[00:31:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to awing_ding> Yep, can confirm that looks valid to me
[01:35:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <quesquestion> [1/3] does anyone know what would be causing this extra space on the pages and how you would fix it?
[01:35:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <quesquestion> [2/3] <https://findthetrollfacesrm.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Vector.css>
[01:35:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <quesquestion> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1270918395625214012/image.png?ex=66b5727e&is=66b420fe&hm=6ecce01d0e91112d5d6fad1d52b283425b88dd410b36fa1b178599ec1b654d1d&
[01:36:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <quesquestion> [1/2] there's also this semi transparent white bar that appears on every page
[01:36:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <quesquestion> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1270918645970899074/image.png?ex=66b572b9&is=66b42139&hm=8b3288aca2c8e5aba24bc28a81c1e19f83db8016e7de23b8ea2d4268f837166f&
[02:16:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <petramagna, replying to quesquestion> [1/3] The left is for navigating the page and the right is for tools. If you hide them, there will be empty spaces on the screen. You can click the button on the bottom right to get into full-width mode, in which the white spaces will be fully utilized.
[02:16:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <petramagna, replying to quesquestion> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1270928608172441691/image.png?ex=66b57c00&is=66b42a80&hm=3f8333a4a5a19b6530383d6cfe0fc98e3efc23f2bd0c21fb1958321dd420caaf&
[02:16:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <petramagna, replying to quesquestion> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1270928608793460826/image.png?ex=66b57c01&is=66b42a81&hm=32794910f95861782fc87b2cf03575a97c1b09db9905b22029bccb833eb7b0c3&
[02:18:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <quesquestion, replying to petramagna> I don't think those white spaces were always there
[02:19:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <quesquestion> you could hide the tool bar and the page would expand to fit them there
[02:19:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <petramagna> This behavior is in vanilla vector-2022, so the content of your `Vector.css` is probably not responsible for it. There's probably a way to default to full-width mode, though.
[02:19:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <quesquestion, replying to petramagna> vector.css also applies to vector-2022
[02:20:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <quesquestion> that's where all the css on the images are from
[02:20:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <petramagna> It depends on the width of your screen. For narrower screens, hiding the tool bar will result in the main page content expanding to fill the blank.
[02:20:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <petramagna> This behavior essentially sets an upper bound on page width unless specifically told not to.
[02:22:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <petramagna, replying to quesquestion> What I meant is that the stuff you have in `Vector.css` did not cause the extra white space behavior. It was already present in vanilla vector-2022, so blanking `Vector.css` or looking for the culprit in `Common.css` would not have helped.
[02:26:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <quesquestion> I've seen other wikis where when hiding the navigation and tools bar doesn't leave the extra white space, how can I do that?
[02:33:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <petramagna> [1/6] ```
[02:33:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <petramagna> [2/6] main.mw-body {
[02:33:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <petramagna> [3/6]     grid-template-columns: auto;
[02:33:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <petramagna> [4/6] }
[02:33:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <petramagna> [5/6] ```
[02:33:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <petramagna> [6/6] This works somewhat in inspector. For some screen widths it breaks the layout, so you definitely want to play around with it before applying it.
[02:35:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <petramagna> An even better idea is to reach out to the other wikis with the feature you want and ask them how they did it...
[02:48:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <petramagna> [1/2] It may also be helpful to read [WMF's explanation of why they limited page width in vector-2022](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Vector/2022/Design_documentation#1)_Why_is_the_article_width_limited_to_960px?). I personally hated vector-2022 and still use the old vector on Wikipedia, with this page width thing being the main concern. But, vector-2022 comes with some other impro
[02:48:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <petramagna> [2/2] vements, so I chose it as the default skin for my Miraheze wiki. YMMV.
[03:37:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jamesycramesy> Generally how long does it take for a wiki request to get approved?
[03:43:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to jamesycramesy> [1/2] depends on availability of request reviewer volunteers and size of the queue, usually several hours, in rare cases could 1-2 days
[03:43:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to jamesycramesy> [2/2] reviewer might ask something in comment section
[03:43:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jamesycramesy> Gotcha, thanks!
[03:44:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to jamesycramesy> is Strawberry Switchblade Wiki your request? 👀
[03:44:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <petramagna> You can also look at the list of recently approved wikis to get an idea of how long it took them to be approved (https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue?dir=prev&dbname=&requester=&status=approved)
[03:44:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jamesycramesy, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Yes haha my profile probably makes it obvious
[03:44:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jamesycramesy, replying to petramagna> Yes i was stalking this page lol!!
[04:23:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> I did a wee bit of cleanup today to help out our review team, we started today with substantial number of requests going back to Aug 2
[04:24:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Thanks to everyone for their patience, we have multiple volunteers on the team that aren't available + more requests than usual so things are a bit more backlogged vs normal
[05:02:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <endebros> why is tabbernue snapping the page to the top of the tab now?
[05:03:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <endebros> first the ugly animation and now this
[05:03:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <endebros> is there a fix?
[05:03:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <endebros> https://i.gyazo.com/89b622900311c5f570f4444a7b3f1d35.gif
[05:25:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.lunatuna> [1/2] anyone know if there would be a way to stop this infobox template from automatically calculating the sq mi and just leaving it alone
[05:25:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.lunatuna> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1270976051669106739/image.png?ex=66b5a830&is=66b456b0&hm=2091ef9b55595610b64fc467866a314f51123dfc9e5cf3a490e8e34aad1f90d7&
[05:25:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.lunatuna> because whenever i put it in it does that
[05:27:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to endebros> just a guess but do you have the # URL change setting enabled?
