[00:51:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> [1/3] So I have a few questions:
[00:51:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> [2/3] 1. How do I make my wiki page the wider style, I'm not sure what to call it because I don't know how to do it.
[00:51:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> [3/3] 2. How do I create a "create page" page? I'm not sure.
[00:55:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to stemow> I can answer the second one, grab the link of your wiki, out it into your browser and before pressing enter, replace the text that probably says "Main Page" with anything you want the new page to be
[00:57:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> I wanna know to hide the short description of the article
[00:57:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> and only show in the name of the article when you search it
[00:57:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> (like Wikipedia)
[00:58:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to stemow> are you talkking about changing skins? (question 1)
[00:58:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> I mean like making a page where people can create pages from it
[00:59:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> [1/3] i don't think there's any tool to create pages
[00:59:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> [2/3] but you can create any page with any title by simply searching for it
[00:59:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> [3/3] the wiki will tell you that the page doesn't exist (if it doesn't exist) and prompt you to create the page if you have the necessary permissions
[00:59:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> Got it thanks 👍
[01:00:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> as for question 1
[01:00:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> i believe you are talking about skins
[01:00:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> [1/2] do you want your wiki to look like this?
[01:00:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268372823420833944/image.png?ex=66ac2fbe&is=66aade3e&hm=ee8c30cbab063055a6f74c4cf55ff83e395f0fd888daa71a9c83debd8f2aa843&
[01:01:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> (minus the dark theme)
[01:02:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> yes
[01:02:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> yes please
[01:03:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> [1/2] if this is what you're looking for, go to Preferences > Appearance > Skin
[01:03:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> [2/2] under Skin, select Vector legacy (2010)
[01:03:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268373486817251368/image.png?ex=66ac305c&is=66aadedc&hm=f67f25c6b8e21400e3d14035eb641d64f7225a3cc9906b7fd4a172bc77d20c86&
[01:03:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> Thank you so much!
[01:03:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> no problem!
[01:06:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> [1/2] There is this type of thing though where you can create a page, I'm just not sure how to do it. If anyone knows, help is greatly appriciated!
[01:06:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268374371924185158/image.png?ex=66ac312f&is=66aadfaf&hm=5f2e631318875088d40e2fdb8ebb2a340286f55c1d1d489fcf989ea871d85fcf&
[01:07:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> oh this
[01:08:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> [1/2] if you are an admin, enable the extension CreatePageUw
[01:08:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> [2/2] then, search for the page Special:CreatePage
[01:08:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> personally i find this to be slower than simply searching the title of the non-existent page and creating it from there though
[01:08:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> but if you do not wish to have users deal with redlinks, this is a good start to page creation
[01:09:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> Thanks so much 👍
[01:09:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> nps
[01:10:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> by the way, you can also create pages with custom namespaces using this page
[01:10:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> stuff like Template: and Category:
[01:10:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> just add the name of the category after Special:CreatePage (eg: Special:CreatePage/Template)
[01:10:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> but that would be for another day for new users hahah
[01:15:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow, replying to furina.siyanse> How do I actually get to this page though, I don't see any link for it
[01:17:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> woops
[01:17:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> https://furrnations.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Official_website
[01:18:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to stemow> in your sidebar or at the top of your page, you should see Preferences
[01:18:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> Also, I wanna know to hide the short description of the article and only show in the name of the article when you search it (like Wikipedia)
[01:18:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> How do I link to a Category
[01:19:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon., replying to thelilacdragon.> The short description thing is anti-aesthetic
[01:19:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> But it's like you click some text to get there
[01:19:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow, replying to thelilacdragon.> Got it, thanks!
[01:19:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> Do you know how
[01:19:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> One more thing
[01:19:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> [1/2] How do I edit this sidebar
[01:19:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268377606802378812/image.png?ex=66ac3432&is=66aae2b2&hm=c3eab99fb720b73847516ccbb00d7860faecbacc20c10d9ef2a001b802f09b7c&
[01:19:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to thelilacdragon.> [1/2] one solution i found from some quick searching is
[01:19:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to thelilacdragon.> [2/2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Uhg56pd4dcttb4z8
[01:20:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to stemow> edit the page MediaWiki:Sidebar
[01:20:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon., replying to stemow> I already wanna know this
[01:20:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> [1/2] for example
[01:20:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268377865137815562/image.png?ex=66ac3470&is=66aae2f0&hm=676d1dd7f7ba7900ca6514962e43b91e8a571fbc6f4d240d93cde55f3b3424be&
[01:21:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> but do be warned that editing this will change the sidebar for everyone on your wiki
[01:21:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> administrative tools will however still remain invisible to non-admins of course
[01:22:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yonic_soseki> Speaking of sidebars, would it be possible to customize the heading text for that sidebar? Other than a hacky CSS approach
[01:22:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to tempette> if you mean hyperlinking a category, it should automatically be done for you the moment you put a category on a page, just that it will show up at the bottom
[01:22:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> [1/2] I only wanna the short description appear only the results not the article
[01:22:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268378311931723860/image.png?ex=66ac34da&is=66aae35a&hm=ba3822341f79ba43ec3c9ea4ecc3a4475c96261a0d45c4b9b2480d2d372cd0ba&
[01:23:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> Also, how do I change the big miraheze logo on the top left?
[01:23:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to yonic_soseki> i can only think of CSS, sorry
[01:23:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yonic_soseki> Thanks anyway!
[01:23:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to furina.siyanse> [1/2] Like this
[01:23:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to furina.siyanse> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268378627901489182/Screenshot_20240801_082330_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ac3526&is=66aae3a6&hm=589e564946a54f475af9d84797f723b8ebcec72dca87a8d5187afdd644a7863e&
[01:23:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> [1/3] In wikipedia only shows the short description in the search bar, not on the article
[01:23:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268378662529663016/image.png?ex=66ac352e&is=66aae3ae&hm=30e8f0c095dfaf4c1f8720c9fa2afa2841d94e1f1ceff69cbd23972aa7240746&
[01:23:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268378662886182912/image.png?ex=66ac352e&is=66aae3ae&hm=521eb37ef7a31da5c93bde1dadce69ba2e2ef9a339f06d7ea3c29c1942b83cb5&
[01:24:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to stemow> [1/2] replace logo in this page
[01:24:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to stemow> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268378687057690654/image.png?ex=66ac3534&is=66aae3b4&hm=21d05dc4e039653bff8a2e4bc7faf0683c3b1864dc3b04a6af26140453733751&
[01:24:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon., replying to thelilacdragon.> That's I mean
[01:24:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow, replying to furina.siyanse> And how do I get there?
[01:24:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon., replying to stemow> /wiki/Special:ManageWiki/settings#mw-section-styling
[01:25:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> add your wiki domain there
[01:25:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to stemow> in your sidebar, look for "Manage this wiki's additional settings"
[01:25:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> then just search for "logo"
[01:25:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to thelilacdragon.> [1/2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ShortDescription
[01:25:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to thelilacdragon.> [2/2] i believe this extension is what you're looking for, but i'm not certain
[01:27:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to furina.siyanse> [1/2] by the way, users of the Timeless skin will have another logo set for them as shown in the image i posted
[01:27:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to furina.siyanse> [2/2] if you want to change that as well, i believe you can just duplicate the link you used in the og logo
[01:28:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to tempette> as for this
[01:28:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> [1/3] i believe that the way to do it is the same as hyperlinking any other page
[01:28:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> [2/3] that is:
[01:28:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> [3/3] `[[Category:Enemies|enemies]]`
[01:28:36] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Enemies
[01:28:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> 5hanks
[01:28:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow, replying to furina.siyanse> For this, would I keep the "static.miraheze.org" stuff and then replace the file name, or how should I do it
[01:28:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon., replying to furina.siyanse> yes thank you
[01:29:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to stemow> upload your logo onto the wiki, find the link of the image, then copy that link and slap it into logo
[01:29:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> I disabled the short description in the tagline
[01:29:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> i believe that's how it's meant to be done
[01:29:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to furina.siyanse> I know this wasnt my question but how do I get the static image? I keep getting https://rubysrevival.miraheze.org/w/img_auth.php/9/96/Icon.png
[01:29:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> https://furrnations.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/settings/shortdescription
[01:29:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> from there
[01:29:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268380138371022868/image.png?ex=66ac368e&is=66aae50e&hm=d3aef58bf17489892025dfd333bb01da9f64c142dc3335e817994a4fdae221c4&
[01:29:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268380138765025320/image.png?ex=66ac368e&is=66aae50e&hm=0e1da9c9764a54b5e6a4c2aa274993e106f2664799fe6b768ae4a0416aba6f4e&
[01:30:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> [1/2] I did this but it's still the miraheze logo, did I do something wrong?
[01:30:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268380199041503354/image.png?ex=66ac369c&is=66aae51c&hm=b179f488169a3c4d39796c5ab2fe150adde05bd3132eca33d89c4cf2cab52f3a&
[01:30:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to tempette> i'm getting an access denied on this page
[01:30:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to stemow> purge the page
[01:31:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to furina.siyanse> I mean is my link incorrect
[01:31:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow, replying to furina.siyanse> What does that mean and how do I do it?
