[00:27:15] Interesting [01:50:02] Rainverse Wiki got a custom domain almost immediately after joining Miraheze and our MH subdomain sometimes still shows up ahead of our custom domain in search results😭 [01:50:47] Not sure what to make of that [02:07:54] A few registries let you do this but to be an ICANN-accreddited registrar and do really any real domains you need to have a successful business [02:08:24] So I don't think "we want to let our users get domains more conveniently" would work for most registries [02:08:40] ill ask my friends at the WMF to sneak us some hold from the secret wiki gold vault [02:08:50] bribe ICANN [02:09:12] use revune from domains to put gold back in WMF vaults [02:09:13] boom [02:09:16] all problems solved [02:10:00] [1/2] > bribe ICANN [02:10:00] [2/2] corruption: solves all 'ya problems [02:11:07] ~~and causes quintice more~~ [02:11:13] >.< [02:11:28] COUGH uspol [02:12:32] anyways [03:43:31] Does anyone have any idea what language code `dtp` is? See it in wiki request queue [03:46:37] [[w:Dusun language]] [03:46:37] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dusun_language [03:46:38]

[03:48:22] Huh. Interesting. Almost certain no Wiki Creators have that in their babel so I may action now [03:48:24] neat [06:20:25] Ye were not becoming ICANN accredited. They are multiple domain reselling schemes. We can also just buy on behalf of users. [06:21:26] i have no context but miraheze domain registrar? [06:21:29] (/s) [06:42:43] If it's better than namecheap I'm in [06:50:29] Central Dusun? [06:52:40] Actually not a bad idea if we ever need the money; users can have exactly one domain for free, but they have to pay for each additional domain they need. I'm not sure if nonprofits are allowed to charge for stuff, but it's a good idea nonetheless [06:53:24] and how will you validate that one person gets only one domain? [06:58:24] Hmm...banning disposable email addresses from registering domains would be a good way to do so, or even requiring a phone number to register if an account is suspicious [06:59:06] i literally have five email addresses [07:32:21] got it [07:32:45] i have like [07:32:58] idk how many but one of them is an aol email for some reason [07:32:59] so [07:50:19] other question: is there some equivalent to mediawiki:importjs on miraheze [07:50:44] i should just be able to add the scripts in given it's a relatively simple bit of JS that just writes content into a div [08:08:57] groupnebula563_0765: as in modularizing your code so different scripts do different things instead of having one giant script do everything? see [[mw:Extension:Gadgets]] [08:08:57] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Gadgets [08:16:14] i mean i want to embed a js script from another wiki on a specific page [08:16:29] or all pages rather [08:16:42] the best thing i know of is using mw.loader.load [08:16:56] ah [08:17:00] how would you do that [08:17:13] e.g. mw.loader.load("https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=User:BlankEclair/global.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript") [08:17:23] bottom line i just wanna run a javascript on all pages [08:17:35] ok now where would i put that [08:17:41] add that somewhere where javascript is loaded (whether it be common.js or a gadget) [08:17:42] oh wait global.js right [08:17:50] or common.js yeah [08:17:51] global is for users only [08:17:57] yeah sorry lol [08:18:01] i get the two confused [08:23:55] ImportJS just takes stuff Fandom's Dev Wiki, easiest way to use them is manually copy code from it to your wiki, however not everything might work right away [08:24:36] some things have Fandom specific code [08:25:17] it just replaces a thing in a div it shouldn't be too proprietary [08:25:34] my real problem rn is it doesn't appear to be loading at all [08:25:50] it doesn't work nor does it appear in my browser's sources panel [08:26:13] what is that on Fandom originally? [08:26:53] there's no fandom.com pages appearing in the console, does miraheze/mediawiki fetch it via a cdn or is it a direct call to that domain [08:27:10] https://dev.fandom.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki:DiscordIntegrator/code.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript this is the url it's getting [08:28:28] i don't have the config set yet but i believe it should give some sort of error message i think [08:29:01] and i'm not trying to get it to load on the sidebar so that's not it [08:29:28] CSP [08:29:30] [1/3] there's a whitelist on Miraheze, I don't know details but I doubt you can take something off Fandom like that [08:29:31] [2/3] like I said, it would be easier to copy that code.js and template off Fandom to your wiki's Common.js [08:29:31] [3/3] [08:29:38] you'll need to copy the script onto the wiki [08:29:59] or request an exclusion for dev.fandom.com and wait [08:30:22] even if you'll request it about half of the staff is Fandom specific [08:30:42] for js tooltips I had to ask to adapt the code for Miraheze [08:30:53] *had to ask Xena [08:31:05] got it [08:31:19] i just wanted it to be updated but i suppose i can do that manually [08:34:46] well i added it to common.js