[00:00:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to tali64> for once yes I intended that
[00:01:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [1/5] The ELI5 version:
[00:01:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [2/5] * If you go to the edit/view source version of a template somewhere, it'll show you the code behind it
[00:01:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [3/5] * If you copy and paste that code into a page of the same name on your wiki (e.g. copying the code for Template:Done and putting it on a page on your wiki called Template:Done), it now exists on your wiki too and might work
[00:01:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [4/5] * Templates often need other templates or modules to do their fancy stuff correctly, so you may see errors if just manually copying/pasting code.
[00:01:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [5/5]  * Wikipedia has a notoriously bad trail of dependencies on many templates
[00:04:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Importing from Wikipedia is only recommended if you’re a fan of sleepless nights
[00:58:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tali64> Friendly reminder that this still exists: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Community_portal#Request_for_Feedback:_Regulating_page_creation_on_Meta
[01:13:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu> [1/2] discord ai's summary is quite good
[01:13:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1249531939489058947/image.png?ex=6667a4cd&is=6666534d&hm=0778fb9da8051990598af6be6ceb3cdd5ef65fd945d60606a2a70a9bb2375fd8&
[01:22:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <brandon.wm, replying to tali64> imo some things are best left uncodified
[01:25:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose, replying to suzuneu> Yea
[07:54:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kami_dere, replying to koreirose> You think
[08:41:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose, replying to kami_dere> I do indeed
[11:28:10] <thorbjorn>	 Does anybody recognize the localization banner we're using, and how to configure it correctly? See for example https://wiki.themanaworld.org/wiki/Es:Monsters
[11:28:43] <thorbjorn>	 Current issue: it does not recognize it as a Spanish version, and instead thinks "Es:Monsters" is the title of the English page, linking to "Es:Es:Monsters" for the Spanish version.
[11:29:38] <thorbjorn>	 It only works correctly on the English version of the page (https://wiki.themanaworld.org/wiki/Monsters).
[11:30:43] <thorbjorn>	 Is this related to "Enable per page language ($wgPageLanguageUseDB)" setting? We currently have that disabled on Miraheze.
[11:32:06] <thorbjorn>	 (I've enabled it now and purged, but don't see any effect)
[11:48:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> [1/2] because Es: (and any other language) arent namespaces, so the {{PAGENAME}} considers everything before the colon part of the page name too
[11:48:47] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:PAGENAME 
[11:48:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> [2/2] u could enable parserfunctions' string functions ($wgPFEnableStringFunctions) and do `{{#explode:{{PAGENAME}}|:|-1}}` instead of PAGENAME (which will split "Es:Monsters" at the colon, and get the last part "Monsters")
[11:48:47] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23explode:Template:%7b%7bPAGENAME 
[12:18:11] <thorbjorn>	 canyada: Ah, thanks! I see it's even documented in the used template that it was relying on namespaces being defined (https://wiki.themanaworld.org/wiki/Template:I18n/doc).
[12:18:56] <thorbjorn>	 I wonder a little what would be better, to define the namespaces or to use "explode".
[12:19:12] <thorbjorn>	 Also there is no way to set a variable, is there? Cause the are a lot of occurrences of PAGENAME.
[12:19:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> i sort of wonder if it would be better to have a dedicated translation extension like [[mw:Extension:Translate]]
[12:19:49] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Translate
[12:19:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Translate>
[12:22:05] <thorbjorn>	 Hmm, yeah that definitely looks much better.
[12:34:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> but translation mark up ... is something ...
[12:35:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I guess Spanish pages versions are full on separate pages?
[12:36:04] <thorbjorn>	 Ah, you mean all these "<!--T:49-->", are those really necessary with this extension?
[12:36:32] <thorbjorn>	 Currently our wiki indeed just uses full on separate pages for translated versions.
[12:42:51] <thorbjorn>	 I've just fixed our links using the "explode" method suggested by canyada for now. Thanks a lot!
[12:43:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/3] Wikipedia and Fandom wikis are all just separate wikis sharing same domains and interwiki links
[12:43:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/3] I've seen one indie wiki going w/ language namespaces, and I personally would go w/ that as well, if I had to make translations
[12:43:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [3/3] I feel like Translate is better when the wiki is somewhat complete and pages aren't updated often?
[12:43:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> original pages, I mean
[12:48:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] but what Translate does is creating a language subpage under original page, so it's kinda same as w/ namespaces?
[12:48:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] it's just that extension also controls how up to date those subpages are etc
[12:49:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> creates separate interface to translate bits of a page
[16:14:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hispano76> hellooo!