[01:32:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to tempette> i can't confirm nor deny, because i'm getting an access denied error, not a not found error
[01:33:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> I could try to make the wiki public for a while for you to check
[01:33:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> (Idk how to make it public tho)
[01:34:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to stemow> [1/3] for speed in loading, sometimes the current states of pages are cached in memory, so that whenever you request for it again, it can just take the version from memory and load faster
[01:34:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to stemow> [2/3] but because of this, changes may or may not be reflected instantly for you because the cached version is still the old version
[01:34:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to stemow> [3/3] purging a page forces this cache to be ignored and pull an updated copy of the page
[01:34:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> [1/2] to purge, go to any other page (not this one), then at the top right corner, under the search bar, click:
[01:34:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> [2/2] `More > Purge`
[01:35:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to tempette> [1/2] in your core settings, uncheck Private
[01:35:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to tempette> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268381533547397120/image.png?ex=66ac37da&is=66aae65a&hm=a085579ac02a716a3b4a0d3ee7f6af1aec7ce9f113b69406f7e0cd7f1fe920aa&
[01:36:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> There
[01:37:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> [1/3] I wanna know how to enable the hover previews, such for unregistered users and registered
[01:37:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268382027024044132/image.png?ex=66ac3850&is=66aae6d0&hm=ae671b3d66797feef86bb2301596e70c3015c42beb48d89e0da1a56427990e24&
[01:37:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268382027351195748/image.png?ex=66ac3850&is=66aae6d0&hm=d24c62052f134fb315a2c375df1f0833bf172b8232f47d051500a1a3779347ba&
[01:37:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> in my wiki
[01:37:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> There's a way?
[01:38:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow, replying to furina.siyanse> [1/2] I don't see the more dropdown menu
[01:38:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow, replying to furina.siyanse> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268382221195153448/image.png?ex=66ac387e&is=66aae6fe&hm=0b9859e9498a8ff2e2bdcfac74b1c70931479abed2af18ac8f8d3213a3adf3e2&
[01:38:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon., replying to thelilacdragon.> [1/2] It's due only shows it for unregistered only
[01:38:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon., replying to thelilacdragon.> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268382386479956022/image.png?ex=66ac38a6&is=66aae726&hm=2180782d7c6369c848fa418ba8646281460579f78f9d54941012fae1db474a83&
[01:38:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to tempette> could you link me to the file page? not the image page
[01:39:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to stemow> [1/2] yeah, this page cannot be purged
[01:39:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to stemow> [2/2] that's why i mentioned to navigate away elsewhere
[01:39:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> Okay, I just enter the logo like you said but instead of the miraheze logo its just blank
[01:39:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon., replying to thelilacdragon.> .
[01:40:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> in that case, both you and @tempette should be able to benefit from the same solution
[01:40:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> try going to your image file on the wiki, and right-click the image -> Copy Image Location or smth similar
[01:40:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> [1/2] according to the guide on meta, your link should look like 
[01:40:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> [2/2] `https://static.miraheze.org/yourwiki/XX/XX/File_name.X`
[01:40:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> this is the correct link to paste
[01:41:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to thelilacdragon.> this looks like a cache issue again maybe? i don't see why else there would be a discrepency in behaviour
[01:41:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow, replying to furina.siyanse> The only thing I get is "Copy image address"
[01:41:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268383195645083658/image.png?ex=66ac3967&is=66aae7e7&hm=b39d7cf48ef98b54134b7242c78d1daaf7ab425b78e3aae7dd05198f92a13aaf&
[01:42:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon., replying to furina.siyanse> I removed the cache but nothing
[01:42:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to stemow> yeah works
[01:42:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> try that
[01:42:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268383287307669616/image.png?ex=66ac397d&is=66aae7fd&hm=1545e7bd44d8383fdc09e86d073b6c254ac068a0c69339b275ea4efecdfc54bd&
[01:42:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to thelilacdragon.> hmm, then i'm not sure what is wrong with it
[01:42:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> extensions enabled on a wiki should affect everyone, irrespective of login status
[01:42:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268383428051468348/image.png?ex=66ac399e&is=66aae81e&hm=d0029bf9615108f5dc968354ea7968c092699ce7972a92d57693ce6018a984fe&
[01:42:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> especially these ones
[01:43:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon., replying to thelilacdragon.> Here's the problem
[01:43:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> logged users doesn't shows the hover
[01:43:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> i can see the problem, but i don't see what would make it happen
[01:43:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow, replying to furina.siyanse> https://static.miraheze.org/tyrillianencyclopediawiki/thumb/2/21/Tyrillian_Encyclopedia.png/250px-Tyrillian_Encyclopedia.png this is what I get
[01:43:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to stemow> correct
[01:43:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> use this link as your logo
[01:43:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon., replying to furina.siyanse> and I don't know too
[01:44:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> i guess for that issue we would have to wait for more experienced folks
[01:44:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to stemow> nice logo btw
[01:44:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> [1/2] Alright, it worked, but I'm not sure how to crop this right
[01:44:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268383802418528308/image.png?ex=66ac39f7&is=66aae877&hm=49c7489286e1ffd0d15afc620175e5d62250a88f5d88b1e359d108c8998a863e&
[01:44:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon., replying to stemow> redux the logo
[01:44:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to stemow> the recommended size for the logo is 135x135
[01:44:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> your logo is way too big
[01:45:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> https://static.miraheze.org/tyrillianencyclopediawiki/thumb/2/21/Tyrillian_Encyclopedia.png/135px-Tyrillian_Encyclopedia.png
[01:45:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> try this
[01:45:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> ||https://static.miraheze.org/tyrillianencyclopediawiki/thumb/2/21/Tyrillian_Encyclopedia.png/135px-Tyrillian_Encyclopedia.png||
[01:45:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> it's just changing the px
[01:45:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> @stemow
[01:45:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> I did that in the url and it still is as large as before
[01:46:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> oh so...
[01:46:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> i think you'll need to downscale it yourself
[01:46:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon., replying to furina.siyanse> that's what I was about to say
[01:47:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> [1/2] now it looks a bit as Wikipedia
[01:47:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268384526338621470/SPOILER_image.png?ex=66ac3aa4&is=66aae924&hm=d0b78506263a573ff5200955760671fd34e449f4956e0644d528396f279ae06f&
[01:47:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> I spoilered the image due sightly y'know
[01:50:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> [1/3] So it works on this page, but not on the main, I'm not sure why that is?
[01:50:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268385252401877194/image.png?ex=66ac3b51&is=66aae9d1&hm=75b04e51f5e7fd4045ccd0c3a1a559acb1ab9927f8c6a53eaf94e1b273b68861&
[01:50:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268385252653662247/image.png?ex=66ac3b51&is=66aae9d1&hm=0b41774484316ba448873eebf2a89e8441f29db720458a1cfab4af9efb0d50e3&
[01:50:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> purge the page again
[01:50:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> main page*
[01:51:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> nvm
[01:51:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> it's fixed
[01:51:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> [1/2] from preferences
[01:51:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268385595726630942/SPOILER_image.png?ex=66ac3ba3&is=66aaea23&hm=1151872f021b30433e980271d8f82c84bf3b91d63943d50c58e65c837fa20005&
[01:51:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> it worked
[01:51:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow, replying to furina.siyanse> Nothing changes
[01:52:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> The previews can be enable in wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering
[01:53:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> [1/2] so as result, this
[01:53:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268386046392008825/image.png?ex=66ac3c0e&is=66aaea8e&hm=3ddd76aa21d7bba244d8a6ae2e3138280de0af5d8a648311e8adf359e23f76b7&
[01:53:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> now it looks a bit as wikipedia
[01:53:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to stemow> may i have a link to your wiki's main, please?
[01:53:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> https://tyrillianencyclopedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
[01:55:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> i can't seem to see it either
[01:55:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> maybe it needs some time? since it works on some pages as you said
[01:55:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stemow> Alright
[02:00:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yonic_soseki, replying to thelilacdragon.> ForcePreviews enforces users who aren’t administrators to preview what they’re editing/creating before posting it
[02:00:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon., replying to yonic_soseki> oops
[02:00:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> 🤦
[02:02:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> So the hover thing to all users it activates there
[02:02:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> The previews can be enable in wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering
[02:02:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> [1/3] As a result generates that
[02:02:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268388405323108474/image.png?ex=66ac3e41&is=66aaecc1&hm=8388d4d6b38e8683510ddba69cacb65a2fc112f044f4f51fd7e3a9d7e7aaef9a&
[02:02:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268388405679620117/image.png?ex=66ac3e41&is=66aaecc1&hm=93e2486e8e63f39cb27ee4a0297ab9561ed97ad1566950f3009838aa1488b3bd&
[02:03:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yonic_soseki, replying to thelilacdragon.> No, that applies to your user only I believe
[02:04:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> anything in preferences only applies to you
[02:04:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> because it's your preferences
[02:05:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yonic_soseki> I think the option you’re looking for is in the Manage this wiki’s additional preferences
[02:06:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yonic_soseki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268389440976584724/image0.jpg?ex=66ac3f38&is=66aaedb8&hm=8c93d57ba408fd0add542e672fb60d0b013c9191cda25c79bdd3939525c9a13a&
[02:07:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yonic_soseki> I think the Default State should be set to a number greater than 0 (1 should be good enough) and check the Show Popups by Default
[02:09:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yonic_soseki> (Previews is also known as Popups)
[02:16:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> I like my wiki how it looks
[02:16:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> it looks step by step to Wikipedia
[02:16:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> but furry
[02:17:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> also the https://furrnations.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:Introduction_to_FurrNations
[03:06:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jmejuniper> There appears to be a fix for SMW—how can I impliment this? https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12352
[03:06:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jmejuniper> (most recent ocmment)
[03:10:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> We don't currently have the ability to deploy custom patches with our tools. We'd either need to wait until it has been merged, or until we can apply custom patches. (<https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12304>)
[03:13:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> oh, and can you please help look into the math extension problem in #support?
