[00:16:48] [1/2] It's normal that the template appears like that? [00:16:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1267999368749908132/image.png?ex=66aad3ef&is=66a9826f&hm=da93aa4a73e02e4264d440c4afa0edb883d9b66957f7d1ffe2b87df3e3c0fb07& [00:16:56] dot-separator [00:17:27] There's a way to fix it? [00:22:40] pls [00:23:04] i think that indicates that its a mediawiki interface message [00:23:41] put a `•` in MediaWiki:Dot-seperator [00:26:50] done [00:26:54] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268001910040952896/image.png?ex=66aad64d&is=66a984cd&hm=9da92a4d09710751e3c9b242af7d7a9c37a8cd5b54e6f644916b695d6ff4f518& [00:28:19] I exported that template but I don't know what or when I'll use it [00:48:19] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268007302372392970/image.png?ex=66aadb53&is=66a989d3&hm=39a237b425d95e5b6c8743387d4b3b76ec3071ca21497b8133c1c2980da5a762& [00:48:23] Oh shoot [00:48:29] here we go again [00:48:33] with another error [00:50:43] nvm [00:50:45] fixed [00:51:20] if its the DISAMBIG that needs the Disambiguator extension [00:51:30] its a magic word special to the extension [01:22:31] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268015907280650355/image.png?ex=66aae356&is=66a991d6&hm=297b7c80b7d1e1fddb976491dc0e0a44b934a38c8e6d0e6599eda7c1de6db01d& [01:22:41] How I can activate this? [01:22:54] I mean when you make click on a image [01:24:01] nvm [01:24:08] It's MultimediaViewer [01:24:15] I found it [01:24:32] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MultimediaViewer [01:28:03] but I activated it and it doesn't appear [01:28:44] 😔 [02:29:23] There is a bit of a wait after the extension is enabled and you should now see it displayed. [03:29:51] step by step it's looking like Wikipedia [03:30:19] with that [03:30:40] I need to find some extensions what Wikipedia uses [03:55:58] Hey so I made what i thought would be a category, but looking at other wikis they have Category:(whatever) and I didn't out the category thing, how do I change the page type/name? [04:20:35] [1/2] rename page is "Move" [04:20:36] [2/2] move includes changing namespace as well, if by type you mean a prefix [04:21:06] if you just to want change category you just change in source code whatever is after `Category:` [04:26:58] [1/2] How do I make a character info box like: [04:26:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268062325550743622/Screenshot_20240731_112642_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ab0e91&is=66a9bd11&hm=821f18c2ea85813bce558a6764deb27b1e0fbdeec3964b9191970ed9d7910b81& [04:50:50] need help with info box tooo!! [05:12:21] [1/4] @tempette @cosmicvin. [05:12:21] [2/4] check this guide for starters [05:12:21] [3/4] [[Infoboxes]] [05:12:21] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Infoboxes [05:12:22] [4/4] Pizza Tower Wiki uses portable infobox w/ very fancy CSS, so don't look too much into appearance just yet [05:12:22] [05:21:26] I suppose we need infobox pin in support channel, may I create one or gotta be orange role? [05:27:33] Question, if you block someone on a wiki can they still see the wiki? Just had to block my first vandal [05:27:45] yes they can [05:27:48] I know they can't edit or create pages anymore [05:27:53] Oh ok [05:28:11] [1/2] unless your wiki is private [05:28:11] [2/2] then you could perhaps remove them from access [05:31:21] yeah, the only way you can limit page viewing is to make wiki private altogether [05:32:48] Nah it's fine [05:32:55] I was just curious lol [05:44:37] [1/2] Am I doing this right? [05:44:37] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268081866657894461/Screenshot_20240731_124413_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ab20c4&is=66a9cf44&hm=0ab367a5c82633b5ad950ebc983b4dd8a2eefa25cf788dc5c5b3a927b8b82f84& [05:47:55] source parameter should be changed too, so its not the default "data1" "data2" [05:48:11] What would you suggest as a source parameter? [05:48:22] whatever the label is [05:48:28] Hmm alr [05:48:37] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268082874188304404/InfoboxBuilder_screen_2.webp?ex=66ab21b5&is=66a9d035&hm=f436af6fc345a053bb3f1a29b8d540710a32108c3143cf47a31ed3321a0aec56& [05:50:06] [1/2] ? [05:50:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268083246319665152/Screenshot_20240731_124951_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ab220d&is=66a9d08d&hm=ff8c2a60930193df9d016fc83fb94698c7c6ec83b480d9ac6bf451619e5a35a0& [06:06:50] yup [06:47:39] [1/3] I'm trying to use the one I made but it isn't showing, what's wrong? [06:47:40] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268097731562438726/Screenshot_20240731_134336_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ab2f8b&is=66a9de0b&hm=2c0a896eaf5bacecf8a4b62cb5d6240361739afa22e4da7bab3ac99b74ff25d8& [06:47:40] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268097731809771520/Screenshot_20240731_134633_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ab2f8b&is=66a9de0b&hm=d080e029887a8c836b348b38bd87e74f0c2d00f525424d5233d4756cf6271057& [06:49:41] oh