[00:00:29] That may not be approved because it is a duplicate of the global extension DiscordNotifications. I am considering allowing DiscordRCFeed though as it allows log entries but we wouldn't use it for Global feed due to my version having the CVT feature but it could be interesting to support for certain feeds... [00:02:08] Letting people add their own might be worth the time. Webhooks are stupid simple to get working but it will be another thing that would need to be maintained. [00:02:29] It already can in ManageWiki you can add webhooks for Discord [00:02:35] until just now, I had thought DiscordNotifications was abandoned [00:02:49] I maintain a version of it. [00:02:56] yes, I see that [00:04:11] My version was originally just to support a proxy since we need proxy due to Discord not supporting IPv6 only, but eventually I fully maintained it even adding support for CVT feed (#cvt-feed-experimental) [00:04:35] idk if yours does the same as the dev wiki gadget, however Jayden [Runescape] intentionally wrote a replacement to do exactly it + yugipedia requested features [00:04:56] There is a dev wiki gadget? [00:05:18] https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/DiscordIntegrator [00:05:51] that's most popular, followed by https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/DiscordChat [00:06:32] Oh no it doesn't do that but I think one of my extensions has some sort of support for it or maybe that was something I forgot to commit now that I think of it... [00:07:05] that's why people are pestering for it yet i'm not going to spend energy to make it work when Jayden already has working replacement [00:07:42] I operate on the basis, if extension exists as working replacement and is maintained; I don't bother migrating [00:07:44] I am gonna go for a bit [00:07:47] ok [00:17:19] stalker [01:01:42] hey btw @cosmicalpha is "Data Engineer" still a thing that exists? From the Volunteering Oppertunity page [01:02:16] I don't think it does anymore [01:03:06] I have never heard it's name outside that page so yea [01:21:38] the met gala is happening [01:21:59] so i’m going to make a fictional one for the fictional celebrities in my wiki project ;-; [01:25:59] It existed until yesterday lol [01:36:34] 💤 3:36am again [01:36:58] G'night [01:37:27] yeesh [01:38:35] Sleep is over-rated anyway [01:39:54] In Denmark apparently [01:45:29] If @rodejong ever drops off the face of the earth I'm placing my bet on his wife resetting all his Miraheze and Discord password's after he stayed up too ~~late~~ early [01:47:17] i stay up until 6 am [01:47:45] Me too or sometimes I don't sleep which is horrible tbh. [01:49:22] Likely yes [03:01:32] I used to stay up like that until it started taking a toll on my mental health and I worked on getting my sleep back in order [03:01:52] Because the absolute exhaustion while being unable to sleep that I'd always feel was horrible [03:08:40] 💤 [03:18:49] this is such an amazing statement. thank you. [03:18:58] np [03:40:57] hi @.labster [03:41:44] ayo [03:42:40] welcome back labster [03:44:37] [1/4] I had to create an Interwiki Administrator usergroup with a Cyrillic Small Letter Byelorussian-Ukrainian I, since the actual name for the Interwiki Administrator usergroup is still blacklisted, despite me opening a Phabricator request a while ago. [03:44:38] [2/4] [03:44:38] [3/4] [03:44:38] [4/4] I'm just keeping the usergroup until the issue is resolved and I can recreate the usergroup under the actual name. [03:48:46] Rather annoyed though. Since the last thing I wanted was having to create a placeholder group. [03:50:51] are the actions of interwiki limited to global sysop or stewards? [03:50:59] might be why the blacklist [03:50:59] no [03:51:03] it's all local [03:51:21] that's odd [03:51:25] The usergroup is still blacklisted though. [03:51:34] did you screw up your configs via managewiki? [03:51:41] I didn't. [03:52:07] It must be an issue on Miraheze in general. [03:52:16] We forgot to unblacklist it [03:52:26] Can it be unblacklisted? [03:52:26] When we unrestricted it [03:52:36] Yes but I can't right now [03:52:37] Since it's really annoying that it is still blacklisted. [04:03:06] oh labster's back [04:04:06] what are we unblacklisting [04:04:36] The `interwiki-admin` usergroup. [04:04:56] is that something that can be done on Meta [04:05:25] hmmmm [04:06:32] no [04:06:57] https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/pull/5554 [04:07:02] that can be