[03:39:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> Ah, should be fixed soon (<https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12419>)
[04:22:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> This is more a rule question, what are you allowed to upload as an image? Like if I wanted to show something that is what gave me the idea or show something that is like it's referencing am I allowed to upload it as an image? Cuz the image seems to only be allowed if it's your own work (found that out when trying to upload a png of a lemon)
[04:42:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tali64, replying to tempette> Generally, uploading images is fine as long as you respect the license the image is under (copyrighted images can be uploaded if their usage is protected by fair use), including images you created yourself; I am not aware of any restrictions like the one you describe, though rules may vary from wiki to wiki (it's good practice to follow such rules)
[04:44:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] a public domain image of a lemon may work too? unless I misunderstood what you mean
[04:44:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] also Miraheze can use images from Wikimedia Commons (think Wikipedia) w/o re-upload
[05:25:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Basically I went on Google and downloaded an image of a lemon
[05:25:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> I didn't make the image but it's a lemon
[05:48:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> i believe that as long as you're using the picture of the lemon in support of something else (fair use) it should be fine
[06:00:17] <Guest96>	 Hello, after wiki has created - what is the process to import my own wiki database into miraheze hosted wiki that is newly created? is it from Request Import? there are some content written on the main page of the new wiki - can I remove that text and replace with my own?
[06:02:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths> For the last question, yes
[06:03:00] <BlankEclair>	 Guest96: yes it is through RequestImport (if possible, if not then you'll need to request it on [[Phorge])
[06:03:06] <BlankEclair>	 [[Phorge]]*
[06:03:06] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge
[06:03:58] <BlankEclair>	 and yes, you can freely replace the text of the main page (the main page from the import probably won't automatically replace the default/edited one, but you can go back in the page's revision history and readd it)
[06:12:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to furina.siyanse> Alright thanks
[06:21:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to tempette> [1/6] this isn't how it works
[06:21:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to tempette> [2/6] proper file management is also knowing the source, author, photographer 
[06:21:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to tempette> [3/6] I suggest to use Wikimedia Commons images (which Miraheze can use by default) for this kind of thing cus public domain + no need to upload.
[06:21:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to tempette> [4/6] if we talk about, for example, some game assets, screenshots, this kind of copyrighted stuff, you might go w/ fair use.
[06:21:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to tempette> [5/6] if we talk about stuff created by yourself then that's just you - you say you made it in file description, but by default you're publishing under CCBYSA, which means anyone can re-use and/or change in some kind of way, under the same licence 
[06:21:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to tempette> [6/6] on Pizza Tower Wiki we made "custom license" for images drawn by SKL explicitly for the wiki - we don't allow reuse and changes of them, unless directly asked for and given permission
[06:22:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> these rules in fact apply to any wiki hosting, including Fandom - although it doesn't encourages it the same way as we do, resulting in admins being clueless in this field
[06:24:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> /for irc users, I had to edit messages couple of times/
[06:37:25] <BlankEclair>	 uh oh phorge down (502 Bad Gateway)
[06:37:47] <BlankEclair>	 [01/08/2024 16:32] <icinga-miraheze> PROBLEM - phorge171 php-fpm on phorge171 is CRITICAL: PROCS CRITICAL: 0 processes with command name 'php-fpm8.2'
[06:37:49] <BlankEclair>	 i see
[06:38:15] <RhinosF1>	 Ah lovely
[06:38:33] <RhinosF1>	 BlankEclair: it should fix itself eventually if no one is around
[06:38:41] <BlankEclair>	 oh okay, makes sense
[06:38:56] <BlankEclair>	 why did that happen tho
[06:39:40] <RhinosF1>	 BlankEclair: php crashed
[06:39:47] <RhinosF1>	 No idea why
[06:39:55] <RhinosF1>	 OOM?
[06:40:13] <BlankEclair>	 no exit code?
[06:40:43] <BlankEclair>	 i hate it when prod stuff just dies for some hard-to-debug reason, like you gotta put on a debugger on prod to actually figure it out >_>
[06:40:46] <RhinosF1>	 I don't have shell so no idea
[06:40:56] <RhinosF1>	 You'd have to check the systemd status
[06:41:05] <RhinosF1>	 I have a fair idea why though
[06:41:44] <BlankEclair>	 (oh it just fixed itself btw)
[06:43:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> So how could I get a custom license
[06:43:49] <BlankEclair>	 as in when uploading images?
[06:44:39] <BlankEclair>	 for Special:Upload, edit MediaWiki:Licenses
[06:45:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> yeah, licences technically are like warning templates
[06:46:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you need to create one first, then you could add it to file descriptions
[06:46:47] <BlankEclair>	 for Special:UploadWizard, you need to request that configs be changed for your wiki
[06:46:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> the MediaWiki:Licenses page Eclair mentioned is a setting for selecting licenses on upload page, you can either set it up nicely or manually add template
[06:47:16] <Guest96>	 After wiki created on Miraheze - how to import my own database? I need to put all my existing pages to the wiki created on Miraheze and remove the content which is here by default on the 'Main Page
[06:47:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> UploadWizard is way too confusing, I don't recommend it unless the wiki is huge enough
[06:47:30] <BlankEclair>	 after that, spend the next few months wondering why the hell upload wizard doesn't use your custom strings until you realize that the php-side of stuff doesn't send them
[06:48:01] <BlankEclair>	 [01/08/2024 16:02] <BlankEclair> Guest96: yes it is through RequestImport (if possible, if not then you'll need to request it on [[Phorge]])
[06:48:01] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge
[06:48:02] <BlankEclair>	 [01/08/2024 16:03] <BlankEclair> and yes, you can freely replace the text of the main page (the main page from the import probably won't automatically replace the default/edited one, but you can go back in the page's revision history and readd it)
[06:48:19] <RhinosF1>	 Phab is getting mini traffic spikes
[06:48:27] <RhinosF1>	 I will attempt to mitigate them
[06:48:32] <BlankEclair>	 if it's due to scrapers then it'll be hilarious
[06:48:36] <RhinosF1>	 But I can't find any great IOC
[06:48:54] <BlankEclair>	 because i'm currently researching https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12417
[06:49:54] <Guest96>	 Thanks BlankEclair
[06:49:57] <BlankEclair>	 yw ^_^
[06:50:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] Wait how exactly do I do that?
[06:50:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268460821210595328/Screenshot_20240801_135005_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ac81b2&is=66ab3032&hm=a3f1bad6e6b939dc29a81b007ce4423163377883e6babba25a15a79a35f6bab0&
[06:50:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/5] just in case you missed w/o me doing @
[06:50:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/5] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1268459663054078014
[06:50:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [3/5] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1268459932844429393
[06:50:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [4/5] here's our custom license thingy
[06:50:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [5/5] <https://pizzatower.wiki/wiki/Template:Wiki-image>
[06:50:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Ah alright I'll check it out
[06:51:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Oh its a tutorial?
[06:51:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to tempette> wait a sec please
[06:51:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Tyt
[06:53:06] <RhinosF1>	 I deployed a managed challenege to phab BlankEclair
[06:53:18] <RhinosF1>	 It's fairly wide but I'll see if I can find better when I'm not on the way to work
[06:53:22] <BlankEclair>	 mmk
[06:53:44] <RhinosF1>	 I have a feeling it's going to generate a lot of false positives
[06:54:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to tempette> [1/6] `* `template name`|`text in drop-down option
[06:54:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to tempette> [2/6] again, gotta create template first
[06:54:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to tempette> [3/6] here's code on my wiki and how it looks on Upload page (I'm on mobile)
[06:54:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to tempette> [4/6] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268461734948245545/IMG_20240801_095249.jpg?ex=66ac828c&is=66ab310c&hm=017fed801a3fc01866e6e642b90d132127614d185a0cc74859e11c3b1577dfb3&
[06:54:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to tempette> [5/6] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268461735254163560/IMG_20240801_095336.jpg?ex=66ac828c&is=66ab310c&hm=745369bf5211fb77b0cf2e256c3371632a49446a65ef8be01b3ad389f0ebfeed&
[06:54:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to tempette> [6/6] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268461735531253860/Screenshot_2024-08-01-09-53-12-742_org.mozilla.firefox.jpg?ex=66ac828c&is=66ab310c&hm=6c5372ee0f9cde3a7b824a61c40f3df56218d2d735bfe8e25867311b75966958&
[06:54:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> So I just type these in?
[06:55:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] yes
[06:55:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] I gave just an example
[06:55:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you will need to add the custom thingy option, if you want to use it
[06:55:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Ah-
[06:55:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> How do I add that?