boy [06:50:00] you aren't using template on first screenshot [06:50:09] Oh- [06:50:24] How do I implement it? [06:52:57] infobox guide actually explains that in the first section [06:54:02] Aw fudge [06:54:05] [1/3] hence why I ask people to read it carefully lol [06:54:06] [2/3] as I already hang in support thread of another user w/ the same problem, please go here (and read carefully, yes) [06:54:06] [3/3] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1268051799999516784 [07:03:17] :ThinkingHardMH: might fuck around and make a version of the infobox guide thats 99% examples and has as little text as possible [07:04:16] honestly you are free to rewrite it fully lol [07:04:39] My smooth brain: [07:04:45] https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-yippee-creature-yippee-meme-yippee-gif-gif-1489386840712152603 [08:06:58] [1/2] How can I add another category? [08:06:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268117692745912412/Screenshot_20240731_150636_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ab4222&is=66a9f0a2&hm=5c70ba9b3619580290e9bf395eca4b5d90b58344a4173bb20ffb3e4371b7861c& [08:07:36] [1/2] add another category link after it [08:07:36] [2/2] `[[Category:Characters]][[Category:Example]]` [08:07:36] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Characters https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Example [08:07:42] Oh thanks [08:07:59] I tried linking my new article [08:08:13] to my other article [08:08:27] but it keepss creating a new page by accident [08:08:53] ? [08:10:58] Elaborate? [08:11:12] so I have a page called Benjamin Green. [08:11:24] I read the article about Inter-linking pages [08:11:37] and changed it so it redirects to my wiki [08:11:55] cause I wanted it displayed on the World wiki page [08:12:00] like for the universe [08:12:31] [1/2] still dont really get what you did but i think u jumped a couple guns somewhere [08:12:31] [2/2] you just do `[[Benjamin Green]]` to link to the page Benjamin Green [08:12:31] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Benjamin_Green [08:12:40] oh [08:12:44] that makes sense [08:13:27] It worked! yay [09:11:41] hey how i do reupload the same image? I just deleted it because i don't like the name... [09:14:07] you should be able to [09:26:22] I just received an email asking for more questions regarding my wiki, but I’m confused how to get it to the moderators. Would I add on to my request description or is there a preferred way of answering? [09:29:16] Yes [09:29:20] Add it to the request [09:29:29] not sure if they prefer you to edit the original request or to add it as a comment [09:57:50] [1/2] Is it possible to give an image a outline? [09:57:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268145591112962070/Screenshot_20240731_165722_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ab5c1d&is=66aa0a9d&hm=1183f7693554a4da45c964c1f5e5de5d7ee08e414256bb5231950d4e5b4dd864& [09:59:21] [1/2] yes, with the thumb parameter. [09:59:21] [2/2] See [[User:BeeBot]] for an example [09:59:21] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:BeeBot [09:59:22] [09:59:51] `[[File:Apis mellifera flying.jpg|thumb|BeeBot moving a discussion thread from Miraheze Meta's talkpages to the archive.]]` for example [09:59:51] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Apis_mellifera_flying.jpg [10:01:18] No like uhhh [10:02:19] Like a border? [10:02:31] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268146771981373502/Untitled426_20240731170223.png?ex=66ab5d37&is=66aa0bb7&hm=91e63340c22f0a302e02e2dc400df155291632cdb5f2e6415137ac942d112c74& [10:02:39] CSS [10:02:42] An example [10:02:55] `
[[File:image.png]]/div` [10:02:55] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:image.png [10:03:32] Could I use a hex code for the color? [10:04:43] yea [10:04:46] Sure, replace `black` with the hex code you want (But you may have to integrate it into a global CSS class then set the border up for conveniences later if you have to use it for multiple imgs) [10:54:01] Can you change the font of the entire site? Or at least most? [10:54:35] If so it's the font "Architects Daughter" I'm mainly trying to do [10:55:34] Yes on the page MediaWiki:Common.css [10:56:07] Do you have the font file or can you find it on Google Fonts? [10:56:47] Both [10:58:44] [1/2] This I what I did with Google Fonts [10:58:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268160918957719744/Screenshot_20240731_115823_Chrome.png?ex=66ab6a64&is=66aa18e4&hm=980633e0da4b5accf42f431a238ce9a097e431921a4f4c5e23c08b065180ca8f& [10:59:32] It's a lil messy but eh it works [11:00:31] Where can I find it? [11:00:41] On your wiki [11:00:56] Just type it after the wiki/ part of the url [11:01:01] I have a doubt [11:01:46] How it appears the shortened vers of the article hover thing such like registered users and not in the wikipedia? [11:02:01] I wanna that appear for both in my wiki [11:02:17] Idk [11:03:11] [1/3] That's what I mean (registrered vs