[00:59:26] [1/2] I get a lot of these when trying to upload an image upload request on Phorge. I'm trying to send a 4gb zip. [00:59:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1261487116710445156/image.png?ex=669322ed&is=6691d16d&hm=c170eb3dcaa74f659e104eb5b0a622d4a8eddbdce8177e0a756715acf512a8a4& [01:00:35] I'll just use the archive.org link instead, but just thought it'd be nice to drop here in case it's not just a me issue. [01:00:59] You can post the link. File may be to large to upload directly. [01:02:22] @suzuneu question [01:03:19] is it possible to import the latest revisions of pages (and images) that haven’t been manually moved over right now and then have the xml dump with the rest of the revisions imported later when the tech team has time? [01:05:16] Yeah, just sent it onto Phorge with the link attached ty :) [01:41:22] please do not upload four gigabytes files onto phorge [01:54:14] I don't remember how importDump.php behaves when I run it with the page already in place, so I'll experiment later on my private wiki farm [01:57:10] got it. if it does work like I want to let me know! [01:57:49] Anyone else having issues with long wiki load times? [02:00:28] someone needs to add wikitext link support into phorge (so i can type [[Community portal]] and not [Community portal](https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_portal)) [02:00:28] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_portal [04:10:42] yes [04:10:49] slow loading and got a 502 for a short time [04:10:57] any way to force a preference from citizen? i got some elements in my main page that simply break off when using regular or wide [04:11:39] you can force it with css, but it's not a built in feature of citizen [04:12:13] [1/2] speaking of the new announcement about archivebot, last month, I got someone to use it to archive my personal wiki that is still on Fandom, in any case if it would be closed by Fandom and I remained gblocked [04:12:13] [2/2] thankfully it's still not closed, but just in case, it's always good to keep a backup [04:12:50] and I also do have a personal wiki here that I still use, for a similar, but rather different purpose [04:12:52] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [04:26:00] > [13/07/2024 14:10] any way to force a preference from citizen? i got some elements in my main page that simply break off when using regular or wide [04:26:14] you can hide a preference by setting the localization string to nothing [04:56:01] <.labster> I'm guessing this is the thing turning all of our images into WebP: https://developers.cloudflare.com/images/polish/ [05:02:42] i linked it in the phorge task [05:03:12] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12317#246417 [06:42:40] As a matter, yes. There's a browser extension that allows it. It basically replaces all Fandom links with alternatives if it finds them. [06:45:41] Without a compelling reason (and not to say there isn't one there very well could be) we won't be turning that off. Webp is a performance improvement as well as SEO improvement. And afaik we can't turn off per-wiki. So that workaround you mentioned is honestly probably the best route. [06:46:15] you need to register custom domain in console as new site, request on phorge 301 redirect and transfer search console data from old instance to new [06:46:24] didn't know that affects seo [06:47:25] i'm not too bothered either way (since i'm used to keysmashing), just letting y'all know [06:47:49] wikiteam3 has built-in polish bypass and will yell at you if you don't enable it while polish is on [06:51:47] Because Google prioritizes it due to performance benefits [06:54:20] curse you google [07:05:12] Hey guys [07:05:18] I have a question. [07:05:55] Is it possible to upload a new file for this svg file? 👇 [07:06:12] https://gaulpedix.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Bullet-icon.svg [07:07:11] The "Upload a new version of this file" seems disabled... [07:41:54] We can [07:42:10] How? [07:42:24] Config rules [07:42:34] It is one account there is no option other than disable and enable on it though? [07:42:43] oh [07:44:05] Don't we have limited config rules or something? [07:44:54] 125 [07:45:07] But it would be 1 rule to turn it off [07:45:27] And then you can do a list of hostname equals x.mh.o or y.mh.o etc [07:45:58] Okay I suppose we can allow individual wikis to disable it if they provide a fair rational. But not just any wiki as it is a performance benefit. But if they have a valid reason why I see no reason not to. [07:47:02] @cosmicalpha can you see https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12316 because that might need the DC [07:47:34] Although that wouldn't work isn't static where they come from? [07:48:11] We can still do it. We can just match on the path [07:48:19] static.mh.o/examplewiki/* [07:48:37] Alright works for me then with a valid reason. [07:48:56] I talked to Void he said it was a config issue and may not need DC [07:49:56] Ye but then he said he couldn't find how to change it. It seemed to be