[06:56:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you create it by yourself, whatever you call it you type it the same way
[06:56:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> and gotta make the template
[06:56:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> w/o template you'll have just red link saying nothing
[06:56:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to tempette> Alright I'll type the thingy in here
[07:03:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [1/2] Took a bit but there
[07:03:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268464179539607613/Screenshot_20240801_140330_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ac84d3&is=66ab3353&hm=8189418f610589e00d10f35034f4abc6e8b2b63699d7f92734d696a6683d9e41&
[07:04:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> No waig
[07:04:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> I need a template name
[07:04:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Whoops
[07:07:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Uhhhh
[07:07:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Yeah I don't know what to do next
[07:11:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I told you need to create template first ...
[07:11:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Was this not creating one?
[07:11:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> no
[07:11:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Fudge
[07:12:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you create templates on pages w/ `Template:` in their names
[07:12:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> the `MediaWiki:` pages are for settings
[07:12:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> What do you recommend I name this template in particular?
[07:12:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> i dunno
[07:12:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Can it be anything then?
[07:13:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> are you the only "creator" on the wiki?
[07:13:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Yeah
[07:13:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Unless you count the 2 people who gave character ideas
[07:14:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] yeah, can be anything 
[07:14:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] we called ours wiki-image, the link I posted before
[07:14:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you can make it simpler without parameters
[07:14:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Alright I'll call mine image-credit
[07:14:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> just text that you and others are creators
[07:15:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jmejuniper, replying to orduin> 👍 my bad, misinterpeted it then
[07:15:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Oh alright
[07:18:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [1/6] So just to be sure I put the 
[07:18:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [2/6] ```{{wiki-image
[07:18:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [3/6] |subcat = 
[07:18:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [4/6] |user = 
[07:18:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [5/6] }}```
[07:18:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [6/6] In the template and then use it in the image descriptions?
[07:18:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [1/6] So just to be sure I put the 
[07:18:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [2/6] ```{{wiki-image
[07:18:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [3/6] |subcat = 
[07:18:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [4/6] |user = 
[07:18:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [5/6] }}```
[07:18:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [6/6] In the template and then use it in the image descriptions?
[07:22:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you need something simpler
[07:22:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> since you decided to use the setting thingy for upload
[07:23:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> and I said, if it's only 3 users you might not need parameters (you familiarised yourself w/ template coding yesterday?)
[07:23:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> I think so
[07:26:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/3] I personally would make it just as is, without parameters
[07:26:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/3] just the fact that you and other 2 users are creator etc
[07:26:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [3/3] code on template would be similar to this https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1268175319429287936 since it's gonna look similar way
[07:28:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> when you finish coding template, you'll be able either just type `{{wiki-image}}` in file description, or add `* wiki-image|This image is only for the wiki created by wiki editors` to setting thingy and use dropdown
[07:28:02] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:wiki-image 
[07:29:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Alright
[07:30:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> Hmm, the challenge on phorge doesn't seem to work properly due to CSP
[07:35:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268472176638427136/image0.jpg?ex=66ac8c45&is=66ab3ac5&hm=b02562859eeb4becc14181cad6f437cb0894890eef9fb638872a52b0902f1278&
[07:38:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> well, if you're fine with it then ok
[07:41:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> I'm just wondering if it works as a license, that's what I'm mainly for
[07:42:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> (Maybe I'll add an image with it but yk)
[07:42:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I'm getting busy, I'll leave this to others to rate
[07:45:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Oh alright
[07:57:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to orduin> Any chance you can fix or do I need to revert
[07:58:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I will need the error as I don't get the challenge
[07:59:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> You can change the CSP at https://dash.cloudflare.com/f0ff6e358809279f6494c1896232d722/miraheze.org/rules/transform-rules/modify-response-header/60d48feac0b7400292043b31a4d6f5c0
[08:00:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> [1/4] I get:
[08:00:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> [2/4] ```
[08:00:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> [3/4] Refused to execute inline script because it violates the following Content Security Policy directive: "script-src 'self' https://phorge-static.wikitide.net". Either the 'unsafe-inline' keyword, a hash ('sha256-ZsewXtmTkgMNn+WcQjSbbPMlSKP6/Xjs6+nIM9GsPOI='), or a nonce ('nonce-...') is required to enable inline execution.
[08:00:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> [4/4] ```
[08:01:32] <BlankEclair>	 'unsafe-eval' (iirc) and https://challenges.cloudflare.com
[08:01:49] <BlankEclair>	 ah unsafe-inline
[08:03:05] <BlankEclair>	 might need to add challenges.cloudflare.com to connect-src and whatever allows iframes too
[08:03:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to orduin> Can you fix it? I'm mobile
[08:03:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> And about to go into a work thing
[08:03:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> I can try
[08:19:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> Fixed!
[08:20:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> Needed to set `frame-src: 'self' https://challenges.cloudflare.com; script-src 'self' 'unsafe-inline' 'unsafe-eval' https://challenges.cloudflare.com blob: 'self';`
[08:51:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to tempette> Does this work as a license yall?
[09:33:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [1/2] This is weird, why aren't the images working. They work fine on every other page
[09:33:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268501804648501288/Screenshot_20240801_163247_Chrome.jpg?ex=66aca7dd&is=66ab565d&hm=0f0a8c989223ef082246ce1b8a2ef39af2d2f798dd189a112ef7b16d0e086614&
[09:33:42] <BlankEclair>	 tempette: link?
[09:34:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Wdym
[09:34:05] <BlankEclair>	 link to the page
[09:35:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Oh give me a sec
[09:35:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> I'm gonna have to make it public
[09:37:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Oh nvm it works now
[09:37:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Huh, weird
[09:39:05] <BlankEclair>	 hmm interesting
[09:39:20] <BlankEclair>	 brain points me to private wiki + static.miraheze.org issue
[09:39:39] <BlankEclair>	 but that shouldn't apply here, right?
[09:40:03] <BlankEclair>	 will need the page to investigate tho
[10:18:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to tempette> Anyways yeah does this work as a license?
[10:20:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> Question: Are you able to add a contents to the side of the wiki where Main menu is or configure main menu to function like a contents
[10:21:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268513914711179315/image.png?ex=66acb325&is=66ab61a5&hm=a1d9708c721f0a9374f7a3ee20ac8f8b94cf13072c2919ae325b39e9539a64fe&
[10:26:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to orduin> Thank you!
[10:34:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> is it possible to set a custom logo for the cosmos skin
[10:34:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> it displays it oddly so I need to give it a different version
[10:35:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to 0krix0> possible w/ JS + depends on skin
[10:36:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to groupnebula563_0765> wdym by logo and what's special w/ cosmos on it?
[10:36:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> logo is something that usually in the left upper corner
[10:36:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> cosmos also supports wordmark iirc
[10:37:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> $wgLogo
[10:37:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> other skins scale it up, cosmos doesn’t
[10:38:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> optimal size of logo is 135x135px
[10:38:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> plus the version on cosmos should be larger enough to the extent I want a higher res version anyways
[10:38:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> from my experience cosmos makes such logo smaller
[10:39:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to groupnebula563_0765> you can poke around skin specific CSS
[10:39:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> got it, that’s what I was gonna do
[10:39:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> just wanted to check here first to see if anyone had developed a fix already
[10:40:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> maybe Canada can suggest something
[10:41:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> made lots of Cosmos snippets
[10:43:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> @canyada
[10:43:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> you got anything?
[10:44:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> does anyone in here do wiki set ups?
[10:44:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to 0krix0> wdym?
[10:44:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> like I have no clue what Im doing
[10:44:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you request wiki, the wiki is created in default state, you have settings and stuff
[10:44:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> well, ask here what exactly troubles you
[10:45:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> Miraheze is slow again
[10:45:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you might need to check FAQ tho
[10:45:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [[FAQ]]
[10:45:19] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/FAQ
[10:45:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> I have looked at it yeah
[10:45:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> thats how I figured out images
[10:45:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> damn, rip wiki bot
[10:45:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paul_56671> hi all, I just joined Miraheze Meta as Normality and I'm very excited about starting a new wiki called eristicpsych. It's in the review queue as of about 16 hours ago and I'm just curious roughly how long the process takes? Also, the site is so slow right now that I can't get to the page that shows my wiki requests
[10:45:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> I cant find anything on setting up the contents at the side
[10:45:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to 0krix0> oh, that's a more of experienced admin level of things
[10:46:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada, replying to groupnebula563_0765> whats the exact thing, u want a hq logo?
[10:46:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332, replying to jeanboulanger> are you using a wiki on a miraheze.org subdomain? Wikis in those domains aren't load balanced due to https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12412
[10:46:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to bluemoon0332> Yes
[10:46:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to canyada> I wanna specify a separate logo url for cosmos
[10:46:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> well at least you know why it is slow
[10:46:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to 0krix0> but default skin is exactly what you posted on screenshot, the thing is that individual users can make ToC appear like that
[10:47:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to bluemoon0332> Yes, but that doesn't solve the problem.
[10:47:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> true that
[10:48:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> [1/3] like I created a secondary page but Im unsure how to tie it all together, / make the wiki look nice with different background colours 
[10:48:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> [2/3] apart from that all Id really need to be able to do is know how to addthe side thing
[10:48:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268520667138232382/image.png?ex=66acb96f&is=66ab67ef&hm=464fa6fa1bd1c652804d86115cf44238965e342766e1461f3250860ddf5a58fb&
[10:48:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada, replying to groupnebula563_0765> off the top of my head: display none the actual logo image, hardcode the container of the logo (.cosmos-header__wordmark for wordmark, idk what the logo one is) to be the right size, make the logo the background image of the logo container div
[10:48:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> Used dday as an example
[10:48:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to canyada> ok
[10:48:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> I’ll try that, thanks a ton!