not) [11:03:11] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268162035431116830/image.png?ex=66ab6b6e&is=66aa19ee&hm=e51055478864ea17891e97cff4944bc4371aef9e56c49840b5a2cc900704589a& [11:03:11] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268162035779112970/image.png?ex=66ab6b6e&is=66aa19ee&hm=6170561e1dfd9b06e3093dbffe9bcc257e061f49f3fb072c51ecaf99203a9a0c& [11:03:57] I wanna that thing of the right appear to both [11:05:29] Someone knows? [11:06:03] [1/2] did u just turn on the extension? it might be a cache thing, the main page is more aggressively cached than most pages in particular [11:06:03] [2/2] ?action=purge or ctrl+f5 [11:06:48] > the main page is more aggressively cached than most pages in particular [11:06:49] huh til [11:07:20] 🤔 ive always felt like it is [11:07:44] what cache are we talking about [11:07:47] varnish/cloudflare or mediawiki [11:08:01] [1/2] Uhhh [11:08:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268163251766562816/Screenshot_20240731_180751_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ab6c90&is=66aa1b10&hm=dc40141fcb39ac8da3ea918991f73080ef993ead6a227f8ec09d7ba528c8712a& [11:08:34] tempette: you're missing a space [11:08:42] not tech enough to know the difference 😭 but if i edit a template thats used on the main page and a normal page for example, the change shows immediately on the normal page but takes a day or so for the main page (or i purge it manually) [11:09:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268163523549069432/Screenshot_20240731_180859_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ab6cd1&is=66aa1b51&hm=a29c62c4c2cb6c089fac6b861b7a8da7b5c4a0baaccf7ffe1e8ac86620ae11ca& [11:09:08] ? [11:09:16] canyada: when testing cache, are you logged in or out [11:09:25] both [11:09:36] but logged out is even more aggressively cached [11:09:38] logged out is more likely to get cached [11:10:04] the main page appearing to be more cached when logged out is probably due to scrapers [11:10:12] (random shot in the dark, but sounds reasonable) [11:10:15] 🤔 ohhhhhh [11:10:41] wonder if i should document the surface-level cache layers [11:11:38] id love to read it [11:14:15] I'm not sure what to do next ;w; [11:14:28] [1/13] this is how i did it [11:14:28] [2/13] ```css [11:14:28] [3/13] / Importing / [11:14:28] [4/13] @font-face { [11:14:29] [5/13] font-family: "Nova Square Slim Book"; [11:14:29] [6/13] src: url("https://db.onlinewebfonts.com/t/e7d46559e231acf28e056a12898f6552.eot"); [11:14:29] [7/13] src: url("https://db.onlinewebfonts.com/t/e7d46559e231acf28e056a12898f6552.eot?#iefix")format("embedded-opentype"), [11:14:30] [8/13] url("https://db.onlinewebfonts.com/t/e7d46559e231acf28e056a12898f6552.woff2")format("woff2"), [11:14:30] [9/13] url("https://db.onlinewebfonts.com/t/e7d46559e231acf28e056a12898f6552.woff")format("woff"), [11:14:30] [10/13] url("https://db.onlinewebfonts.com/t/e7d46559e231acf28e056a12898f6552.ttf")format("truetype"), [11:14:30] [11/13] url("https://db.onlinewebfonts.com/t/e7d46559e231acf28e056a12898f6552.svg#Nova Square Slim Book")format("svg"); [11:14:31] [12/13] } [11:14:31] [13/13] ``` [11:14:57] dunno how would you do the same for google fonts, but this is how i did it [11:15:13] I'm so confused about what I'm looking at [11:15:45] it's getting the source of the font from the given website [11:15:46] [1/5] ``` [11:15:47] [2/5] body { [11:15:47] [3/5] font-family:Architects Daughter; [11:15:47] [4/5] } [11:15:47] [5/5] ``` [11:16:14] Do I add this to my code or remove the code I already have? [11:16:18] add this [11:16:34] well assuming it exists floating somewhere within the library of miraheze servers, idk [11:16:50] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268165474403876904/Screenshot_20240731_181643_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ab6ea2&is=66aa1d22&hm=8a93885cc1eecb5959fb8ae07f2c8837c78a482fcdf80964025792b40f3b2446& [11:17:08] remove the \`\`\` [11:17:10] Oh wait I should remove the uh- idk what irs called [11:17:25] Is this good then? [11:22:53] I'll try it [11:23:51] HOLY SHIMMY IT WORKS [11:27:05] Yay [11:35:54] [1/2] Slight error- they ain't spaced like a list [11:35:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268170270762471505/Screenshot_20240731_183525_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ab731a&is=66aa219a&hm=f5f7329caffdf6040139510ac5ec3fbad26038b7d5c987bdeaed6c676997e3d7& [11:36:38] add
