[01:29:00] nvm figured it out [01:29:44] however is there a way to put up a little warning on one domain but not the other without SMW [02:05:02] any way to add more buttons here? i kind of want a shortcut to automatically add `/math` [02:05:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278173480818442303/image.png?ex=66cfd751&is=66ce85d1&hm=54617a30700ab90a6aed3d607df50ed149eaadc4078b5ef062dcb34032eaa45d& [02:15:44] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278176160215470132/image.png?ex=66cfd9cf&is=66ce884f&hm=c5ae799a7fce3b19f259325a1127fbc5e29564da49a1a048902bda3d4f7b763c& [02:15:49] fuck this plugin šŸ˜­ [02:28:06] Regarding Common.css and background images; do i rly need to use a URL like "`https://static.miraheze.org/yourwikihere/H/EX/File_Name.png`" or can i just do "`File_Name.png`" instead? [02:29:47] url [02:30:47] šŸ˜­ [02:48:53] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278184501830357054/image.png?ex=66cfe194&is=66ce9014&hm=62717324e1a6e9024a456e28dcb244a806b975b99433a5da91dfa091c92d3d69& [02:49:00] fuck this plugin brah [02:49:25] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278184639051333642/image.png?ex=66cfe1b5&is=66ce9035&hm=a7b3111c7bf156e94cee7970de9ca5d3b2a43e18ee19d671fea4f85f043b8c60& [02:49:38] fuck this plugin brah [02:50:04] all progress GONE [02:52:53] drat, that sucks [02:53:16] if you're gonna be working on long edits, if I may, I might recommend trying out the new edit recovery feature [02:53:21] it may be of some help [02:53:28] you can enable it in preferences [03:04:46] ive enabled it [03:05:08] but goddamn, mathml is so annoying [03:24:59] The unfortunate reality is that the Math extension has had problems for several MW versions. [03:33:05] cant this day get any worse [03:34:10] dont jinx it [03:38:26] ^ [03:47:14] You will slip on a lemon. [03:47:41] It may be tonight. It may be tomorrow. It may be next year. It may be the reason you die. But you will slip on a lemon. [04:09:38] That would be such a shit way to die [04:09:43] I would be embarrased [04:10:03] Could always be worse! [05:03:36] boo combustible lemons are better [05:09:30] is it a bad idea to just make a massive infobox instead of making multiple smaller infoboxes? [05:10:06] how massive are we talking here? [05:10:14] šŸ˜… [05:10:17] uh [05:10:44] it'd be probably close to like 4 infoboxes combined [05:26:39] depends šŸ¤” [05:34:39] okay but [05:34:41] downsides [05:35:18] [1/2] overwhelming, roo much shit at once [05:35:18] [2/2] also imagine how long it's gonna be on mobile [05:35:29] parserfunctions [05:35:37] also yeah lol [05:35:45] I just assume portable by default [05:38:25] [1/4] like, looking at my wiki tho [05:38:26] [2/4] there's like a live album, it exists as just audio, and as just video, and both like CD+DVD+BD [05:38:26] [3/4] and like, I wouldn't make a separate page for each case, right? they all have same names, but I have separate infoboxes for each type [05:38:26] [4/4] so I have this one page, it starts w/ general intro paragraph, and main part is audio ofc, and that's first infobox, then next big section is video - w/ video infobox [05:39:06] again, really depends on what you are working w/ and want to achieve [05:40:46] I just wonder moreso performance sided. [05:42:07] ah, that won't hinder performance [05:46:10] SICKKKK [05:47:09] when you edit a page there's like a message under editor area [05:47:19] which shows load stats? [05:47:22] sometimes it's collapsed, sometimes not [05:48:01] from my experience it might look alarming if there's too much templates or they're too heavy, or there are too mich files [05:48:09] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278229616670281738/image.png?ex=66d00b98&is=66ceba18&hm=159139882835af3527dbcccc8333442e66a0348f63eba5480296ee888a3308d2& [05:48:14] this seems tame [05:48:15] yeah that [06:09:02] [1/2] Long :p [06:09:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278234874461032481/Screenshot_20240828_070831_Chrome.png?ex=66d0107e&is=66cebefe&hm=1c1790660238fd69e2f944a32c46a9c5daf5fcc062b0ce4a9370ec5cdf5008a0& [06:19:20] Do