[16:16:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hispano76> miraheze space is discord, irc, etc.?
[16:16:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> yeah
[16:17:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hispano76> thanks, I'm out of date with the terms haha
[16:17:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hispano76> 🫠 :EpicFaceMH:
[16:18:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <juwan.> [1/4] heloo, template question: while importing some templates. they failed to create thumb borders and float on the right place
[16:19:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <juwan.> [2/4] I used TemplateStyles correctly, importing all dependencies, so that is not an issue
[16:19:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <juwan.> [3/4] using Special:ExpandTemplate, it gave me these outputs (my wiki vs. Wikipedia), which is the only major difference is this number after inside `<style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r000">`
[16:19:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <juwan.> [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1249759731330060410/image.png?ex=666878f3&is=66672773&hm=bd8f335b374f41ef0ccb0da961d8c6f6cb529ef7d22c54fcfda188f472d3f105&
[16:19:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <juwan.> what is this exactly and how could I change it
[18:51:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <its_gerryz> Hello there! Just joined this discord. I have requested a wiki on the webpage, how long does it usually take for it to be approved?
[18:51:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <its_gerryz> (asking, partially because i dont know if i get a notification if my request is rejected)
[18:51:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Depends on our volunteer team’s availability
[18:51:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to its_gerryz> If you attached an email to your accounts you should be notified
[18:51:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I can help you check the request if need be
[18:52:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <its_gerryz, replying to pixldev> yes please! I havent managed to find a way to navigate towards the page with my requests!
[18:57:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to its_gerryz> [1/2] This is the list of all requests:
[18:57:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to its_gerryz> [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue
[18:58:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Looks like you're getting towards the top of queue, so shouldn't be too much longer to get a volunteer review.
[18:59:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <its_gerryz, replying to notaracham> Thank you a lot! 🙂
[19:00:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <shummg> I can no longer access the wiki hosted on WikiTide, does anyone know of a solution?
[19:01:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to shummg> Was the wiki not migrated
[19:02:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <shummg, replying to pixldev> [1/2] Did I need to do anything special?
[19:02:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <shummg, replying to pixldev> [2/2] I am still unable to access it.
[19:02:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> What was the wiki?
[19:03:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <shummg, replying to notaracham> valorantjp.wiki（valorantjp.wikitide.org）
[19:13:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to juwan.> [1/3] Those functions were removed from Mediawiki but not on Wikipedia (Or they implement them differently)
[19:13:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to juwan.> [2/3] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Multiple_error_solutions_MW.141
[19:13:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to juwan.> [3/3] several of these are solved by adding the code from above link
[19:27:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <juwan.> ohh I see
[19:28:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <juwan.> Wikipedia causing despair on us once again
[19:33:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to juwan.> Indeed
[21:21:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mooncloud> Happy pride
[21:23:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> indeed
[21:26:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thedemon08> [1/2] So I have this template that creates a link when I type {{Ep|PLACEHOLDER}} @pixldev
[21:26:54] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Ep 
[21:26:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thedemon08> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1249837218298855564/image.png?ex=6668c11d&is=66676f9d&hm=1237430ed74ebe73c879c8f936198f5d921487b53eaaca9efa20678762740f99&
[21:26:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> :pupCoffeeMH:
[21:27:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thedemon08> [1/2] This is to replace the need for a slash page with this template
[21:27:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thedemon08> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1249837322233446490/image.png?ex=6668c136&is=66676fb6&hm=3690020c5eb35d1625a88b9b072b0c9af5b1e9f210280ecbd17eda2105301b6f&
[21:27:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <darkfawfulguy64> Whoa, what's with the rainbows?
[21:27:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thedemon08> Any idea how I'd modify it to make it so {{Ep|PLACEHOLDER|m}} would output mentions again to the appearance table I mentioned the other day?
[21:27:59] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Ep 
[21:28:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to darkfawfulguy64> https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1248279925195014204
[21:29:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to thedemon08> what third parameter of hoverlink does?
[21:29:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> and fourth
[21:29:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <darkfawfulguy64, replying to raidarr> It's better to be prideful than to be ignorant about Pride Month.
[21:31:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thedemon08, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Which part do you mean?
