[00:06:48] ...Hi? [00:07:19] ...hello? [00:07:31] ...IRC is dull... [00:07:56] it works though [00:08:06] and hilariously i have less complaints about it than matrix [00:08:19] Just another thing to the longggggg list of things I monitor on the internet [00:08:32] hmm, i wonder how many things i monitor [00:08:53] irc and matrix (handled by laptop), email (handled by phone), and rss (handled by laptop and phone) [00:09:18] Phorge? Hello? You're there for every question [00:09:29] i suppose how many things i automatically monitor [00:09:33] I monitor like 5 wikis [00:09:42] i check meta rc, rainverse wiki rc, and phorge manually [00:09:48] I don't have the RAM to count [00:12:22] However, the fact that we don't get avatars is evil [00:12:24] boo IRC [00:13:04] tfw your main priority is no avatars rather than no built-in chat history [00:13:49] switch to Discord if you find IRC dull 🤷 [00:14:01] and that ^ lol [00:14:13] meh, I don't want to set up all the account stuff [00:14:20] I understand it has its purposes, but if you want a different interface thats a solution [00:14:49] nickserv be here like 👁️👄👁️ [00:14:57] though i suppose an account is not required on irc [00:15:26] Just the ability to spell pawn shop 😎 [00:15:32] 75 [00:19:13] Okay weel I'll just be answering Miraheze questions if I happen to have the luck to see one [00:20:45] Wait how do you protect your account? Anyone can log in right? Uhhhhhhhhhhhh 😥 [00:20:55] you use nickserv [00:21:13] try /msg NickServ HELP [00:21:51] when you try to change your nick to a nick owned by someone else, you'll get a warning to change your nick to something else for 30s (by default, you can decrease or increase the wait time) [00:22:27] for an example, try /nick BlankEclaire (leading e) [00:25:54] Registered woohoo [00:26:09] congrats, your ip is no longer exposed xD [00:26:29] Wait... It was exposed...? [00:26:41] 😥That better be a joke [00:26:46] if you're not authenticated, then your host is your ip [00:26:55] [1/2] half of the websites I make look like this [00:26:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1269089077827866674/IMG_4482.png?ex=66aecace&is=66ad794e&hm=0cabd3ff5241b8bcc8227a013dec334cb60f4621fce308aeb03426de5cf68821& [00:27:06] so I have no fucking idea what a flexbox is [00:27:10] when i whois'd you before you registed, i got [03/08/2024 10:10] [Whois] PawnShop75 is ~PawnShop7@ ([https://web.libera.chat] PawnShop75) [00:27:39] you might want to ask those who have access to the public irc logs to scrub your ip :sweatsmile: [00:27:46] I don't understand and that's okay! [00:28:02] oh nevermind the public irc logs don't log ips [00:29:24] I do not know `align: right;` I only know 70 nested tables [00:30:34] if you want to look at the unholy source code of that site btw it’s at http://198.50.213.215:8141/bjd/index.html [00:31:29] So, is everything said here relayed to the Discord and vice versa? [00:31:37] yes [00:32:17] Cool, so I can say "Hi from Narjena Academy!" from here and it will go to the faraway land of Discord? Neat! [00:32:32] i missed that reference but yes [00:33:06] found it: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Naranja_Academy [00:33:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1269090726390530118/IMG_4493.png?ex=66aecc57&is=66ad7ad7&hm=50845d1dcad3bb67bbc8e48282f992ff7315ecb49cf3a2aedb0c994d2a71d952& [00:33:28] lolololol you'll only get it if you either watch the JP run of Pokemon Horizons or own Pokemon Scarlet or Violet [00:33:47] Making obscure refrences are my specialty [00:33:50] get ready [00:33:53] this is what squarespace wishes it was [00:33:55] > watch the JP run of Pokemon Horizons [00:34:03] smh just learn japanese then you can play it yourself xD [00:34:17] I own Pokemon Scarlet [00:34:33] (i... just realized that i have no idea what pokemon horizons is) [00:34:46] ... [00:35:11] it's an anime, oops [00:35:13] If you live in the UK, it's free on BBC iPlayer, in the US it's on Netflix [00:35:15] s/play/watch/ [00:35:57] It's on Cable I think if you live in Japan [00:38:58] Pokemon Horizons is the pinnacle of the Pokemon franchise [00:39:08] watch it at all costs [00:40:31] Miraheze being OOC [00:56:29] [1/2] How do I add these border things? [00:56:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1269096520842481805/Screenshot_20240803_075602_Chrome.jpg?ex=66aed1bd&is=66ad803d&hm=d1c5aebf0c6f27f727b469a4f7350c1f60f8e0e51afe616cf88be30bac9b82c0& [00:58:47] tempette: https://pizzatower.wiki/wiki/Pizza_Tower_Wiki:Main_Page/styles.css (and corrosponding html) [01:01:13] I'm not sure what to do with his [01:01:15] This* [01:01:26] Like is there files I have to make for it? [01:01:44] you want to copy the css, and then reuse the html classes [01:01:56] (i think i just said a nothing burger...) [01:02:01] lemme try to get it working independently [01:03:11] Oh how will you do that? [01:05:04] public test wiki [01:11:36] tempette: https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/User:BlankEclair/Sandbox/IRC_Request_2024-08-03 [01:12:29] I don't think it's letting me access it's code [01:13:00] huh? [01:14:08] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1269100962719731804/Screenshot_20240803_081305_Chrome.jpg?ex=66aed5e0&is=66ad8460&hm=878b8403229a098a4c178fcb3a517d682d610bf26f0a5fad8b0abe82c540beb2& [01:14:11] Look [01:14:11] (Internet error, sorry for the message delay) [01:14:32] view source [01:14:49] (in the toast below) [01:14:52] or https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/User:BlankEclair/Sandbox/IRC_Request_2024-08-03?action=edit [01:14:54] I'm on mobile/I don't see the button [01:15:25] that link should work tho [01:16:33] Oh alr [01:18:19] How would I make a custom one? [01:25:18] So they've created a custom image using art skills and editing tools, then used that as a frame via css. [01:25:52] I have art skills [01:25:58] I don't know about editing tools- [01:26:08] art skills and art program i guess [01:26:32] Oh alright [01:26:35] If you're looking for more specific details, may be worth following up with the pizza tower folks to get more specific guidance. [01:26:49] I'll see if I can talk to the Italians [01:27:31] We've got a broad depth of skills here, but we're admittedly more wiki/css focused than art focused [01:27:57] Legroom has contributed specifically and may have more insight for you when they're back online [01:28:20] yeah, i have little skill in the "make things look good" department [01:29:01] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1269104708685926422/image0.gif?ex=66aed95d&is=66ad87dd&hm=9a8de2bcd1a2beaa95d2b953a1a0079c9a083c31c39630aebfdc9f4146a3b3a5& [01:56:13] This is why i would never make it as a front end dev [01:56:29] heh same [04:04:00] [1/2] Hi :3 [04:04:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1269143709883043913/cat-funny.mov?ex=66aefdaf&is=66adac2f&hm=46193ce767753703957ee04547725ba501899e8328350cce0a373b8a5cb5848d& [04:25:02] does anyone know why there isnt a “Forgot your password?” line in mobile [04:38:30] Uk designers ran out of money [04:38:50] is this actual info [04:49:49] iirc front end devs normally just get a design from the ui designer and have to translate it into css [04:50:07] but you still have to make it look good with the tools provided by css [05:04:04] Yes [05:10:24] is it ok if I put one of those flag counter thingies on my wiki’s home page [05:10:31] or would that be considered a tracker [05:16:49] Not, it isn't [05:22:35] [1/2] How do I add that TV thing, [05:22:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1269163484873228380/Screenshot_20240803_122136_Chrome.jpg?ex=66af101a&is=66adbe9a&hm=6605757288b58b743a26162f96b02326873a51f03db286f2921023c385e39ef9& [05:22:42] [1/2] I wanna have that but with: [05:22:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1269163515076149301/Untitled268_0000-28-23_1_20240803122007.png?ex=66af1021&is=66adbea1&hm=ae91f285ac024c4699246d1003f57d320eace8c78532e60334cd26ae4649eecb& [05:23:35] it's just part of the wiki logo file https://static.miraheze.org/pizzatowerwiki/7/73/PTWiki-Logo2023.png [05:24:07] Where should I go to add it then? [05:25:24] your wiki's `Special:ManageWiki/settings` [05:25:50] Special:ManageWiki/settings#mw-section-styling, look for the bit about logo [05:26:02] specifically`$wgLogo` [05:28:47] Alr [05:28:49] Thx [05:35:24] [1/2] It changed the top left one [05:35:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1269166710553055252/Screenshot_20240803_123516_Chrome.jpg?ex=66af131b&is=66adc19b&hm=f4c6f71f08deb34f4c53a037c207f6bb992f268aa94ed332d713e374f3dd9f2b& [05:35:38] I was hoping it'd add the thing like the TV in the pizza tower wiki [05:35:54] the tv part of their logo is simply just part of the logo image itself [05:36:07] you'd have to manually edit the image if you want that on your wiki [05:36:17] Alright how do I do that [05:36:20] you know how its not there then right? [05:45:03] I think I know how to do it, but it requires some knowledge on how to use DevTools [06:16:12] [1/5] border image was pain in the ass for me, SKL set it up here [06:16:12] [2/5] again, I repeat - Pizza Tower Wiki's CSS is too complicated for beginner admins, you gotta start learning HTML/CSS/wikitext it for real if you want to make it work on your place [06:16:13] [3/5] and frankly, I'm not the kind of person to code the entire things for others/wikis I don't directly work w/ [06:16:13] [4/5] and once again - look of the wiki is a secondary thing, the wiki needs articles first and foremost [06:16:13] [5/5] if you're interested only in designing, I strongly suggest to start reading w3school tutorials [06:16:30] Alr then [06:27:08] you mean from Wikimedia Commons? [06:28:27] [1/2] we are using different skin called Timeless (hence why logo is big), and we modified this skin heavily [06:28:27] [2/2] you are using default skin called Vector 2022 [06:28:44] O h [06:30:39] no like a little visitor counter that shows how many people from each country have visited [06:30:57] ah, that's I don't know [06:31:02] ok [06:31:24] I’ll wait for a concrete, official answer from someone else, thanks [06:44:26] [1/2] does anyone know how to like uhh [06:44:27] [2/2] have similar logo placement to vector-2022 but with the layout of vector... like. hold on let me go ms paint mode [06:45:06] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1269184254139695104/image.png?ex=66af2372&is=66add1f2&hm=07cab368d61e67b08ca768a7cde6d16a541798a85f52288a7006f8730807b6f5& [06:53:07] actually nvm found what i wanted heehee [07:14:59] Umm if anyone can tell me why doesn't support `counter(my-sec-counter,bengali)` this css property [07:33:09] I've been experiencing some slow page loads and 502s the last week or so, is anyone else getting this? Checked my internet speed a few times and it is fast. Some pages will take 10 seconds or more to load, others are almost instant. Has anything happened because everything was running fast before, now it is just slow. [07:36:52] yeah it's all being pretty slow [07:37:00] [1/2] and it's probably because of this [07:37:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1269197314325745674/1722670618190.png?ex=66af2f9c&is=66adde1c&hm=07ca316ae04c173d109ea953bc9a172d07bb062af19af238b91978c5e01ad3ee& [07:38:17] How do you make quotes [07:39:06] [1/2] Somewhere in here [07:39:06] [2/2] https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Formatting [07:39:55] using template styles or in common.css? [07:40:21] although I don't know this rule [07:42:57] Ok, thanks. Wondered if it was affecting just a few people or everyone. [07:48:26] Guys can someone please help me make a timeline [07:49:00] Elaborate? [07:49:47] [1/2] Like the tag#timeline template [07:49:47] [2/2] I need to make a list of rulers for a thing [07:49:54] I can’t understand how to use it [07:49:58] And get colors and stuff [07:56:53] Can you get yourself verified in #verify first? [08:07:32] it's an extension iirc [08:07:49] and is quite finicky [08:51:27] Load Balancing™ [08:52:04] verify first, then you can send the link to what you've got and i'll try and help [09:03:28] [1/3] Verified [09:03:28] [2/3] And