[01:40:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Hey @suzuneu, Q, has Waki285-Bot been erroring lately? Feels like it’s been not actioning some of its repeating tasks (updating the meta RC counter, SR/G clerking)
[02:50:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> I think I got wiki loadouts working on https://loadouttest6.mirabeta.org/wiki/Main_Page
[02:50:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [1/2] Basically the requester selects a desired loadout and CreateWiki will import an XML file during wiki creation.
[02:50:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1475686417463246970/image.png?ex=699e6392&is=699d1212&hm=ce6cd9720789d18f92410dfbe7758a13005b0acbd76489feda183fe61e3de8e7&
[02:51:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [1/3] I tested with these two commits:
[02:51:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [2/3] https://github.com/lihaohong6/CreateWiki/commit/85612a8f713dd077b33bda447763c679b43678c6
[02:51:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [3/3] https://github.com/lihaohong6/mw-config/commit/b69c671a7df7115711b05214f4e395c351496abb
[02:52:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix, replying to posix_memalign> I’ll take one createwiki-label-loadout-test please
[02:52:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to zppix> Here you go! One `createwiki-label-loadout-test` because I didn't bother to rebuild the l10n cache.
[02:53:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix, replying to posix_memalign> Ehh it dont taste right
[02:55:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to zppix> Probably because it contains a random XML dump of extttestwikibeta in it lol
[02:56:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix, replying to posix_memalign> Thats why it tasted like tears and despair
[02:58:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> But I’d be curious where it goes from there, and just how verbose the loadouts will get
[02:59:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> I guess verbose isnt the right term more like scope or how deep will it go
[02:59:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to posix_memalign> [1/2] Still need some more testing on the CreateWiki patch. I also need to figure out how the loadout wiki is going to work. Maybe export latest revision of each non-talk page to an XML file, attribute the edit to `Maintenance script` with a summary "imported from <link to loadout wiki>, see original page for attribution". The XML file gets uploaded somew
[02:59:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to posix_memalign> [2/2] here on the internet and pulled by puppet to be synced to all servers.
[03:00:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [1/2] This is what it looks like when I set up l10n properly on my local wiki btw.
[03:00:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1475688778667659325/image.png?ex=699e65c5&is=699d1445&hm=658f3f3de4ad7795c1dff4d9e67781af3e02ca6ff20ed0d0be3a99beb54034d9&
[03:00:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to zppix> Do you mean how many templates, gadgets, etc. it'll have?
[03:00:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> Yes
[03:01:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> Like is this meant to further curb the messy wikipedia imports people tend to do, or is this an effort simply to ease the initial setup?
[03:03:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [1/2] Gadgets: HotCat (default, registered users only), Reference Tooltips (default, enabled for all), Navigation popups (optional). 
[03:03:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [2/2] Template: not sure. Probably mbox and navbox as a start. Infobox is messy and I don't really want to think about it. Wikipedia templates are usually a huge pile of technical debt (e.g. infobox on dev still relies on Common.css), so maybe we roll with some simpler solutions.
[03:04:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to zppix> Mostly the latter. The former would be a by-product because we can't accommodate all wikipedia templates, but it would still be nice to have less need to import from wikipedia.
[03:05:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> I mean we already discourage wikipedia template imports simply because they werent meant to be used outside of wikipedia, and lets be honest they are a hot mess, this could actually help alot
[03:16:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_, replying to posix_memalign> this would actually be a really good way to package up the more complicated wikipedia things that are useful to wikis (bc 95% of the problem with them is the importation process)
[03:16:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> like e.g. infobox uses common.css on dev bc. the wikipedia one still uses it (this is bc. they have raw infoboxes to handle), I've actually made a fully templatestyles for loginwiki
[03:23:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Thanks for the support. I felt that this is one of the main missing features on MH so I thought I'd give this a try.
[03:24:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Still missing stuff such as enabling additional extensions when a loadout is selected because we don't enable Gadgets by default.
[03:25:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> yeah this is probably one of the best improvements to the new wiki experience possible atp
[03:25:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [1/4] my idea for what to go for re templates would be
[03:25:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [2/4] (a) things like mbox, navbox, infobox and such
[03:25:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [3/4] (b) Template:Documentation and other stuff commonly used in template documentaton
[03:25:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [4/4] (c) commonly used modules
[03:26:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Very aligned with a lot of the ideas we've kicked around in MCR
[03:26:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> The idea of creating quick to deploy loadouts would be very neat
[03:27:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_, replying to posix_memalign> if this becomes a thing I'd just say turn on gadgets by default
[03:27:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> IIRC labster had an extension in mind to simplify that, will have to dredge up a note
[03:30:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mushysludge> is there a way to install the pure skin? ive been stumped for a while
[03:38:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to posix_memalign> I think CA made a PoC of this a few rewrites of CW ago, would be uber excited to see it come to life
[03:39:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to notaracham> I do remember that, am also blanking on the name, urggg
[03:39:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Aha, Data Transfer
[03:40:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Data_Transfer
[03:40:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Yaron extensioj
[03:41:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha, replying to pixldev> https://github.com/miraheze/MirahezeMagic/pull/520 not really load out but "configure-at-request" feature for some of the core settings and what not.
[03:42:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Mhm
[03:44:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to cosmicalpha> I feel like I've seen the default skin selector. It would be a great addition, especially if we adjust the default skins and add Citizen to the roaster.
[03:50:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Wait, it's from 6 months ago. I guess we need to first figure out whether we want to resurrect this PR since merging the loadout patch will probably mess it up with some more merge conflicts.
[03:51:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to posix_memalign> 18 monrhs
[03:51:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> 2024
[03:52:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> hmm yeah that could be linked w/ the loadouts
[03:57:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha, replying to posix_memalign> I could just redo it.
[12:17:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to posix_memalign> [1/2] Yeah I did something similar
[12:17:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to posix_memalign> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1475828916110491648/Screenshot_2026-02-24_at_12.17.02.png?ex=699ee849&is=699d96c9&hm=66ffb3cf70c19415bc5f7fabe6546c2ad946e4bfbbc90f1707187f3091687d5c&
[12:17:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Sorry didn't mean the ping
[12:20:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> where are my authentication-popup fans at /j
[12:22:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> fallback my beloved
[13:34:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to posix_memalign> would it also be possible to do some ManageWiki stuff by default e.g. enabling visual editor
[13:34:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> since that appears to be something that trips a few users up
[13:34:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> fire up a RfF
[19:33:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to originalauthority> Oh this is really nice. I was thinking of providing skin preview links in the help message, but perhaps this is more convenient.
[19:35:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [1/3] Depends on whether you want it to be the default for all wikis or a certain loadout. 
[19:35:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [2/3] To be the default for all wikis would probably require a RfF, especially since VE is a quite controversial. 
[19:35:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [3/3] To make it a part of a loadout simply requires a function call to ManageWiki to enable it after the wiki is created.
[21:36:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_, replying to originalauthority> [1/2] I can steal the code from that home page. ? 🫣 
[21:36:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_, replying to originalauthority> [2/2] The form looks a bit like mine, but I can't get it to work with dark mode. https://ucronias.miraheze.org/wiki/Ucron%C3%ADas:Portada
[21:37:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> What home page
[21:38:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> https://meta.telepedia.net/wiki/Telepedia_Meta_Wiki?action=history&dir=prev
[21:40:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Sure do as you must
[21:40:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> thanks @originalauthority   😀 🫡