[00:00:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to notaracham> Why so
[00:01:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Every solution is imperfect, people have feelings about use cloudflare, overdependence on a single provider for things we don't control...
[00:02:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> And each option we evaluated the last time has region-specific problems.
[00:03:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Hm.
[00:03:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I like Cloudflare, but I agree we should be cautious about putting all our eggs in one basket
[00:03:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> E.g. GDPR compliance vs godawfully big bot pass rate vs incompatibility with certain MW things vs works great but effectively blocks china
[00:04:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Although, if something happens with CF, bigger problems are afoot
[00:04:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to notaracham> Also fair
[00:04:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I wonder if it would be possible/ worthwhile to A/B test
[00:05:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to notaracham> i believe the captcha would still be unfillable for turnstile?
[00:05:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> unless there's either something i don't know about, or a different reason to switch
[00:06:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to blankeclair> yeah, if that's the case then that doesn't really solve the problem.
[00:06:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> i haven't checked, but from what i remember on how discussiontools handles captchas, it would also break
[00:06:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> I don't think the tech works in the exact same way from a quick glance, but yeah, could very well hit the same incompatibility
[00:07:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> ight lemme double check
[00:07:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Appreciate it, finalizing some Trust & safety stuff at the moment
[00:10:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit/+/f001c4fcc09b5805f10a743a58a3128de7e2fc43/includes/Turnstile/HTMLTurnstileField.php#45
[00:10:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> always a good sight to see /j
[00:12:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit/+/f001c4fcc09b5805f10a743a58a3128de7e2fc43/includes/Turnstile/Turnstile.php#146
[00:13:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> looks like it ain't gonna work
[00:13:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> basically same problem as my analysis in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T356599#9909003
[00:13:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> (assuming i have the overarching model right in my head of course :p)
[00:16:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Sounds good, thanks for the quick assessment, Claire!
[00:16:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> yw :3