[00:10:19] Heyooo [00:14:17] Hello there! [00:16:50] How ya do? :) [00:18:49] Doing good, wiki (and some minecraft) on the brain all days. Been a chill day though so that’s nice. How bout you? [00:21:08] [1/3] Fair enough! [00:21:08] [2/3] I'm goods!! Chillin' currently, waiting for my game to install [00:21:08] [3/3] Might do some conlanging now that I think about it [00:22:42] You do conlangs? Badass. Those are interesting as hell [00:22:53] I’ve never made on but I’ve used some [00:23:16] related to the aforementioned minecraft on the brain lol [00:23:23] Hell yea!!! It's so funnnnnn [00:23:31] x3 I see [00:23:47] Haven’t Looked into it in a while [00:23:57] time has been at bit of a premium for me [00:24:00] :( [00:24:25] we have so many conlang wikis on mira though i may check them out sometimes [00:24:27] eh [00:24:32] XD [00:24:45] I've filed a conlang wiki request myself actually lmao [00:25:06] Imo you need to spend time to focus and understand a conlang on at least a basic level to truly appreciate it [00:25:11] Although it is taking a bit of tume... jdyshdhfioh [00:25:21] This is very much true [00:25:29] [1/2] Link? [00:25:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236836196412297298/EC9C1CF0-6A96-4E67-8BE5-D4C8820EAB26.png?ex=663974f8&is=66382378&hm=2c3b389015b32b49c9bd2583e05b46aa128ed1af4cba17008d896b6a00b42ab4& [00:25:55] [1/2] It hasn't gone through yet sadly... [00:25:55] [2/2] Oh wait unless I can still supply it? [00:26:01] yeah [00:26:11] Hold up [00:26:23] I hate you wikibot [00:26:32] What’s your username on wiki [00:26:33] Oh heck no that's me lmao [00:26:39] Hang on I'l link rq [00:26:43] I can look at it when I get home in a few [00:28:49] It may be done? [00:29:15] I think I've submitted it [00:30:18] Ah oki!! [00:31:00] Whats your username i can sort it our for ya [00:31:12] Ultraflare [00:31:14] :3 [00:34:42] Brb [00:35:00] [1/2] Hehe [00:35:01] [2/2] Take your time UuU [00:46:44] I’d personally give it the raccon finger thumbs up but I’m gonna quickly converse with other Wiki Creator bout it :pupCoffeeMH: [00:47:03] [1/2] Hehe [00:47:03] [2/2] Oki doki! [00:47:15] to the super secret club [00:53:22] LET'S GOOO [01:24:34] It's been approved [01:28:17] [1/10] [01:28:17] [2/10] Is there any way I can figure out the URLs for the following wikis? Since there are some things that I wanted to check for research: [01:28:18] [3/10] althistorywiki [01:28:18] [4/10] celebswiki [01:28:18] [5/10] cmgwiki [01:28:19] [6/10] igrovyesistemywiki [01:28:19] [7/10] naasgamelandwiki [01:28:19] [8/10] sesupportwiki [01:28:20] [9/10] scratchpadwiki [01:28:20] [10/10] simulatorwiki [01:28:59] wikiname.miraheze.org [01:29:04] That's generally the easiest [01:29:18] Yeah, but they don't work for some of them. [01:29:19] Usually the link is whatever is before "wiki" plus .miraheze.org [01:29:31] eg. althistory.miraheze.org [01:29:34] which ones? [01:30:44] The related wikis may have been deleted [01:30:57] ^ but am happy to confirm which ones [01:31:34] [1/8] althistorywiki = Wiki not found [01:31:35] [2/8] celebswiki = Wiki not found [01:31:35] [3/8] cmgwiki = Wiki not found [01:31:35] [4/8] igrovyesistemywiki = Wiki not found [01:31:36] [5/8] naasgamelandwiki = Wiki not found [01:31:36] [6/8] sesupportwiki = Wiki not found [01:31:36] [7/8] scratchpadwiki = Wiki not found [01:31:37] [8/8] simulatorwiki = Wiki not found [01:32:26] thanks @jph2 :) [01:32:38] Make sure you remove "wiki" before appending ".miraheze.org" [01:33:22] Oh. [01:33:49] [1/9] From what I can see: [01:33:49] [2/9] * `althistorywiki` exists, but private/closed/inactive [01:33:50] [3/9] * `celebswiki` doesn't exist [01:33:50] [4/9] * `cmgwiki` exists, but private, DPE [01:33:50] [5/9] * `igrovyesistemywiki` exists, but inactive [01:33:51] [6/9] * `naasgamelandwiki` exists, but private, inactive [01:33:51] [7/9] * `sesupportwiki` exists, DPE [01:33:51] [8/9] * `scratchpadwiki` exists [01:33:52] [9/9] * `simulatorwiki` doesn't exist [01:33:53] @c.syde65 [01:34:00] DPE = Dormancy Policy exemption [01:34:14] "althistory" says Wiki deleted when i try to visit it [01:34:56] I was trying to figure out what some of the custom permissions of some of the wikis did. [01:35:00] May be deleted but the db exists and can be restored [01:35:01] Same for "naasgamelandwiki" [01:35:03] Oh? [01:35:11] which one [01:35:24] db exists, can be restored [01:36:03] While that is true, wikis that display a "Wiki deleted" screen are not usually referred to as simply "inactive" [01:36:20] True, I'm unsure why that's the case [01:36:26] But it exists [01:42:24] [1/3] ceo `(ceo)` = not sure if a permission exists with this name, or if it is just a restriction type. [01:42:24] [2/3] co `(co)` = not sure if a permission exists with this name, or if it is just a restriction type. [01:42:25] [3/3] edit-create `(edit-create)` [01:42:55] CEO sounds more like a user group then a right [01:43:44] WikiBiz, anyone? [02:05:59] Yeah, but there 'might' have been a permission to go with it. [02:06:38] Any custom rights and such would be in the git history [02:06:48] Check Phorge as well for the database name [02:09:20] I found the 'edit-create' permission. [03:02:42] Pix, let's continue in here about the CL and board. to me as outsider, it might be good to have at least 2 CL to match the 2 SRE folks. Don't want the board too dominated with SRE, that will end up as a bubble and lose focus easily. [03:03:38] We just don't have anyone else for board really [03:03:53] Laster is a software engineer, reception is SRE yet is community director... [03:04:09] Before he left Agent said if possible he would love to leave infra behind and focus on cmmunity [03:04:42] it's just how it is tbh [03:05:41] If you know anyone to nominate next year for board be my guest [03:06:10] I will continue observing and might refer folks that seem capable, that way someone with actual reputation can nominate [03:06:27] I think the board makeup is fairly well defined. And, in any case, it's in the election period for this year. [03:06:59] Personally I think getting tech people takes precedent over board [03:07:14] if not just to allow the twin hatters to focus on it [03:39:04] huh, #miraheze on IRC was registered 2 years, 50 weeks and 1 days ago [03:44:44] is there a way to link to a creation of a page without using ?action=edit ? [03:44:53] im having issues getting the url to encode properly [03:48:21] Hm, maybe an extension? [03:48:34] I think there's one but it's almost midnight [03:48:44] (good night) [03:49:00] gn pix [03:49:05] gnight! [03:49:53] this is such a niche usecase but on our wiki we have patch notes that are put onto subpages in the format `Patch Notes/1 January 1970` . i used magicwords to have a group sidebar link to 'todays' patch note page, but theres no way to force it into the editor as far as i can e [03:50:22] so `Patch Notes/{{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}` works but not `Patch Notes/{{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}?action=edit` or any variation i can see, but this is specifically within group sidebars [03:50:22] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:CURRENTDAY [03:50:28] which have interesting url syntax [05:13:23] Possibly with Lua [05:13:33] Idk if it exists in wikitext [05:13:51] Probably does but I don't like or understand wikitext [05:31:24] presume you have tried MediaWiki:Newarticletext? [05:32:43] I have removed the `(ceo)`, `(co)`, `(editor)`, `(sysmag)`, and `(template)` permissions from my usergroup permissions template, due to the lack of evidence that such permissions have ever existed on any Miraheze wikis under those