[00:15:46] you got merge errors luv [00:16:54] @originalauthority I am GOING to commit various unforgivable war crimes [00:17:10] What is it this time [00:17:22] the help text in ManageWikiSettings [00:17:29] HOW [00:17:35] [1/9] ``` [00:17:36] [2/9] <<<<<<< Enable_Edit_Recov [00:17:36] [3/9] 'help' => 'Enables Edit Recovery on this wiki, must be enabled in Special:Preferences.', [00:17:36] [4/9] ======= [00:17:36] [5/9] 'help' => 'Enables [[mw:Help:Edit Recovery|Edit Recovery]] on this wiki, must be enabled in [[Special:preferences|]].', [00:17:36] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Edit_Recovery https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:preferences [00:17:37] [6/9] >>>>>>> master [00:17:37] [7/9] 'requires' => [] [00:17:37] [8/9] ], [00:17:38] [9/9] ``` [00:17:54] do you want the first or the second I'll fix [00:18:33] it should be `  'help' => 'Enables Edit Recovery on this wiki, must be enabled in Special:Preferences.',` since links don't seem to be supported(check the entry on meta wiki or anywhere else [00:18:45] unles theres a way to render the links [00:18:57] nah I think they're stripped [00:19:08] could have sworn ive seenit [00:19:50] i'll merge once ci does [00:19:51] its thin [00:20:13] i love getting cvt emails and thinking 'dang i didn't know we had 5 year olds using our site' [00:20:36] merged [00:20:47] ty [00:20:56] ill check if it works after a shower [00:21:01] do you like my github avatar [00:21:03] ill make an announcement tmr [00:21:03] its an elephant [00:21:13] paying homage to php elephant [00:21:24] its some pokemon i forgot the name of [00:21:58] [1/2] If you excuse me I will time travel the long way.. [00:21:58] [2/2] -# Jumps in his bed... [00:24:07] skip night [00:24:20] originalauthority: will check tmr [00:24:23] php simp [00:24:28] heh [00:24:45] i'm really liking vue atm though [00:24:48] thanks wikimedia! [01:59:58] [1/2] okay i just signed in and verified everything. made sure to be descriptive with my wiki request. [01:59:58] [2/2] on average how long does it take to be reviewed? [02:07:50] Am I allowed to hide secrets in my wiki? [02:08:00] Like a secret thing you can find and find lore [02:08:13] Or does my wiki have to be all super serious [02:43:52] guys, I recently made a wiki creation request and it is still in review. Then I checked that there was a wiki that was requested almost a month ago and yet still in review, so I'm wondering how much time will it take for the request to be approved/denied? [03:00:39] @thelastlich @mr.io. it usually takes a couple of days depending on who is available and how many requests are in the queue [03:01:14] Thank you! [03:01:35] you're welcome ^^ [04:00:27] ohayo! [04:57:52] [1/2] Hello - with reference to the below task - it has been closed and marked as resolved without my confirmation [04:57:52] [2/2] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12435#248634 [05:05:52] what's your wiki? [05:06:44] also bear in mind, Miraheze is entirely volunteer run, there's technically no staff and nobody gets paid, our tech folks are doing their best [05:07:05] when they're able to [05:09:08] [1/2] check the wiki itself, seems like imports were successful [05:09:08] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1270609651074859071/IMG_20240807_080843.jpg?ex=66b452f3&is=66b30173&hm=393a69c2405f9adada8fdb1efa146fdb8219ece29ddc78ade8447c47c5580a0c& [05:10:28] if tech didn't encounter errors during import it's usually closed as resolved right away [05:12:41] The tech said yesterday to upload the XML file which have all information about the wiki - I did upload the file and and after some time she said that she don't have access to import the XML and task assigned to another engineer who closed it [05:13:34] BlankEclair, are you here? [05:13:54] I checked the task and tought she meant file dump, not XML [05:14:11] seems like MacFan done the import in the end [05:14:38] in RecentChanges of the wiki you'll see logs of Maintenance Script which does the import [05:14:40] Are there any official members of Miraheze? [05:15:22] well, not