and now it violates the csp because of the fandom url [08:34:52] cache fuckery i can only imagine [08:35:48] opened it in a new browser with fresh cache and now i get [08:35:55] `importArticle is not defined` [08:36:03] unsure if this is related tho [08:37:37] figured it out [08:38:16] it's some proprietary fandom js thing that basically just loads remote js stuff, i should just be able to paste the code it's trying to load into the common.js as well [08:42:31] and it turns out the library it's trying to load is super crazy complicated [08:42:32] awesome [08:42:39] ok you know what [08:42:44] i shall remake the script myselg [08:42:48] *myself [08:42:57] coole [08:50:50] there are probably other non fandom integrator scripts, on github I've seen at least couple [08:51:00] idk how to go w/ them on Mira [08:54:34] i remade it myself [08:54:58] but now i'm getting CSP violations (makes sense, i'm trying to shove an iframe into a span) [08:57:26] the problem seems to be it's running as an inline script(?) [08:57:48] wait i got it to work somehow [08:58:17] welp [08:58:21] never mind i guess [09:04:13] iirc discord itself is whitelisted [09:07:12] yep: https://github.com/miraheze/puppet/blob/938dd53dfdb9c29e02c610196a0beeadf1681955/modules/mediawiki/data/csp.yaml#L171-L201 [11:58:24] [1/3] annoyed by this to the point I'm thinking out a template for images [11:58:25] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1262740117219708958/IMG_20240716_131213.jpg?ex=6697b1e0&is=66966060&hm=a0a5b45f44d6b6b2d5a6ee4be8b2fef3ac1849f164b8ebeee511730b1341e2a9& [11:58:25] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1262740117530083439/IMG_20240716_131242.jpg?ex=6697b1e0&is=66966060&hm=2e591243ee8fa61e77f426c6f7dfeea993fa0cfb3112f780778f6f1b1b835333& [11:58:58] okay but like why is the second image so big [11:59:17] it's 300 something px and looks alright on desktop [12:00:52] my idea is a div with classes which would have normal (not horrendously huge) margins if float is given and would center on small skins, while image itself would be basic File w/ just size [12:01:48] [1/2] caption can be given too actually [12:01:49] [2/2] it's like bootleg thumb w/o fucking w/ figure CSS and that pesky black icon lol [12:03:16] *would center on small screens [12:03:49] i hate how the black icon only appears when js is enabled [12:04:19] but only sometimes? [12:04:49] no js: https://rainverse.wiki/wiki/BWK has icon, https://rainverse.wiki/wiki/Rainverse_Wiki#Rain no icon [12:04:52] js? latter has icon [12:05:04] gonna put this in my todo list as a minor inconvenience to debug [13:57:13] My Wiki doesn't seem to show very clear navigation on the mobile interface. Is there a better skin for mobile as well as desktop? [13:57:17] https://sotaloraaprs.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [13:57:46] I suspect that some users simply dont fing the content. [13:57:50] find [13:58:25] someone said this here like yesterday: [13:58:27] [Monday, 15 July 2024] [16.29.53 GMT+10] default mobile skin, Minerva, sucks - it hides a lot of stuff, I recommend to work in desktop mode or change mobile skin to something like Timeless or Cosmos, they won't hide sidebar etc [13:58:46] citizen also looks pretty [13:58:57] <3 citizen [13:59:10] one of our wiki editors use citizen [13:59:18] i use vector [13:59:23] Mine is Cosmos but that doesn't look good on a phone. The navigation seems to disappear. [14:00:10] are you sure your wiki doesn't use Minerva on mobile mode? Cosmos on small screen still retains all nav menu [14:00:14] Speaking of legroom [14:00:23] We summoned them lmao [14:00:30] wha [14:00:36] . [14:00:41] it only pings if there's a trailing : or leading @ iirc [14:00:52] It's possible. How do I force Cosmos for mobile? [14:01:11] check your wiki's admin settings, styling tab [14:01:21] okay [14:01:28] second setting after "default skin" must be "mobile skin" [14:01:49] if you are using cosmos on desktop though I suggest to just turn off MobileFrontend extension [14:02:23] since Cosmos by itself is mobile adaptive [14:03:19] thanks. [14:54:33] how many redirects do you think is too many redirects? [15:03:24] More than 1 is inefficient [15:07:15] classes don't work un or they do? [15:07:26] I'm having a memory loss moment [15:30:33] GlobalBlocking on 1.42 has the ability to globally block accounts, alongside globally blocking IPs which it could already do. [15:31:00] This feature is considered unstable on the 1.42 branch of the extension and so it is disabled by default [15:31:22] is that core or part of CA? [15:31:24] @Stewards you may want to start thinking on how you would like to use this feature, or if you want to use it at all [15:31:41] that's an extension called GlobalBlocking [15:31:41] Pixl: neither [15:31:49] It's its own extension [15:31:52] the extension Stewards use to block IPs globally [15:31:59] ah [15:34:03] Fun tip: CA itself doesn't provide IP global blocking [15:35:05] Our setup is an overlapping mess of extensions that no one maintains [15:35:16] Cause no one maintains CA [15:35:26] And quite a few big extensions [15:35:38] Although we're about to get SUL3 [15:35:45] Which is a near complete