locked lower than the rest. Last comment on the task. [07:50:08] Ah right. I will look later [07:50:21] I have to go for now I'll be back in a few hours to look [07:51:50] Ok [08:15:28] So i need to ask miraheze to tranfer it then? Or im i misunderstanding? [08:20:46] [1/4] no, look [08:20:46] [2/4] in google search console there's a site transfer function, in case URL was changed [08:20:46] [3/4] adding custom domain if you already registered in console w/ miraheze domain counts as such change [08:20:46] [4/4] if you didn't registered the wiki in console before, but google indexed miraheze domain by itself, you need to register it first anyway, to claim its ownership [08:21:59] But the 301 stuff, isent miraheze managing that? [08:22:57] [1/2] yeah, 301 redirect [08:22:57] [2/2] they don't transfer anything, they just set this type of redirect, all the rest stuff you have to do by yourself in search console [08:24:03] Ah okay, thanks!! [08:49:30] Complete hypothetical, would it be possible to change a wiki’s home page to be just the wiki’s url? (Eg. dogewiki.miraheze.org would be the url of the home page instead of dogewiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page) [08:50:43] I saw that managed to do it, but they have their URLs set to root instead of /wiki/ [08:53:40] mooncloud: Special:ManageWIki/core: Make the main page of this wiki use the domain root? [08:54:42] I never noticed that, I’d assume that requires a request? [08:54:49] i believe so [08:57:08] Would that affect SEO? [08:57:19] Do you think it would? Or [08:59:59] That would be really nice actually, makes the url way cleaner [09:02:04] We’re considering it over at but since we’re in a bit of an seo fight with our old fandom wiki we wanna make sure it won’t break anything haha [09:02:43] there's a bug where you can't edit the main page with that normally btw [09:03:20] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12263 [09:03:51] Thanks for reminding me of that [09:17:06] Yeah i get that [09:33:43] Hey, is the issue for SSL certificates changed? [09:34:00] issuer* [09:38:20] Nope [09:38:48] why you ask [09:56:04] my wiki seems to be loading faster today :babyyay: [11:06:32] [1/2] @Discord Administrators MediaWiki Specialists need access to #announcements. [11:06:32] [2/2] We need to use that channel for announcing MediaWiki upgrades. [11:06:42] Unless you want us to use #minor-announcements that is [11:14:29] @bluemoon0332 you picked a time? [11:15:31] I'm just saying we may need it [11:15:40] nothing set in stone yet regarding when we're upgrading [11:15:55] Ok [11:40:13] [1/12] hello!! quick question: [11:40:13] [2/12] I have this in an portable infobox, standard character infobox stuff: [11:40:14] [3/12] ``` [11:40:14] [4/12] '''Height'''/label [11:40:14] [5/12] {{{height}}}/format [11:40:14] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bheight [11:40:15] [6/12] /data [11:40:15] [7/12] ``` [11:40:15] [8/12] Problem is, users are putting heights in ft in the format `5'10''`, and as we all know this turns into `5'10` because the `''` gets interpreted as wikitext. [11:40:15] [9/12] I've tried to do this: [11:40:16] [10/12] ```{{{height}}}/nowiki/format``` [11:40:16] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bheight [11:40:16] [11/12] But then the `{{{height}}}` is not computed, and doesn't appear. [11:40:16] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bheight [11:40:16] [12/12] Tried to tell my users to type `5'10''/nowiki themselves, but some are terrified of HTML tags and I'm trying to make the wiki as foolproof as possible.... any ideas? [11:47:19] try to use `"`? [11:48:00] that's would be easiest workaround [11:48:14] i guess template is a no [11:48:54] I do actually use " on my wiki for vinyl formats [11:49:03] 7", 12" [11:49:20] oooh damn, i could make a hidden 'height' template [11:49:38] in infobox itself yeah lol [11:50:04] i'll do that then, thank you 💖 [12:16:16] I found it got changed to another one [12:17:12] Because the browser prompted asking for my attention so I knew that the issuer was changed [12:17:36] What did it say [12:18:16] The browser's notice is a custom feature as I use a custom browser, but the issuer changed to the ISRG one [12:18:34] ISRG isn't a new CA [12:18:36] The original is Let's Encrypt I guess? [12:18:45] It's just a different root certificate [12:18:54] Let's Encrypt have multiple root certificates [12:18:59] Yes it got changed [12:19:05] Oh [12:19:09] Ye that's just the root certificate [12:19:15] I know [12:19:21] Not the Certificate Authority [12:19:28] Oh got it [12:19:37] https://letsencrypt.org/certificates/ [12:19:49] So the issuer is not changed, just got changed the CA on PKI level [12:24:13] I think you've been caught out by https://blog.cloudflare.com/upcoming-lets-encrypt-certificate-chain-change-and-impact-for-cloudflare-customers [12:27:34] Noted, so the trust chain has changed [12:27:43] And Let's Encrypt is Cloudflare product? [12:28:16] No [12:28:23] Cloudflare just them to issue certificates [12:28:26] Yes [12:28:36] I know [12:28:51] Their relationship is really so complicated I can't figure out [12:32:17] Cloudflare have as much of a relationship with LE as we do for custom domains [12:32:37] Let's Encrypt simply issue TLS certificates [12:39:06] [1/2] :o [12:39:07] [2/2] There's a kofi [13:00:56] @suzuneu you can call off the import, the tech team’s on it [13:01:01] thanks anyways! [13:34:55] why the hell did my wiki get declined yesterday or 2 days ago [13:39:16] anuser0978: there should be notes or comments under the wiki request [13:41:50] [1/2] I think I found your request [13:41:50] [2/2] Your description sounds like an advert [13:47:23] oh yeah, that one [13:47:30] read like a commercial advertisement yeah, we don't do that here [13:47:59] if it's a wiki documenting something then it's going to need to do a much better job explaining what it actually does/is for [13:48:10] cc @anuser0978 [13:49:31] ok [13:49:39] yeah i was just testing it out [13:49:50] but yeah it actually sound like that [13:50:03] the request process needs you to have a clear idea of what you want to do with the wiki and ideally actually commit to it [13:50:17] random testing can be done at publictestwiki.com, which is under the miraheze umbrella [13:51:02] a key difference from fandom is that we do not guarantee a wiki; we need it to be clear in what it wants to do and have read the policies, for a much higher chance of surviving down the road so long as it was clear what it wanted to do and communicates with miraheze if it changes [13:51:30] we also would like projects to be well, serious, and not just things pumped out and dumped which we can't really afford from a resource perspective [14:23:43] hi friends, does anyone know if theres a built in "countdown clock" extension or magicword? [14:25:00] I’m fairly sure there is [14:25:05] Try searching countdown [14:25:11] ty will do [14:27:40] the extension doesnt work if theres multiple on one page, [heres the js i use](https://yohaji.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Countdown.js) which is from an older version of the [fandom one](https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/Countdown) (and uses the fandom syntax) [14:38:00] oh shit ty, this is important bc im about to be slapping two clocks on this wiki [14:38:23] wow that is some js alright [14:39:23] im sure the language stuff can be gotten rid of but im not nearly good enough at js to do it lol [14:39:26] this is a stupid question but how do i load .js from a seperate .js file into the wiki?? [14:39:35] like. how do i use this, basically, LOL [14:39:52] `importScript('Mediawiki:countdown.js');` on common.js [14:39:59] omfg thanks for my life [14:40:07] ive just been writing everything into common.js like a maniac [14:40:39] lmaooo [14:41:28] i was writing all the css into cosmos.css like a maniac bc the cache refreshed faster than common.css for the longest time [14:41:33] i..might just write this myself this js is barking at me [14:41:34] LOOL [14:49:11] silly question but does account creations on a wiki counts into activity that reset dormancy timer? [14:57:08] It does not [14:57:57] Who should I contact to request a global IP block against someone? [14:58:21] While it does show up in recent changes, anything that goes into a log entry e.g. (farmer log), (user creation log), (deletion log) wouldn't reset timer [14:58:42] jeanboulanger: Steward requests/Global [14:58:46] (on miraheze meta) [14:58:51] I think [[SR/P]] [14:58:51] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SR/P [14:58:52] okay [14:58:52]

[15:01:12] No, that wouldn't be relevant here. Global would be the correct venue, or CheckUser if there's concerns about multi account abuse. [15:01:23] a [15:01:32] i misread it 'global ip block exemption' [15:01:32] If it's a sensitive matter, emailing stewards@wikitide.org to make a report is also possible. [15:01:36] Ah, yep. [15:02:16] Well, it turns out I'm a victim of repeated vandalism by a multi-account. [15:03:31] Then either venue will work, but [[Steward_requests/CheckUser]] is probably more appropriate, esp. if you have multiple account examples [15:03:31] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/CheckUser [15:03:32]

[15:05:27] Wil do this, thanks. [15:13:05] @canyada (not important) i decided im gonna write my own JS for it, im gonna create a template that takes unix time as a parameter and then makes that a divs id, theoretically this should let me handle multiple countdowns seperately lol. i havent actually done this before though so wish me luck [15:13:24] gluck lmao [15:13:37] this should probably be a lua module but i cant write lua so [15:14:04] im a "dont reinvent the wheel (too stupid to reinvent the wheel)" typa guy [15:14:16] hhaha im the opposite, im like "if i dont understand the wheel im making my own wheel" [15:14:26] i find a lot of the Common scripts are really overcomplicated for sake of covering a billion different cases [15:14:39] i want to know what im actually putting on my wiki so i make more work for myself, but it means i can fix it later [15:14:48]