in Discord as for now, time zones you kno [05:15:39] idk about IRC [05:16:06] What about these BlankEclair and MacFan? [05:16:17] are these official guys? [05:16:24] they are members of Miraheze tech team, yes [05:16:43] they just don't use Discord, they use IRC, which is bridged here by a bot [05:20:31] Thanks for the information - and what is your designation by the way? [05:20:42] I'm just helping folks here [05:20:57] anyone can volunteer in their capacity [05:21:26] I hang there since 2021 so I suppose I have enough competence for that [05:21:42] I admin couple of wikis too, of course [05:22:22] OK great ! [05:41:54] I was comparing the pages - there are around 20 users in th original wiki but the import on hcm giving only 4-5 users - is it due to the import was not properly? [05:43:18] user pages export/import if they're actually created, I think [05:43:56] like, very often users don't create their pages, they're just there w/ nothing and appear as red link [05:45:59] So I need to export user pages from my previous wiki and then impor that page into hcm so that all users able to login via their creds on hcm wiki? [05:46:34] [1/3] no [05:46:35] [2/3] accounts themselves, login credentials aren't part of the import, users should register on Miraheze [05:46:35] [3/3] if it was done before import, the account will attach to edits/histories, otherwise a tie can be asked via phorge (at least, I've done that for my old Fandom account) [05:49:20] /message was edited/ [05:50:48] [1/2] I assume discord direct issues since an indie wiki has the exact same problem [05:50:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1270620138877747212/image.png?ex=66b45cb8&is=66b30b38&hm=de0811ce3dd856af6c689bea255879b92f87487e160c71920c1e0454fb77005c& [05:51:00] what problem [05:51:14] avi? [05:51:15] [1/2] icon doesn't load anymore [05:51:16] [2/2] image is still on wiki [05:57:27] yeah, or bot itself [07:23:21] What are wiki rules on nsfw or topics of it? [07:24:20] I think [[Content Policy]] says it all (tho I'm just a member like you) [07:24:20] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy [07:24:21] [07:24:26] Ah thx [07:27:16] Yeah it helps thanks [07:27:32] yeah the content policy contains the extra restrictions on nsfw wikis [07:27:40] Although I am wondering about the groups of people one [07:27:50] Basically my thing is based on Roblox [07:28:13] There's 2 groups, one is pretty fictional since those people don't usually work together and one isn't. Hackers and Anti-Furries [07:28:41] My series has a pretty satirical view of both (sometimes taking hackers more seriously) so is that still allowed? [07:29:09] If not I could either [take it down/remake] it [08:44:19] [1/4] Welp [08:44:20] [2/4] Turns out the Chinese version of Usagi Shima was out for a few months [08:44:20] [3/4] I was expecting an announcement on the devs twitter, but it makes sense why there wasn't [08:44:20] [4/4] I've done a decent job documenting it, tho finding older update notes is really hard :( [08:56:14] what does it mean for your wiki? [09:00:26] It just means it's really hard to get info for the Version History page for the Chinese Section [09:01:21] [1/2] I added a new page for the differences in the Chinese release [09:01:22] [2/2] It's quite a lot, but surprisingly nothing major [09:02:25] Sadly I can't find an answer to why the Chinese and int apps are not happy being on the same device [09:02:54] why or how [09:03:22] [1/2] Why [09:03:23] [2/2] For pvz2, it doesn't seem to be an issue [09:03:44] its not an issue for every game ive seen [09:04:11] the only thing i can think of is if the cn and intl versions have the same like ID, idk what to call it [09:04:18] package id/name [09:04:20] "com.pank0.usagishima" this bit [09:04:23] Yea, that's possible [09:05:55] I'll probably stay on the Chinese version for now until I get my laptop so I can use an emulator on there [09:11:55] I may ask the dev to see if its possible to change it, but I'll wait until if the Chinese version starts to deviate from int so that there's some reason why anyone outside China