[21:31:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to thedemon08> `{{hoverlink|1|2|3|4}}`
[21:31:48] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:hoverlink 
[21:31:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thedemon08> There isn't a 3 or 4
[21:32:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thedemon08> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1249838672459858063/image.png?ex=6668c278&is=666770f8&hm=d3cf497cf8045729a25f1318dfe94cd19603d4f3b3e89d661254e76c24f149e6&
[21:32:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thedemon08> This is the hoverlink template
[21:33:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> ok, I mistaken 4, but what's on place of switch function
[21:35:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> aight, I can't think, gotta sleep
[21:42:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thedemon08> [1/2] Nvm it was this
[21:42:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thedemon08> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1249841053046145034/image.png?ex=6668c4af&is=6667732f&hm=9d78a8fa099313b6098945e4bc01d5d3532dd413db5bb81172dc3973ae14e42c&
[21:47:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> hi guys, i have a wiki page that seems to have been aggressively cached and serving a several edits old version to multiple people, is there a way i can force it to uncache for everyone. i thought there was a url parameter but i cant find it
[21:47:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> ctrl+f5 and purging on those individuals browsers is not working
[21:55:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to tedkalashnikov> @rhinosf1 when your available could you do a cloudflare edge cache purge funky magic thingy?
[21:55:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> hai
[21:55:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> believe it’s a cf issue
[21:55:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> rhinos has access
[21:55:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> its a high traffic page atm (newest content) and the revision its serving is my placeholder LOL the page is <https://phighting.wiki/wiki/Flipside/Dialogue> if needed
[21:55:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Whats the page?
[21:56:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> ive tried ?action=purge but i cant tell if it worked or not so a push would be great, tysm
[22:20:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> You can purge an url from cf with ?action=purge
[22:23:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov> I was unable to be at the meeting yesterday. Apologies.
[22:24:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> No worries
[22:24:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> You we’re hardly the only oen
[22:24:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> curse you forumla 1!!!!!
[22:25:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to felenov> We’re going to reschedule regardless
[22:25:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <brandon.wm, replying to pixldev> ahem
[22:25:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> yes
[22:25:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> (this is a joke obviously)
[22:31:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov, replying to pixldev> You just pissed off the F1 fans
[22:31:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov, replying to originalauthority> just for future reference, does that purge it for everyone?
[22:31:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to tedkalashnikov> it should (it purges ours servers cache)
[22:32:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> ahhh i see
[22:32:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> is it different from the purge extension? bc that one doesnt ask me to confirm anything
[22:33:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> mw native
[22:33:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> though it’s possible something borked with CloudFlare
[22:33:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to tedkalashnikov> Yup
[22:33:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> It also purges cloudflare
[22:34:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to felenov> NOTHING is more important than the Formula1 religion 😛
[22:34:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov> I just don't get it
[22:34:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <carhles> logo goes hard
[22:34:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov, replying to originalauthority> thank you! ill keep that in mind for next time
[22:36:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> (What it actually does is send an email to Rhinos to wake him from slumber and he purges it manually)
[22:37:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> (that is sarcasm btw)
[22:39:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> LOL
[22:46:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <juwan., replying to carhles> frrrr
[22:47:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to originalauthority> (of course. We all know rhinos doesn’t actually sleep)
[22:47:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> who would defend us against the evil ddoers
[22:47:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Rhinos goes to sleep early from what I've seen....or maybe I just stay up late and its actually normal time for everyone else?
[22:53:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> when do you go to sleep
[23:01:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <victor452452> wtf, miraheze woke now?
[23:14:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pangoplier2> [1/2] help please?
[23:14:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pangoplier2> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1249864416317669396/image.png?ex=6668da72&is=666788f2&hm=00a0181c04f8cd346bb57458c302c729bee9ed46508b629356a5f9db7cdf3b84&
[23:15:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <verityoffaith> miragay.........
[23:32:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to pangoplier2> Please be patient. We are all volunteers, someone will get to you eventually
[23:32:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to verityoffaith> prideheze
[23:33:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <verityoffaith> :UnicornMH: why does this emote exist
[23:33:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <verityoffaith> feels relevant though
[23:34:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <juwan., replying to rodejong> [1/2] feel free to respond this way later, but dark mode seems to be doing something weird to it
[23:34:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <juwan., replying to rodejong> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1249869406016639110/image.png?ex=6668df17&is=66678d97&hm=d216e6571316324a3a139d7f7a5bc3b078cce8546b6751f8f82ae000fb621e5d&
[23:35:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pangoplier2, replying to verityoffaith> relevant to what even
[23:35:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <verityoffaith> pride month
[23:35:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <verityoffaith> it's a unicorn and it has a rainbow mane
[23:35:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <verityoffaith> :UnicornMH:
[23:35:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pangoplier2> its just a random unicorn, not everything that has a rainbow is pride
[23:37:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to verityoffaith> That’s the icon that displays when GitHub gives you a 500 error I believe
[23:37:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <verityoffaith> huh, interesting