[10:51:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whostacking> is there a reason why TPT ids must be an integer? fandom's version allows for strings but not the mw ext
[11:14:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> kind anti-logic from me
[11:15:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> they must be a string when you define them in wikitext
[11:15:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> however they're converted to an integer in the API
[11:24:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> (I will lift this restriction this weeking fwiw)
[15:16:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to pskyechology> it also adds a weird border to it
[17:20:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to originalauthority> huh, how does that work? hashing?
[17:21:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to blankeclair> No, (int)$value 😆
[17:22:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> thats crazy
[17:22:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> oh.
[17:22:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> And getBodyParam is set to integer for that one so MediaWiki enforces that only an integer is sent to the API
[17:23:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> Do you need to cast it in a rest api class? In action apis you get an int automatically if you set the param type accordingly
[17:23:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to originalauthority> how-
[17:24:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to pixldev> that's just how you convert a string to an int lol
[17:24:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> what else did you expect
[17:25:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to abaddriverlol> No but I am paranoid that WMF Developers don't know what they're doing so
[17:25:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> understandable
[17:25:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> I trust the action API but I wouldn't trust Rest APIs
[17:27:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to abaddriverlol> Well yeah but like what does that look like
[17:27:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> like is it the numerical values of the characters in the string
[17:27:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Or wait
[17:27:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Am I dumb
[17:27:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Is it a string of numbers? I understood it as a letter string
[17:28:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to pixldev> no, (int)"2" is 2 for example
[17:28:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to pixldev> I would assume so
[17:29:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> [1/2] Okay I understood it as 
[17:29:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> [2/2] (int)"Wawa" = ????
[17:30:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I don’t like that syntax ugh
[17:30:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to originalauthority> ^
[17:31:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> hm
[17:31:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to pixldev> (:python:❤️)
[17:32:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to pixldev> imagine this but in c xD
[17:32:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> show me
[17:34:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> it's just gonna be a random ptr
[17:36:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [1/2] godbolt said no
[17:36:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1477358893335056524/Screenshot_20260301-043631.jpg?ex=69a47930&is=69a327b0&hm=74e05d89d9a99cf668c7fd6fac172c8163bd204e6bdbf1de35694bd13d1255c1&
[17:37:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> It returns 0
[17:37:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> @pixldev ^
[17:37:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Interesting
[17:37:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> But interestingly if you do (int)"123abc" you will get 123 back and PHP will drop the ABC
[17:38:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> The inverse is not true and abc123 will also yield 0
[17:38:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1477359294352593037/image0.jpg?ex=69a4798f&is=69a3280f&hm=33b803ba56340fe3bfa445a0dacb1403a1f5c137d6f5d2066c09a79c85d94a9c&
[17:38:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to originalauthority> ????
[17:38:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to pixldev> im gonna explode your default term color
[17:38:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Well it exits at the first character it can't convert
[17:38:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> jolly times are OVER
[17:39:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to pskyechology> This isn’t my usual default
[17:39:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> it better be PINK
[17:39:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to pskyechology> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1477359578944639006/image0.jpg?ex=69a479d3&is=69a32853&hm=70c3918efd470ba579d7d6515848e38d5098361a0318a4620a042b928ae9f357&
[17:39:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> that’s why lol
[17:40:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to pskyechology> yaas queen~
[17:53:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> What if you did 124banana456?
[17:53:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Would you get 123456?
[17:53:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <astor.pastor, replying to pixldev> god you are a demon
[17:53:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <astor.pastor> what are those colors
[17:54:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to astor.pastor> The VPS is named Crimson
[17:54:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to pixldev> It's like kpop demonhunter: Christmas edition. 😁
[17:54:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> What, do you all not color code your shells?
[17:54:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to notaracham> Well now I need this in my life
[17:54:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> n..ot really?