where you want line breaks, or add * in front of every line [11:40:21] Thanks, sorry if I ask questions too often ;w; [11:41:06] thats what this server is for ^^ [12:36:34] i was writing up a document all about mh caching, complete with like 10-20 references, and then i accidentally closed the tab that i was writing it on [12:36:50] naurrrr [12:36:59] i was just done too [12:38:54] i thought i was being clever by using show preview and not saving the page, so i don't flood RC [12:39:07] guess i'll go 180 and make 50 edits a minute [12:39:32] ctrl shift t brings back the last tab u closed innit [12:39:38] unless thats not a thing on ur browser [12:39:49] yep i immediately did that [12:39:51] all gone [12:39:55] sadge [12:40:19] it actually hurts [13:06:16] [1/2] Yk those texts in the wiki that mention a character and send you to thier page? How do I do this but without saying thier name, like it'll say "Him" and it takes you to a character called "Oz" or something [13:06:16] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268193013323137034/Screenshot_20240731_200505_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ab8848&is=66aa36c8&hm=3cbdb6c6156788cfb545ea4f780324f9eff0b1908d1b28edd7de0338636bde34& [13:06:40] `[[Oz|him]]` [13:06:40] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Oz [13:06:58] Thanks! [13:23:57] [1/4] How could I make em into something like: [13:23:57] [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268197461072154685/Untitled426_20240731170223.png?ex=66ab8c6c&is=66aa3aec&hm=0bd032ddba8b473154305c2a606d0eae19d065a217a3c791f273123648d1e7dc& [13:23:58] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268197461458161754/Untitled427_20240731182231.png?ex=66ab8c6c&is=66aa3aec&hm=e3b3995f96acab042ff9c1e6a53c8fd37d2decde92ae6b3deb8174aef5324a67& [13:23:58] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268197461906821191/Screenshot_20240730_223813_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ab8c6c&is=66aa3aec&hm=c68bea6e0074091009830e19322f608f1189dd6e186bc8a5d33faeb56c7443bf& [13:28:10] [1/11] clicking in image taking to another page? [13:28:10] [2/11] `[[File:`image name here`|link=`name of the page`|`other stuff like size`]]` [13:28:10] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:%60image_name_here%60 [13:28:11] [3/11] or in gallery: [13:28:11] [4/11] `` [13:28:11] [5/11] filename`|link=`page name [13:28:12] [6/11] ... [13:28:12] [7/11] `/gallery` [13:28:12] [8/11] I suggest to check mediawiki.org help pages, for starters [13:28:12] [9/11] [[mw:Help:Formatting]] [13:28:12] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Formatting [13:28:13] [10/11] [[mw:Help:Links]] [13:28:13] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Links [13:28:13] [11/11] [[mw:Help:Images]] [13:28:13] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images [13:28:14] [1/3] [13:28:14] [2/3] [13:28:15] [3/3] [13:28:37] Alright I'll try this [13:28:38] canyada: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:BlankEclair/Caching [13:29:23] i feel like the first draft was slightly longer, but honestly i'm kinda craving alcoholic beverages despite not having drunk one before [13:33:59] I was not expecting a mod here to be an alcoholic owo [13:34:39] [1/2] So I did the gallery thing but how do I remove the outter thing yk? [13:34:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268200153098227844/Screenshot_20240731_203329_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ab8eee&is=66aa3d6e&hm=56139129a9fc75c6e12c3a5ccf95990178f1907ece313bd922c3dd420e31090f& [13:36:13] [1/3] that will require custom CSS [13:36:13] [2/3] the thing about Pizza Tower Wiki - it's heavily modified, and that navigation block - I made it, it's not even a gallery, it's images and flexbox (CSS shit) [13:36:14] [3/3] gallery is just an easier method [13:36:45] Isn't it just mode="nolines" [13:37:05] oh, yeah that works too, I keep forgetting about that [13:37:24] although that images help page mentions it [13:37:44] Mhm [13:38:38] so yeah, try `` [13:39:23] Thx [13:41:10] Any way I could make em bigger images in the gallery or nah? [13:41:16] re: the caching essay - oh my god the link table cache (gnawing wood meme) i was fighting that shit so hard when trying to set default sort keys for images titled like "chapter 1" "chapter 100" so it sorts properly [13:42:40] ``, anything u need to know abt images and galleries is on [[mw:Help:Images]] [13:42:40] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images [13:42:41] [13:42:48] [1/2] `widths` [13:42:48] [2/2] [13:42:51] oop [13:43:23] I have to admit that Help:Images is needlessly intimidating lol [13:43:29] I agree on that [13:43:45] Just a note, I think you should update the graphics so that the Names pop up, since in both of these, they blend in too much with the background [13:43:47] but it has all the info regarding image rendering and gallery [13:44:06] i just ctrl f the thing i want to find :pupCoffeeMH: [13:45:47] There we go [13:47:03] [1/2] Nah dw, I just had to add heights [13:47:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268203276864852092/Screenshot_20240731_204603_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ab91d7&is=66aa4057&hm=5624d57f1280b048cc76ef2400f20ca08151d3e29996649b351a15cefda91a3f& [13:48:07] The first one is still hard to read [13:49:00] You just need to make the letters have a brighter value [13:49:11] Ah [13:49:17] Is it possible to replace image files? [13:50:23] Ye [13:50:26] yeah, go to file page and click on "upload new version of the file", but it might take some time to update visually [13:50:37] Alright :3 [13:51:00] other way is just upload separate new file and replace, ofc [14:08:51] Hey what should