[00:00:24] Must be raining where the servers are [00:00:58] Haha [00:23:22] on gosh bro i am awaiting my wiki to be approved [00:30:52] we have so few wiki creators, please be patient [00:36:35] [1/2] i'm already making images for my wiki 😈 [00:36:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1276339270373871688/Norania_Official.png?ex=66c92b13&is=66c7d993&hm=b4ed7907ea605e92a8afab0e022aa88c1b4b428f3488b71c7bc5480e10aefc5e& [00:39:59] I just realized how fast new wikis are being created it went from 9086 to 9101 in a few hours [00:43:06] laughs in [[special:RequestWikiQueue]] [00:43:06] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/special:RequestWikiQueue [00:43:29]

[00:52:43] we have so many requests [00:52:58] and it'l be handled by 2-3 wiki creators [00:55:16] Maybe we should revisit that AI idea… [01:01:04] and I'm waiting for CreateWiki API [01:01:29] at least we can auto-decline staled 'Needs more details' requests [01:03:04] boom boom boom boom [01:03:10] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1276345960347205775/IMG_2444.png?ex=66c9314e&is=66c7dfce&hm=95fe215ba4584d2f1393c6e8fea85e0f1158bae57ca3f36ca2a53c62a3894730& [01:03:37] forgot i shouldn't send useless pics in general [01:15:14] You guys are bustin'. Seeing all those requests, I'm surprised mine got through so quickly [01:18:59] I have determination. Mine will get through soon it'll get through soon I believe. [01:34:01] @pixldev how do i enable visual editor? [01:58:08] enable the VisualEditor extention [02:01:22] Um, when the embeds will be fixen? [02:47:16] Lol, I just came in to ask that [02:47:22] It's really inconvenient [02:47:39] [1/2] breh i'm trying to make a portable info box but when i try to enter the info box builder all it does is load and its been loading for like five minutes. either my wifi is horrible or im doing something wrong [02:47:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1276372252207743027/IMG_2451.jpg?ex=66c949ca&is=66c7f84a&hm=d6eb1ef517da1a49ecbe33275b61d70da06a034b7e96165ee190873c31b35388& [02:49:17] okay nevermind it works [02:49:20] i guess it was my wifi [02:49:21] i do remember it needing a refresh [02:49:43] idk why but refreshing the page usually fixes it [02:52:30] I can commit to crushing 50 or so this evening [02:52:58] Currently out to dinner [03:01:23] Believe it or not, this isn't too bad. There have been days when the queue is 4+ pages pending [03:34:35] is there a way to make the #if parser function for templates have an AND condition? i.e. two parameters should be not blank for it to display something [03:35:17] depends on how you set that up i suppose [03:42:40] figured it out in a more roundabout way @.@ the amount of ifs and switches is makign my head spin [03:49:19] what are you gonna use it for? :o [03:50:19] that's what I usually have to do lol [03:50:38] is stack `#if` functions on top of each other [04:45:40] yeaaah [04:46:01] the joy of parser functions [06:40:49] I have a Wiki on this platform and I want a new skin to be created for it in Odd Squad gold if you have ever heard of the TV show Odd Squad [06:59:16] <.labster> Okay lukas3232, go ahead and create your new skin, and we can add it to your wiki. [07:00:00] that's a bit terse [07:00:32] you'll need someone to create the skin for you, either yourself (if you have the know how) or someone who know [07:01:02] you can also apply custom css to a skin, such as what https://rainworld.miraheze.org does (there's additional css applied on top of the vector theme) [07:20:32] then who knows [07:26:21] Does anyone know how to create a skin for your Wiki [07:26:29] if you ever had a skin on your Wiki [07:27:33] All wikis have a skin :p [07:27:43] I haven't ever done a custom one but I found this: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_make_a_MediaWiki_skin [07:27:58] Good luck! [07:29:31] I do not understand that type of coding that's why I need help [07:34:18] I don't think most of us here know how to either [07:34:33] making skins is not an easy feat [07:37:36] thanks for your help I know that you are sorry that you cannot do it for me [07:38:45] Lukas3232, you said that you wanted the wiki to be in "Odd Squad Gold", do you want to just change the colours or change the entire layout of the buttons/ui of the wiki? [07:40:05] just change the color of the background and change the logo if