[17:54:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to notaracham> GitLab would like a word
[17:54:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <astor.pastor, replying to pixldev> What? How did you end up coloring it to the name of VPS??? I am crine 😭 🙏
[17:54:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to blankeclair> (Yeah neither do I)
[17:55:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <astor.pastor, replying to pixldev> Who does?!?
[17:55:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to pixldev> I should though
[17:55:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Well it’s the name of the organization the VPS belongs to
[17:56:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <astor.pastor, replying to pixldev> Is not a good explanation for choosing this color.... M
[17:56:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> (Jokes aside, I do like an IDE that color-codes different things inside a script for simple visual ID)
[17:56:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I have a plugin for VSCodw for that
[17:56:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> This one is a random color but I know there’s one I can pick the color
[17:56:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> If I find it again is better
[17:57:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <astor.pastor, replying to notaracham> well, i too. But this color choice is very bad. Crimson on black?
[17:57:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to notaracham> they invented a thing called reading for seeing which host you're on visually /j
[17:57:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Crimson code is red, miraheze projects are yellow, automation script may be blue
[17:57:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Visual parsing that combo is a little tough, yes
[17:57:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> When you have 4 different projects windows open on VSC, it helps
[17:57:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to pixldev> stop procrastinating and work on one smh
[17:58:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> i forgot who im speaking to
[17:58:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> im putting more stimulants in your water
[17:58:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to pskyechology> falls asleep
[17:58:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> why does coffee make me sleepyyyyyy
[17:58:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> brain is funky
[17:59:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to blankeclair> ADHD moment
[18:00:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> i rlly should get diagnosed
[18:00:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> i'm just... procrastinating on it
[18:00:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> ba dum tss
[18:13:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to blankeclair> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1477368126680338482/Screenshot_20260301-051239.jpg?ex=69a481c9&is=69a33049&hm=4209f173800e835978b13823d0507650f7c6395e7acc0850db0e9bd47b9f0a51&
[18:19:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to notaracham> No, 124 because PHP would exit at B (the first character it can't convert to a int)
[18:31:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to originalauthority> Neat, I suspected that might be the handling because PHP, but not all languages handle 'gimme numbers only' the same.
[19:11:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <astor.pastor, replying to blankeclair> too much caffeine causes this. same with me
[22:17:58] <MacFan4000>	 I just saw the notice about somewhat automating the server usage table based on individual pages
[22:18:14] <MacFan4000>	 i have to wonder if that is the way go though
[22:18:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to MacFan4000> what are your concerns
[22:18:35] <MacFan4000>	 the individual pages have so little content, that i have to wonder if we really need them
[22:18:45] <MacFan4000>	 the table on its own may be enough
[22:18:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> hmm
[22:18:59] <MacFan4000>	 and we can add a few more columns for the missing info
[22:19:26] <MacFan4000>	 each page is not much more then the infobox + one sentance
[22:20:41] <MacFan4000>	 which is kinda why i stopped linking nonexistent server pages
[22:59:06] <MacFan4000>	 pretty sure there has been a discussion about this in mattermost, but i cant find it rn
[23:00:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> [1/2] i would agree, and it is true we dont use the pages themselves for much, but I do think there is value in having their own pages
[23:00:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> [2/2] at some point we may/may not have histories/changelogs for individual servers. or we may start using other service providers more widely where server-specific notes might be useful
[23:02:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> and a small personal preference is that i find it easier to work with separate pages and pulling data from templates than a huge manual wikitable
[23:03:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Are we using Cargo or another extensions to gather the info
[23:03:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to pixldev> dpl4
[23:09:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> As cursed as DPL syntax is at least it won't expose Meta users to a much higher risk of XSS. That's the last thing we want on Meta.
[23:10:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> i do feel like installing bucket on meta just for server usage would be overkill
[23:10:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> let's use SMW 👍
[23:10:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> shaking my wiki
[23:11:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> also using the dtech's developed flavor of data yoinking is fitting (obviously this means whenever we happen to change dtechs they must have developed their own)
[23:37:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> when's yaron koren becoming DTech