the height n stuff of the image of a wiki background be? Yk the (?)px [14:09:36] I wanna draw one for mine [14:09:56] backgrounds are highly variable depending on the viewport, anything from phones to massive monitors; there is not an absolute standard and the best options flex/stretch/etc to work [14:10:17] Ah [14:10:27] if you're opting to appeal for desktop then something in the 1920x1080 range is neat but if you want to accomodate phones then consider that will be seriously cut off [14:10:48] Best thing you want is something that loops [14:11:10] ^ will do the best job flexing for displays [14:11:38] [1/2] Alright, is there any guide like : [14:11:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268209460690681857/YouTube-banner-dimensions.png?ex=66ab9799&is=66aa4619&hm=0646d2b775abc8d586f516a4ce48b7ee3d9cc0ba5c690084ccda2a9ea8f33d3b& [14:12:10] Any suggested size so I can draw the looping thing? [14:12:16] yeah, tiled backgrounds like in old/2d games [14:12:47] I'd say depends on your taste/style/capabilities [14:13:43] Doesn't matter as long as it loops [14:13:55] Alright I'll see what I can do [14:14:23] Because if the loop is done well, you won't be able to tell what the size is [14:18:43] if you look for something like this it seems easier to find separate desktop and phone versions of this (there probably is one with both but I haven't seen it yet), ignore ones mentioning sizes smaller than 1920 mentioned because they're probably well out of date [14:19:14] and if you go larger you will preserve quality at scale, smaller devices can afford to scale down (though keeping the image a reasonable size is a factor too) [14:19:26] 'reasonable size' in context of file size [14:20:15] in kilobytes (if you're measuring multiple megabytes you have a heavy file) [14:23:32] [1/2] Like this? (Example, not final] [14:23:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268212457567162524/Untitled430_20240731212311.png?ex=66ab9a64&is=66aa48e4&hm=b222c977cb96fc1b8232c598acbbfd88c95cce0afdb415f599a63286ab172c3c& [14:23:54] that is a viable style [14:24:46] I'll try remaking it to be more polished brb [14:25:34] you can test most styling on a wiki by previewing the changes in your user CSS on the wiki, don't even need to save to see how it comes out [14:25:56] for when you get there, if you're not at that point yet [14:31:37] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268214490516688996/Untitled431_20240731213128.png?ex=66ab9c48&is=66aa4ac8&hm=579e57967a0db8fafe6912a68e5951430c1427cb47c0b5c202f5a977ea4ef64a& [14:31:49] Where do I go to test it again? [14:32:09] [[Special:MyPage/common.css]] [14:32:09] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/common.css [14:32:10] [14:34:12] [1/2] What next? [14:34:13] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268215143733661706/Screenshot_20240731_213351_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ab9ce4&is=66aa4b64&hm=a8bee7e195d525c19fa5ca483b09077f4f7185b83fb99efb2205d77ebcb06c7d& [14:36:04] Actually I'll make this darker [14:36:53] [1/2] note: page it has to be on your wiki [14:36:54] [2/2] first you need to upload image [14:37:49] Oh! [14:38:47] if you don't want to commit the image to the wiki yet, you could even keep it on discord in a private server temporarily (the image will expire but should last long enough to paste the raw link and test it) [14:47:46] @superkirbylover hi just a random question when you guys moved pizzatower here did your old admin lose perms because of it? [14:48:18] i wasnt on the old fandom wiki but i will say pretty much everyone who was an admin that moved from there to miraheze, yeah, they lost perms from fandom [14:48:43] Certified fandom moment [14:55:48] Average fandom L 😔 also remembered I have this [14:56:07] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268220655032074291/8imm2l.jpg?ex=66aba206&is=66aa5086&hm=d0efc19ab2bef126ebfc73af84d8645f142f1a6a0d946ee636c09fcfd365f997& [14:56:13] From a while back [15:09:24] I would love to move the wiki pages we have to miraheze but fandoms control over there pages is horrible [15:10:01] [1/2] Why isnt my background working? [15:10:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268224154897743922/Screenshot_20240731_220928_Chrome.jpg?ex=66aba548&is=66aa53c8&hm=ed68b255e4f6693494452d39e31bc015b9773e21eee8e29f9657fd609e509bb0& [15:10:02] page export is something fandom actually provides iirc [15:10:04] I forget exactly where [15:10:40] Special Statistics [15:11:13] ah [15:14:44] Wrong url [15:15:12] Oh how do I get the right one [15:15:58] [1/2] You need to go onto the file page, then right click the image to open it into a new tab [15:15:58] [2/2] It should be all black with only the image [15:16:09] The url should have static in it [15:17:10] it seems like the static was used [15:17:15] will try to see if I get a preview [15:17:52] [1/2] It doesn't seem so [15:17:53] [2/2] https://static.miraheze.org/kinderworldwiki/a/a2/Pot-PartyHog.png [15:19:17] Link is completely different here [15:20:03] something seems wrong with the