[05:28:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> and perhaps some styling might cause displacement of headers
[05:28:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> tabber's are counted as headers, I mean
[05:28:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> *tabs
[05:29:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to .lunatuna> Lua template?
[05:29:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.lunatuna, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> yeah id assume thats how to fix it im just not sure how to do lua stuff
[05:30:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <endebros, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> I disabled it and it still occurs
[05:30:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.lunatuna> [1/2] most likely it would be here i have to edit something
[05:30:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.lunatuna> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1270977505645559828/image.png?ex=66b5a98a&is=66b4580a&hm=bbeeb132113da8883976182d486018ddc3608c0aec03d33438b5aa2db3f6b1c5&
[05:33:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I'm zero at Lua myself, sorry
[05:33:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> although
[05:33:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> this looks like just parser functions
[05:35:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions#Formatting_functions>
[05:36:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] `formatnum`
[05:36:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Formatting>
[05:40:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] about `#expr` function
[05:40:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions##expr>
[05:40:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> math isn't my force tho lol, and I'm not able to see what's going on rn
[05:41:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> also an advice, enable syntax highlight, there's blue marker button for that
[05:44:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to endebros> can you try to w/ `?safemode=1` in URL?
[05:44:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> it disables custom CSS/JS
[05:46:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <endebros, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> fixes it
[05:46:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> CSS optimization it is then
[05:48:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [1/2] How do I add the little fellas?
[05:48:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1270982010151899207/Screenshot_20240808_124806_Chrome.jpg?ex=66b5adbc&is=66b45c3c&hm=6151fbe61ac94dcd6dd14b56c9a12683163710b5c59f95438fc05a28e8147c5c&
[05:48:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Like the playable characters thing
[05:49:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to tempette> if you'll click "Edit source" next to header you should be able to see
[05:50:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> but I suggest to use `<gallery>`
[05:53:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images#Gallery_syntax>
[05:54:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> PTW uses divs here to avoid out custom gallery styling iirc
[05:55:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> like, again, the way this wiki is coded is too nuanced
[07:10:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sawn.dnh> [1/2] how do I change this logo above navigation to something else?
[07:10:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sawn.dnh> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271002467546566696/image.png?ex=66b5c0ca&is=66b46f4a&hm=266fa8b5a2b30f6805ae832398f22c9a96b011fdd5619179cf3a0a8d6fa6f1ff&
[07:27:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths> In settings, but you'll need to upload the new logo first
[07:35:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sawn.dnh> [1/2] is it this setting?
[07:35:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sawn.dnh> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271008868826218568/image.png?ex=66b5c6c0&is=66b47540&hm=c399bc6b6e0387b2caffddc0f9fcaf04ad55cb9fc8b04fdb86f98d2288e61ad0&
[07:37:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to sawn.dnh> [1/2] yes
[07:37:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to sawn.dnh> [2/2] first upload file, preferred size is 135x135px, then open its raw file URL (static...) and insert in that setting
[08:02:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sawn.dnh> Ok, thank you for the help!!
[08:12:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <r1f4t> [1/2] How can I change this text
[08:12:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <r1f4t> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271018091647733830/Screenshot_2024-08-08-14-10-36-05.jpg?ex=66b5cf57&is=66b47dd7&hm=abdbb65f57ab7a7244705715f112b4b37d54075079792a47886ded6eaab9c353&
[08:15:47] <BlankEclair>	 r1f4t: MediaWiki:scribunto-doc-page-does-not-exist
[08:16:01] <BlankEclair>	 this should be updated via translatewiki.net, but editing it per-wiki also works
[08:16:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <r1f4t> Thanks BlankEclair
[08:16:22] <BlankEclair>	 you're welcome ^_^
[08:18:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <r1f4t> Umm I guess there is a typo
[08:19:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <r1f4t> No typo
[08:19:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <r1f4t> Sorry
[08:38:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <r1f4t> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271024822507274280/remix-84e5a4a8-6964-44af-98bc-484ba41591e1.png?ex=66b5d59c&is=66b4841c&hm=1a99d6308e75bc64f1c6da0c881ce24096894a5f1cbf2fb6201ddf9f62732384&
[08:39:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <r1f4t> Also how can I change this
[08:40:20] <BlankEclair>	 in most cases, you can add ?uselang=qqx (or &uselang=qqx, depending on the query) to the end of the url to see the "system messages"
[08:41:39] <BlankEclair>	 https://files.catbox.moe/79xc4g.png; in this case it's the system message "copyrightwarning", which is editable on MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning
[08:55:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <r1f4t> Didn't understand the first part
[08:56:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> add the qqx thingies in URL of the page, it will shows message codes
[08:59:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <r1f4t> Can any one say how incubators mediawiki pages works
[08:59:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <r1f4t> Like how can I change the contents for my lang
[09:48:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> so, I uh, got my wiki approved. I have some 7 pages in fandom. Can anyone help me transport everything? (i.e. including the files, images AND TEMPLATES)
[09:53:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths> [[Import]]
[09:53:07] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Import
[09:53:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Import>
[09:53:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> hmm ok will read
[10:04:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> @ghaztliousmoths What is interwiki prefix
[10:04:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> It says I need it to import
[10:06:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> help?
[10:10:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> slight help needed
[10:10:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> [1/2] mediawiki supports infoboxes, right??
