[16:06:36] Reason I inactive cuz I have a musical [16:06:39] Buszy [16:43:33] Awesome, it sounds fun [16:58:16] wow nice [21:20:56] [1/4] @janebuzjane Continuing the discussion in https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1288624156191096944/1516551319731703810 here since it has little to do with dev wiki. [21:20:56] [2/4] I think the board barely has any goals right now lol. There isn't even any meetings beside the previous emergency meeting for hardware expansions and the one before that which sets the annual budget. The lack of meetings implies that we are doing well, but as Raidarr said it also means a lack of strategy. [21:20:56] [3/4] On the tech side, everyone does their own thing. I think we will make more progress once CA is more available, since I can think of at least 5 different things that are pending his action/approval. Besides that, I'd love to list 5 to 10 ambitious tech goals, explain what they are and why they are not yet done, and then ask the community which ones we should prioritize (with no [21:20:57] [4/4] promises of actually doing them). This _might_ happen if https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1225560610628964423/1504035349871988767 happens. [21:43:40] the board is more or less maintenence mode as few members have much in the way of motivation and those present are mostly focused on other capacities of keeping the farm above water [21:44:14] but there is a bit of movement on the policy discussion front [21:44:34] i've a few changes in mind but i need to unprocrastinate first [21:45:06] skye still needs to sharpen her teeth to bite in hard to cut the rut [21:45:24] Yes, that sounds like a good idea! Bringing together the what, the how, the why and adding the community into the discussion (or making it more community-facing, in essence). Even if that doesn't happen, a more casual blog that at least hints at goals would show momentum. [21:45:34] and some folks you can't say much, CA and NA are pillars of the platform functioning at all [21:45:56] I am positive towards a cadenced blog, and tying incremental progression on rfcs and the like with it [21:47:32] my plate is going to be haywire leaning absent outside of spurts for the summer, and depending how things turn out may perk up by the end of the year, but I could offer some energy to kick off such a project sooner [21:47:54] I think it's a good idea too and definitely understand there's a lot to be said for motivation levels and potential burnout (so prevalent in volunteer communities /gen) [21:49:31] i definitely want to put an effort into getting people more involved, passively relying on pissing people off into volunteering isn't going to last us for long [21:50:03] am very interested in what we can do at a structural level for that as miraheze has always struggled with the cycle [21:51:01] we are 200% underutilizing our potential in offering internships [21:51:33] knowing the software dev job market, we'd definitely get interested peeps [21:52:25] ideally we could also utilize people from other areas of study but haven't thought too hard about that yet [21:52:47] i would love to unleash a gen z kid on our socials though /hj [21:53:17] (read as: it would be awesome to have a social media coordinator) [21:53:58] hard agree there [21:58:11] other than that the two main problems we have are of the "oh? you guys actually need people?" and "how do I volunteer and please dont tell me to stare at Phorge or #cvt-feed all day" variety [22:00:43] the latter was partially resolved with updating [[Contributing]] (thanks y'all!) to be more relevant [22:00:44]

[22:06:15] i still do think my earlier idea of shadowing current volunteers could work positively, rather similarly to how tech mentoring happens but with other roles [22:06:52] and tech mentoring still requires a rather high level of trust and assurance, but with other roles i'd want it to be as low as possible [22:13:37] I love the idea of internships and social media coordinators! I think that would be an excellent way to bring new blood into the fold that doesn't rely on constant device/login access [22:27:44] Interns raise a lot of legal/tax considerations if it's a formal internship rather than a volunteer that's applying for school credit. [22:28:02] Which is partly why we stalled on the last interested party [22:28:18] would need to investigate the feasibility indeed [22:29:04] honestly surprised mine didnt ask for a whole bunch more details [22:30:26] like i thought there would be a bunch more back and forth but they really just let us chill [22:30:34] I like shadowing a lot but naturally that takes quite a bit of time to do which is already the problem [22:31:14] we only need a few victims for great results [22:31:28] and it could very well be a group effort [22:31:43] open to it whenever/wherever there are steps [22:40:18] The board isn't (and shouldn't) be the driver of moving the community and project forward, that's not inherently it's purpose. [22:40:58] I'll expand on this more later, but both the idea of the blog and compiling a community/tech wishlist are absolutely the right track [22:42:15] absolutely dipped into more general volunteer territory rather than board aye [22:42:21] The bigger part, which radar demonstrates, is having the motivated individuals to follow through and carry a particular project into completion [22:43:23] the board needs to invest in medical insurance that is willing to prescribe adhd medication then /j [22:45:02] what the board can do is ensure that such efforts get appropriate amplification [22:45:43] which is currently solely in the hands of the prez (communication policy on socials posting) which is also the first policy i will tackle [22:45:56] might actually make me effective if this happened tbh, that's a long tale [22:49:26] mediawiki user and unmedicated adhd? where have i heard and seen this before....... [23:13:54] [1/4] I do think some efforts may benefit from being organized from the board level, with board backing, or just having someone from the Board be responsible for carrying out an effort [23:13:54] [2/4] like it would certainly be weird to have a community-wide recruitment spree spearheaded by Jane the CSS/JS Volunteer compared to NA the Director [23:13:55] [3/4] even if the difference is just an exercise in perception and formality, I think it helps [23:13:55] [4/4] more generally: if we, the central pillars of the community and the project, see we are a bit stuck in a ditch, do we wait around for the community to figure out how to push us out, or do we start rallying them ourselves first? [23:15:19] on a scale of "lets do everything" and "let them do it" we should "do something" [23:15:51] i am so ready to have my unsharpened teeth humbled