merged I believe [04:07:18] It needs to be done on GitHub, I believe. [04:07:30] the above should be the PR [04:08:02] PR? [04:08:09] Oh. [04:08:12] Pull request. [04:08:35] oh whoops I just committed it myself [04:08:39] eep [04:09:34] Sorry [04:10:01] Anyway once puppet runs and next time ManageWiki cache resets it will be allowed. [04:11:20] heh all good, it happens [04:11:33] I did that twice today lol [04:11:47] Once with MacFan4000 when renaming IRC channels and now this. [04:12:11] I need to check PRs before committing lol [04:14:38] lol most important thing is it's fixed [04:32:33] <.labster, replying to elliethepwincess> I’ve been back for a few days [04:32:56] Wait really? [04:33:09] lol I missed that [04:36:19] oh? [04:36:30] you should probably #verify as well lol [04:40:52] rip A new field for RequestWiki‬ [04:47:53] boop [04:48:00] wanted to ask [04:48:33] is there any inbuilt way to recolor the timeless skin besides css'ing the colors? [04:48:37] <.labster> I verified a while back. [04:49:24] <.labster> Actually did it not work or something? [04:49:49] nope [04:49:52] hmmm [04:49:58] now it does [04:50:03] lol I was checking your roles and I accidentally clicked ban I'm glad it gives confirmation... [04:50:18] <.labster> I mean I wouldn't be that upset. [04:50:26] lmao [04:50:59] <.labster> I verified in #verify this time. Last time I did /auth, which didn't work? Possibly that? [04:51:21] `/auth` is broken yeah [04:51:23] `/auth` is WikiAuthBot we use Wiki-Bot for it now [04:51:37] can we kick WAB [04:51:45] Lol was just gonna say that [04:51:49] donezo [04:52:00] (waiting for conf. heh) [04:52:06] rip wikiauthbot [04:52:13] we don't need it and it doesn't do anything [04:52:47] Why is it like everyone is reading my thoughts today I do PRs thst are already done, I talk about role changes already thought about and I think about kicking a bot right before you say it. [04:53:02] lmaoo [04:53:07] yeah I'll kick it [04:53:27] Go ahead [04:53:35] bye @WikiAuthBot we sorta missed you but not really [04:53:46] 🫡 [04:54:04] wait what's @DISBOARD for [04:55:15] ah [04:55:16] ^ [04:55:31] It may be useless also tbh [04:55:34] [1/2] i love the 1 review [04:55:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1237266554249543723/image.png?ex=663b05c5&is=6639b445&hm=f6e92c0998040db22a3ea661a0626aa1bb5c2f8ba6d96fb3ad020c8cb5f3772e& [04:55:43] lol [04:56:46] the little [05:03:25] sadly no [05:04:05] I was able to recreate the usergroup. However, it still appears to be blacklisted from the usergroups that I can make assignable. [05:04:30] lol [05:07:07] Oh. Seems to be fixed now. [05:16:19] that was discussed per quote bot and got off topic... [05:17:18] [1/3] hm [05:17:18] [2/3] it's not that difficult to css it, just that there are a lot of fringe cases [05:17:19] [3/3] colors are hardcoded in a thousand places most of which are nieche [05:19:32] [1/3] my attempt so far [05:19:32] [2/3] articles look okay sparing the black icons, but some namespaces still have default white elements shining through [05:19:32] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1237272584907657306/Screenshot_at_2024-05-07_08-18-26.png?ex=663b0b63&is=6639b9e3&hm=2aa665796588b6afbd82abfbf04d28fb92bac4d643ff94c28908d9c7204e1ea3& [05:19:45] I am the great destroyer [05:19:47] Taker of life [05:30:11] same [05:31:23] [1/2] well, everything has to be changed if you want to keep elements in tact [05:31:23] [2/2] as for icons, I had to upload different icons and replace them in CSS - I took them from indie Zelda Wiki which uses Timeless as mobile mode skin, their wiki is dark blue so they had to do all same stuff [05:32:44] actually thinking now if they existed Wikimedia Commons already, or they could be uploaded on Miraheze Commons (which most likely gonna be shutdown) or somewhere else to share fpr all MH wikis [05:33:31] it's gonna be only for static links too, so maybe even Meta will work for that (because it's never going to be closed) [06:52:56] What do you mean shut down? [06:53:11] Did I miss something? [06:53:14] lol [06:57:51] ah well [06:58:13] several people been musing that Miraheze Commons is useless and is a hindrance, idk [06:59:06] it has like couple of files which don't appear in WM Commons, but it also way behind by standards/licensing, things like tha [07:00:45] users more likely to take from WM for its size, variety and no worry for legal things [07:19:06] MH Commons is a mess [07:59:33] And thanks!! 