would be wanting to play it [09:14:12] But yea, super happy to finally add more stuff to the Usagi Shima Wiki after like, a month of silence even tho technically its still silence but yea [09:59:28] I have a question - I have updated name of the wiki and uploaded a new logo image - when I open the wiki link in private window it shows the previous name and logo also not visible, now when I click on any link it suddenly change the name and URL also appear, why this strange behaviour happening? [09:59:50] cache [10:00:24] I am opening the link in fresh incognito window [10:00:37] well yeah the cache is on the server side [10:01:17] doing ?action=purge after the url might make it show the latest version [10:02:27] you also have the cache proxy... cache [10:03:04] caches all the way down [10:03:14] [1/2] this one, right? [10:03:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1270683664078082103/image.png?ex=66b497e1&is=66b34661&hm=29bc4ad660968383fb20d95dbfeac4593fb6560657bade4dffa2e0d8ad97e5c8& [10:03:18] yup [10:05:22] is there any way to import from other wikis like fandom? [10:06:02] [1/2] from fandom? yes definitely [10:06:02] [2/2] [[Import]] [10:06:02] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Import [10:06:03] [10:07:03] ok [10:07:04] thx [10:10:04] It is still showing the previous name on the main page only and when I open the link as public (without login), the main page. When I click on any other page, it shows the new name and logo. The main page comes from redirection [10:11:06] i mean, as long as it shows correctly on any page it means the change worked, youd just have to wait a bit for the cache to update, usually a couple minutes (unless ur on mobile where its a couple days) [10:11:25] caching is weird... [10:12:04] cache not updating just means its server mandated time to stand up and stretch ur legs [10:13:38] nah that just means you need to figure out how to purge the cache from varnish :3 [10:14:18] BlankEclair, you know the URL of my wiki - can you please check the main page and then check any other page to check if the name and logo are change or not [10:16:17] uh, i don't remember who you are 😅 [10:16:36] whats the right logo? the blue text with the circle? if it is then i see it [10:17:35] a wiki editor said something to the effect of "polls on the wiki would be nice but none of the existing extensions fully meet what we need" and i'm like "time to make an extension that puts google forms in an iframe" [10:18:37] Yup the blue cicle above and software name written below the cirle [10:19:32] oh, is https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12435 your import request? [10:20:01] Yes exaclty [10:21:05] the skins even changed as i refreshed lol [10:21:36] anyway, i assume this is it? https://files.catbox.moe/70jgqr.png [10:23:13] So you can see the perfect logo [10:26:09] give it 15-30 min [10:26:24] [1/2] So why I can't see it in the first attempt - when I open the link in incognito it shows me the previous name and after single refresh it change the name and logo appears [10:26:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1270689496673030184/image.png?ex=66b49d50&is=66b34bd0&hm=de381b978b2b8767b63325c1d89a876a654f44710f0b62fa8e3eec941035d943& [10:26:33] as said earlier, unless it's mobile cache, it'll be fine soon [10:26:52] ah, you see, there's different skin on your screenshot [10:26:56] avengers9309: press F5 on the page [10:26:59] It shows up on the actual main page and not the welcome redirect for me [10:27:10] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [10:27:22] p sure you get that because you're hitting the cache for /wiki/Main_Page and not /wiki/Welcome_to_SmartHCM_Wiki [10:27:51] which skin you made default in wiki's settings? [10:28:10] vector [10:28:25] you know we have 2 of them lol [10:28:30] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1270690023385071626/image.png?ex=66b49dcd&is=66b34c4d&hm=1d99ed2c1372997d9b7edefe2f985c0ce183c2d570e9c4b231a14cc1486bc040& [10:28:43] i refer to them as vector and vector-2022 :p [10:28:53] fair [10:29:30] and just in