[10:50:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to 0krix0> [1/4] my advice - look at other good wikis that aren't wikipedia, preferably by looking into "source code" of pages
[10:50:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to 0krix0> [2/4] I learned most of stuff by myself 
[10:50:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to 0krix0> [3/4] the "side thing" is called infobox, we have a guide on it, but you should learn templates to understand it for real
[10:50:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to 0krix0> [4/4] the nice background and overall look part is honestly secondary, usually achieved w/ CSS coding
[10:50:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> Is there no like page template thing I could paste in whenever I create every new page and just edit the text and images on the different pages. Then all Id need is an Index and a way to tidy up the background to look better.
[10:50:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> [1/2] ah but then it wont function as a link to the homepage anymore
[10:50:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> [2/2] set width and height + display:block + background image the <a> thats inside the logo container div instead
[10:50:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> does the background have to be done on a per page basis?
[10:51:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to 0krix0> no, CSS is a thing that affects the entire web site (individual wiki in our case)
[10:51:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> couldnt I just pay someone a few quid to do that
[10:51:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> like if nots something Im constantly going to have to be doing
[10:52:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths, replying to 0krix0> [1/2] Different wikis have different page structures 
[10:52:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths, replying to 0krix0> [2/2] What works for some may not work for you
[10:52:05] <BlankEclair>	 if you find someone then i guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[10:52:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> well, I can't take that offer lol
[10:52:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> the downside of getting someone else to do it for u is u have to actually communicate what exactly u want
[10:52:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0, replying to canyada> yeah its a pain in the ass
[10:53:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> the thing is im setting up a minecraft server and this is just one of many components
[10:53:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> start w/ basics
[10:53:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> what exactly are you trying to do
[10:53:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths> W3schools has a good resource on css
[10:53:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> I might be able to at least whip up something you can customize real quick
[10:53:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> its not that Im a lazy bastard (I am) its just i dont have time for everything. Im more than happy to learn a few things I just cant be learning a coding language to make a 1 off wiki if you get me
[10:53:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> we had recently another mc server person here who was zero at wiki stuff and he still managed learn
[10:53:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> does stuff by himself happily now
[10:54:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0, replying to groupnebula563_0765> like 2 basic page templates
[10:54:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> and an index at the side so people know what pages there are
[10:54:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> ah
[10:54:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> like a preload in the editor?
[10:54:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> yeah
[10:55:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> that I could just copy in and edit a few things around
[10:55:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to 0krix0> take a look at https://chinafake.miraheze.org/New_Page for an example of how the preloading is actually done
[10:55:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> this is an example of a minecraft Wiki I basically want the same thing.
[10:55:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268522569183527063/image.png?ex=66acbb34&is=66ab69b4&hm=2346de0aeef8baf4f06b1f603427307e0804f94356ad4325eafb5570ba75ff57&
[10:55:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0, replying to groupnebula563_0765> will do
[10:56:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to groupnebula563_0765> that’s the best I can do, I’m super tired rn, I can prob do a lot more after I get some sleep :)
[10:56:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0, replying to groupnebula563_0765> Would be a massive help
[10:56:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> [1/2] hey guys, i asked for a new wiki yesterday and i'm just curious how long they might take to review these days. i totally understand the folks here are very busy and struggling with a lot of issues, but i just want to have an idea of whether i should stick with miraheze or, idk, buy confluence or something. i really really want a wiki and don't want to wait longer than necessary 
[10:56:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> [2/2] on a promise that might not be realized
[10:57:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths, replying to 0krix0> This you probably want to edit MediaWiki:Sidebar
[10:57:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> what is the code for the wikis by the way?
[10:57:27] <BlankEclair>	 wikitext?
[10:57:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0, replying to ghaztliousmoths> is that an extension or something?
[10:57:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths> Nope, a page
[10:57:47] <BlankEclair>	 getnormality: iirc wiki requests can take a few days to be reviewed
[10:57:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> u type it into ur url bar `YOURWIKI.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar`
[10:58:02] <BlankEclair>	 i swear there's some kinda backlog counter thing, lemme see if i can find it
[10:58:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to 0krix0> [1/2] wiki text is similar to discord markup tbh
[10:58:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to 0krix0> [2/2] it also supports HTML (basic web code, roughly speaking)
[10:58:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <0krix0> thanks
[10:59:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> thank you so much! i'll be out of your hair as soon as i have that estimate data point. and btw your project is amazing. i found out about it from ChatGPT as i asked what are the options for making your own wiki. and this one seemed the best to me by far out of the 6 options given.
[10:59:53] <BlankEclair>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Waki285-Bot/RWQ_backlog
[11:00:00] <BlankEclair>	 i feel like this should be somewhere more visible, but it's a thing
[11:00:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to getnormality> I'll be honest but Miraheze is the closest you'll get to independent wiki w/o being worried about servers, software and finances
[11:00:55] <BlankEclair>	 and you're welcome ^_^
[11:01:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> yes exactly!!! it's amazing. the other thing i was thinking of doing was basically making my own wiki from a tree on my user page on wikipedia, but... yeah lol
[11:02:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> i would pay money for what you guys are doing, no question. the project i want to do is very special to me and totally worth it. i shell out $160/yr for beast academy for my son, this is another one of those type things IMHO
[11:02:06] <BlankEclair>	 i'm still kinda surprised by the openness of miraheze--i've made an extension more or less for our wiki and it was allowed
[11:02:14] <BlankEclair>	 getnormality: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Fundraiser :)
[11:02:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths, replying to getnormality> There's a kofi
[11:03:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> Miraheze is supported by donations :pupCoffeeMH:
[11:04:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to getnormality> Thanks mate :) means a lot to hear that for us running the project
[11:04:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> based based based based based based based based
[11:04:52] <RhinosF1>	 BlankEclair: single wiki extensions & skins are allowed if that's the best & sometimes only way to do it
[11:05:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> how much do i have to pay you guys to be able to run a muscular responsive server 😉
[11:05:39] <BlankEclair>	 imagine singlehandedly funding miraheze
[11:05:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> i'm no Elon or Zuck but i have some spare change
[11:06:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to getnormality> So true bestie!
[11:06:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Haha
[11:08:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mooncloud> Miraheze is super cool
[11:08:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> too bad Jim Simons is dead i would call his ass up rn. no idea how i do that but i think he'd get you guys
[11:09:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> Quanta Magazine = best science magazine ever created and it's NOT close
[11:09:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> he gets intellectual culture and the infra needed for it. you guys are part of that
[11:10:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> so, maybe ask for a grant from Simons Foundation, idk
[11:10:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> play up your best research group wikis if you have any. seems like you have a lot of alt history and game stuff
[11:10:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mooncloud, replying to BlankEclair> Is the list of people on this page for one-time donations of 150+ or just 150+ over all time?
[11:10:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> We have some yeah
[11:10:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I know I’ve approved some requests for university ones
[11:10:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> something to consider for labster, but such orgs usually look at which wikis we host, and frankly speaking not a lot of them are super serious
[11:11:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> i wonder what Polymath runs on. probably self-hosted. Polymath is my role model
[11:11:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Technically thats what we are supposed to host per IRS non profit risks
[11:11:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Video game stuff just technical also falls under the umbrella
[11:11:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> my main wiki is about music artists 🤷
[11:12:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Mine is dead I mean about a minecraft game mod
[11:12:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> rosetta code is indie or w/ us tho?
[11:12:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I made another one on a specific 3D printing technique
[11:12:18] <BlankEclair>	 ✨ gay webcomics ✨
[11:12:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality, replying to pixldev> sure but what's wrong with research?
[11:12:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> But we never finished the project
[11:12:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to getnormality> Nothing at all!
[11:12:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> How do I change link colors
[11:12:51] <BlankEclair>	 tempette: what do you mean? as in the color of links of existing pages?
[11:12:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> It’s awesome to me to be able to provide an easy avenue for academics to document their works publicly
[11:13:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to tempette> `body a { color: ...; }`
[11:13:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Yes, links to other pages n stuff
[11:13:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> in CSS
[11:13:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> I'll trh
[11:13:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Try*
[11:13:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality, replying to getnormality> hey, guys? i was not joking. i'm not gonna give you like $10k at the drop of a hat but i might give you a decent amount
[11:13:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Especially considering how places like JSTOR and other libraries keep so much closed
[11:13:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to getnormality> Okay fine you got me curious I’ll check 😆
[11:13:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> [[Finances]]
[11:13:46] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finances
[11:13:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finances>
[11:13:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to getnormality> there are github, paypal and ko-fi options for donations
[11:13:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> i guess for $10k i could go self hosted but i'm lazy lmao
[11:13:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Thank you wiki bot
[11:14:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> i know there are options i want to know how much i have to pay to make a difference
[11:14:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> that's a question for our board members tbh
[11:14:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [1/4] Isn't there like 
[11:14:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [2/4] Hover
[11:14:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [3/4] Active
[11:14:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [4/4] Yk?
[11:14:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> From what I see the server hosting costs for one year (Feb24-Feb25) are     $4700.70
[11:14:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Note I’m no accountant
[11:14:58] <BlankEclair>	 tempette: a:hover { ... } and respectively for :active and :visited
[11:15:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality, replying to pixldev> i'm a lapsed academic / amateur researcher along with a buddy, but science works the same in uni or outside
[11:15:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> If you want, our treasurer @serverlessharej may have a better idea!
