[00:13:17] [1/2] All our abuse filters vanished [00:13:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1263287441024876646/image.png?ex=6699af9c&is=66985e1c&hm=54fd8db77f1c00540b1271f71666e81ee7366cb032255a99a8746a050c39ff33& [00:18:34] why was the upgrade pushed when it appears several extensions including some damn important ones like that are incompatible [00:22:28] Looks like an SQL change that didn't get caught [00:37:28] Ah, no, it's actor migration related [00:37:36] What [00:38:01] wait [00:38:21] I was looking at AbuseFilter before [00:38:22] Wait [00:43:53] ..ooooh so that explains that one thing thing where the filter didn’t exist [00:45:28] Back! [00:47:17] Thanks void? [00:47:31] I can get back to spam hunting hah [00:53:31] [1/2] Would something like this be possible? [00:53:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1263297569648283668/IMG_8099.png?ex=6699b90b&is=6698678b&hm=0fdf351048920cac74080f029ce8f6c028e22d0b3d9cd686117c6ae6b80eb43d& [00:54:08] Would need to be more like `style="background-color:{{{2}}};"` but yeah [00:54:08] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b2 [00:54:25] Oh haha, I completely missed that [00:57:32] How would I escape the style tag so that the 2nd parameter is read as a parameter? [00:58:35] the parser doesn’t recognize the quotes [00:58:49] its substituted regardless [01:01:17] That doesn’t seem to be the case here in practice [01:01:21] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1263299537695670303/IMG_8100.png?ex=6699bae0&is=66986960&hm=401ebcdeb8f4fe6eb6bad93d1a5caeadea336acad6b58e62a9723fdbd825dbcc& [01:01:53] I can’t really see what’s going wrong? [01:02:31] Ugh, from the looks of things, there are some abuse filters on some wikis that are still broken likely due to having been imported from somewhere else or a possible rename affecting things. [01:04:29] I could be getting it completely wrong [01:06:32] -# skibidi [01:07:36] @reception123 yo, so sorry to bother you again but how’s the import coming along? [01:08:40] I kinda thought the task would be started by now, maybe this is a bad time cause of the MW upgrade? [01:09:01] again sorry about all this [01:09:56] I just wanna know what’s happening right now with the internal whatnots so I can get an ETA for when the import starts, we kinda have nowhere else to go until that happens [01:15:20] Update, managed to figure it out [01:17:21] bump on the task as wel [01:17:56] got it [01:18:44] thanks [01:20:47] @groupnebula563_0765 I believe this is sleeping hours for him, so you likely won't get a response until tomorrow [01:21:09] I haven’t gotten a response from him period [01:21:29] he asked me to remind him in a couple hours, I did so, and he hasn’t responded since [01:38:30] https://www.kennel17.co.uk/testwiki/WikiDB [01:38:34] :HYPERTHINKBUTFAST: [01:39:14] I think I am starting to fall in love with this.. thing [01:40:09] it does basically everything smw, cargo, or dpl can do but does it in a weird and stupid-looking way that actually makes it more flexible [01:40:35] I wonder how its performance is [01:42:00] (it literally looks like someone took the loops extension and tried to twist it into a smw clone I love it) [02:04:53] oh wow it is very old too [02:49:55] is there a way to disable zebra [02:57:01] What does a security review for a new extension entail? [03:00:17] A security enginner who knows extension security looks through the code of an extension, looking for security issues and comparing against the security checklist and best practice [08:31:32] [1/2] is it me or classic vector has no option to see all of the changes on an article that recieved multiple updates? [08:31:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1263412831827525662/image.png?ex=669a2464&is=6698d2e4&hm=69be25c88ea142de785e23b6ca1ce2159cb71604f81f3e4ece52e0043d39186a& [08:35:41] well i just realized theres a history page but is there really no way? [08:39:07] verdessence: the arrow went into hiding [08:39:16] you can still click on it if you know where it is though [08:43:11] oh i found it [08:43:15] invisible [09:10:47] `background-colour` is not a valid css attribute, it has to be `background-color` [09:11:01] putting this here in case anyone else runs into the same problem [09:20:35] british problem [09:24:28] There's a way to replace the red links from the Language templates? [09:36:27] https://furrnations.miraheze.org/wiki/Draganian_royal_family [10:04:35] edit the templates [10:28:53] so i moderate the world trigger wiki (worldtriggerwiki.com) and for some reason it keeps saying there is no secure connection, and i have had a few others have this issue [10:40:01] mishima_77484: certificate expired (what is happening to auto renew?), will file a task on phorge [10:41:32] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12356 [10:50:41] thank yoi [12:51:33] that's the problem [12:51:38] the sources [12:51:47] ? [12:51:53] isn't that the