you can find a Odd Squad logo maker online send it to me [07:42:16] Well, have you tried looking for a "Odd Squad Logo Maker Online" yourself? Or just tried to make one from scratch or photoshop? [07:43:39] I do not have photoshop on my computer and I have tried but it just shows me results to how to create a Odd Squad badge from scratch or some AI website [07:44:16] Alright [07:44:24] I'll try looking for one for you [07:45:17] [1/2] Is this the logo? [07:45:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1276447156449837066/The_Odd_Squad.png?ex=66c98f8d&is=66c83e0d&hm=c5a18137d60bf775e23984867c9d582c480585d825d551fbca098387dd514f12& [07:46:46] yes that is the logo [07:46:48] [1/2] luks3232 - by "adding new skin" we understand like changing the whole layout of the site, complicated stuff in short [07:46:48] [2/2] if you want to just change colors/vibe of your wiki, with a skin we already have here on Miraheze, then there's nothing grand to code/add/request, you need to modify wiki's CSS via page for that [07:47:22] I do not know where that is [07:48:08] MediaWiki:Common.css and skin specific, for example if you use default skin it's gonna be MediaWiki:Vector-2022.css [07:48:13] There are versions of this image without the text, but they're not as high quality, could you tell me what alterations you want for the logo, I'll make the edits myself [07:48:28] actually I use Vector 2010 [07:48:38] it looks better pleasing to the eyes [07:48:50] MediaWiki:Vector.css it is then [07:50:04] but I don't know where it is though [07:50:34] look [07:50:52] page name is a portion which goes after /wiki/ in URL [07:51:48] [1/2] for example [07:51:49] [2/2] [07:52:08] by default these CSS pages are empty [07:53:19] I found a custom CSS button but it doesn't link anywhere [07:53:43] I'm not sure what are you talking about [07:54:31] this https://odd.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Lukas3434/vector.css?action=edit&redlink=1 [07:56:14] That's your user page [07:56:47] [1/3] yeah, as I said these pages by default are non existent [07:56:47] [2/3] also this is user CSS, not site wide, i.e. only you will see changes you make here [07:56:48] [3/3] it's good for testing tho [07:58:24] if something doesn't exist, you create it [07:58:52] can you resend me that link [07:59:54] also applying to another thing the words I want on that logo are Odd Squad Wiki [08:00:08] - this is on your wiki [08:01:36] I don't really get anything except this all CSS here will be loaded for users of the vector skin [08:02:46] [1/2] because by default it's empty, man, what I've said to you previously? [08:02:46] [2/2] the point is that you should add your own changes to CSS on that page to change the look of the wiki [08:06:40] [1/2] you can try to look at other wikis which already done that, like I've sent link earlier, but if you don't have basic knowledge of CSS you most likely will confuse yourself [08:06:40] [2/2] now, ain't going to teach you CSS, there are plenty of free online tutorials on it [08:10:32] <.labster> I feel like our documentation on this could be better :/ [08:40:33] we don't have any CSS guides I think [08:40:53] comes down to directing people to w3schools for me and then patching up holes with select mediawiki documentation to apply those basics [08:41:11] pretty much [08:41:41] I don't feel like compiling a list of classes of different skins tho [08:42:24] for vector they could very well change that whenever anyway [08:42:53] I've waffed about on plain reviewing skins long enough so unless the bug really strikes you, better off to give people tools to figure that out themselves [08:43:44] perhaps with a primer on 1. using inspect element, 2. using w3schools to learn the raw basics, 3. introduce how to apply those basics to wiki css (probably not in that order) [09:04:38] hiya! is there an update if this extension has been updated for miraheze? the original writer has done the requested fix as well [09:07:55] i never got to ask too, how/where did you find the syntax for this? [09:23:06] ss_raven: ah, i forgot to tell you that i requested that miraheze update the extension on their servers: https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12500 [09:23:21] as for the syntax, i read the php code (someone probably should document it...) [09:24:01] thanks! [09:24:15] so this must be what the pilgrims