names. [05:45:57] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236916846674972745/voice-message.ogg?ex=6639c015&is=66386e95&hm=f2b2f9d57d34b296de34492c628513fabe4b3c298e2131cf12c5d2854760542d& [05:46:02] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236916867319205939/voice-message.ogg?ex=6639c019&is=66386e99&hm=d7a2256c6082de895503b0d17e1ab699d2863a6964bb2ad9d81be5cc88b171ba& [05:46:16] Yupsy [06:08:37] Is there a FAQ page I could find anywhere? [07:02:57] does anyone know the best resolution for the wiki background image? [07:06:39] I prefer high res, upscaled images, but those can make a wiki slow to load on mobile [07:08:17] [1/2] is there any way to prevent this happening [07:08:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236937566477881355/image.png?ex=6639d361&is=663881e1&hm=2f4c2e0ea56fd21297237b88a5f89fae1b310b8e6098aefb9b768f43f0e8103f& [07:08:24] its at 1440p already [07:11:19] Unusre [07:16:08] uploading a larger file seems to have fixed it [09:26:44] For a mass rename of some pages, we would open an issue on Phorge, right? Or is there a special page for this? [09:42:56] thorbjorn: phorge [09:43:42] With a list in the following format ideally [09:43:51] Old name|New name [09:48:31] If you mean the background, you could use CSS to scale fullscreen [09:48:57] If the contents inside then I have no idea cuz the skin isn't designed responsive [10:35:00] RhinosF1: Great, thanks. Well try to collect all need renames in one go. We need to rename many talk pages since the wiki expects them in a different place as before. [10:57:21] thorbjorn: are they all a pattern? [10:58:04] Like is the namespace just a different name slightly [11:12:37] RhinosF1: Yes. For example we have "Dev talk:Animations" and it needs to be renamed to "Talk:Development:Animations". This namespace affects 29 pages, and there's other namespaces that are similarly affected. [11:18:54] talk pages move along w/ "main" pages, were they moved separately? [11:19:11] *by default [11:21:01] thorbjorn: is this cause the custom namespace was deleted? [11:21:13] Talk:Development is unusual [11:21:34] Most wikis us NS_talk [11:21:38] theoneandonlylegroom: I don't know, we used the rename PHP script and it did not move the talk pages, apparently. [11:22:48] But it's not just that. There's also a different naming style. We have Archive_talk (64 pages), Classic_talk (23 pages), Revolt_talk (4 pages) and they all need to be renamed to "Talk:..." now. [11:24:07] I don't know why our naming style was different, but our wiki is pretty old (started 2005). [11:29:26] Strangely, it seems "Talk:" is not used consistently on Miraheze. For example the talk page for "Category:Quest" is "Category_talk:Quest" rather than "Talk:Category:Quest". [11:34:50] Each namespace has its own dedicated talk namespace (i.e. "Template talk" instead of "Talk:Template:") [11:36:27] thorbjorn: Category_talk:Quest would be the mediawiki standard [11:36:36] Not Talk:Category:Quest [11:37:40] Then why is this Talk page link here broken? https://wiki.themanaworld.org/wiki/Classic:Armor_Sets It wants a "Talk:Classic:Armor_Sets", but we have a "Classic talk:Armor Sets". [11:38:02] Do we need to declare the namespace somewhere? [11:38:35] (though we may rather want to remove some of those namespaces, not sure) [11:38:46] You do yes [11:38:48] Yes; if you've already done so, it may take some time for changes to apply [11:38:52] https://wiki.themanaworld.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/namespaces [11:39:01] I don't see Classic listed [11:39:04] So it won't work [11:39:12] It thinks it's in the main namespace [12:19:59] <_______________________________d> im going to protect every single possible alteration of "level fun" and "partygoers" so nobody can recreate them [12:20:25] <_______________________________d> anyone have an idea for entity 67 that isn't a partygoer, imma need to fix the page [12:22:55] <_______________________________d> i have a slight problem [12:23:19] <_______________________________d> i