[04:55:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to rodejong> Looks like others got to it, but thereare certain circumstances where we will pre-ban alts of known banned users, gentle reminder that this kind of ask on admin/mod policy should be deferred to admins/mods now that we've got a healthy number of volunteers serving. 🙂
[04:57:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <brandon.wm> I don't think a pre-emptive ban is necessary here, as my 2c
[04:58:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <brandon.wm> If they join and are confirmed to be an alt, I'd not be opposed to taking action then, but I don't see a strong need if they haven't joined, and especially if the users aren't confirmed to be the same
[05:00:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> I feel the same way as Brandon here, as long as it's not being a threat yet then not much we can do
[05:16:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Generally I'd be inclined to agree, but I don't look favorably upon malicious impersonation and attempting to usurp control of someone else's project under false pretenses.
[08:07:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reception123> I would personally favour a ban if they join and their description literally says "death to Miraheze"
[10:05:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> Long live Miraheze
[10:05:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> And Orain
[10:10:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> [1/2] I know it's crazy, but I do personally know about many, many game wikis, including their history. Consider me like a walking encyclopedia or index of gaming wikis.
[10:10:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> [2/2] The wiki did exist, but under the game's former name: http://web.archive.org/web/20221108091211/https://monolith.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
[10:13:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> Still, doesn't really excuse him saying "death to miraheze" and just insulting wiki editors.
[10:15:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to justleafy2003> Thanks
[10:18:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> [1/3] Np
[10:18:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> [2/3] More evidence if u want
[10:18:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1243146115617132576/Screenshot_20240523_131823_Chrome.jpg?ex=6650698a&is=664f180a&hm=08ed6581e2d23048fe1b2615463dab78adea5632568757a90400cec90fb351d8&
[10:19:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> Yeah I circled horribly cuz mobile lol
[10:32:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> folks using dpl - can you confirm that `ordermethod=title` ignores `{{DEFAULTSORT:}}`?
[10:32:18] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/DEFAULTSORT:Template: 
[14:22:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu> [1/2] @brandon.wm talk page protected indefinitely?
[14:22:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1243207518432530563/Screenshot_2024-05-23-23-21-02-114_com.android.chrome-edit.jpg?ex=6650a2ba&is=664f513a&hm=01daaec6f46e8cb422e24a0bbc7c5f0d51f263f85bc5dab568f0d09f45cee1b7&
[14:23:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu> (note* 無期限 means indefinite)
[14:25:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <brandon.wm> that should be one month
[14:25:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <brandon.wm> oops
[14:41:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kanarianomori> Sorry
[15:28:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reception123> ck
[16:43:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> [1/2] I believe ive made a mistake
[16:43:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1243242884895866973/screen-20240523-113329.mp4?ex=6650c3aa&is=664f722a&hm=1eff9553681960895750b33432b255a0c35508e55a9304788099d11422a6b033&
[16:43:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> How do I fix this?
[16:56:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov> @brandon.wm whenever you got the time, please add something to [[MediaWiki:Citizen-footer-desc]] and [[MediaWiki:Citizen-footer-tagline]] on meta
[16:56:43] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Citizen-footer-desc https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Citizen-footer-tagline
[16:56:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> [1/2] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Citizen-footer-desc>
[16:56:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> [2/2] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Citizen-footer-tagline>
[17:04:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> ?
[17:05:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> Sorry I have no idea what's going on
[17:06:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov> footer-desc probably can have `Miraheze Meta is the central collaboration hub for the Miraheze wiki farm which hosts $numberofwikis wikis` in it and footer-tagline can probably have MediaWiki:Lastmodifiedatby
[17:08:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to foxstep_the_cat> [1/2] you tried to link t
[17:08:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to foxstep_the_cat> [2/2] another wiki?
[17:11:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> No, I saw that all the other wikis had some sort of thing going on
[17:11:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> [[mh:(database)|Wiki Name]] type thing
[17:11:48] <wm-bot>	 https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/(database)
[17:12:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> I thought linking my wiki when there were no other linked wikis would look weird
[17:15:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> I'll probably just link it for now
[17:41:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to foxstep_the_cat> database name is subdomain+wiki, and end page in your vid has 2 wiki :ThinkerMH:
[17:55:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> oh i fixed it for u but it looks like u unfixed it
[17:56:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> there its fixed now dont touch it anymore lol
[18:00:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov> MediaWiki logs everything so even if something gets broken it's pretty easy to restore to a working state
[18:48:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1243274447763275826/Screenshot_20240523-131524.png?ex=6650e10f&is=664f8f8f&hm=d222924789e986ae0a567d860d50666e83480f1cae554cd3e49320c4789d4722&
[18:50:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat, replying to canyada> Oh nvm, thx for fixing it!
[19:46:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tunityguy, replying to m3w> antiwikism? lol
[20:34:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jph2, replying to canyada> I was wondering what was going on there as I cycled back through the changes. I was getting dizzy. lol
[20:42:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat, replying to m3w> what did the idea of wikis do to bro
[20:43:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awing_ding> Maybe he has a strange phobia
[20:45:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> wikiphobia
[20:46:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awing_ding> [1/2] The wiki where all the pages are just 
[20:46:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awing_ding> [2/2] > AHHHHHHHHHHHH
[20:47:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> Real
[20:47:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> I honestly never got the whole "wiki hate" thing. I've seen a few vids on my yt feed that's just people saying that wikis are bad or something
[20:48:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> eh
[20:49:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to foxstep_the_cat> As a whole?
[20:52:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> whar
[20:52:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Wikis as a concept?
[20:52:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> @brandon.wm re "protect user profile page" - there's extension UserPageEditProtection which protects user pages from everyone but admins
[20:53:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> automatically
[20:55:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] test
[20:55:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] [[dev:Category:Infobox templates]]
[20:55:45] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/dev:Category:Infobox_templates
[20:55:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Infobox_templates>
[20:55:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> nice
[21:22:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gummiel> Saying "Wiki's are bad" is like saying "books are bad", that is just WAY too broad and generalizing
[21:22:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to gummiel> yea
[21:22:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> theres probably more who say the latter though
[21:37:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <brandon.wm, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> hm, will bring it up with sysop
[22:37:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <m3w, replying to foxstep_the_cat> think of it as a troll and move on, who honestly cares about a troll
[22:43:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat, replying to m3w> Ok, I was just wondering cuz he was so aggressive lol
[22:44:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <m3w> don't take it personally, just get rid of such people and move on
[23:16:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <leldy22> hello
[23:17:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to leldy22> ola
[23:19:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> alo
[23:25:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <leldy22> pleasure to be here, folks
[23:30:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> glad to have ya
[23:31:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elliethepwincess> ello