solution? editing the templates? [12:52:11] of where generates automatically the article of the language [12:52:39] . [15:48:29] <34.29cm> [1/2] Dark theme Wiki violence yet again 😔 [15:48:29] <34.29cm> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1263522791609864192/image.png?ex=669a8acc&is=6699394c&hm=e95364f89d5a46d5a3d170336a87c166df6af914b5a2d2e2ad49aaaf6a483a93& [16:37:09] <34.29cm> [1/5] Sharing these on the off-chance that some poor Vector user with not a lot of free time as is oftentimes my case needs help making those fixes quick: [16:37:09] <34.29cm> [2/5] Use `.vector-pinned-container` to edit the appearance of all sidebars [16:37:09] <34.29cm> [3/5] Use `.vector-sticky-pinned-container:after` to remove or edit the small white gradient that sometimes shows up underneath said sidebars [16:37:10] <34.29cm> [4/5] Use `.vector-dropdown .vector-dropdown-content` to edit the appearance of the left "main menu" sidebar in its "hidden" state [16:37:10] <34.29cm> [5/5] Use `.vector-header-container` to edit the appearance of the header. In this instance I had to use both the `--background-color-base` AND `background` parameters, but it might only be because I set up a linear gradient. [16:53:34] [1/2] What's the procedure for requesting extension updates? Does this only happen along with MW updates or are incremental updates happening also? Current version of TabberNeue is bugged rendering https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12350 useless. [16:53:35] [2/2] This got fixed yesterday in a fresh TabberNeue release https://github.com/StarCitizenTools/mediawiki-extensions-TabberNeue/pull/165 [17:39:05] Created a maniphest task for this [18:22:38] You need --background-color-base for it to work, tried just setting the header to a hex code and it wouldn't work [18:31:24] https://alpha.sagan4.org/wiki/Category:Species [18:31:30] categories aren't populating it seems [18:32:21] null edits do work [18:35:10] so the ssl certificate miraheze has for our custom domain expired and nobody can access the wiki... this feels like high priority [18:36:06] can you access the miraheze url for the wiki? [18:36:22] it redirects automatically [18:36:41] so no [18:37:06] @reception123 could you see bout this if your free? [18:37:10] not sure whos domain this is [18:37:58] i purhcased the domain itself from my own host but it points to miraheze. on my end its fine, miraheze does the ssl for it tho and thats whats expired 😭 [18:40:40] whats the wiki [18:40:56] worldtriggerwiki.com [18:43:13] damn how did you get that they told me mine couldn't [18:44:09] thats liek the whole point of a custom domain tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [18:44:34] I know but I was told it would be impossible for the miraheze url to redirect to the custom one [18:45:00] That sounds odd [18:45:03] yeah it does [18:45:10] I’ll ask one of the tech folk who managed domains [18:45:19] Since Im not a member of tech I have no idea [18:45:33] I was told all I could do was use the google search console to try and make it favor the custom domain [18:45:39] wiki been down for days if i had the expired ssl certificate was the issue I would have been here sooner 😭 [18:45:41] which is easier said than done [18:45:48] oh yeah thats a bitch [18:45:54] you did the moving-websites thing on google search console? [18:46:05] You can't do that unless it's a hard redirect [18:46:13] why dont you have a hard redirect [18:46:29] Because I was told that could not be done. I was told it's impossible to make it redirect [18:46:36] thats so weird did u point the custom domain nameservers to miraheze? [18:46:46] it can definitely be done what 😭 [18:46:58] huh, I just tested it and it does redirect now [18:47:07] so wtf was going on not even checks a month ago [18:47:14] possibly a miscommuication [18:49:43] so uh, what can be done about this so we can implement the temporary DPL-based features to replace critical SMW-dependent ones [18:50:35] omg ur domain is a subdomain?? [18:51:06] did u purge the cache of the category page [18:51:10] yes [18:51:23] ok so yeah subdomains arent real domains and cant be redirected the same way [18:51:42] like a superficial redirect will work but like the thing with google search console i can see the issue... [18:51:58] well, it does redirect now apparently [18:52:09] good then [18:52:24] hopefully it does what it needs to do but it definitely explains the issues [18:53:32] side note, smw's built in purge feature no longer works either apparently [18:54:31] i dont have semantic mediawiki. theres a purge extension unrelated to that [19:21:46] [1/2] > Species with living relatives detected‎ (11 C, −2 P) [19:21:46] [2/2] ...negative two pages? [19:24:59] ..! [19:25:02] I love that [19:25:04] link? [19:25:14] wanna see if it shows for others [19:25:47] https://alpha.sagan4.org/wiki/Category:Maintenance [19:25:57] looks normal when viewing the category itself at least on my screen [19:26:12] I see it [19:26:23] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1263577628099743885/P24pIhT.png?ex=669abdde&is=66996c5e&hm=c08431566c54214f84f3dc4df984f9a5b54d1c690f677862d44e33dc70bf81d4& [19:26:50] I wonder what's fucking up such that it's. negative two [19:27:40] negative two 😭 [19:27:51] classic mediawiki glitch [19:33:26] I keep getting random 502's [19:34:43] what [19:35:15] bad gateway errors [19:35:23] where [19:35:35] on the sagan 4 wiki [19:35:45] https://alpha.sagan4.org/wiki/Main_Page [19:35:54] seemingly random, no pattern between affected pages [19:36:13] nothing for me [19:36:16] and it doesb't sit there loading it's just instant when I click a link [19:36:20] likely a cache server issue [19:36:21] it isn't happen all the time [19:36:30] let me see if icigna is yelling [19:43:15] same [19:43:23] I got one and subsequently got really slow loading times [19:44:23] same [20:34:03] <34.29cm, replying to quesquestion> I guess that confirms it. I had limited time to test it, since having to refresh the page, try again... ends up taking a lot of time eventually. Though thankfully this time it was pretty easy to figure out - the zebras from last time took me out [20:36:19] <34.29cm> Actually, looking at what I wrote again, I knew that parameter was needed. What I wasn't sure was whether "background" was needed if you're not looking to create a gradient. In any case I hope knowing the new IDs can help someone at least a little bit [20:44:38] How can you have ownership of both the miraheze.org domain and custom domain at once? You can only have one google-site-verification tag, as far as I can tell [20:44:59] should I just update the tag and try to move it before google realizes what's wrong? [20:51:04] nvm I tried that and it failed because the homepage is a redirect [20:57:20] .... did i forget to update our verification tag [20:57:32] we got the custom domain over a year ago... [20:58:23] i think i didnt have to connect the custom domain via verification tag [20:58:38] i think it was thru DNS [21:05:04] it just works [21:05:44] I inserted custom domain's key in wiki and confirmed in google, and nothing was done to old domain [21:44:15] [1/2] Google just started noticing our wiki in some search results but our Favicon is not working. How can we fix this? [21:44:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1263612323445211227/image0.jpg?ex=669ade2e&is=66998cae&hm=c38f877e3700972751ce52dd270d77b99c17e753b16b936d0768a3fc2368b8e2& [21:46:38] you can't fix it, google will start showing it when it'll feel like [21:47:02] dang Google [21:47:12] I would suggest to put something in apple touch icon setting tho, it's a favicon for mobile browsers [21:47:30] and google put mobile stuff above desktop [21:48:04] I put the same image I use in real favicon [21:48:20] We’ve set it as the icon, favicon, logo, apple touch icon and timeless logo [21:48:32] Doesn’t want to cooperate [21:48:46] "google is an enigma" [21:48:54] Indeed [21:49:12] oh well 🤷‍♂️ [21:49:12] I'm frustrated by its ways and its popularity but also find it hard to use duckduckgo [22:11:05] [1/7] > MediaWiki internal error. [22:11:05] [2/7] > [22:11:06] [3/7] > Original exception: [2c125b4142ba313010ae59c5] 2024-07-18 22:10:29: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryDisconnectedError" [22:11:06] [4/7] > [22:11:06] [5/7] > Exception caught inside exception handler. [22:11:06] [6/7] > [22:11:07] [7/7] > Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information. [22:11:29] What were you trying to do [22:11:34] view a page [22:11:40] Yeesh mediawiki has been having a rough day [22:11:42] https://alpha.sagan4.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=Template%3AGroup [22:11:44] Any page on this wiki? [22:12:06] it was opening a page via search, only happened the one time [22:12:22] Works fine for me [22:12:39] like other errors I suspect I will see it again if I click around some [22:17:25] db181 oom'd very recently, could be you were affected [22:21:01] Hopefully [22:21:06] What happened to it [23:04:35] Is there a task yet? [23:21:58] Does your wiki use semantic mediawiki? [23:22:04] No [23:22:13] weird. for wikis with smw, any page with ask queries gets that [23:22:21] Can you link an example of an affected page? [23:22:32] It’s an editing and uploading issue [23:22:52] as in a page that had the error when edited [23:22:54] I’ve had people in our wiki’s server reporting they’ve lost their edits from this error [23:23:13] on sagan 4, cached pages from before the mw upgrade appear fine until someone tries to edit them [23:23:31] (also if you hit the back button you get the edits back) [23:23:53] Ah [23:24:08] That could be the case here [23:24:26] it may also be helpful to know what extensions you do have. SMW broke because it was using a feature that was deprecated [23:24:39] and it's not impossible that other extensions were using that feature too [23:25:34]