[00:31:17] mfw the funny piano spins while i try to figure out if i wanna set up css or js [01:24:43] There are more teens in our volunteer ranks than you'd expect, but agreed that the room does skew older. 🙂 [01:27:56] Not my fault I spent my late teens being stuck in Unity and Blender 😭 [01:53:48] Not necessarily time wasted, those sorts of skills can be unexpectedly valuable down the line [02:09:40] That's fair! [02:39:38] in the cosmic skin is it possible to hide or move the recent changes thing? [03:16:31] [1/2] u can hide it in managewiki additional settings > styling [03:16:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1273842803683885098/image.png?ex=66c0160f&is=66bec48f&hm=291c7cf507ea11435d54c6ad70714357d19d58b6438b964dbd5bad27727ba33b& [03:35:15] oohh [03:35:25] what does sticky mean? [03:36:46] it stays on screen as you scroll [03:36:51] oohh [03:39:32] Reminds me, I need to figure out a nicer way to do a multi-axis sticky table [03:53:31] ugh i want to start doing actual progress for this but the Common CSS thing is so brain emptying for me rn lmfao [03:53:42] idr what everything does lmao [04:53:48] Hi, had fun reading https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1248279925195014204, is #discord-forums just an open forum for anyone to waltz in and make/vote on server suggestions and what not? [04:57:23] Hello - can you please confirm I have changed the skin of my wiki and it is still showing previous when I open my wiki URL and after refreshing the page the skin changed to the new skin, can you please confirm how much will it take the skin to reflec the new one? [04:58:35] By the way - I have changed the skin in preferences, in global appearance and in the addition settings as well 3-4 days before [05:00:21] and when opening the URL from mobile phone browser - it shows the new skin [05:25:22] [1/2] link the wiki? [05:25:22] [2/2] you might need to #verify to send links here tho [05:33:49] [1/2] why are my images not showing [05:33:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1273877355466850395/image.png?ex=66c0363d&is=66bee4bd&hm=2f3fe615a7de20c2b217fd3ea5467dada0f669c68400c591c66824f8b5675493& [05:36:27] hcm.miraheze.org [05:37:21] no format at the end of filename -> wiki thinks file doesn't exist [05:40:04] `[[File:Texture Bg Title]]` needs some sort of ".png" or "."identifier before the brackets. [05:40:04] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Texture_Bg_Title [05:45:26] thanks [05:46:23] [1/2] Is it possible to add this image to the background? [05:46:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1273880519133757524/image.png?ex=66c0392f&is=66bee7af&hm=3fdfead9cf9bd34d987b4b944c2ae01403c6f0df26c39b00e9ea3a22eb85a54b& [05:46:40] or can the background only be white? [05:47:19] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1273880753964580894/image.png?ex=66c03967&is=66bee7e7&hm=0eabfefc42d0188ddfd5339b9f4f3e8dbed45149f41e9bfaa4e63c2eb55ea7cd& [05:47:23] with CSS, via `MediaWiki:Monobook.css` page [05:47:55] oh, thank you [05:48:16] idk is there a setting for Monobook in styling? considering it uses its own image [05:48:38] but I think CSS is still a better solution [05:49:53] which skin are you trying to use? I get broken look on mobile and Timeless on desktop [05:50:55] if you're using Timeless for desktop I suggest to just disable MobileFrontend extension, because that skin is mobile adaptive and that way you won't have to maintain 2 looks separately [05:53:01] I want to use Timeless for both mobile and Desktop [05:53:55] then just disable MobileFrontend extension [05:55:47] the only difference between using and not using it, while having Timeless on both, would be just collapsed headers on mobile [05:57:46] unrelated, but are you sure "IT Support" isa good username? kinda falls into impersonation [06:05:30] can i change the font? make it like in the game (i already downloaded it) [06:05:46] so that instead of the usual font there would be another one [06:07:30] haven’t even started boot camp yet … ☹️ [06:10:14] [1/4] many things are possible via CSS, but if you're uploading font on wiki it should not be pirated [06:10:15] [2/4] free fonts can be imported (i.e. w/o uploading file on wiki) from places like Google Fonts [06:10:15] [3/4] here's an example of both ways, since the wiki uses 2 custom fonts (one from Google, another "bought" for free) [06:10:15] [4/4] [06:18:54] [1/2] Uncheck this thing, right? [06:18:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1273888701029683253/image.png?ex=66c040ce&is=66beef4e&hm=044d8e7840d3729a60d3a0d0195f71b051c8c575fa5fa3a9fadc01b0cfccb012& [06:20:12] [1/3] no, just disable the extension all together [06:20:12] [2/3] in "Manage this wiki's extensions" menu [06:20:13] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1273889027178889342/IMG_20240816_092000.jpg?ex=66c0411b&is=66beef9b&hm=6e34e4f5700fccfd55829b4ca1f4a6fabdb05fe164d12d440e510f5dc3ccd0f5& [06:21:56] [1/2] Disabled [06:21:56] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1273889461813514302/image.png?ex=66c04183&is=66bef003&hm=dedd852e01bdaae1cb0978304a4f84c3f35d81cc46b183d0ef9af8da1367d4bc& [06:22:45] yea, now just wait for wiki to catch up w/ the change [06:27:04] ah hell nah chanserv just left [06:27:09] oh oops not offtopic [06:36:19] Gonna need to message dude about Lua [07:55:37] what would be the best channel to get help setting up pages on miraheze from a closed fandom wiki ? and general miraheze help haha [08:00:09] In here or in #support [08:12:45] cool ty [08:16:24] [1/2] regarding migration from Fandom I suggest to check [[Moving a wiki to Miraheze]] [08:16:24] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Moving_a_wiki_to_Miraheze [08:16:24] [2/2] Fandom should give at least xml dump of a wiki they closed, as for retrieving files in such case - I don't know [08:16:26]