[10:10:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271047842412101632/image.png?ex=66b5eb0c&is=66b4998c&hm=38eada8784cccaf93d1ed52ad343be2975f18c084d289fa8b574d41468a2cdf1&
[10:12:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theburningfirethatscorchessouls, replying to mr.io.> Looks like a portable infobox that needs the portable infobox add on
[10:12:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io., replying to theburningfirethatscorchessouls> uhm, the what now?
[10:12:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> how do I add that?
[10:12:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> look at the admin sidebar
[10:12:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> which one
[10:12:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> there will be Manage this wiki's extension
[10:12:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> ok
[10:13:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> then?
[10:13:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> find, enable and save PortableInfobox in it
[10:13:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> ok lemme see
[10:13:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> [[MediaWiki:Extension:PortableInfobox]]
[10:13:32] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Extension:PortableInfobox
[10:13:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Extension:PortableInfobox?action=edit&redlink=1>
[10:13:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> after that, go to these raw code pages and make some small edits in it
[10:13:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> ok
[10:13:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> templates I mean
[10:13:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> Ugh, how do I do the link again
[10:14:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> templates?
[10:14:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> ok
[10:14:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> now?
[10:14:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to theburningfirethatscorchessouls> you missed mw: prefix, but it's not needed right now
[10:14:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271048862710104114/image.png?ex=66b5ebff&is=66b49a7f&hm=6fd99d9aae9b7f0f055b66607fb8d5d1e3fd52e3fd984f3550d976d3003dc5f9&
[10:14:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to mr.io.> yeah, pages which have `Template:` prefix
[10:14:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> this is the only opne
[10:15:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> what changes have to be done
[10:15:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to mr.io.> yeah, make some small edit in it, like a space break between `<noinclude>` tags
[10:15:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> hmm
[10:15:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> ok
[10:15:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271049149764337677/image.png?ex=66b5ec44&is=66b49ac4&hm=a37c0b4bb095dcc5c9856270fc03223fd797263a6f7f0047b040490ccdb79e4a&
[10:15:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> then?
[10:16:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] yeah, then save it
[10:16:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] portable infoboxes need a "kick" to start working after import
[10:16:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> still nothing
[10:16:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> link?
[10:16:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271049405700640798/image.png?ex=66b5ec81&is=66b49b01&hm=22f88d61816cf431d0d47e0fcf52bc86dc93674dfa250b1be6d7359025542097&
[10:16:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> This is supposed to be one <infobox>
[10:17:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> link to the wiki plz
[10:17:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io., replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [1/4] this si what the fandom one looks like https://armyclash.fandom.com/wiki/Template:ItemUnit
[10:17:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io., replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [2/4] And the new miraheze wiki"
[10:17:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io., replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [3/4] https://armyclash.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:ItemUnit
[10:17:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io., replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271049704330887178/image.png?ex=66b5ecc8&is=66b49b48&hm=9a2351306fc44917ac094bb422ea24f534926f3f0727fd2cd792faf76535549a&
[10:19:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> enable TemplateData extension too
[10:19:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> hmm ok 1 sec
[10:20:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> alr I just edited it
[10:20:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> no changes... what was that thing with cache again?
[10:21:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I just edited and it worked, idk what you did, I removed excessive line breaks
[10:21:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> hmm, ok
[10:21:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> oooh, yes it IS working!
[10:22:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> now I've just got to add images and stuff
[10:22:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> on normal pages you might need to Ctrl+F5 or Purge cache
[10:22:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io., replying to theoneandonlylegroom> tysm!
[10:22:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> np
[10:22:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> also
[10:22:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> 1 last thing
[10:22:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> How to upload file and add new page?
[10:23:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> to upload image you can use Special:Upload, there's a link in toolbar, or upload in editor (but idk how, I haven't done that for ages lol)
[10:23:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> ok
[10:23:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> and how to add page?
[10:27:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/4] * clicking on a red link
[10:27:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/4] * try to search new page title, it will suggest to create new page
[10:27:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [3/4] * type new page title in url after `wiki/`
[10:27:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [4/4] * use some extensions to make a "Create new page" box
[10:27:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io., replying to theoneandonlylegroom> ok 👍
[10:28:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu, replying to mr.io.> or you can enable `CreatePageUw` extension and go to `Special:CreatePage` to create a new page
[10:28:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io., replying to suzuneu> ok
[10:28:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> also the img thing isn't working?
[10:29:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> wdym
[10:29:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> 1 sec
[10:29:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> [1/2] I just uploaded BloodaxeBig.png
[10:29:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271052732068921355/image.png?ex=66b5ef9a&is=66b49e1a&hm=d166c2b98c9775cbc425810254cccdcef4736d8c141721d0ce73c84409421829&
[10:30:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> https://armyclash.miraheze.org/wiki/File:BloodaxeBig.png
[10:30:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> ok nvm i got it
[10:30:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> i have to use `[[filename.png]]`
[10:30:49] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/filename.png
[10:31:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.io.> ty all
[10:32:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/3] when you just want to insert image in text it's 
[10:32:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/3] `[[File:filename.png]]`
[10:32:24] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:filename.png
[10:32:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [3/3] portable infobox usually requires just filename w/o brackets
[10:32:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] i.e.
[10:32:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] `|image = filename.png`
[12:10:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengers9309> Hello - I have few questions, what are the specs of the server running at the backend of the wiki?  if Miraheze is doing any maintenance which can affect the wiki, would they inform admins of the wikis via emails?