[11:15:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to tempette> [1/2] you add that there too, check online guides
[11:15:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to tempette> [2/2] don't expect me to write whole CSS
[11:15:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality, replying to pixldev> not too bad, now what we want to know is do we need to double this to get to, say, stackoverflow levels of responsiveness
[11:15:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> not that throwing money at it will automatically solve it necessarily
[11:16:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> god, a site like this with stackoverflow responsiveness... eeeeeeeeeeee
[11:16:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> we are all volunteers, nobody is getting paid here
[11:16:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to Wiki-Bot#2998> Interesting, I wonder what we spent $13.40 on postage
[11:16:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> finding more volunteers is indeed a quest tho
[11:16:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mooncloud> Big donor? :EpicFaceMH:
[11:17:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> moderate donor 🙂
[11:17:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Yeah. Assuming you mean server response, would be a matter of finding what’s causing the issues and fixing
[11:17:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mooncloud> Any donor is amazing
[11:17:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mooncloud> :pupCoffeeMH:
[11:17:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I also just noticed one of your messages was blocked by automod haha
[11:17:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> i'll prob throw a couple bennies on you guys as a show of good faith. i really appreciate the warm response to my questions here
[11:18:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality, replying to pixldev> yeah i posted a link to my substack in case you guys wanted to see what i'm all about. it's renormalize dot substack dot com
[11:18:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> As a note, users who haven’t #verify ed are blocked from link posting for spam control
[11:18:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I can post it here if you want
[11:18:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> oh i thought i verified. hmm
[11:18:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> what am i missing?
[11:19:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> oh i see now
[11:19:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Try clicking the button in verify again, if that fails I’d be more than happy to do a manual verification
[11:19:27] <BlankEclair>	 idea: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Waki285-Bot/RWQ_backlog on Special:RequestWiki?
[11:19:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> i didn't see it lol. we'll see how it goes
[11:19:42] <BlankEclair>	 i feel like this lil box thing (i just realized that i have no idea what it's called) should be more visible
[11:19:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to BlankEclair> Can hardly see an issue
[11:19:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to BlankEclair> User box?
[11:20:07] <BlankEclair>	 hmm yeah i guess, but it's not really for users
[11:20:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> [1/2] alright, here's the post that represents the start of my interest in Eristic Psychology, which pretty much doesn't exist today except in the minds of myself and the founder Rex Riepe
[11:20:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> [2/2] https://renormalize.substack.com/p/the-eristics-test-the-scariest-personality
[11:21:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> i've gotten a flood of responses, positive and negative, to what i've done here, and i'm resolved to either shore up Eristics scientifically or find out why it doesn't work
[11:21:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> that's why i'm making the wiki, to facilitate that process of discovery with others interested in the topic
[11:22:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> Eristics changed my life for the much much better, or so it seems to me
[11:22:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> if it really works, i want to offer that opportunity to others
[11:22:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> but of course it's very important to do sound science before you foist stuff on the world, so that's the step i'm at now
[11:23:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> this is just a cool theory with some anecdata supporting it, but many scientific theories start that way
[11:25:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to getnormality> That’s true. I mean name one great mine who wasn’t deemed a quack or a heretic when they started
[11:25:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> ahhh my bros 💕
[11:26:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> [1/2] i argued with my best friend IN COMPANY SLACK ON WORK HOURS about how heliocentric theory was crapped on when it first started, because it was objectively predictively inferior to the much more sophisticated ptolemaic theories https://metarationality.com/remodeling
[11:26:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> [2/2] btw David Chapman is one of my heros
[11:27:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality, replying to pixldev> i see myself as potentially one of those weirdos that cured themselves with some crazy thing, figured out the way he did it, then cured others. i'm gonna ask ChatGPT for examples of this from medicine
[11:29:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> [1/3] > Dr. Barry Marshall: An Australian physician who, along with Dr. Robin Warren, discovered that the bacterium Helicobacter pylori causes peptic ulcers. To prove the link, Marshall drank a culture of H. pylori and developed gastritis, which he later cured using antibiotics. This self-experimentation was crucial in demonstrating the bacterial cause of ulcers and earned them the No
[11:29:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> [2/3] bel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 2005.
[11:29:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> [3/3] lol i figured #1 example would be this guy
[11:29:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> except i cured something that was fixed within me from birth, not something i infected myself with (at least not deliberately)
[11:30:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Is it possible to only let specific people access your wiki?
[11:30:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268531259240484966/image.png?ex=66acc34c&is=66ab71cc&hm=ad245dd08f527ff4d54c8ba31d51fd3060d4eae8376657195fa2650bb03fab98&
[11:31:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> [1/2] i'll pipe down now, others need to use the chat, but thanks so much for everything. i'll keep an eye out for a follow-up on the funds needed to help the site get more reliable and responsive. i wish i could help but i'm not a web dev or software infra person. although maybe i'll become one if it matters to me that much to get this website running nicely. might be a good way to g
[11:31:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <getnormality> [2/2] et experience.
[11:32:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to tempette> Yup! Just set it to private in ManageWiki code settings, Have people visit the main page to make a local account and grant them the member role
[11:34:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Oh alright!
[11:40:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Oh fudge I think I might have to make a create account link thing
[11:40:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to tempette> Hm?
[11:41:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to tempette> user can register anywhere on miraheze
[11:43:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> accounts are global, it's just private wikis require the role
[11:45:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> I want mine to be private but have my one friend have access to it
[11:45:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> yeah
[11:45:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> so
[11:45:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> make them register on Miraheze
[11:45:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> like you did
[11:46:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> then they need to visit your wiki, they will see only main page at first
[11:46:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> after that you can give them member role
[11:46:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> to see the rest of the wiki
[11:54:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Where do I see members?
[11:54:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Like I can just give em
[11:56:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to tempette> [[Special:UserRights]]
[11:56:24] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:UserRights
[11:56:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:UserRights>
[11:56:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> After they make a local account by visiting the main page
[11:56:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to Wiki-Bot#2998> On your wiki
[11:58:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Thx
[12:04:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awing_ding> Is there a way to easily revert all recent modification / modification of a user ?
[12:04:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> There’s a script
[12:04:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Don’t know which
[12:05:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Nuke maybe
[12:12:07] <BlankEclair>	 nuke is an extension, but it deletes all (recently) created pages by a user yes
[12:16:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> https://furrnations.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_language
[12:16:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> Houston we have an trouble
[12:17:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> someone can fix this template?
[12:18:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awing_ding> It's wikipedia template, it will be hard
[12:20:23] <BlankEclair>	 you need mw.wikibase
[12:20:41] <BlankEclair>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Wikibase_Client
[12:20:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awing_ding> Maybe delete field you don't need in the template ?
[12:21:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awing_ding> Like do you really need the endangered language project module ?
[12:25:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon., replying to BlankEclair> I enabled it
[12:25:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> but look
[12:25:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268545141204062330/image.png?ex=66acd03a&is=66ab7eba&hm=765c92c4d340b7d9ba445ee2560a8e766729446f99f15993b7ed80447ebbaade&
[12:25:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> Incompatible with semanticmediawiki
[12:26:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to awing_ding> nuke has the capability as pixel mentioned
[12:27:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> how I could set up WikibaseClient
[12:27:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268545669337972787/image.png?ex=66acd0b8&is=66ab7f38&hm=207329d9481f9a02a9e35aa5eab13038478d3130a730e65ff03238633a655470&
[12:29:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> in repository URL what I should add
[12:33:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> nvm
[12:33:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268547229686304838/image.png?ex=66acd22c&is=66ab80ac&hm=89a2d39c59ed20119f2aa96da22976c0f1249f61bf60b690d21345d364c58b63&
[12:33:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> The template is fixed
[12:34:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> but there's a trouble
[12:34:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelilacdragon.> Revival[[Category:{{{revived-category}}}]]
[12:34:24] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7brevived-category https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:%7b%7b%7brevived-category%7d%7d%7d
[12:57:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] that CSS book mentioned in @getnormality article actually explains what I said here twice in the last two days lol
[12:57:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268553289247625227/IMG_20240801_155534.jpg?ex=66acd7d0&is=66ab8650&hm=b8f559a5abf50c7582934f584f29c5dfa30f784cc84b62d1908b6b8c682bdf6b&
[13:05:52] <Guest96>	 Can you please confirm what is the difference if I tick or untick the button saying 'mark this wiki as private' option?
[13:06:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to Guest96> private means only main page will be visible to public view, the rest content will be accessible only by you and users you will give member role
[13:07:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you can layer make wiki public, if you want
[13:07:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> *later
[13:07:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> it's a check option in wiki's core settings
[13:16:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <navy1484> is there any way to have my wikis style or skin be viewed by people as the vector legacy (2010) thing without them having to change the appearance? just like, forcing it to be like that no matter what the viewers preference-appearance settings are
[13:16:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> You can set the default yes
[13:17:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> They’ll be able to change to other skins if they wish
[13:17:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Unless you just disable all other skins
[13:18:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <navy1484> 👍
[13:18:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <navy1484> thanks
[13:18:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awing_ding> Is there any api rate limitation ?
[13:36:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelazysquid> If I update a gadget from default to default and hidden will it be re-enabled for all users?
