[00:15:56] Aaaaaand the Swallowed Whole Wiki is gone! [00:16:51] Link? [00:17:40] @pixldev https://swallowedwhole.miraheze.org/wiki/Swallowed_Whole_Wiki [00:18:51] It was closed and deleted for Content Policy violations [00:20:49] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log?logid=1113344 [00:23:41] Yep, they and a few others had 30 days to get a download before deletion, that 30 days has elapsed. [00:26:02] Two great wikis deleted. What would happen if anyone ever tried to revive them? [00:28:52] [1/2] They would not be approved/undeleted, as they don't have a way to comply with our current content policy. [00:28:52] [2/2] Folks are welcome to find hosting elsewhere for them. [00:37:15] [1/2] cc @brandon.wm : I recommend [[User:Waki285/Selective_Rollback.js]] [00:37:15] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Waki285/Selective_Rollback.js [00:37:16] [2/2] See [[User:Waki285/common.js]] for more information on configuration settings. confirm can be set to always to help prevent accidental click rollback and also to allow mass-rollback. [00:37:16] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Waki285/common.js [00:37:17]

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[2/2] [00:37:40] oh that’s not a bad idea [00:37:54] yeah I’ve only had one of the misclick rollback incidents but I’m sure there will be something in the future [00:37:56] would be good to avoid [00:38:55] I've done that numerous times especially on mobile lol [00:39:07] yeah lol, accidentally rolled back an SR edit [00:39:12] and then had Silicona revert me [00:39:18] highlight of the day 😅 [00:40:41] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1235390474429137048/image.png?ex=66343289&is=6632e109&hm=c533a4473c46ef0310b8ae06e6d2fb2e900dda6c80121722ad28d6a65620cfcf& [00:40:45] What was the wiki about? [00:40:58] ah okay ty [00:41:00] i’m all check it out [00:41:11] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1235390596806344734/image.png?ex=663432a6&is=6632e126&hm=bb3949df154513141efa735ba18a88ba64db10e3da2da1e6cb46679f1d2ec925& [00:41:44] Enable confirmation with RC and Watchlist alone, or vice versa [00:44:47] Scenes in which characters are swallowed whole by another being (according to the [archived main page](https://web.archive.org/web/20221105013759/https://swallowedwhole.miraheze.org/wiki/Swallowed_Whole_Wiki)); I assume the wiki was closed for a combination of promoting vore fetishes and copyright violations [00:53:29] It's not about copyright violations and not actually about promoting fetishes -- that's not in and of itself not a content policy violation. Rather, like the other closures, the problem was acting as a file repository piece under the pornography clause. [00:58:40] So, Anime Bath scenes wiki but more niche, and core [01:15:04] CP Violation!? [01:15:06] wtf [01:17:44] content policy [01:17:54] oh [01:17:56] not the other abbreviation [01:18:51] Yeah... that's a really unfortunate collision [01:18:52] the wiki was deleted for porn so i thought that [01:19:11] yeah [01:20:01] then you realize the community portal also has the same abbreviation [01:20:23] Abbreviations are hard [01:20:33] We've got a whole lotta acronym collision going on, yes. [01:28:37] Club Penguin Violation 😭 [01:29:01] agentisai [01:29:33] Cheese Pizza Violation 🍕 [01:30:01] Caldo de Pollo Violation [01:30:01] ah yea, the club penguin wikis, I mean to look at those too [01:31:32] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1235403268528672808/a6bOXbA_460swp.webp?ex=66343e73&is=6632ecf3&hm=e29cdee13863ad2d86662a4c78a38c23dec6d2863e0e5d438acfca2f81d01c84& [01:34:53] So I propose to change Community Portal abbreviation to COP [01:40:38] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1235405558459138119/IMG_4404.png?ex=66344095&is=6632ef15&hm=a8a71204c6b2958ea81ccc021dcaf5cc9b367732a393e0ef501f3983252fb431& [01:40:42] perfectly normal notification [01:41:27] lmao [01:47:01] Hey I got this also and was like what is going on there lol [01:53:32] nice... [01:55:43] it was a uh…..interesting thing to enter [01:56:32] corn potage violation [02:08:46] why is pedobear there [02:16:52] pertains to unfortunate abbreviations [02:17:13] though mods should delete it [03:05:05] codigo postal violacion [03:15:53] Continuity preservation violation [03:16:26] Speaking of which, @linstarguy , how's the migration going? [03:17:31] If anyone has a better name for the content policy I would not oppose a rename rfc prob [03:17:48] Content Standards? [03:18:44] Eh [03:18:49] Don't sound quite right [03:19:09] yeah I agree tbh [03:19:12] can't think of one [03:19:20] Content Mandates? [03:19:32] nah [03:20:10] The Content Commandments? [03:23:08] Contentious Content [03:26:16] someone ask the Large Language Model of the week [03:27:14] Sadly, the "Large Language Model of the Week" does not exist in the 10 seconds of research I did [03:28:33] I saw something about copilot in my YT feed [03:29:03] What about the model of the month? [03:29:17] Last month is also acceptable given it's the first [03:36:07] I trust them all zero percent with anything [03:36:28] At least anything beyond providing a good laugh [03:36:29] Oh 100% [03:36:52] In my capacity as a support volunteer and a developer salt the earth around them [03:37:06] But for shits and giggles its fun [03:37:44] the only thing I use it for is braindead simple, well publicly documented code that's just repetive and time consuming [03:39:17] Absolutely. Anything beyond that requires a discerning and well-versed eye to spot and exorcise the hallucinations. [03:40:51] I've seen some funny moment's of people on here being given AI advice by someone else and when they come here for help I just sense it [03:41:47] Needless to say complete hallucination [04:16:07] ah yes, goofy ahh wikis [04:16:15] wonder if anybody knows about CWCki [04:16:28] CWCki is a genuinely entertaining wiki to read lol [04:36:19] Wiki Guidelines [04:43:24] Anyone know how to add a protection level on a wiki? [04:45:18] CosmicAlpha said it can't be done in ManageWiki but can be done with LocalWiki.php for some technical reason that went over my head [04:45:48] then how was it done for TestWiki? [04:45:51] That's my question.... [04:45:56] possibly LocalWiki or with an extension [04:46:12] oh idk [04:46:16] do not see it in localwiki [04:47:15] argh [04:49:35] Yeah, this is set up in [LocalSettings.php](https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/blob/master/LocalSettings.php) [04:49:56] Please don't do the extended-confirmed thing, if that's what you're looking at... [04:50:22] No, heh, was taking a look at my personal wiki and just experimenting a bit [04:50:28] Been curious for a bit but never really sure [04:50:35] Ah! [04:50:36] thanks [04:55:11] @notaracham, figured it out, thanks to Kiju https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/pull/5550 [04:55:25] also kindly see DMs when time provides [05:36:12] anyone noticing a problem with visual editor on their wiki? seeing a ticket raised [05:37:40] visual editor always has problems [05:37:50] one way or another [09:05:01] VE is a good concept and makes wikis easier to edit for those who have no clue what markup is but the execution leaves a lot to be desired. My gripe with it is it breaks translation and may implode with some templates [09:27:39] ikr [09:45:05] line formatting too [09:45:16] bad internet moment [09:45:27] I do well using ust soruce editor [09:45:58] I would feel a little confused if I had to use only VE. I am used to my wikicode way of doing things [09:46:01] I think an easy, microsoft word like way to make tables, either in wikitext or all the way in HTML, is needed, yes [09:46:27] I guess for the newbies, but I learned it the complex way [09:48:03] I personally think wikitext is very easy to learn, especially if all you gonna use while editing is links, bold and italics [09:48:25] but there's this fear for "source code" combination of words [09:50:04] "WikiText Editor" [09:50:13] Seeing diffs where 3000+ bytes are added and it's just VE adding whitespace [09:51:15] I learned basic wiki text (and I know how to make tables, and add the right amount of white space and even how to get paragaths to display consisant sizes) [09:52:29] that and monspaced text. Wiki markup only gets difficult when you start adding lua, as people on the WMF test wiki will tell you [09:54:21] I'd say it, before Lua, if you need to make a table based template lol [09:56:03] What would you call the "soruce code editor" I would probly call it "WikiText Editor" or "WikiMarkup Editor" [10:05:45] When a page is protected, it says `"View source"` so naturally you'd call it a ``"Source editor" [10:06:06] [1/2] there are websites that let you visually build wikitables and then give you the wikitext to paste (like this https://www.tablesgenerator.com/mediawiki_tables) [10:06:07] [2/2] I haven't tried them a lot so I don't know how advanced they can go. though nothing beats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Table as far as documentation goes [10:07:06] https://excel2wiki.toolforge.org/ [10:07:22] I often use that one [10:07:44] Just create a table in Excel and let the toolforge do the rest [10:09:24] But it is very basic and about 15 years old or so 😄 [10:12:08] I would have it say "view wikitext" or "view wiki markup" [10:38:59] [1/2] Wikitext is to general. Too broad. I think most users would be unaware what would have been meant by it. "Text on the wiki" [10:39:00] [2/2] "Source of the text" makes more sense [10:43:53] `View Wikitext` and `edit wikitext` is an option but that's change for the sake of change. [12:04:06] [1/2] guys can someone please help me make a timeline or make one for me, i've tried to do it for like over a year and still havent been able to do it [12:04:06] [2/2] i'd rly appreciate help, i have all of the info for the timeline needed [12:07:34] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1235563277497663547 [13:02:53] what happen if we setup miraheze servers in Mexico 👀 [13:04:49] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1235577740913283202/firefox_2024-05-02_13-03-46.png?ex=6634e0f1&is=66338f71&hm=241587e581a4781ffc99ebd150f01ff64a212718dfe5f77716e448f077fcb871& [13:07:14] [1/2] pero no puedo traducir por que no tengo el permiso en Miraheze Meta [13:07:14] [2/2] y no es desfasadas es obsoletas [13:07:19] not worth the monies tbh [13:07:53] maybe there's killer rates for datacenters in mexico though, idk [13:08:40] the good thing about getting servers in mx is us we are going to get speed [13:10:06] but is it worth the cost [13:10:25] how many miraheze users are from mx [13:10:33] [1/2] You can request translator on [[Meta:RFP]] [13:10:33] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:RFP [13:10:33] [2/2] I would do es translations but I my spanish is trash (I read and understand what is being meant but I can't judge if the grammar is correct) [13:10:33]

[13:10:35] not enough that I'm aware of [13:11:11] miraheze iirc is barely well distributed across the major audience centers of the world; europe, americas, is our bone for asia in australia? I forget [13:11:45] Ru is my native, I speak En at a native level, De pretty well and I have some knowledge of Fr, Es, Lv and the generic things in the slavic group [13:12:21] [1/2] people that access meta in mexico [13:12:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1235579635052576768/Captura_de_Pantalla_2024-05-02_a_las_7.11.45_a.m..png?ex=6634e2b4&is=66339134&hm=77678832c0aaf6427f1bb77c1bbf72d03b93e609f6c87bf8fc01796b0103eb88& [13:12:29] wellp [13:13:02] but we really don't know, idk, ask a webmaster for analytics [13:13:30] Ukraine holds up pretty well actually [13:14:15] but considering mexico does not make top 10 and we don't have near that many servers or dedicated caches in the first place I think it loses on the stat argument [13:14:37] ok... [13:14:41] doesn't quite scratch top 20 in fact [13:15:09] too much americana in Miraheze [13:15:20] whoever's got cloudflare numbers probably has the best idea [13:16:15] Utah is pretty good for the Americas (NA, SA and Canada but Texas would probably be a better location imho) [13:16:28] and someone sre can give a proper debunk why we don't throw servers around for individual countries based on what we actually have available [13:16:30] theres something in Utah? [13:16:55] if it's in the us and it has speed it probably does the job tbh [13:17:27] and there's accommodations enough elsewhere [13:17:53] If you can access the wiki without 503s and not have to wait for load that means the SRE is not sleeping on the job [13:18:41] [1/2] what even is this [13:18:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1235581227680006207/image.png?ex=6634e430&is=663392b0&hm=728bec903063bcef07749c61ef623be04a6c3f7b238e5a5f126c3f3784c154b2& [13:19:04] me in the kitchen at 2 am [13:19:23] something japanese apparently [13:19:35] seems like another off brand chrome browser [13:20:29] https://www.crav-ing.com/ [13:21:51] Hello。（こんにちは） [13:22:05] who are you [13:22:22] こんにちは！ [13:23:06] I'm a miraheze user. [13:23:14] ok [13:23:22] I also manage a wiki. [13:24:02] welcome [13:24:25] welcome [13:24:35] Thank you. [13:24:59] I speak English a litte [13:25:52] california? [13:26:10] Too far from east coast [13:27:08] texas [13:45:44] [1/2] > Texas would probably be a better location imho [13:45:44] [2/2] I said that for a good reason. [13:55:01] [1/2] What name is the extension of these descriptions in the search preview in Wikipedia? [13:55:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1235590371795271783/image.png?ex=6634ecb4&is=66339b34&hm=0cbb7f5abda809a42b4792727e6621bc9437d3b8d7d98f894f0ee941b82efeb3& [13:55:47] like "Country primarily located in North America" [13:55:55] Hmm, I think Wikipeida uses CirrusSearch [13:57:43] alr.. [13:59:07] ShortDescription [13:59:14] (or WikibaseRepository) [13:59:34] [[mw:Extension:ShortDescription]] [13:59:34] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ShortDescription [13:59:35]

[14:00:02] Did not know that [14:01:48] I think it isnt [14:03:34] okay,ty [14:03:38] (at previous deleted message:) At least if you are talking about the description, it is the ShortDescription or the description stored in the wikidata [14:10:08] Will Miraheze ever have CirrusSearch? [14:10:59]