[12:11:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Normally maintenance stuff is announced here in #announcements
[12:11:36] <BlankEclair>	 avengers9309: you can see a list of (physical and virtual) servers on https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Server_usage
[12:11:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Although it’s pretty rare we have to take servers offline entirely
[12:11:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> We should see about a mass email though
[12:12:04] <BlankEclair>	 and (planned) maintenance is announced on-wiki (and probably other places) (i'll check to see if i have a screenshot of that handy)
[12:13:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengers9309> If my wiki got a lot of traffic due to the users and clients visit - is it possible that the server running behind slows down?
[12:13:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Doubtful
[12:13:28] <BlankEclair>	 technically possible, but hopefully it's not that impactful
[12:13:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> We host some fairly large wikis without to much issue
[12:13:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> you would have to have a very massive project to make a blip
[12:13:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> How large is your wiki
[12:13:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> WHAT THE
[12:13:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> CHAT
[12:14:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> NEW RAIDARR PFP
[12:14:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> I'm talking something like full logopedia or avid
[12:14:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> IS THAI REAL
[12:14:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> as usual an obscure franchise art piece
[12:14:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> This is gonna take down getting used to
[12:14:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> I'm not sure that image has been released very far beyond some obscure discord channels datamining for old assets
[12:16:33] <BlankEclair>	 avengers9309: here's a recreation of the on-wiki downtime message from last month (it is also dismissable): https://files.catbox.moe/wyqujj.png
[12:25:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengers9309, replying to BlankEclair> How can I check what server I have been given by Miraheze?
[12:25:47] <BlankEclair>	 avengers9309: it's all of them
[12:26:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to avengers9309> On ManageWiki core it tells you what database cluster
[12:26:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengers9309> mine is c3
[12:26:10] <BlankEclair>	 oh right i forgot about databases
[12:26:25] <BlankEclair>	 i think any mediawiki server is used though, right?
[12:26:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I don’t remember the mapping of which is which it’s in config somewhere
[12:26:30] <BlankEclair>	 (picked via geodns, but still)
[12:26:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to BlankEclair> Think?
[12:26:54] <BlankEclair>	 i mean my knowledge is put into question
[12:28:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengers9309> what does that c3 means?
[12:28:25] <BlankEclair>	 database cluster 3, lemme check what is corrosponds to
[12:28:56] <BlankEclair>	 db171
[12:29:20] <BlankEclair>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Db171
[12:29:31] <BlankEclair>	 i think all the database servers are provisioned the same
[12:31:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271083280900296754/IMG_4527.png?ex=66b60c0d&is=66b4ba8d&hm=1ea716d0983bcc2e7f5cedc2119f6a050e5b2ece2ebfc55ff67269d7c38de911&
[12:31:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> ah yes load balancing
[12:31:28] <BlankEclair>	 lud bulunc
[12:31:47] <BlankEclair>	 my dns configuration completely breaks it though which is sad
[12:32:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> “load balancing” is slang for “route all traffic to mw152”
[12:33:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> Why does Miraheze hosts its own DNS?
[12:34:19] <BlankEclair>	 geodns
[12:34:26] <BlankEclair>	 (i think)
[12:34:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to theburningfirethatscorchessouls> I’d imagine it’s easier to maintain with all the subdomains
[12:34:40] <BlankEclair>	 though miraheze is currently moving to cloudflare, at least for ddos protection (i don't know the details)
[12:35:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> hopefully not a 100% move
[12:35:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> We are mostly on cloudflare
[12:35:43] <BlankEclair>	 what's the point of using cloudflare for ddos protection if you're exposing your ips...
[12:35:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> All miraheze.org wikis
[12:35:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> neither like nor trust cloudflare as a host
[12:36:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> the more we're able to flip if required the better
[12:36:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> with no essential dependencies like domains in CF's hands
[12:36:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> it’s all fun and games until someone requests a wiki creation on issue-tracker.miraheze.org
[12:36:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to raidarr> In that case I’m going to refrain from saying what I was going to say
[12:36:27] <BlankEclair>	 heh, i saw someone request a wiki once on the community portal
[12:36:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> well if it disagrees by all means, that's just my opinion
[12:36:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> OS thinks similarly iirc
[12:36:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> but we use necessary evils all the time
[12:37:07] <BlankEclair>	 as someone who browses sites without javascript, cloudflare is a bane of my existence
[12:37:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> once upon a time before miraheze all requests were done in their own portal section through text and a manual form
[12:37:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> yeah noscript doesn't agree with CF stuff a lot of the time
[12:37:41] <BlankEclair>	 half the time i land up on the interstitial page i just go "meh" and close the tab
[12:37:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to BlankEclair> I feel like they should just be able to do some php thing for the captcha
[12:37:59] <BlankEclair>	 the javascript thing is not always a captcha btw
[12:38:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> if I don't need or could live without a site I might close on that too
[12:38:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> should be able to, but JS everything including basic page loading is all the rage these day
[12:38:31] <BlankEclair>	 agreed >_>
[12:38:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I never use that kinda stuff in my web dev
[12:38:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Partly because I’m too dumb too
[12:39:11] <BlankEclair>	 oh hush, no self-deprecation today
[12:39:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Lmao
[12:39:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> I'm too dumb to by choice
[12:39:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> I've increasingly become attracted to minimal design
[12:39:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> js strictly as nifty snippets like email protection but even then, still doable without js
[12:40:19] <BlankEclair>	 i think the only thing on the rainverse wiki which requires js are birthday banners
[12:40:24] <BlankEclair>	 as a workaround to caching
[12:40:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to BlankEclair> Okay ms therapist. I lack much experience in JavaScript and don’t currently know how to approach such an implementation and as such just use server side rendering with things like Django and flask
[12:40:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Happy
[12:40:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> ?
