31] btw, rainverse wiki on windows xp: https://files.catbox.moe/6p88x9.png [12:50:36] honestly fair lmao [12:50:44] the widgets rce was something [12:50:51] Damn that's cool. [12:51:14] ikr? [12:51:21] i love the watercolor theme [12:51:41] I liked XP and Vista, but Windows 7 I ran that for like eight years. [12:52:06] And I only upgraded because it received an update that made gaming on Win 10 not terrible, and that's where I'm at. [12:52:06] oh WOW [12:52:39] But I refuse to use Windows 11 if they want to ship "AI" features as default. [12:52:44] I will go straight to Linux. [12:52:47] \o/ [12:53:12] i'm glad that most of the games i play are old games lol [12:53:29] shangri-la, the witch's heart series, end roll, mother 3, earthbound :p [12:53:40] Nice. [12:53:59] the windows xp vm only serves to run shagri-la xD [12:54:31] easyrpg player can do witch's heart, wine does end roll (though i should try w/ easyrpg player), and obv gba and snes emulators for the latter two [12:55:15] My favourite old games were all of the Age of Mythology games, all Mystery Case Files games, Emergency 4, Minecraft, the old Lego games etc. [12:55:38] i wonder how the lego island decomp is going [12:55:46] I thought they finished it lmao. [12:56:04] oh damn, seems to be yeah [12:56:15] idk i basically only watch mattkc's youtube channel for the progress x3 [12:56:59] My favourite game is Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks on the Nintendo DS/i. [12:59:00] So what exactly is Rainverse. [12:59:32] lmao, loginwikibeta is marked inactive xD [12:59:36] > [10/03/2025 23:59] So what exactly is Rainverse. [12:59:48] it's the universe of the rain webcomic by jocelyn samara [12:59:52] it's uh... very expansive [12:59:52] Lmao, loginwikibeta? [12:59:57] login.mirabeta.org [13:00:22] So what's happening on this beta wiki? [13:00:38] not much lol [13:00:49] Quick, add the Cargo extension and prank them! [13:01:27] ? [13:03:08] lol, the magnet in my laptop is holding my keychain up, which is holding my yubikey up xD [13:03:10] Well you said it was insecure. [13:03:23] Mult-tasking. [13:03:36] the rainverse wiki uses cargo :p [13:03:39] the concept is amazing [13:03:40] Do you see when people edit their messages? [13:03:42] the code is subpar though [13:03:46] not on irc, no [13:03:56] So I can hide super secret details from you [13:04:06] I wonder ||do spoilers work||, I think the answer is no. [13:04:08] (be gay do crime) [13:04:16] No spoilers don't work [13:04:16] do crime, be gay [13:04:28] 00,00i see the markdown on irc unfortunately, but spoilers on irc side do get sent as spoilers on discord [13:04:38] interesting [13:08:13] Ah, not sure who that is. [13:08:26] https://rainverse.wiki/wiki/lynn [13:10:16] What an interesting comic concept. [13:10:29] Not my style, but I'm sure people enjoy it. [13:11:16] Dear god... they've changed to Discord. [13:11:21] rain ran for 11 years, so the artstyle at the start is a bit... _old_ [13:11:38] hehe :3c [13:17:52] > easyrpg-player: error while loading shared libraries: libicui18n.so.75: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [13:17:56] god i don't miss this about arch [13:20:28] ElasticSearch is the worst thing to setup. [13:20:32] It never works when I do it. [13:20:55] Same goes for Redis. [15:53:42] omg rain [15:53:45] rain is so good [15:54:18] @.labster hi, around? [16:09:31] I have opinions on redos [17:03:57] Who doesn’t [17:11:07] PICNIC [17:40:14] nope, I'm using an oauth owner only consumer [18:08:37] https://github.com/miraheze/IRC-Discord-Relay/pull/28 I forgot to add that originally lol. Untested still though... [18:18:25] <.labster, replying to paladox> Just waking up now. I hate the time change [18:26:18] are you able to review and merge https://github.com/labster/HighlightLinksInCategory/pull/11 please @.labster [18:31:45] <.labster> I was kinda hoping you had switched it to query builder too when I saw it wasn’t a one-liner [18:37:36] just wanted to do something quick to fix the spam log we're getting [18:50:17] thank you @.labster !! [19:02:55] <.labster> Merged [20:48:24] <.labster> I’ll make a new version later today, mostly style changes [20:58:36] :3 [21:03:46] ||we can test that|| [21:03:56] nope didn't work lol [21:05:26] Yeah I reverted because it made it worse lol [21:23:20] is it possible to change the grants/permissions of a oauth owner-only consumer after creating it? I want to add a permission but can't find an option for that [21:23:45] No [21:23:46] ah okay [21:23:48] But its owner only [21:23:53] It's a self service change [21:24:03] the realisation that i can import wiki backups while at school [21:24:21] just `ssh csp.icecone,wikitidebast mwtask181.wikitide.net` [21:25:04] ah, I'll create a new one then, thanks [21:26:18] we secure our ssh connections with https :) [23:07:12] Yes, it's annoying.