selector because it works on the body element [15:20:21] [1/2] Followed your steps [15:20:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268226752673746976/Screenshot_20240731_221959_Chrome.jpg?ex=66aba7b4&is=66aa5634&hm=b0f35572f2e7611422d23aaf5a986a6e54b95cc362cb696d360060fe978fd2f2& [15:20:33] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268226805354201200/image.png?ex=66aba7c0&is=66aa5640&hm=e98657a08cfc25d920eb3895bc5fe25945533ae817f52a17c30a16db102068cd& [15:21:02] Huh... [15:21:50] Oh well if it works, it works [15:22:43] going to hit save on my draft and give a link for use [15:23:04] [1/2] What's wrong with mine? [15:23:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268227438979186802/Screenshot_20240731_222249_Chrome.jpg?ex=66aba857&is=66aa56d7&hm=845a70271633ad145c000409da638662177edf037cb0634f88415ff2bc35b332& [15:23:10] It's identical [15:23:20] (Message error) [15:23:42] Oh thanks [15:24:34] https://rubysrevival.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Raidarr/common.css [15:26:20] [1/2] Aw fudge [15:26:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268228259875782767/Screenshot_20240731_222608_Chrome.jpg?ex=66aba91b&is=66aa579b&hm=0e118a3b99b490493976504b66eb127ff8e8fb224441f802a5c37a874a29436e& [15:29:44] Idk how the heck this happened [15:29:56] It merged with the main background [15:34:28] you have an additional bracket [15:34:46] wait ignore me [15:35:33] Mediawiki felt like it [15:36:53] seems to be alright now [15:38:31] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268231320224399470/Screenshot_20240731_223822_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ababf5&is=66aa5a75&hm=20e96dd94bc65b1625184d2d26445f6265c59550eacb1880d8cf3dfa1eaed544& [15:38:58] Oop- [15:39:00] Lemme send a screenie of my code [15:39:00] (Internet error, my messages will be really weirdly placed) [15:39:37] Hmmmm lemme remove that bracket [15:40:12] Nvm bad idea [15:42:30] I think you should just give `.mw-page-container` a color instead of making it transparent [15:43:02] Got it [15:43:23] it's not design/accesibility wise good to have text directly over image, to say so [15:45:51] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268233171107975269/Screenshot_20240731_224532_Chrome.jpg?ex=66abadae&is=66aa5c2e&hm=5ce2cbd9dceb542b551f12debf0975b48776c7ff164c66bb1087caa8e460d9ec& [15:45:58] Uh- [15:46:05] Well fudge [15:48:21] :ThinkerMH: [15:48:29] sorry about that [15:48:45] vector 2022 is a different beast [15:52:35] I remember on the backrooms wiki the pages had different colors for every article [15:52:46] I wonder how they did that when this is hard af [15:54:39] It’s likely they implemented some js that have pages special classes for each category and themed on that [15:54:51] My wiki does that, with legacy and special world wikis having different colors [15:55:00] Wow [15:55:29] Could you show how to do it or nah? [15:55:53] It'd be a cooler thing and it'd solve my current problem [15:55:58] Uh it’s not thaaat hard you just need to install the JavaScript that does it and add an additional selector [15:56:08] Although you’d probably wanna get the styles working first [15:56:15] Then you can make them more specific [15:56:20] Ie on all pages [15:56:25] Ah I see [15:56:43] Since then it’s just importing a script and adding an additional `.category-Cat-Name` [15:56:55] Where do I get said Java script [15:59:07] I can look later I do t have it currently [15:59:13] Fandom dev wiki has one [16:09:30] [1/9] this is the js, add this to common.js, this adds the class `.cat-Thing1` to the if the page is in the category "Thing1" [16:09:31] [2/9] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Snippets/Style_pages_based_on_categories [16:09:31] [3/9] and then you have to style everything accordingly, like [16:09:31] [4/9] ``` [16:09:32] [5/9] .cat-Thing1 { [16:09:32] [6/9] background-color:red; [16:09:32] [7/9] } [16:09:32] [8/9] ``` [16:09:33] [9/9] so really this doesnt solve any of ur problems and just makes it so u have to do the thing ur currently trying to do, multiple times [16:17:28] my honest advice - design/custom look of the wiki is a secondary thing [16:17:53] the main part of any wiki is its content, artciles and files [16:18:52] considering it's your first time managing and editing a wiki I suggest to learn basics, build up content and gain experiences, including slowly learning CSS [16:18:54] visual design is a neverending battle theres a neverending amount of colors and paddings and margins you can mess around with [16:19:30] Alright, I'll put keep the background as it is for now then [16:43:52] fun fact, FYI: It tooks more than 4 years, since 2019 to almost fully understood MediaWiki stuffs [18:15:31] Alr thanks [18:44:25] is there a way to view the status of a wiki request? [18:44:46] ye [18:44:58] [[Special:RequestWikiQueue]] [18:44:58] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue [18:44:59] [18:45:18] [1/2] thank u [18:45:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268278332479246336/91d.png?ex=66abd7bd&is=66aa863d&hm=827942575913c5cb4a5593e45d7e3338134018fcc195611ef625b39689934eb5& [18:47:55] course [18:49:00] btw anyone know of a page on meta that has contact details for ts cvt and stewards as a sort of hub page? [18:49:17] like here are our emails, this is when you should contact them [18:50:48] why the hell is my mobile css finally working out of nowhere [18:51:22] last things I did was copy everything from common.css and vector-2022.css, didnt work, so I deleted mobilefrontend [18:51:24] welp [18:53:17] the css joker's trick [18:53:50] [1/2] Well nevermind, but also, nevermind [18:53:51] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268280481762246707/Screenshot_20240731-205211_Firefox.jpg?ex=66abd9be&is=66aa883e&hm=ae7b9bff232bf33b5eb32d8d73b44152ef6825ddda236673117ed35e241b5dbf& [18:54:31] I think the TOC is fudging everything up [18:54:57] or the TOC limiter template I had, which is obsolete now [18:55:16] @brandon.wm as a meta admin would you have opposition to me making this? [18:55:49] got the idea since a local wiki admin i saw made a contact page on their wiki and didnt have a good place to link to for things related to us [18:55:57] Draft it first in your userspace [18:56:04] Then I’m happy to sign off post-creation [18:59:45] likewise though I wonder if it can be thought of in parallel or with integration involving the help center/miraheze volunteers pages [18:59:50] ignore if that would overcomplify [18:59:57] is that a word [19:02:04] hmmm [19:02:20] im gonna make the page and we’ll see ifs too much [19:02:24] im open to change [19:02:31] i just want a clear avenue [19:03:16] it's good, contact is a bit scattered [19:04:39] what things should be explicitly emailed to stewards and not cvt besides oversight [19:10:51] actually, its the opposite, only pages with too much headers are affected [19:11:22] cu, probably any heavy investigations/sensitive matters if that can be put in clean phrasing, appeals [19:11:53] Also the only email on [[Help center]] is sre [19:11:53] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help_center [19:11:54] [19:12:04] should change prob [19:12:09] i just dont know who [19:14:52] that could be fully replaced with your expanded contacts page as a link [19:15:33] My wiki needed more information, does that mean it will take longer to be approved, or is there a set timeframe that it will be reviewed in? [19:17:35] hm? [19:18:30] My wiki submission was put on the "needs more info" list, will it be the same time as last time or something? [19:18:44] you mean your wiki request? just update description according to reviewer's question, see comments tab [19:19:08] we don't know what last time you are meaning [19:19:36] you might need to scroll comment boxes, they're tiny ... [19:19:56] I got the news at around 5 this morning EST and chose to wait until I was fully awake to respond. The reviewer's request was under the comments tab and I replied to his comment in the comments tab, but by when this happened, my wiki was on the "needs more info" list [19:20:09] it is put back in queue once updated and generally the person who reviewed it will get back next time they are available [19:20:18] yeah ^ [19:20:25] you just wait till they your reply [19:20:33] *see [19:21:23] Alright, thanks [19:22:24] Okay wait, now I'm not even seeing it on either of the lists [19:23:17] are all appeals stewards or are some to cvt? [19:24:13] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/47345#mw-section-request this is my link, I'm just not sure where to find it. Sorry for asking so many questions, this is all just new to me. [19:25:23] dont worry maye [19:25:28] we were all that person once [19:32:11] [1/2] Ah, sorry to keep asking questions. I updated to this, should I have put my further question answers on the main page, or is it fine to keep it like this? [19:32:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268290132394377437/image.png?ex=66abe2bb&is=66aa913b&hm=999ad06fda53bd68f6d01cfdf117faf9225867d8ea526af4bbd663a42fe51fa6& [19:32:33] comments is fine i think [19:32:42] you can copy to both to be safe [19:36:09] I'll do that, thanks so much for your help! [19:38:03] my pleasure [19:39:12] @brandon.wm @raidarr [[User:PixDeVl/Contact us]] [19:39:12] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:PixDeVl/Contact_us [19:39:13] [19:39:36] idk what to put for tech really [19:41:40] sre@, in line with the rest should do it [19:41:53] likely + a note about contacting only for bugs/service issues and not how-to [19:41:58] no i mean what do you contaft them for these days [19:42:12] tech@ [19:42:15] ah [19:42:20] its an alias anyways [19:42:23] its a habit lol [19:42:27] help center needs updating [19:42:31] i still haven't fully broken it [19:42:33] yes [19:42:39] someone should get on that [19:42:45] account access issues are the big one probably [19:42:50] In fairness a lot do [19:42:56] ja [19:43:09] we also need places to put this so other wikis notice [19:43:10] although a reference to the one page would be necessary if mentioned since that's