[12:41:11] <BlankEclair>	 yes xD
[12:41:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> if only everyone sucked like that, we'd have a lighter and more navigable internet
[12:41:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Only thing is on the site I’m developing I do use a JS snippet to render the text formatting since there was already a JS snippet for that and I dont wanna reimplement to python
[12:41:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> ms therapist i have a question what if im too stupid for anything harder than js
[12:42:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> You can still make our text probably
[12:42:31] <BlankEclair>	 you don't have to beat yourself up on it
[12:42:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> im like a frog or perhaps a trex if its not something i can immediately see i lose track of it immediately
[12:43:02] <BlankEclair>	 (related: https://files.catbox.moe/d5t32o.png)
[12:45:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> me who can't jd
[12:45:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> js
[12:48:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to BlankEclair> Formal proposal to appoint BlankEclair as Miraheze Therapist. All in favor :SupportMH:
[12:48:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to pixldev> :StrongestSupportMH:
[12:48:22] <BlankEclair>	 xD
[12:48:28] <BlankEclair>	 and all i did is copy emily's line
[12:48:34] <BlankEclair>	 which was used on me by beth
[12:48:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Shush you
[12:48:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Let me have the bit
[12:48:48] <BlankEclair>	 okay ^^;
[12:50:05] <BlankEclair>	 related to not using javascript for trivial things: i fucking love <details>
[12:50:48] <BlankEclair>	 example: the expandable boxes on https://tild.es/lr8
[12:53:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to BlankEclair> What do that do exactly
[12:53:29] <BlankEclair>	 pixldev: let's you have closable and openable things, without javascript!!
[12:53:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Noted
[12:53:49] <BlankEclair>	 i've seen stuff like that implemented in javascript all. the. time.
[12:53:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> May use that on my own site I’m working on
[12:54:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Isn't that what mw-collapsible does
[12:55:20] <BlankEclair>	 yeah but doesn't that require javascript?
[12:55:26] <BlankEclair>	 at least it's open-by-default though
[12:55:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to originalauthority> This isn’t even about MW specifically
[12:56:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Also OA
[12:56:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Theoretically how much would someone need to pay you to open source your telepedia ManageWiki++ thing. Out of curiosity
[12:57:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> 5 million pounds
[12:57:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> In freedom money
[12:58:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> I've been working on this since december its taken a lot
[12:58:03] <BlankEclair>	 US$6302865.30
[12:59:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> pretty sure mw-collapsible is js based
[12:59:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> The codex accordian is completely css iirc
[12:59:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> hehe accordion
[13:16:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to raidarr> I’m just reminded of uh
[13:16:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> http://www.motherfuckingwebsite.com
[13:16:46] <BlankEclair>	 heh yep!
[13:17:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Goes for a walk. More important things in life....
[13:18:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to groupnebula563_0765> there's a couple variations on this that are pretty cool and beyond reproach on the modern internet
[13:18:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> one has like a handful of lines of CSS  that make it essentially modern internet with zero effort or scripting
[13:18:51] <BlankEclair>	 yeah it's like a three-page series
[13:18:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to raidarr> ah
[13:19:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> link to that?
[13:19:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> I only know of this one
[13:19:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> I was trying to find it, one uses a creative tld but I forget what it is
[13:19:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> ok here it is https://bestmotherfucking.website/
[13:19:46] <BlankEclair>	 http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com and https://bestmotherfucking.website/
[13:19:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> does http://ai still exist
[13:19:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> eclair got both
[13:21:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to groupnebula563_0765> I know it’s still accessible at http://offshore.ai but idk if the tld itself works anymore
[13:58:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crazierinzane> [1/3] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/443926951292567562/1271088686074826752
[13:58:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crazierinzane> [2/3] @rodejong 
[13:58:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crazierinzane> [3/3] Just curious because this seems to go against my understanding of the content policy. It looks like only Miraheze and Wikimedia Foundation forks have restrictions. Are there not currently existing forks from Fandom?
[13:59:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> that has been resolved internally, bottom line being yes we do permit  forks of fandom wikis as long as it isn't overwhelmingly clear it's a one person salt show taking advantage to make a fiefdom
[14:13:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hypercryptical> god bless NotAracham
[14:13:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Uh oh, what I do now?
[14:17:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hypercryptical> kinda new to miraheze. if my wiki has been approved and created, can i make another wiki page? like one page for one thing
[14:18:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hypercryptical> or do i have to cram all the info in one single page
[14:18:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> A single wiki can support multiple pages on different topics.
[14:19:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Starting_a_new_page
[14:19:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hypercryptical> thanks bro 👊
[14:52:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hypercryptical> how to edit mediawiki:common.css
[14:59:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hypercryptical> [1/2] what is meant by this? the user cant create an account?
[14:59:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hypercryptical> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271120732755202160/image.png?ex=66b62eee&is=66b4dd6e&hm=49f7a6052f1ad2da080759502c7d827abfbe92cc43e70137942bd6180f3c1109&
[15:01:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> it is the ability to create an account on that wiki
[15:02:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> revoking it doesn't prevent them from registering on another wiki, visiting and having the account attach from there though
[15:12:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hypercryptical> for a wiki that only allows users to just view, should it be on or off?