[08:18:16] At some point I'll need to bug somebody about skins and custom CCSS/CJS's, but I'm honestly just happy that it's functioning rly nicely for me x3 [08:20:35] hmm? [08:20:56] btw dev wiki accepts various snippets, CSS/JS included [08:24:47] ty! [08:26:10] actually tempted to try Canada's category images [08:30:04] :nomChocoStrawberry: [08:31:00] i used softcell wiki to test it while i was making it lol (just running the js in the console) [08:31:11] although, question - if image for the page is forced through WikiSEO does it still uses what PageImages gives? [08:31:39] hm i think it does? [08:31:44] aw :pupCoffeeMH: [08:31:45] Is there something like VRT on Miraheze? [08:35:57] the what [08:36:16] if that's what fandom is calling their vandalism team, then it would be called CVT here [08:37:39] No, i mean Volunteer Response Team, just like in Wikimedia [08:39:13] They are answering e-mails [08:39:21] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Volunteer_Response_Team [08:39:41] And helping people with solving problems [08:39:45] oh i think it actually does! just tested it [08:41:41] nothing like that, no [08:42:15] something on those lines could be interesting to look at I suppose [08:47:16] Yeah [08:47:21] That's why I'm asking, because I wanted to apply [08:48:39] Where could I officially submit such an idea? [08:51:11] what does it do? [08:51:13] you mean, pageimgaes are hooked, wikiseo ignored? [08:51:49] [1/2] ah, thanks discord, very cool [08:51:49] [2/2] shit connection [08:51:59] I've already written it, you can also see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Volunteer_Response_Team [08:52:18] nice [08:53:18] if emails are sent to Miraheze it must be steward and T&S stuff in majority of case [08:53:26] [1/3] (testing this on gogigantic) as in it gets the _small version of the image thats set by wikiseo and not the first image on the page which doesnt have _small [08:53:26] [2/3] it should just grab whichever shows as the page image on the page information [08:53:26] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1273927588594585620/image.png?ex=66c06505&is=66bf1385&hm=799b05e4e3377f7266c707d73f6625201fcde04994638a2598fdac1b3d8bce37& [08:59:59] [1/2] ah shit actually idk i didnt realise the character page uses the _small version (head in hands) [08:59:59] [2/2] do u have a page w a very distinct wikiseo image i can test this on lol [09:00:55] They call them the SOAPs [09:01:03] Spam obliteration and prevention team [09:01:08] Pretty funny name haha [09:03:39] goes to show how much I get out on fandom or on wikipedia [09:04:06] you could raise it on the community portal to see what the early response is [09:04:17] if it is distinctly favorable it may be worth considering an rfc to implement [09:04:41] [[community portal]] and [[requests for comment]] respectively [09:04:41] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/community_portal https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/requests_for_comment [09:04:43]

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[2/2] [09:05:22] [1/2] Pizza Tower Wiki uses PI and we had to force wikiSEO image in templates [09:05:22] [2/2] [09:05:55] To be fair info about fandom and their employees is somewhat hard to find [09:05:55] [1/2] hm [09:05:56] [2/2] previews indeed don't work [09:07:10] Fandom.com is practically a news site and their community hub wiki is pretty out of the way [09:07:15] do we have phorge task on that? [09:09:48] [1/2] oh sweet it works i think? all the gifs are showing and all [09:09:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1273931707862749259/image.png?ex=66c068db&is=66bf175b&hm=ec2f0516a596d6e93745f072282dafc244dad35f83abffc2599a4e5ba74ed28f& [09:10:42] yay [09:13:13] That’s cool [09:21:52] https://tenor.com/view/black-magic-cat-magic-zea-rexz-cats-skin-walker-gif-11385234637379435971 [09:47:13] what's that inline quote template on meta again [09:47:34] Template:Talk quote inline [10:29:40] [[phab:T12472]] pls \:| [10:29:40] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phab:T12472 [10:29:41]