the gospel for tech being able to do anything [19:43:18] maybe global footer? [19:43:30] the default global footer can have a contact the platform type of landing page [19:43:32] pardon? [19:43:44] but if the contact us page is directly linked there must be a disclaimer on local issues at the top [19:44:21] Yea [19:44:48] Feel free to add it ifnyou want [19:45:15] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Reset_lost_credentials [19:45:28] ah [19:45:45] most people will not have remotely thought of what tech expects, and by the time they do it is typically too late [19:46:20] perhaps that page should be served up straight in the interface when registering an account [19:47:25] mayhe [19:47:44] @brandon.wm do you wanna add the bit about tech to the page? [19:47:54] ask me in 20 minutes but yes [20:29:51] For most people the answer ends up no [20:30:09] I think in my time as SRE we unlocked like 2 accounts [20:30:18] Refused a lot more [20:30:37] any chance of sliding the link into a reasonably prominent bit of the interface [20:30:54] ideally before any loss might happen [20:31:53] I mean one idea was to warn if emails aren't set [20:32:24] Have some notice to say, are you sure? If you get locked out, there is a very limited chance of help [20:32:40] But we probably should [20:33:19] that would be neat, dunno how much the 2fa does also to reiterate you're screwed if you haven't saved one time codes or set up arrangements for proper recovery [20:33:57] 2FA is also a you're screwed [20:34:37] We're even less likely to help with 2FA tbh [20:35:25] I think most people who've had accounts recovered fit into the people we know category [21:06:24] bump [21:06:30] ~w~ [21:08:29] 😔 i’m not home anymore [21:08:39] imma set a reminder for myself once i get home [21:08:39] Go home >:( [21:08:42] lmao [21:08:43] sorryyy [21:08:55] i feel bad heh [21:17:50] don’t i was joking haha [21:33:28] fellas, does anyone havw any idea why the fuck google decided to kill our (pizza tower wiki) seo after we got new domain over a month ago and search console redirecting seemed to go pretty smoothly [21:36:23] [1/2] Not sure [21:36:23] [2/2] It still seems to be above fandom [21:37:09] really? [21:37:51] [1/2] we got a huge dip in show up numbers here, and I just tried several queries w/ no luck [21:37:51] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268321754212732980/IMG_20240731_141742.jpg?ex=66ac002e&is=66aaaeae&hm=0bad2d81ce247e150ccb3f4b72973ad4e7c090adc58f5808e48961acb20c725a& [21:37:54] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268321770482434048/Screenshot_20240731_223744_Chrome.png?ex=66ac0032&is=66aaaeb2&hm=3e796488746b602a3b5c4c1507617fa308bfff2ae67d7f1c66eb772ef3c916ad& [21:39:43] :ThinkerMH: [21:40:02] Mine is also Mira > Fandom > Enwiki [21:40:56] maybe I'm just panicking ... [21:41:02] I shall sleep [21:41:53] I will say that the other results for me are from Fandom, so maybe that's a factor? [21:42:22] I mean, id you aren't in incognito/clean session, google is just playing along to your previous queries/clicks [21:42:48] and it spies what users google in chrome [21:43:10] Mira was also top in incognito, didn't check other results [21:43:19] hm [21:44:02] Just checked, similar results with majority of links being fandom [21:45:07] "Pizza Tower" seems to be the issue [21:45:22] Miraheze is nowhere in the top results [21:45:46] It's the second for me on a browser I never use [21:46:36] Legroom did specify Google tho [21:46:58] Yes it was Google [21:47:24] With Pizza Tower Wiki or just Pizza Tower? [21:47:33] Pizza tower wiki [21:48:21] It's 1st for me with wiki, but without, I can't find it [21:48:39] [1/2] Pizza Tower Wiki ranks 3rd on DuckDuckGo [21:48:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268324473719750776/image.png?ex=66ac02b6&is=66aab136&hm=8ee51d9ce4c4b462b91b1637ea7f7fcb06356e99cd003e2cbef61ede99458920& [21:49:04] [1/2] I actually have the same issue with Kinder World Wiki [21:49:04] [2/2] I cannot find the Wiki with just "Kinder World" [21:49:19] Even tho I added the phrase in wikiseo [21:50:07] Just to introduce myself, I made the Roblox NPCs are becoming smart wiki!, the Joao joao wiki (in PT-BR) and the Minecraft Nations Wiki. I have been thinking about renaming one of the wikis [21:50:10] Is there a chance [21:53:15] ive never searched pizza tower on this laptop before [21:53:20] i use miraheze a lot though [21:53:30] If you just want to change the name of a wiki you(assuming you are a bureaucrat on that wiki ofc) can do so in the Core settings. If you want to change the url of wiki, you need to put in a request on Phorge. If you however intend to change the scope of a Wiki you need to get approval from Stewards via the stewards reqeust page on meta [21:53:41] fellow pt-br 🇧🇷 [21:53:50] :EpicFaceMH: [21:54:14] And yes there is [21:54:38] Assuming there’s no change in topic or scope feel free to request a change on [[Phorge]]! [21:54:38] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge [21:54:39] [21:59:00] Already did it [23:56:40] yes I did