made a wiki about the backrooms and most of the people who join are kids writing articles in broken english and completely ignoring the rules [12:23:20] <_______________________________d> :/ [12:24:19] <_______________________________d> (admittedly i do get some legendary talk page messages) [13:19:45] internet brainrot ftw [13:40:15] Miraheze is unfortunately slow with the replies, even when a very bad wiki is involved [13:40:30] On Fandom, the same wiki was closed in 3 hours (after sending a Zendesk ticket) [13:40:52] Now I know you're all volunteers but wiki reports could be managed better 😦 [13:54:34] Well, we could if we had more volunteers 🙂 [13:57:30] Unfortunately I don't have enough knowledge in English 😦 [14:00:29] I’m going off of the recent messages but you seem to have enough competency in English to pass. Plus, you could help people who speak your native language. 😄 [14:01:59] [1/2] atleast going off this article, you’re fairly competent [14:01:59] [2/2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Competence_is_required [14:13:32] Thanks [14:14:05] I think I can continue my role as `translator` but I don't think I could ever be a steward [14:29:20] Don't have to be. Just giving support to someone else about something you know, is already helpful. [14:34:11] Okay 😊 [14:35:20] And asking guidance on how to help others ... https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1225560610628964423 [14:35:37] There are no stupid questions [14:42:53] Thanks [15:02:28] i havent - what is that exactly? [15:34:01] [1/3] That will control the space above the edit box for a new page. [15:34:02] [2/3] https://totaltennis.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Newarticletext [15:34:02] [3/3] Mine is technically "MediaWiki:Editpage-head-copy-warn" just as I don't need seperate copywarnings at the moment, but it's useful if you'd like to link to help pages or any other type of warnings. [15:46:43] Miraheze only has so many Stewards and global sysops [16:16:03] RhinosF1: I only see buttons to add a namespace, so I guess it's not as easy to remove one? [16:16:31] thorbjorn: you should be able to delete one [16:16:45] There should be a delete button when you're in a namespaces submenu [16:16:47] Ok, then I guess it's just the existing ones you can't delete. [16:17:16] @bluemoon0332 [16:18:42] Yeah I see the Delete tab now. [16:19:04] Though it's disabled. [16:23:25] We hit 6,000 members, I just noticed [16:25:52] can i break these extremely long paragraphs into smaller translation units https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Translations:FAQ/140/en [16:27:59] @theoneandonlylegroom @felenov any thoughts from another translator? [16:31:01] idk [16:32:10] This TU was machine xlated to Ru, I went and fixed it. This is prob as small as it can get in original context [16:34:38] im ngl seeing entire essays in single units is kinda discouraging, maybe i could divide it up and provide some context in their documentations [16:35:21] i've seen wmf wikis adopting this approach which is why i ask [16:36:33] well not anymore it seems 5999 right now 😛 [16:39:27] 1 sec [16:40:17] You are xlating to Hindi, correct? [16:41:02] yep [16:42:27] The grammar there works different to what I am used to. I got an idea. [16:43:41] Hey, does anyone know how to set some stuff fro templates? [16:43:58] as long as it doesn't cut through sentences i can make it work [16:44:45] `| image = {{#if:{{{photo|}}}|[[File:{{{photo|}}}]]}}` does anyone know how to set the image size to 315 px in this template? [16:44:45] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23if:Template:%7b%7b%7bphoto https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:%7b%7b%7bphotohttps://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:%7b%7b%7bphoto [16:45:39] `| image = {{#if:{{{photo|}}}|[[File:{{{photo|}}}|315px]]}}` should work [16:45:39]