rewrite [15:35:55] please god above pleas [15:36:01] save us SUL3 [15:36:17] That's a wikimedia definition of near btw [15:39:37] Is there a way to see the contributions of a user thats not registered on the wiki? [15:39:39] Ie imported [15:40:52] Is there a link [15:41:01] Not if it's not linked to an account [15:41:11] OA: remind me in like an hour [15:41:11] daaaaamned [15:41:26] that makes this annoying [15:41:30] Does The IRC relay show replies now? [15:41:40] There's quite a few non-account accounts though [15:41:43] if it was imported with an interwiki prefix can you search vua that? [15:41:48] always has tmk [15:41:53] Pardon? [15:41:53] Don't think so [15:42:02] just not to which message [15:42:06] I don't know what you're replying to [15:42:09] Pardon what [15:42:11] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T348388 [15:42:22] [1/2] There's quite a few non-account accounts though [15:42:22] [2/2] this [15:42:27] OA: Yes, it has been for a while [15:43:09] Pixl: accounts that have been created by maintenance scripts or during imports but don't have a human attached [15:43:33] Ty @bluemoon0332 [15:43:33] like Abuse Filter and mediawiki maintaince script [15:43:49] Ye [15:44:09] The art of IRC is guessing what goes where, but that's what makes it is a higher barrier to entry than discord. Also the average person is not going to bother finding a client, a network and searching for a channel to go and talk in. People are either determined to get in here or a brought here by a [15:44:11] no use to this case then [15:44:41] Felenov: IRCv3 [15:46:21] porject [15:46:49] RhinosF1: IRCv3 is just a framework, every client handles it differently. While OA might see one thing in irccloud, Clair might see another in Konversation and I am probably going to see bare-as-bones output in IceChat [15:47:47] Felenov: well ye but if you implement the right caps then replies do exist [15:48:09] But yes it relies on the client implementing it properly [15:49:50] Snoonet supports the reply cap [15:51:08] And every client maintainer has their own idea on how things are supposed to work, standards are just guidelines. Oh, and every network has their own ideas. QuakeNet STILL does not support TLS and SASL [15:52:11] On QN, we /msg Q@CServe.quakenet.org auth user pass to authenticate to the network [16:03:10] Not supporting TLS kind of sucks [16:03:31] SASL sucks less [17:02:26] [1/2] In incognito my sidebar's fucked: [17:02:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1262816628471631924/image.png?ex=6697f922&is=6696a7a2&hm=42f010a161cb06a3cb43ff0d5bfb2c228ba7debf48275cd7237642d0089ad939& [17:02:52] https://wiki.minigamemadness.net/ can any you guys maybe check if u got the same issue? [17:03:14] [1/2] this is what it looks like in non-incognito [17:03:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1262816830683091004/image.png?ex=6697f952&is=6696a7d2&hm=ca83bf37d9762c8240ecad545d69fdd6e784773e37855a2a0338f8cb364d53cc& [17:48:13] Can l change favicon? [17:55:00] Yea [18:09:45] need apply or update myself? [18:11:40] [1/2] upload favicon image and add its raw file link in Styling settings of the wiki [18:11:41] [2/2] if you talk about favicon appearing in google tho, this thing updates whanever it wants to and nobody can do anything about it [18:13:35] Ok, I trying, thank you. [18:16:00] But I can't change localsettings [18:21:33] Ok I find it [18:21:40] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1262836567370629211/Screenshot_20240717-022114.png?ex=66980bb4&is=6696ba34&hm=ade8a00dbae9d495d8115de75b75a2ca7544f4ab43ff7170abc6579dc07dea22& [18:23:24] [1/4] Hi, my users are having an issue [18:23:24] [2/4] is getting stuck in an infinite redirect loop and wont load for multiple users over a few days now [18:23:24] [3/4] works just fine [18:23:25] [4/4] Not sure where to report this/get it checked, the url was perfectly fine until recently, idk if its having trouble redirecting to domain root [18:24:22] seems to work for me [18:24:26] also [18:24:29] interesing, it worked for me rn [18:24:38] the scringos on the main page bounce omfg i love that [18:24:45] Yeah Im not sure whats causing the problem :s [18:24:52] AND LOL ty theyre very popular [18:25:06] Is there anything in common with the users that are having issues [18:25:11] Are they logged in? [18:25:23] It works for me but a few different people reported issues [18:25:32] Ermm I dont think so, theyre all new or not usual users [18:25:54] quick offtopic - calc doesn't work in inline styling? [18:26:00] Let me try logged out [18:26:12] it loaded logged out for me, incognito [18:26:18] [1/2] boom [18:26:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1262837735065128980/QBMq0AM.png?ex=66980cca&is=6696bb4a&hm=cc6b8179c0e7ecbfc888e86029256228aa7ce0830ad4be8a31788339a86568e5& [18:26:29] Ehhh [18:26:30] Wtf [18:26:41] I second thar [18:27:00] I don't now much about DNS or the redirect system [18:27:03] uuuuh [18:27:19] let me think whos on Rn who may know [18:27:28] Mediawiki wants me dead [18:27:53] @reception123 MacFan4000 either of yall have any idea whats up here? [18:28:03] welcome to the club bestie [18:28:12] Agony [18:29:32]