felt like [09:27:12] i didn't quite understand how it formats dates, so i think that's why i didn't bother to add documentation [09:27:31] i now feel the urge to look into it though, so i might write some up on its mediawiki page [09:56:34] [1/5] Hello - I have set 'HasSomeColors' skin to my wiki - but when I open the URL it is showing previous skin and as soon as I logged in the skin suddenly changed. I have set the settings in attached in the screenshots [09:56:34] [2/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1276480192130449449/image.png?ex=66c9ae51&is=66c85cd1&hm=5373eb7d0ec4c4856d7ac5ed00869dd8917d5220bef914c3d30e08415a95fe16& [09:56:34] [3/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1276480192365203516/image.png?ex=66c9ae51&is=66c85cd1&hm=7447b7572190a7740eb3a409d84f3da65d24bfd10355567fa09335520b5dc15e& [09:56:35] [4/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1276480192658931782/image.png?ex=66c9ae51&is=66c85cd1&hm=a4420fa5bba6853b319799ce1ed55d393fe4d4f82e831037b92e383a51099025& [09:56:35] [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1276480192881233950/image.png?ex=66c9ae51&is=66c85cd1&hm=ecea924189298c9d5999a8b69a9bec38b317a529373350ecf9a13c11ec51b58c& [09:57:31] avengers9309: i hypothesise that this is because of varnish or cloudflare caching, what happens if you add random url query parameters when logged out? [10:00:17] [1/3] Because you set the skin in your user preferences, which only work when you are logged in. [10:00:18] [2/3] Logged out, it will take the wiki default skin. [10:00:18] [3/3] If you want the wiki to have the "Have some colours" Skin, you need to do that in Manage Wiki [10:00:37] > [23/08/2024 20:00] [1/3] Because you set the skin in your user preferences, which only work when you are logged in. [10:00:39] see the first image [10:06:21] [1/2] you are changing skins quite often, aren't you? there's significant delay in skin update between desktop and mobile, logged in and out [10:06:22] [2/2] also reminder, the point of mobile mode is to have different skin for small screens, if you're using the same skin in both settings (first screenshot) just disable MobileFrontend [10:09:09] Yes because we need to see what skin is best for us - now this 'HasSomeColors' is best for us and we have decided to make it as our permanent skin for Desktop and mobile (if it support) [10:13:12] somehow screenshots on mediawiki were enough for me [10:19:24] ss_raven: i've fleshed out the extension page, hopefully it helps: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TimezoneConverter [10:31:25] thanks! [10:31:36] you're welcome ^_^ [12:17:00] Is there a way to limit which skins users can use? [12:18:28] nvm found it [12:23:13] skipskins yes [15:14:54] Would there be a way to use an image as a header and have it have text on the TOC [15:15:39] [1/3] So instead of being blank I could have it say absorption [15:15:39] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1276560492827250711/IMG_4759.png?ex=66c9f91a&is=66c8a79a&hm=86c39e26126e76e16e8df28f8b275b5171ffaccc99db6ffc4e972feb4f9bcbac& [15:15:40] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1276560493208801290/IMG_4761.png?ex=66c9f91a&is=66c8a79a&hm=0eed6adb7adb91f1daa95a4ed3cf13a62a4ed675ff31c3aed46fe92318f645ab& [15:20:15] [1/6] u can put the header in a display none and it will still show up in the toc [15:20:15] [2/6] ``` [15:20:16] [3/6]

[15:20:16] [4/6] ==Antiheal== [15:20:16] [5/6] /div [15:20:16] [6/6] ``` [15:28:10] Galaxo2 account was locked in May 23, 2024 on Miraheze Meta 😦 [15:30:10] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Galaxo2 [15:30:49] We would give unlock your Miraheze account soon until the September 23, 2024. [15:45:17] [1/2] whats the extension that lets you do this when clicking an image, rather than redirecting you to the file page? [15:45:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1276567952128344127/image.png?ex=66ca000d&is=66c8ae8d&hm=330ffc69e185a52131ec252be7d1177230b219e0dd92dbb0e8398cdfca62f690& [15:47:23] i love that the mw-enhancedchanges-arrow thingie is still wonk xD [15:47:30] multimedia viewer [16:37:31] Hi friends, this is me musing, but what would be the way to dynamically grab images from your wiki using Javascript? [16:38:01] Say if I have all images under a format and Im trying to write a script that creates an element