case, what skin is in your user preferences? [10:30:49] how to check it? [10:31:49] your personal, user settings, appearance tab [10:35:51] click on person icon in the top right corner [10:36:37] there will be a small menu, it should have Preferences [10:36:40] /I always switch to old vector so couldn't remember/ [10:38:15] [1/2] Its vector (2010) [10:38:16] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1270692478906794026/image.png?ex=66b4a017&is=66b34e97&hm=5c29f7c2ff23aba5e696603d8eeb50afa9088d5ee136a0fb22bca96b07e44a28& [10:39:06] okay, so I suppose it's really a cache issue [10:39:24] maybe try to clean your browser's cache [10:39:31] if everyone else get correct skin [10:39:41] I got older vector too [10:39:45] Ok no worries - I will wait for few minutes, clear cache and then try back [10:40:07] If it helps I now see the logo on the redirect too 🙂 [10:41:20] /friendly reminder to check if you are logged in other wikis you work w/, I got logged out again, thanks CentralAuth/ [10:41:43] (Ah you too ?? I thought I was loosing my mind 👀) [10:42:08] -# Which that being said is also the case.. [10:42:11] get used to it :) [10:42:45] Other than that - is this wiki not work over mobile phone? I just open the URL over the phone but it is just showing the old default text [10:43:15] mobile cache is just like that, according to eclair it takes 5 days to update but i feel like its more like 1 or 2 days [10:43:30] yeah, mobile cache is a whole other beast [10:43:50] thank cloudflaire, I guess [10:44:05] Ah nice 😅 [10:44:45] Imagine if it was instant, just imagine 🤤 [10:45:09] [1/2] if you happen to have custom domain tho, mobile works right away [10:45:09] [2/2] although I guess we'll loose this advantage soon lol [10:46:39] Hi. Do they review wiki requests now? Because I can see that there is a whole queue of wikis there since july and I would like to know the situation. Thank you. [10:46:45] so in near future, Miraheze will not have custom domain option? [10:47:23] well that would suck [10:47:33] [1/2] no no, I meant the cloudflaire thing [10:47:34] [2/2] it currently works only w/ miraheze.org URLs, and custom URLs are currently spared from this cache circus [10:49:03] if you'll see recent changes of meta wiki creation on new wikis never dropped, as fkr july requests i suppose they just wait for replies or in deeper review process [10:50:45] I see, thank you [10:52:40] Quick question Legroom, when you added CSS and JS files into a category you did it with `/ [Category:Cat Name] /` right ? [10:53:06] yeah, but usual double brackets [10:53:33] Yeah right silly me (really tired today) 😅 [10:53:52] I saw that css/js pages can be categorised fairly recently lol [10:54:34] Yeah seems nice, I have a Maintenance Cat. for everything and it will forbid havving to look for those pages too [10:54:58] categories my beloved [10:55:06] hear hear [10:57:01] Weird, can extensions deactivate by themselves ? I had the link suggest one for [[Link]] but it doesn't seem to work anymore [10:57:01] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Link [10:57:06] [10:57:16] Oops [10:58:18] Do we have options to change/modify the background theme to better look the wiki? [10:58:26] I'm not sure I get what you mean [10:59:32] you can w/ CSS, although Cosmos skin (replica of old Wikia/Oasis skin) lets you to change background and colors in Styling settings [10:59:44] [LinkSuggest](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LinkSuggest) used to autocomplete the links I was writing by suggesting the rest and it no longer does. [11:01:36] hm never used that one, is it enabled in managewiki? [11:01:43] Yeah checked [11:02:01] [1/2] seems to work fine, were u using visual editor? [11:02:02] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1270698460567437333/image.png?ex=66b4a5a9&is=66b35429&hm=833ab3f1d14d4080e4b47f436f4ea6417e730e4275cbeee421047df1078cc92d& [11:02:15] Source only for me [11:03:42] It's marked as installed in Special:Version [11:05:56] Oh it doesn't showup with syntax highlighting, I had noticed that it also disabled the editing