this is the timeline I currently have, but I need it to reflect the table [09:03:29] [3/3] https://maluswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/List_of_Malusian_Heads_of_State [09:12:12] ok lemme take a look rq [09:14:04] what i'd suggest doing is making a template of both next to each other and just passing the values through that, then you'd only have to update one [09:57:22] [1/3] fellas, a CSS, or perhaps JS, question which I got while working on my templates [09:57:22] [2/3] any way to make font size adaptive within given space? [09:57:22] [3/3] i.e. not making div/table bigger than it is (main criteria for height is an image used on a side of it) just cus text got slightly longer [09:58:35] manually giving font size for each instance won't work, ofc, it gets futile as screen size gets smaller [10:04:47] Is there a way to view all files in your wiki [10:06:33] common.css it don't even let me to save the page [10:06:52] With the word bengali [10:07:31] Special:ListFiles or Special:NewFiles [10:09:24] This is a Bengali number counter [10:10:11] The css file is not saving with the word bengali [10:11:08] I get it [10:11:18] idk why it happens tho [10:11:20] what [10:12:22] [1/3] @ Eclair [10:12:23] [2/3] counter(my-sec-counter,bengali) [10:12:23] [3/3] doesn't seem to be supported by Common.css [10:12:47] hmm what happens when you try [10:12:58] does it prevent from saving? [10:13:11] yeah [10:13:16] what's the message [10:13:29] @r1f4t ^ [10:56:23] I don’t understand [11:09:00] [1/2] Woops [11:09:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1269250662877630525/image.png?ex=66af614b&is=66ae0fcb&hm=fbd64198f7477e5a09d424e32efe219fb9e627c2ca768707b3cbbc566d8b3e35& [11:09:24] https://furrnations.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Update_after [11:10:00] there's a way to fix it? [11:19:32] um, is something happening? [11:19:45] I just returned to mh for the first time in a while and I'm getting a bunch of 502s [11:20:47] I thought there was the faster server migraty thing [11:30:29] oh I see [11:31:02] oh nvm [11:34:33] we've been experiencing some slow load and 502s for the last 3 days really, had no such problems for a long time until now [11:35:10] ah [11:35:10] tech folks banned bunch of aggressive bots/crawlers, but there's something more, it seems [11:35:21] I already saw what's happening in #tech [11:42:13] I can look later today again [11:42:23] Last time we saw this it was OpenAI [11:42:28] But they're already banned [11:43:18] Dang [11:45:31] I banned some ByteDance scraper [11:45:57] And a few dodgy stuff [11:46:04] But it doesn't seem to have helped [12:15:11] [1/2] ok ive been kinda thinking abt this for the past couple hours lmao but i cant think of anything concrete [12:15:11] [2/2] do u have a specific example of this div/table image setup [12:17:39] [1/3] my horrible table templates here lol [12:17:40] [2/3] [12:17:40] [3/3] but I think I'm just gonna shuffle cells in it (AGAIN lol, this template will be death of me) [12:18:17] ik this sounds obvious but [12:18:34] anything else suspicious going on in the access logs [12:18:42] [1/2] what I mean [12:18:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1269268204702666833/IMG_20240803_151818.jpg?ex=66af71a1&is=66ae2021&hm=d152cc021e92c9488a75e0b0a20c71e96761d862442d13b1b4f66521809c7ca5& [12:29:03] Nothing showing at the edge that seems likely to be causing it as far as I could tell [12:30:27] When visiting wiki.themanaworld.org on my Android phone with either Firefox or Chrome, I'm still being forwarded to https://www.polandballwiki.com/wiki/Polandball_Wiki. Even after I force close the app and delete all data. [12:30:57] Anybody else seeing the same behavior? [12:31:15] Oh no, that's happening again? [12:31:30] thorbjorn: I will purge it again in a bit [12:31:39] We know the cause [12:31:55] Can it somehow be fixed for good? [12:32:02] I'm not sure why we haven't deployed the fix tbh [12:32:25] What is the fix [12:33:18] void's patch to MultiPurge [12:35:38] thorbjorn: purged [12:38:29]