[11:00:27] I started a discussion about VRT on Miraheze and made a few logos and proposals: [[Community portal#Volunteer Response Team]], [[User:BZPN/VRT proposal]] [11:00:27] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_portal#Volunteer_Response_Team https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:BZPN/VRT_proposal [11:00:28]

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[2/2] [11:02:20] @raidarr, maybe you could express your opinion about VRT there? [11:05:51] The only people who currently do emails are senior CVT(GA), tech, and stewards. Oh and Ts [11:06:33] I’d highly recommend being active in the community for a time instead of immediately pushing for a role to be created to apply for it [11:06:52] Per [[WP:HATSHOP]] 🙃 [11:06:52] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WP:HATSHOP [11:06:54]

[11:07:08] Oh I know, I was referring to in person meetups [11:07:55] There is a saying on my native Wiki, that _the more administrators, the better the work_. So we can say that the more volunteers, the faster and more pleasant the work will be on Miraheze. [11:08:34] Having more administrators is good. If the community knows they will be good administrators [11:08:49] You joined the community as far as I know less than a week ago [11:09:21] I haven’t seen you demonstrate everything I’d want to see to !vote for any role really [11:09:39] running a wikifarm is slightly different from running a single wiki i think [11:10:03] I don’t think I’d ever vote for someone I’ve only seen for a week, because I fundamentally haven’t been able to verify the traits I believe matter are there [11:10:06] Absolutely [11:10:25] Did you mean meta community? Because you don't think I'm worse for it, do you? That would be rude and disrespectful. [11:10:39] Pardon? [11:11:07] I mean discord, I don’t know who you are on meta [11:11:57] Your statements seem as if you want to show that I am only here to gain permissions and that I have no importance because the community does not know me. [11:12:11] Discord profile says April 2024, not a week ago soooo [11:12:25] Maybe I'm taking it wrong. [11:12:27] Anyway [11:12:37] I have been using Miraheze for about 5 months. [11:13:22] I would really like to see more continuously active users, and with VRT we can encourage new users to use Miraheze. [11:13:47] Because we could provide them with constant and professional help. [11:14:20] [1/2] That is not the case. I am saying I currently believe it’s a bit too soon to request advanced permissions, I in no way believe you have no value here simply because you’re new. If that was the case everyone here would be worthless since we were all new at one point. I’m just saying there are things I need to see to know someone is a good volunteer, and I [11:14:20] [2/2] need more than a week to see it [11:14:26] Exactly you should understand yourself how qualified you are? [11:14:35] Pardon? [11:15:07] lol nah [11:15:32] too many admins and more than half of them would do anything, that's my experience - on local wikis [11:16:01] Oh, you are right. [11:16:03] And You have 5 months of experience that doesn't show your qualifications it's about your contributions which are not so much till now so it's early. [11:16:45] Not really. It’s still volunteers with no obligation for the work, that fundamentally can’t lead to constant attention, in the same way there will be always a RequestWiki backlog. It’s unfortunate but hey. More good volunteers always helps of course, but even then I wouldn’t call it professional help since there are things we don’t know how to help with [11:16:50] But this is not how it should be... [11:16:54] To be clear I like the idea of VRTs [11:17:24] Yes I also support the idea of VRTs. [11:17:31] (Mediana will reply to you in a sec not ignoring you sorry) [11:17:49] I actually think it’s been thought of, Harej was looking for a new software that can replace [[reports:]] that would also support multiple channels [11:17:49] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/reports: [11:17:50]

[11:17:55] It’s on Phorge somewhere [11:18:07] It's ok. [11:18:23] But discord already covers support a lot and may honestly be better than VRTs [11:18:28] joined in April but I don't remember jagoda being active until few days ago [11:18:40] Oh [11:18:45] > [16/08/2024 21:17] It’s on Phorge somewhere [11:18:46] Wait actually yeah that’s a me good [11:18:46] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12328 [11:18:50] Goof [11:18:56] I read august not April [11:18:58] I apologize [11:19:15] W Claire [11:19:18] You're right, but not participating in the discussion doesn't mean not knowing it. [11:19:26] That’s fair [11:19:32] yeah, but you better participate [11:19:39] I still don't know you [11:19:39] i have the ability to quickly find references :p [11:19:44] as a community member [11:19:51] My comment about one week was from my misunderstanding you joined aug 9th [11:19:52] you see [11:19:54] (i'm still working on some personal-ish stuff, so i'm not gonna respond here much, but i'll lurk) [11:20:08] Good luck 💜 [11:20:24] There’s stuff so much more people to respond [11:20:24] Not everyone wants to join Discord, not everyone knows about it. I prefer traditional methods of contact, especially when it comes to, for example, copyright. [11:20:36] there's Community portal [11:20:39] there's IRC [11:20:39] and irc! [11:20:47] we know not many people like Discord [11:20:48] but i suppose if you want to ask privately or so [11:20:52]