😄 [08:07:07] Yeah, we have to decide if we keep it or not [08:12:54] does it add benefit [08:14:14] Commons would need a complete overhaul, need a group of dedicated users with license knowhow and likely need to be cleaned out [08:14:40] It would for some wiki's, but most upload locally anyway [08:15:28] We could use Commons as upload request. [08:17:36] It does for some wiki's who work together. [08:17:44] But that is only a few [08:19:10] we have some wikis who have their own shared commons [08:19:12] that works [08:19:25] but i don't think anyone uses mh commons [08:20:08] mh commons was primarily used by wikipedia clones [08:20:15] mh commons is inactive except for like 1 or 2 people lol [08:20:23] beyond very obscure cases I'm not sure what it's on about anymore [08:20:39] Yeah, I would feel sad for them [08:21:07] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [08:21:23] i honestly don't feel like commons really serves a purpose [08:21:29] wouldn't rug pull em now but if it comes down to 1-2 people with weak or nonexistent basis then... [08:21:40] I could make a RfC, to see what the mood is about. [08:21:49] but I recall a few things might have been based on it and that some wikis use it [08:21:56] Make a decent explanation [08:22:01] nothing irreplaceable [08:23:17] Indeed [08:25:08] [1/2] after all, users want uploaders that don't give a s*it about indifferent to copyright [08:25:09] [2/2] I don't think Wikimedia Commons allowed fair use, so I don't think it would be popular for such users, but it's hard to think how we could leverage MH Commons in this regard [08:25:44] Fair Use is prohibited indeed [08:26:34] And cc-by-nc, cc-by-nd and cc-by-nc-nd are not allowed either [08:30:43] 'fair use' is such a fuzzy domain tbh, and the line is generally drawn in costly lawsuit unless you're pretty liberal taking things out upon credible report [09:15:30] Why ? [09:23:54] So I’m getting this problem from always seeing “view source” even with a verified email, can someone help me with this? [09:30:18] Are you logged in and do you have permission to modify pages ? [09:43:32] Yes [09:43:38] I’m a admin [09:45:19] [1/2] Commons Wikimedia states that images uploaded there must be able to be used for commercial purposes. [09:45:20] [2/2] So any more restrictive licenses are not allowed there. [09:46:05] [1/2] spme files used on Meta are uploaded on Commons, but those can easily reuploaded [09:46:05] [2/2] one of my wiki use 1 image as social media link icon, and that's all I guess [09:46:48] little bits like this should be thoroughly cleared out before commons is affected including if a removal happens, though it could be locked from new content much sooner [09:47:31] I would welcome a lock down for new images [09:47:45] I'd make a thread for this, sounds like VisualEditor is not functioning properly and it needs a visit to the namespaces tab of managewiki to make sure things are in order, or something off in the settings menu [09:47:51] limited time to go over this myself for the moment alas [09:48:18] Raidarr please check the osvaldatore wiki report. Thanks [09:48:41] They will come to that asap [09:48:57] Okay 👍 [09:49:04] you sure you didn't mess up user permissions? [09:49:27] I’ll look in my preferences [09:56:04] [1/2] I am somewhat behind on reports however my response right now is the same that I've mentioned here (https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/443926951292567562/1236601616031940618) - screencapped; [09:56:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1237342179446362113/image.png?ex=663b4c34&is=6639fab4&hm=10be4a73d57a80986ede46c7c1fe977e034ff5372fab3a31a8d63a42fd34b9d9& [09:56:28] This ambiguity is what has lead me to prioritize by recency rather than emergency as would typically be the case with credible doxxing reports [09:56:54] forgot to reply initially [09:57:24] the most likely outcome is a message advising removal of overly sensitive details regardless of their origin even if they are from otherwise public sources [10:00:14] Turns out something WAS off in my preferences thank! [10:00:38] this isn't what I meant actually lol, but glad it sorted out [10:04:29] Okay, thanks. I think they should remove all dates and places of birth, at least [10:05:18] I'm inclined to agree and fortunately the next few days I will be able to make an approach to that effect [10:06:09] Perfect, thanks again [10:16:56] I'd support making commons read only [10:17:26] hey PixDeVl [12:35:17]