window resize.. [11:08:50] > [07/08/2024 20:43] mobile cache is just like that, according to eclair it takes 5 days to update but i feel like its more like 1 or 2 days [11:08:53] caching is magical [11:09:16] i'm going by what rhinosf1 said and the response headers of a request i sent [11:12:57] Yes it magical [11:13:01] Mobile cache is broken [11:13:07] There is a fix pending [11:22:10] Correct. SytnaxHighlighting and LinkSuggest are incompatable extensions. [11:26:19] I see, and by extention SyntaxHighlighting is incompatible with the resize, it's sad but I guess there's no other way 😅 [11:29:20] the syntaxhighlight (its called the codemirror editor) is supposed to be able to be resized (it can be on meta and testwiki and dev and some other wikis) but its broken for some reason [11:30:04] Sometimes things just don't want to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [11:33:28] [1/2] Okay it should be working for everyone now, made the themes and few other CSS stuff public 😓 [11:33:29] [2/2] Tahnks again Canada 👍🏼 [12:39:01] Can we add category to redirection ? [12:39:31] as in a redirect page? i believe so [12:46:47] How do I request to have my wiki deleted? I made it on the spur of the moment and am no longer interested. There is no content on the wiki. [12:47:13] mindlessforminerva: request on Steward requests/Wiki (un)deletions [12:50:44] Oh yeah, that's nice [12:50:54] Thank you, done [16:45:14] Uhhh, I just learned about a wild thing in 'recent changes' that may be helpful for folks: [16:45:43] There's a hidden 'expand' button when there's multiple changes. [16:45:45] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1270784960554471526/image.png?ex=66b4f638&is=66b3a4b8&hm=6ddfe3150f62807c842ff10247b643a49e8a53a8cd63953acc7748ecf2e7abfe& [16:47:47] Ah you don't see it ? It's for changes that are close enough on the same page tho the "close enough" is quite random [16:47:53] Ah, looks like this is a skin-specific hidden thing. 😄 [16:48:06] Most skins show the arrow [16:48:35] Yeah, try in dark mode, who knows it might show up 🤔 [16:48:41] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [16:58:45] 1.42 bug [16:59:23] arrow turned white [16:59:34] on my wikis they turned black lol [17:00:12] Ahhh, got it [17:00:25] Who needs them anyway ? 😛 [17:00:56] Me, the functionary. 😄 [17:01:19] Not strictly necessary, but does make my tasks faster/easier. [17:02:18] He he 😁 [17:05:40] you didn't know about that? 😮 [17:06:40] you can also use filters like dates and edits that aren't in the UI (like lets say you want the last 604 days changes) by adding it to the URL [17:07:04] but that will surely hang and never load if you're asking for so many changes heh [17:29:01] (Relevant :P ) [17:55:49] Years in and I still get surprised by functionality I just never ran across. It keeps things fresh. 🤣 [17:56:36] Also a good sign I need to eat lunch, I keep injecting food-related words into my sentence sandwiches. [18:30:00] It wasn’t always hidden yeah 1.42 bug [19:41:42] how would i go about having a separate stylesheet in the mediawiki namespace be imported into common.css? [19:42:08] so MediaWiki:Mainpage.css still affects the site [19:42:45] [1/2] you can create any page in MediaWiki namespace, then make `@import` in Common.css [19:42:45] [2/2] but for single page use I suggest TemplateStyles [19:43:07] we tried template styles but it threw a bunch of errors [19:43:16] and what would i put in the import statement [19:43:20] like the link to the page [19:43:21] for example? [19:43:29] because I use it on main pages [19:43:42] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1270829744316879063/image.png?ex=66b51fed&is=66b3ce6d&hm=312d076ca349a6f4ada3f17e8c39f6029014ac3a10afcdaed65395650086d84d& [19:43:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1270829744514007060/image.png?ex=66b51fed&is=66b3ce6d&hm=66049465523c183e23fbdcba2346394f171eb3329d91a1bbdcd2114e3b54999d& [19:43:54] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1270829796707926219/image.png?ex=66b51ffa&is=66b3ce7a&hm=19588a016c8d7610c13af87c7eb2b078df20f70dae55525129624eb19926ebd7& [19:44:07] second