[01:29:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin, replying to posix_memalign> Would be nice to get Shellbox working for this kind of thing
[05:45:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> @thewwrnerdguy exttestwikibeta is used for extension testing right
[05:46:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Because out of habit I went to testwikibeta and I want to test bread crumbs without Lua wiki error getting in the way and if we're not testing that issue on this wiki im turning it off
[05:48:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to pixldev> all beta wikis are for testing
[05:48:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to pixldev> I'm not sure what you mean by this
[05:48:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I mean yea
[05:49:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to thewwrnerdguy> valid it's nearly 2am
[05:49:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Uh
[05:49:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to pixldev> nearly 7am for me
[05:49:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> What wiki would be used for https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/P599 testing
[05:49:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> I've been up since about 10pm
[05:49:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Since I'm testing on a wiki where it's getting in the way and want to disable the source
[05:49:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to thewwrnerdguy> girlypop
[05:50:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to pixldev> exttestwikibeta yeah
[05:50:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> you can go to Extension toggle page to disable all unnecessary extensions
[05:50:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> if you want to do more in-depth testing create your own wiki
[05:52:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> im just making sure the preferences and such for breadcrumbs works rn but yes
[05:52:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> pix fiefdom wiki
[05:53:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to pixldev> pixtest66
[05:55:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> pix ball wiki
[05:55:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to thewwrnerdguy> and once you've done testing that, you can test out renames by incrementing the number by 1
[05:55:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> True!
[05:56:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> But that's like
[05:56:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> a 4am thing at least
[07:38:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elisapoly> make a extension cat wiki
[07:51:44] <Crystalite13>	 what
[09:30:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to orduin> I suspect that the overhead of spawning a process will make the performance bad for any intensive use of the extension. Haven't profiled it though.
[09:46:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> May I ask how often CleanupEmptyCategories.php is run?
[10:03:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to raidarr> I see. It's not a huge deal if we do implement this then. I guess I just don't want to deal with the fallout of making an AI-friendly feature.
[10:04:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to karpeth> I don't think we run it automatically?
[10:40:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to karpeth> Why are you asking?
[10:43:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth, replying to posix_memalign> Maille.wiki has moved some categories around; meaning special:categories has a few listed categories that have at one point existed.
[10:43:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth, replying to rhinosf1> Maille.wiki has moved some categories around; meaning special:categories has a few listed categories that have at one point existed.
[10:50:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [1/2] Fun. If Special:Categories is a query page then it should be updated automatically once every 3 days. If not then it may need a manual run.
[10:50:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [2/2] I see that on mediawiki.org https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Alert_templates/ab is listed in Special:Categories despite not having a member an getting deleted on July 5, but I don't see anything earlier than that.
[10:55:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Oh I see `Category:Images of Crow` deleted in May but still around the special page. Looks like it needs to be run manually.
[10:56:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Seems like a safe operation. Since it's pretty much free to run I just ran it. @karpeth.
[10:58:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth, replying to posix_memalign> Thanks! now things that are just cluttering like someone spelling a name without umlauts and stuff like that are gone!
[11:20:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to posix_memalign> [1/2] this is one you can blame it on me for a permissive assumption until regulated otherwise by the community, which to me is kind of portions of the community telling other portions what they're able to do and isn't a concept that entirely sits right to me in any case. It's not like we can offer guarantees anyway. Abusive connections must be slapped and this 
[11:20:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to posix_memalign> [2/2] will inconvenience LLMs, while we can issue no guarantee LLMs also don't sneak around enough anyway with existing measures
[11:21:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> so I'm not sure if a lot of day to day difference would be made with that one txt given how much of the game just completely ignores robots.txt and everything else now
[12:50:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zipppee, replying to posix_memalign> The only real thing I could see AI ever accessing mh or any wikis for that matter is in agent mode, but the training scrapers are incredibly annoying
[12:50:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zipppee> They should stay as far away from the wiki community as possible
[12:51:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zipppee> maybe common crawl could have it but otherwise no