[15:14:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Hey so question
[15:14:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to hypercryptical> Doesn’t matter
[15:14:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> What you’ll want to do it disable the edit right
[15:14:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Do you recommend I make the page about me (yk the creator of the wiki I'm making) a regular page or a user page?
[15:15:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to tempette> User page should be about you, since it’s linked to wherever your name is
[15:15:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> In edits, log history ect
[15:15:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> [[User:PixDeVl]]
[15:15:30] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:PixDeVl
[15:15:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:PixDeVl>
[15:15:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Ah so I should just delete the regular page and replace it with my user one instead?
[15:20:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to tempette> You can move it to User:YourName
[15:20:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Or [[Special:MyPage]]
[15:20:55] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:MyPage
[15:20:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:MyPage>
[15:29:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> How do I view my members again?
[15:30:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> Special:ListUsers
[15:30:33] <SCIRON>	 hello team Miraheze, I'm having trouble setting a skin: default front page says " Skin and Logo/Favicon changes should be done through Special:ManageWiki on your wiki,", but Special:ManageWiki has no such option
[15:31:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> thats at Special:ManageWiki/settings, it should be one of the links in your sidebar that says "manage this wiki's..."
[15:33:11] <SCIRON>	 thanks, the hyperlink i was talking about just takes you to core settings
[15:45:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Would it be stealing to copy the way the pizza tower wiki shows thier rules?
[15:49:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> if the design is 1:1 it would be a good courtesy to attribute the inspiration
[15:51:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Alr alr
[16:01:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ss_raven> hi! im planning to open the wiki i created for open editing to my community soon; i wanted to know if it was reasonable to make a forum post (in the discord) for the slew of questions i have? ive never run a wiki before and would love to learn how to get a good foothold before i opened the wiki, as it were
[16:03:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths> Having a forum post does mean that it's easier to keep track of your questions since there's no risk of other people asking questions for their own thing
[16:03:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths> It's upto you if you say them in here or in a post
[16:10:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [1/2] Whats wrong with the hex code
[16:10:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271138549156020296/Screenshot_20240808_231018_Chrome.jpg?ex=66b63f86&is=66b4ee06&hm=69408c856103376f9ca0e63ce917e7479f85279fb4a809d4345349517d8365df&
[16:11:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ss_raven, replying to ghaztliousmoths> thats what i thought too! i guess i just wanted to ask here since i see most of the forum posts are more about specifics rather than  something more general that i was thinking
[16:12:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vladthemountain> [1/2] Hello, we're using an extension on alphaver.miraheze.org called [EmbedVideo](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EmbedVideo_(fork)), but the CSP is blocking us from embedding videos from bilibili.com, despite it being listed in the extension's `Supported Services` list. Is that something a bureaucrat can configure, or it's a global Miraheze policy?
[16:12:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vladthemountain> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271138990694727738/image.png?ex=66b63ff0&is=66b4ee70&hm=92494a4ad0d435911c88f84799cd4bae37612fb8a96d2c1715c1e252ffca56c6&
[16:17:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada, replying to tempette> border style isnt defined, it should be `border:3px solid #f79999`
[16:17:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Ohhhh
[16:31:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths> [1/2] Green links cuz the og brown was too similar
[16:31:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271143650964803627/Screenshot_20240808_172911_Chrome.png?ex=66b64447&is=66b4f2c7&hm=5f62508032a43bee646359ec9c62b29015f509f9386e8aa34a6bdcf315f3c1e9&
[16:31:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths> Fits with the plant theme at least
[17:32:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kojobailey> [1/2] why is this so zoomed in
[17:32:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kojobailey> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271159193424101428/image.png?ex=66b652c0&is=66b50140&hm=81429225d6f2460e2695ce9c718bfdef08623cff3683c60395c46cacdceea493&
[17:33:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kojobailey> [1/2] this is how it should look
[17:33:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kojobailey> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271159308293378058/JJBMC_Icon.png?ex=66b652dc&is=66b5015c&hm=786d54a8cda78f7498285f825c96f4e2cae390f97eb7c8861a4436dcb6ad21e6&
[17:33:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kojobailey> and I converted it to a `.ico` file
[17:33:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kojobailey> [1/2] shows fine as a favicon
[17:33:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kojobailey> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271159378917199913/image.png?ex=66b652ec&is=66b5016c&hm=0464a1f42d001887cb617ff402dc2989a0355260a9499706fc6acd675c285957&
[17:33:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kojobailey, replying to kojobailey> yet it is enlarged out of frame here
[17:34:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kojobailey> changing the zoom on the page doesn't change it either, so it's not like it's hidden or something
[17:34:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kojobailey> [1/2] the CSS is pretty inoffensive
[17:34:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kojobailey> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271159685822677113/image.png?ex=66b65336&is=66b501b6&hm=39f03b536bbccf9ff25a34aee25d5020655b0c0bfdf953037ec31c052100fd9f&
[17:34:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kojobailey> so...
[17:35:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kojobailey> [1/2] it fixes if I change the `background-size` parameter to `contain`
[17:35:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kojobailey> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271159883680579614/image.png?ex=66b65365&is=66b501e5&hm=0567c5fe817bc901beaea70c33f7ad753771c3d1cf5da18e756da0cf8e948266&
[17:36:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kojobailey> [1/2] So I guess I have a request:
[17:36:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kojobailey> [2/2] Can the CSS for the `#p-logo` be changed to have `background-size: contain`?