[13:37:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awing_ding> [1/5] This DPL code (+nuke extension)
[13:37:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awing_ding> [2/5] ```
[13:37:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awing_ding> [3/5] titleregexp = .*
[13:37:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awing_ding> [4/5] namespace = Bottest
[13:37:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awing_ding> [5/5] ``` will delete everypage in the Bottest ns am i right ?
[13:42:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelazysquid, replying to awing_ding> [1/2] Yeah, but user groups can have permissions to have a higher ratelimit or ignore it entirely
[13:42:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelazysquid, replying to awing_ding> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268564455764000868/image.png?ex=66ace237&is=66ab90b7&hm=f2e5e33a93df1148bf57555d338f26e050d8fb1c0d658bd36673fbbe65d7fec9&
[15:02:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> @brandon.wm what else do we need to move the contact to mainspace
[15:02:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <brandon.wm, replying to pixldev> going to make any final edits shortly and then I’ll move
[15:02:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Bet
[15:03:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to brandon.wm> CC @tedkalashnikov for the contact page for you to link on PHIGHTING!
[15:42:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <homosapiensapien> for custom domains, are we allowed to put hyphens in the url
[15:42:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <homosapiensapien> like xyz-xyz.wiki
[15:42:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <homosapiensapien> instead of xyzxyz.wiki
[15:43:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to homosapiensapien> i think so
[15:43:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> fairly sure that restriction is present since subdomain is also basically the database name
[15:43:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> would want to confirm though
[15:44:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <homosapiensapien, replying to pixldev> ohhh
[15:44:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <homosapiensapien> yeah
[15:44:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> @bluemoon0332 / Orange_Star?
[15:44:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> there's no restrictions on our part regarding custom domains
[15:44:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> any domain you can buy you can use for Miraheze
[15:45:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <homosapiensapien, replying to bluemoon0332> alright cool
[15:45:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <homosapiensapien> thanks for your help
[15:56:09] <letgo3942>	 hello did you know that i was blocked
[15:56:49] <letgo3942>	 i didnt do anything wrong
[15:57:02] <letgo3942>	 it was the hacker fault
[15:57:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> If you’ve been blocked on a local wiki, you need to contact that wiki’s staff
[15:57:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> We can’t assist
[15:58:11] <letgo3942>	 i wanna brought my account back
[15:58:45] <letgo3942>	 i lost ton of channels
[15:58:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Was your account was locked by Global Admins or Stewards?
[15:59:04] <letgo3942>	 it was in discord
[16:00:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Okay. If you’re account was specifically blocked from our discord, I can provide you a form to appeal to. If it’s locked by Discord TS, you’re gonna need to appeal to them
[16:00:33] <letgo3942>	 also cant comment to admin
[16:00:41] <letgo3942>	 due to blocked
[16:00:59] <letgo3942>	 by admin or idk
[16:01:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Is your issue a ban from our discord or from all of discord
[16:01:59] <letgo3942>	 yes
[16:02:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> As much as I love that bit, unfortunately yes is not an answer in this case
[16:02:24] <letgo3942>	 got hijacked by spam hacker
[16:02:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Can you login to your discord and use it normally besides our server
[16:02:51] <letgo3942>	 yeah what answer
[16:03:04] <letgo3942>	 i can
[16:03:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Okay.
[16:03:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> In that case, feel free to use this form go appeal your ban. https://dyno.gg/form/b2094317
[16:03:43] <letgo3942>	 thx
[16:04:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Course
[16:20:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <brandon.wm> @pixldev done with contact us if you think it looks good
[16:25:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> ill see
[16:29:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> u got contexts? I just lost my job to my a family
[16:29:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> huh
[16:31:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to songngu.xyz> this
[16:32:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> just nevermind, I have to apply for another job and was through some emotional damage, so I haven't think clear yet
[16:33:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> sorry about that man
[16:33:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> hope you'll find it soon
[16:34:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> let's just say my parents should take the blame this time
[16:34:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> but hey
[16:35:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> there is opportunities
[16:36:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ribose_carb> Anyone else getting 502?
[16:39:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> try refresh the page yet?
[16:40:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ribose_carb> Works now. Weird
[16:40:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> 502/503 happen sometimes
[16:44:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> used to be more frequently, but now not that much
[16:44:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> yeah, used to be muuuuch worse lol
[16:44:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> better servers now
[16:46:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Rip
[16:46:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> im remembering labsters top 5 ships page
[16:46:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> They should be been coller about http codes
[16:46:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Miraheze ❤️ 502s
[16:46:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> ye
[16:46:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Error codes should be negative
[16:47:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to pixldev> that's now my official NOTP
[16:48:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> I may apply for WM later this year, as the resignation has just happen too recently, might just as well helping out with tasks
[16:50:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> love to have the perms there (at Phorge)
[16:51:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> wiki managers don't have any special phorge permissions
[16:52:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> only infra does
[16:52:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to bluemoon0332> I see, but actually mentioning the trusted role
[16:52:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <homosapiensapien, replying to ribose_carb> i got it on phorge yesterday
[16:53:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <homosapiensapien> but i think it fixed itself
[16:53:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Most do
[16:53:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> just the servers being moody
[17:03:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> and just noticed, but the last #meetings was terminated forcefully. Have we got an date yet?
[17:04:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Not yet😔
[17:04:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> A lot of our volunteers are either busy, on vacation, and a few in bad family situations with relatives
[17:07:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jseiler_00500> [1/4] I have installed/activated the WikidataPageBanner extension, but it does not show a banner on the selected page when I add "{{PAGEBANNER:BFR Banner.jpg}}". The image is correctly uploaded and shows if I use"[[File:BFR Banner.jpg]]". I have also tried the example image from wiki commons, "{{PAGEBANNER:Grand_canyon.jpg}}", which also doesn't show, so I'm assuming it's not an imag
[17:07:23] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/PAGEBANNER:Template:BFR_Banner.jpg https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:BFR_Banner.jpghttps://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:BFR_Banner.jpg
[17:07:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jseiler_00500> [2/4] e size issue. I have also created a blank template PAGEBANNER page, but still no joy. 
[17:07:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jseiler_00500> [3/4] Is there something not enabled that I should enable? Is there an issue with this extension? 
[17:07:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jseiler_00500> [4/4] Any help is appreciated,
[17:07:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:BFR_Banner.jpg?action=edit&redlink=1>
[17:07:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> [1/2] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/PAGEBANNER:BFR_Banner.jpg?action=edit&redlink=1>
[17:07:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> [2/2] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/PAGEBANNER:Grand_canyon.jpg?action=edit&redlink=1>
[17:10:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> [[mw:Extension:WikidataPageBanner]]
[17:10:41] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikidataPageBanner
[17:10:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikidataPageBanner>
[17:12:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to jseiler_00500> put the wiki link here
[17:19:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <terabuildsstuff> any way to have the mobile view on pc?
[17:20:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <terabuildsstuff> I'm trying to pinpoint why some page look completely wrong on mobile and cant find the common points
[17:21:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to terabuildsstuff> using mobile frontend or not?
[17:21:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <terabuildsstuff> nope, nuked it
[17:22:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jseiler_00500, replying to songngu.xyz> https://brockvillerailfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Engine_Series
[17:22:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> inspect element > somewhere probably in the top right theres a way to toggle mobile
[17:23:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> or make browser windowed
[17:27:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mmphosis> FYI rosettacode.org has not been working for days.
[17:31:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelazysquid> Is there a way to set $wgPopupsTextExtractsIntroOnly via ManageWiki, or should I open a phorge ticket?
[17:32:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to jseiler_00500> first image wasn't uploaded to your wiki
[17:32:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> you have to upload the file first, then you can use it
[17:32:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to mmphosis> MacFan4000 @bluemoon0332  could yall look into this?
[17:35:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jseiler_00500, replying to songngu.xyz> Sorry, it is BRF Bannery not BFR Banner. Image is there.
[17:36:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> re: rosetta - `Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBLanguageError`
[17:36:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> did their admins reached to us somewhere?
[17:36:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> if it's been going for days
[17:36:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I haven't seen anything in general or tech
[17:50:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> @mmphosis you need to #verify to send links
[17:51:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <carhles> Is there any way I can protect my wiki from being closed since I am going to boot camp and will be away for a minimum of two months?
[17:52:46] <RhinosF1>	 Yup
[17:53:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Open a request on [[SN]] and they'll add an exemption
[17:53:04] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SN
[17:53:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Where is the both
[17:53:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SN>
[17:53:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Bot
[17:53:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> There we go
[17:53:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <carhles> Thank you
[17:54:30] <MacFan4000>	 Wikimedia\\Rdbms\\DBLanguageError: Table name component contains unexpected quote or dot character
[17:54:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mmphosis> https://discord.com/channels/1011262808001880065/1011262809172103300
[17:57:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to mmphosis> Link doesn't work
[17:58:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to carhles> Happy to help, reach out if there's anything else we can help with.
[17:58:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <carhles, replying to rhinosf1> Appreciate it 😁
[18:18:45] <MacFan4000>	 not sure what is causing the error, stack trace isn't super helpful
[18:19:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> ladies and gentlemen (and other)
[18:19:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to MacFan4000> mediawiki at its finest
[18:20:05] <MacFan4000>	 prior to https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/commit/f3607d6512cdc337bd9cbbd3cc94d71e06c78cb6#diff-1fe64612d9aaf13752c7cb8d48296bc6f25c533cfe665f4202688e0217bae5c0 the error message actually included the table name, but now it doesn't
[18:20:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> So
[18:20:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> they
[18:20:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> removed
[18:20:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> vaulable troubleshooting information
[18:21:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> from the error message
[18:21:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> ja?