using a given parameter, how do I actually retrieve the image URL [16:38:36] Or would it be enough to create a div with content [[File:.png]] and style it after ? Idk if that makes sense [16:38:36] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:%3cFilename%3e.png [16:38:55] Err this would be inserted into a page that doesnt normally have images [16:44:49] So, adding images with JS that’s not in wiki text..? [16:47:48] yes [16:48:04] Specifically I want to add images next to entries in a category page [16:48:15] I.e. little thumbnails of each pages associated image [16:48:25] I dont know if [[File:]] wikitext would work?? [16:48:25] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File: [16:48:34] (slips this under the door https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Dynamic_Categories) [16:49:15] Oo [16:49:38] [[File:{{}}.{{}}|{{}}|{{}}]] my belovid [16:49:38] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:%7b%7b%7d%7d.%7b%7b%7d%7d [16:49:41] Hmmmmmm [16:58:33] 👏 [17:40:44] Thank you!! [19:10:27] I noticed that my wiki doesn't update on mobile version until weeks after I've made a change. I've tried clearing cache and browser data on my phone multiple times, as have my friends, but it still shows previous versions of the site for several weeks. Is there a way I can fix this, or is it normal for mobile version to take so long to update? [19:13:40] sideaffect of current way cloudflair works w/ miraheze [19:14:15] oh ok. Thanks! [19:19:26] @rhinosf1 should we try to established a cleaner way for people to request wikis have their CF cache purged cause this is happening a lot [19:21:45] Tbh I'm not very technically savvy so if someone laid out a clear and simple way to explain how to do that, in a way a 5 year old may understand, I'd be so thankful 😂 [19:22:22] I’d love to, unfortunately to my knowledge it’s something that has to be carpet bombed by a tech team member with access to Cloudflare [19:22:26] Hence [19:22:32] We bully mr M1 [19:22:44] Ah I see lol! [19:22:56] I love cloudflare I hate cloudflare [19:23:33] I'm guessing cloudflare is some kind of...program...that takes data from the desktop version of the site and converts it to mobile? [19:24:41] No [19:25:30] It’s a cloud infrastructure that you go through to access miraheze. We use it because it can much more effectively deal with DDoS and other attacks we were getting with their far more vast resources [19:25:38] They also have caching. [19:25:59] Basically, saving a page so the software doesn’t have to redraw it from source each view [19:26:21] The issue arrises when clearing the cache ie when a page has been updated doesn’t cooperate [19:26:31] So the saved and displayed version is outdated [19:26:44] Although often logged in users bypass the cache [19:27:01] [[User:BlankEclair/Caching]] [19:27:01] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:BlankEclair/Caching [19:27:02]

[19:27:10] More in depth explanation [19:27:20] Oh I see [19:27:24] Also [[w:Cloudflare]] [19:27:24] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare [19:27:25]

[19:27:51] The migration has been a weee bit messy [19:28:01] Because it was kinda rushed due to some heavy attacks [19:28:33] It’s unfortunate but hey [19:28:49] It’s not hard for a tech team member to manually purge [19:29:07] I’d definitely like to find out what is going wrong with the Purging system [19:29:16] Oh my gosh. Well even if it takes a while for mobile to update, at least it updates. A friend of mine told me that he already sees the changes, so maybe my mobile version and others will update soon. [19:29:29] Is he logged in? [19:29:40] That normally bypasses cache [19:29:44] No, when we're on mobile, we're both logged out [19:29:52] i feel like mobile cache was funky even before cloudflare [19:30:13] Mediawiki and mobile have a complicated relationship [19:30:18] mobile cache is a whole other beast, but I don't recall exactly cache problems w/ it before cf [19:30:39] It’s like the step sibling or parents in law you have to deal with but can only barely tolerate [19:30:54] lol! [19:31:17] [1/2] cloudflare migration started april right [19:31:17] [2/2] i remember some pages being 2 or 3 days outdated in early march [19:31:18] This happens a lot with mediawiki [19:31:18] Hey [19:31:22] It’s not CentralAuth! [19:32:36] the solution is not use mobile! 😌 [19:32:48]