[17:36:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> going from the managewiki page it seems skins look for 135px by 135px
[17:36:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kojobailey> I'll change it on my own MediaWiki:Styles.css for now
[17:36:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kojobailey> or whatever it's called
[17:36:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kojobailey> Common.css
[17:36:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> common ye, or just the Vector.css
[17:36:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kojobailey, replying to raidarr> it's an ICO though, so it's weird that it doesn't auto resize properly
[17:37:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> yeah, not sure on that
[17:37:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kojobailey> [1/2] at least there is a solution :Prayge:
[17:37:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kojobailey> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271160432043884564/image.png?ex=66b653e8&is=66b50268&hm=0bfb8cc5ecd4be50d258f3c79762e78d4dfdd5f674e9016e90650b84eed088a5&
[17:41:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> new wiki?
[18:23:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e, replying to ch4rl1e> I still have this language issue btw - most of the site is in en-gb but for some reason some random parts are in Tsonga - my personal language is as its supposed to be
[18:28:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I recall there's a bug w/ en-gb
[18:31:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> how odd
[18:40:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> It's not exactly a bug
[18:40:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> It's just people keep translating stuff into en-gb instead of the correct language
[18:40:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> A lot
[18:41:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @nikerabbit might be able to fix them
[20:11:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e, replying to rhinosf1> yeah but I want it to be en-GB, it's set to en-GB lol
[20:11:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> Separate: how can I get confirmed user status on meta? I am trying to set up Oauth but need permissions
[20:11:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to ch4rl1e> Ye I know
[20:12:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I feel ye
[20:12:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> But nothing we can do
[20:12:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to ch4rl1e> @Meta Administrators
[20:12:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e, replying to rhinosf1> ofc, no worries, incredibly funny tho lol
[20:12:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <brandon.wm, replying to rhinosf1> what’s the username
[20:13:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @ch4rl1e
[20:13:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> er, `Ch4rl1e97`
[20:13:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Ch4rl1e97
[20:13:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> [[User:Ch4rl1e97]]
[20:13:46] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Ch4rl1e97
[20:13:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to ch4rl1e> It annoys me
[20:13:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Ch4rl1e97>
[20:15:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <brandon.wm> done
[20:16:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> Thank you BrandonWikiMedia
[20:29:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> [1/8] Hey, it seems like Cloudflare is blocking bot requests to the API.
[20:29:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> [2/8] @ch4rl1e has been trying to set up a recent changes feed using [RcGcDw](<https://gitlab.com/piotrex43/RcGcDw>) and the requests are blocked even when providing an Oauth token as authorization. So at this point we are out of ideas for possible work-arounds.
[20:29:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> [3/8] ```json
[20:30:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> [4/8] {
[20:30:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> [5/8]     "user-agent": "RcGcDw/{version}"
[20:30:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> [6/8]     "authorization": "Bearer OAuth.TOKEN......."
[20:30:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> [7/8] }
[20:30:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> [8/8] ```
[20:31:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to markusrost> Hey Markus, I’ll grab you to form ask our cloudflare guy to exempt it ^^
[20:31:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to markusrost> here we go https://forms.gle/TN46M1N3yJT8xmaG6
[20:32:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> Will this be general for all RcGcDw instances or would it have to be per-instance
[20:33:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> It would be per IP/User agent I think
[20:33:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> The form indicates per IP
[20:33:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> we may be able to do something where if you have a certain key in your UA it’s exempt
[20:33:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> I'd be running on a home server with a dynamic IP so that's a fat F for me
[20:33:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> Which feels annoying for users with dynamic ips
[20:34:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to markusrost> yeah. @rhinosf1 is the CF guy so he may be able to help more
[20:34:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I’m unfortunately not the person in charge of this, so I can’t be of much help here
[20:34:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> My apologies:(
[20:34:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> thank you for the pointers 🙂
[20:34:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Of course mate
[20:35:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> If rhinos has already fallen asleep cause British he should respond tomorrow
[20:36:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> it's only 9:30pm here 😛
[20:36:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> or you could fill the form and add under additional noted but probably better to just talk to rhinos
[20:36:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to ch4rl1e> idk man i dont get British
[20:36:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> also like no one hear knows what a sleep schedule is
[20:37:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost, replying to pixldev> I'll check with him in DMs 😄
[20:37:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> I'll not confuse things by adding further tickets
[20:37:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e, replying to pixldev> tbf neither do I
[20:37:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to markusrost> You can ask in #tech but to send IP stuff yeah email dm or form
[20:37:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to ch4rl1e> Oh don’t worry the cf stuff isn’t too much of a bother
[20:38:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> [1/2] I don't have any IP to send anyway, I'm not trying to run the script and my @Wiki-Bot is already exempt 🙃 
[20:38:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> [2/2] So it's just for checking if a general RcGcDw exception would be feasible
[20:39:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> [1/3] Actually seeing this part of the form:
[20:39:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> [2/3] > The UA includes either a clearly indicated Miraheze Username or contact email/webpage
[20:39:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> [3/3] Do you know if maybe stuff like `User:` in the user agent is exempt already?