[18:21:12] <MacFan4000>	 yup
[18:21:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Certified WMF moment
[18:22:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jseiler_00500, replying to songngu.xyz> The image file is uploaded, BRF Banner.jpg, the template call is correct, "{{PAGEBANNER:BRF Banner.jpg}}", but still no joy
[18:22:53] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/PAGEBANNER:Template:BRF_Banner.jpg 
[18:22:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/PAGEBANNER:BRF_Banner.jpg?action=edit&redlink=1>
[18:32:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> image upload going a tab slow rn
[18:55:36] <MacFan4000>	 actually, taking a closer look at the stack trace, I see that it is caused by SMW
[18:55:57] <MacFan4000>	 seems like the upstream are already aware of it
[18:55:58] <MacFan4000>	 https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/issues/5634
[18:56:21] <MacFan4000>	 so not much we can do other than disabling the ext
[18:57:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> MacFan4000: don't disable it
[18:57:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> Disabling it clears the SMW tables
[18:57:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> at least according to ManageWiki
[18:57:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> but I'm not sure how much I believe that
[18:57:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> And here I thought Cargo was supposed to be the Semantic problem child
[18:58:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> that's why I don't feel like trying any of db extensions lol
[18:58:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> If I had a use I’d definitely use Wikibase or Cargo
[18:58:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> SMW is the only one with such a warning
[18:58:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I frankly still don’t understand exactly what SMW does
[18:59:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to bluemoon0332> yeah but the troubles either way :squint:
[18:59:24] <MacFan4000>	 There is an active PR that at least one person says works
[19:00:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> MacFan4000: Void mentioned it earlier today
[19:00:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> since we don't have the capability to properly deploy patches it's not very useful until upstream merges it
[19:01:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> ^ @mmphosis
[20:36:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cynicalsix> if a request is marked as need more details and then i provide whats asked, do i just need to update the comment and then im good?
[20:41:20] <RhinosF1>	 Yup
[21:36:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to carhles> this span will not result in closure under current policy
[21:37:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <carhles> I just want to make sure in case I can't edit until February. My basic training ends in October but since I am going to advances training afterwards there's a chance I wouldn't be able to.
[21:37:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> it will not be closed until 4 months, so unless you have no time until ait and/or it is a long one or recycling is involved, you should be fine, and in any case it will remain intact up to a year, if it is not modified whatsoever by anyone in that time
[21:38:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> no time between basic and ait mind you, and iirc ait is more flexible in terms of personal electronics
[21:38:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <carhles> Yeah I looked and they give out laptops at AIT, depending on where you go
[21:38:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> and you could always ask someone to make an edit in that tome period beforehand
[21:38:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> probably not until somewhat later in but it all depends not just on branch but partially on mos I believe
[21:38:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> yeah, one edit in a few months would set the whole thing farther down the line
[21:39:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <carhles> good idea
[21:39:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <carhles> I end my training in early Feb so it would be cutting close but I could get someone to edit
[21:40:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> one edit two months later would be tight but essentially straighten up any dormancy policy issue
[21:40:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> this is a case though where if that's tricky I'd be inclined to do a temp exemption for idk, 6 months/until return
[21:41:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> wish that 'temp exemption' was more of a thing
[21:41:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <carhles> and if I can use my phone at the barracks during AIT then i should be back in late Oct
[21:41:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> you should have free reign of the phone if not immediately then at least later in when you're settled
[21:41:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <carhles> If thats the case then the dormancy exemption is probably unnecessary
[21:42:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> it's probably possible during basic if circumstances align as the services become more flexible about calling with personal devices on sunday but that would be naughty and editing a wiki is probably not something you'd have as a priority at that point anyway
[21:43:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> good luck btw, train immediately if you aren't already
[21:43:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <carhles> yeah haha and i would have to hope i'd have data service in OK. my recruiter said something about being able to use my phone on Sundays but I don't know how true that is
[21:44:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <carhles> I am, i ship out the 6th and go to the base on the 5th
[21:44:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> it's true*, but all comes down to the training battalion
[21:44:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> what fort/branch, if that's not too sensitive?
[21:44:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <carhles> nah idc
[21:44:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <carhles> Im going to Fort Sill via Gregg-Adams and im Army 91B (wheeled vehicle mechanic)
[21:45:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> no clue
[21:46:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <carhles> yeah idk. the most information i have is my brother who went to basic at Sill like 12 years ago
[21:46:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> so as a rule of thumb I believe across the board yes, phones on sunday, but if your group fucks up that's a thing they can play with so I'd assume not necessarily every weekend, and not necessarily for long
[21:46:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> and strict guidelines for what can be done
[21:47:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> lot different from 12 years I can say, my data is from a few years ago
[21:50:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <carhles> well i will be there for 10 weeks so hopefully i can get some calling in
[21:50:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <carhles> and i can report back how much has changed lol
[21:50:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> indeed
[21:50:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> totally different location so it will be interesting to hear what's different too
[21:53:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mx.lilasekhmet> [1/2] anyone know what this error means?
[21:53:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mx.lilasekhmet> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268688047071825950/image.png?ex=66ad5551&is=66ac03d1&hm=7cdc1a61181c9849cb03f8417b44cecba13d29658981154cde19b3f6894841bd&
[21:54:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mx.lilasekhmet> I also keep getting "error 502: bad gateway" ):
[22:02:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to mx.lilasekhmet> _screams in tech_
[22:03:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> @originalauthority @orduin either of you wanna slap this
[22:03:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> Can you copy out the full text of the error message?
[22:05:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> ```[7aac7d0a97cbf3760c000552] 2024-08-01 21:52:08: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError"```
[22:05:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mx.lilasekhmet> thanks Aracham
[22:06:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mx.lilasekhmet> I've been trying to get rid of all lvl 2 headings on the wiki, going a few categories at a time, and uhh. massregex Does Not like me
[22:06:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> No worries, 3.5 hours into a 4 hour training, so I'm looking for any excuse to distract.
[22:07:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mx.lilasekhmet, replying to notaracham> damn, good luck. You're nearly there though!! Well done!!
[22:11:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mx.lilasekhmet> it's also really annoying me that it keeps thinking pages don't exist when they do, and when I know the expression is correct because a) canada wrote it and they're a regex genius, and b) the regex was working before now
[22:11:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mx.lilasekhmet> but I gtg to sleep now ): tty tmrw
[22:12:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> looks to be a bug in MassEditRegex where they've somehow managed to get a `LIMIT -1` sent to mysql
[22:14:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mx.lilasekhmet, replying to orduin> So, wait, it's not something I'm doing wrong? that's never happened before!
[22:14:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to orduin> Another problem child?
[22:21:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mx.lilasekhmet> [1/2] what. what does this mean. what doesn't exist. massedit???
[22:21:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mx.lilasekhmet> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268695110070042777/image.png?ex=66ad5be5&is=66ac0a65&hm=7296b3f456c960e393d23cc78eb06721320488a4eb5bb4a29fa86d5751e41fe0&
[22:21:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mx.lilasekhmet> okay, now I really am sleeping. gnitee
[22:25:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> Upstream task at <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T371646>
[22:27:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to mx.lilasekhmet> yeeeaaa you may wanna look into [[WP:AWB]] or [[WP:JWB]] if it fits your usecase
[22:27:25] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WP:AWB https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WP:JWB
[22:27:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> [1/2] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AWB>
[22:27:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> [2/2] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:JWB>
[22:29:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mx.lilasekhmet, replying to pixldev> oh yeah I think I downloaded the first one
[22:49:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> hi, I'd like to thank the stewards for being so responsive to messages on <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/(Un)deletions>. As far as I can see, it takes very little time from someone posting a message on this page until it's resolved. It's a great service. 👍
[23:02:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cynicalsix> trying to import a wiki and keep getting 504'd, should i just keep trying to send or go through request import? the xml is only 362kb so im not sure why it keeps failing :y
[23:12:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to avengium> [1/2] Heh, you caught me on a run of requests, but thanks for the kind words. 
[23:12:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to avengium> [2/2] Very happy we can measure in hours and days vs weeks for request handling nowadays.
[23:13:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to cynicalsix> There's some larger infra challenges being worked on by technology team that are impacting globally right now, likely culprit.
[23:13:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cynicalsix> oh okay then hehe. ill be patient
[23:39:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <digitalkandra> Can someone remind me how to make a dump of all Wiki content, including MW settings, page content, S:MW settings, etc?
[23:40:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <disgustedorite> [1/2] users are reporting seeing this intermittantly
[23:40:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <disgustedorite> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1268715047975129159/image.png?ex=66ad6e77&is=66ac1cf7&hm=a63cf627403a7097de4e5ff515f605e902d663478c078c5d4594d0ce0a171730&
[23:42:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emicraftnoob, replying to disgustedorite> also happened to mehttps://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/808001911868489748/1268628781464027268
[23:43:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emicraftnoob> but it doesn't care because it went away
[23:45:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> db connection errors are a bit different from 502s
[23:45:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> definitely something up though
[23:46:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emicraftnoob> miraheze servers classic tradition