one is after the content model was changed [19:44:45] Wasn't there an Extender to include more of the CSS things ? [19:44:59] [1/2] click on Page information, in a table you'll find Change model button, then change content model to Sanitized CSS [19:45:00] [2/2] you also can enabled TS Extender extension [19:45:08] ah [19:45:12] i dont think that was enabled [19:45:19] yeah, additional extension [19:45:30] (I will take notes too since I plan on using it) [19:47:36] the content model wasnt changed [19:47:44] thats tje error i got when trying to change it to sanitised css [19:47:53] ohh [19:48:04] because i was using variables [19:48:16] all of those errors are due to defining or referencing variables [19:48:34] (I hope it will compensate the sadness of loosing the tooltips 😢) [19:50:51] tooltips didn't worked? [19:51:18] I have a special variant that was allowed via a config and the fixed code doesn't allow it [19:51:54] It allowed me to have an entire template page as tooltip [19:53:17] [1/14] This, it was a config for the fandom extension and it doesn't work with the fix. [19:53:17] [2/14] ``` [19:53:17] [3/14] / Tooltips Config / [19:53:18] [4/14] window.tooltips_config = { [19:53:18] [5/14] waitForImages: true, [19:53:18] [6/14] noCSS: true, [19:53:19] [7/14] }; [19:53:19] [8/14] window.tooltips_list = [ [19:53:19] [9/14] { [19:53:20] [10/14] classname: 'link-tooltip', [19:53:20] [11/14] parse: '{'+'{<#tooltip#>|tt=<#tt#>|show=no}}', [19:53:20] [12/14] } [19:53:21] [13/14] ]; [19:53:21] [14/14] ``` [19:55:06] [1/2] And it was allowing me this little pearl I had worked on for so long. [19:55:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1270832612532944926/20240807-1954-13.8938488.mp4?ex=66b52299&is=66b3d119&hm=7c308d486871fe10b2659cdfce4bc4796535d27d2845f71b27b73c1510c9c5d8& [19:59:40] better then the fandom version by far [20:00:09] The default one you mean ? Yeah, this is still fandom by way beyond the default one [20:00:52] There was only some weirdness, the CSS wasn't 1:1 sometimes 🤣 [20:16:59] Oh a stargate wiki [20:17:09] interesting [20:17:52] Stargate-ish there's more, it englobles my fanon stuff [20:18:18] I was sick of forgetting stuff and this way people could read on their own time [21:05:52] Hi [21:06:27] hey [21:06:47] how ya doing? [21:10:55] I am okay, [21:11:17] How much CPU and RAM does MediaWiki use per 100 readers? Just wondering [21:26:23] impossible to kniw [21:32:11] Does Miraheze use Cloudflare? [21:32:36] Yes [21:32:43] [[Tech:Cloudflare]] [21:32:43] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Cloudflare [21:32:44] [21:34:10] Why does google search console fail to see my validation tag ? it's been like an hour and i know the tag is set [21:34:30] and it says it can't find the website altough the link is valid [21:34:56] may be cache issues [21:35:01] Mastodon dod that for me [21:36:51] Yeah but like the tag has been here for a long time [21:37:10] and why would it says it can't find the website rather than it cant find the tag [21:43:16] Is it a paid plan of Cloudflare? [22:19:09] Is it the paid plan? [23:05:18] [1/3] Make sure you followed the setup outlined here exactly: [23:05:19] [2/3] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:NotAracham/WikiSEO_-_Improving_Search_Ranking [23:05:19] [3/3] It can sometimes take a LONG while for google to start picking it up correctly, it once took me two days for google to register the change. 😦 [23:16:46] Oh [23:16:56] That's really long lol [23:17:03] Thought it would be faster [23:26:09] Yeah, usually it's within a few hours at most. [23:26:21] Just trying to make sure you've got an idea of what worst-case scenario can look like. [23:27:16] If it's been a couple hours, feel free to pop in the name of your wiki and I can double check that there isn't any formatting issue with the tags. [23:29:24] Well the one I saw looked good [23:29:43] It's ``languepierrick.miraheze.org`` [23:32:17] No idea. From what I heard we get the paid plan for free [23:32:26] maybe enterprise [23:32:27] would have to ask tecj