[20:40:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> discord owner added wiki-bot so for me the purpose is kinda done with but for the sake of future RcGcDw users i feel this is something worth ironing out anyway
[20:42:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> There is a comments box, you can say you have something unique in the UA
[20:43:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> If ip won't work
[20:43:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> But hello
[20:44:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> From my understanding, you are running RcGcDw and its blocked and you have a dynamic ip @ch4rl1e
[20:44:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> Hello, this is true yes
[20:44:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> fwiw I've created an OAuth consumer if this helps at all
[20:44:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Fill out the form and say exactly that in the comments box
[20:45:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Make sure your UA includes your email or username
[20:45:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> And I will add an exemption in the morning for that username / email
[20:45:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> this feels like a horrible way to have to do things 😦
[20:45:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> [1/3] hi sorry to interrupt, but does anyone know why {{PAGENAME}} isnt working here
[20:45:56] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:PAGENAME 
[20:45:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271207791931166762/image.png?ex=66b68003&is=66b52e83&hm=5a266f441469916523e9cdc6ca97a8304cf237831ef648f14200412f0c5b1e98&
[20:45:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1271207792132227173/image.png?ex=66b68003&is=66b52e83&hm=32d560726eb049fbe3d37e8a5ef669fb510af56a42e4a24c7983a4cf58fc08b8&
[20:46:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Blame the people who keep hitting us with denial of service attacks @ch4rl1e
[20:46:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> yeah that's fair
[20:46:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> It is a horrible way to do things
[20:46:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> But I have nothing better tbh
[20:46:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> within like an hour of our wiki existing we got a chain of people raiding lol
[20:46:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost, replying to tedkalashnikov> Because it's a redirect. `#REDIRECT` is parsed before anything else, so you can't use magic words or templates in them
[20:46:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov, replying to markusrost> aw man, that sucks. haha oh well, thank you!
[20:47:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> Why in gods name is your whole wiki in comic sans
[20:47:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> im dyslexic + vision issues so comic sans suits me. its a private wiki
[20:48:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> anyway - @rhinosf1 I'll not make the request now as I have the bot in the discord and that's good enough for me - but RcGcDw or however it's called can add that process into their README? (Markus time :v )
[20:48:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost, replying to tedkalashnikov> You can use `{{subst:PAGENAME}}` during the redirect creation btw, it will input the actual name on save
[20:48:12] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/subst:Template:PAGENAME 
[20:48:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov, replying to markusrost> so THATS how substitution works. omg thank you
[20:48:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to ch4rl1e> It probably won't be a process forever tbh
[20:49:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> but for now 😄
[20:49:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> As soon as we can do better we will
[20:49:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> having the form link there will means people don't spend an hour at silly times of day asking what's going on 😛
[20:50:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> but yes, sounds good 😄
[20:52:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> [1/2] Ok actually, turns our the issue was actually in RcGcDw 😅 
[20:52:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> [2/2] For the one initial request to check if a wiki is valid, we forgot to provide the headers provided in the settings, which includes the custom user-agent.
[20:53:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> We block some generic UAs and we block no UA
[20:53:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e> :EpicFaceMH:
[20:53:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I'm not saying which generic UAs
[20:53:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost, replying to rhinosf1> It probably would have been the generic python requests one 😄
[20:54:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> That is one of them yes
[20:54:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> There's a few other languages too
[20:55:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> The Python one should give a useful error if you look at the .text on the requests object
[20:57:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> yeah, we saw that, which made us notice the missing UA
[20:58:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost, replying to rhinosf1> Though the it mentions "User-Agent Guidelines" but doesn't actually provide a link to said guidelines
[20:59:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Fair
[20:59:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I can make it clearer
[20:59:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> It's better than generic cloudflare block
[20:59:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> yeah
[20:59:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Which just says you're banned
[20:59:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Which some give
[21:00:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> We were able to get `RcGcDw/{version} User:USERNAME` UA working, so nothing for you to fix 🙂
[21:02:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Cool
[21:07:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> _is off to sleep_
[21:36:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aels224> I'm confuse, just found a wiki that uses the same Miraheze fix of the Fandom Tooltips and yet they can do what I can't, I'm down to comparing the code to figure out why... 😫
[21:40:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aels224> Doesn't make any sense it's the same so how on earth can they show a page as tooltip...
[21:43:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to ch4rl1e> dont worry her discord is to
[21:45:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ch4rl1e, replying to aels224> oh i'd love to know that, it's a great feature
[21:46:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aels224> Yeah, I had a setup working for my fandom but couldn't replicate it here and yet taht person managed to do so and not by altering the JS 👀
[22:07:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aels224> Argh I think it could be a DPL3 thing..
[22:26:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aels224> Okay I think I isolated the part that does the tooltip but it has a part I can't manage to interpret nor tell from what it is.
[23:37:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crazierinzane> Remember me
[23:38:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tatiannaz> question - is it allowed to have two wikis open for the same project? i have a wiki about my fictional world & id like to open up another wiki dedicated to collecting and documenting interviews, news articles, and current events in my world
[23:39:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aels224> Like a in-universe thing ?
[23:39:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tatiannaz> yes
[23:44:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aels224> No idea, personally I would have done it in the same 🤔
[23:46:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <girlwholikesprogressivehouse, replying to tatiannaz> I don't see why not
[23:49:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aels224, replying to aels224> [1/3] Okay I drop, can't figure it out it's clearly beyond my level 😕 
[23:49:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aels224, replying to aels224> [2/3] Here's the link if some that are also interested into Tooltips want to take a look, it's when you over on the character images.
[23:49:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aels224, replying to aels224> [3/3] <https://cravesaga.miraheze.org/wiki/Tier_List/Artifact>
[23:58:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to tatiannaz> Definitely an edge case on the whole "no duplicates" policy, but we've had a small number of approved precedents with varying success.