I need to import a template to edit the heading level limit? [06:19:59] heading level limit? [06:22:12] thats a setting but im pretty sure by default theres no limit? [06:27:43] Yea [06:27:55] I just want to do it for specific pages [06:28:03] Not for all of them [06:33:23] Oh you can't [06:33:26] I don't think [06:34:33] templatestyles hide toclevel-4 or something [06:42:39] ...okay how do i do math [06:47:35] woooo parser functions [08:06:24] 502 bad gateway [08:07:00] also asked this in the MediaWiki irc but [08:07:20] is it possible to get some sort of generic MediaWiki app and customize it for a specific wiki [08:07:40] wdym by a mediawiki app? [08:07:48] as in a native client? [08:08:14] like a native client for mobile devices that you can just fork and customize to fit your wiki [08:08:25] i mean... if you have the source code, sure? [08:09:01] and if you don't have the source code, you could still technically do it if you're masochistic enough to deal with minified binary blobs, but that's a bit of a tangent :p [08:09:08] the thing is I did a bit of digging and the wikipedia mobile app relies almost entirely on proprietary stuff [08:09:26] what in the hell why [08:09:38] itā€™s less a deal of what to do and more what to do it with [08:09:54] ā€œoptimizationā€ or some shit idk [08:10:07] proprietary software? weird [08:10:28] itā€™s open source but it relies on Wikipediaā€™s weird api that only they have [08:10:41] restbase or smth? [08:10:47] eeeeh [08:10:50] yeah restbase [08:11:04] restbase is open source, right? [08:11:26] yeah but how the fuck do I get it on a Miraheze wiki [08:11:35] solution: you can't [08:11:37] I guess, individual wikis are free to make some sort of apps for themselves, but I also feels like it would be android only endeavour? [08:11:53] and thereā€™s my hangup [08:12:08] restbase was once deployed on miraheze, but now not anymore because barely anyone was using it, and it was using server resources [08:12:10] > [28/08/2024 18:11] and thereā€™s my hangup [08:12:19] i thought you were asking a generic mediawiki question :p [08:12:45] idk man, make it like glorified web browser for single site lol [08:12:46] i suppose you gotta find an app that uses the mediawiki action api [08:12:57] and if one doesn't exist? uhh be the change you want to see? [08:13:01] or maybe do PWAs [08:13:12] both are cop-out answers, but i genuinely can't think of anything else here [08:13:19] nah I want a mobile app for a Miraheze wiki, the only reason I asked it in the MW discord as well is because I figured folks there would have less MH specific knowledge and maybe know something [08:13:42] but why? what are benefits? [08:14:08] [1/4] - native app [08:14:08] [2/4] - native app [08:14:08] [3/4] - native app [08:14:09] [4/4] - fast, probably [08:14:51] how you'd make it fast when servers aren't fast lol [08:15:34] computer sorcery (itā€™ll probably just be faster on the app and no one will be able to figure out why) [08:15:56] you know [08:16:04] me know? [08:16:08] that clause reminds me of when someone used ~four billion if statements to determine if an integer is odd or even [08:17:11] if connection or servers aren't fast app won't be fast, source - when Twitter was getting slowed down in Russia [08:17:31] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278267204630089751/IMG_4821.jpg?ex=66d02e9a&is=66cedd1a&hm=dc6cef849175a8ccda03284213e4a3f07bf08587a38f29e9e47e513724d2d68e& [08:17:52] this was the highest quality image I could find [08:18:13] https://andreasjhkarlsson.github.io/jekyll/update/2023/12/27/4-billion-if-statements.html [08:19:32] this is how you give a developer nightmares [08:19:38] it really is [08:24:48] hello [08:24:50] is this thing on [08:24:55] awesome [08:25:06] i can connect to here from irc now [08:25:14] hello discord me [08:25:19] hello irc me [08:25:28] all right that's enough of that [08:25:29] Please do not talk to yourself. Do that IRL instead. [08:25:35] anyways [08:25:46] ah yes [08:25:49] mobile apps [08:25:51] > [28/08/2024 18:25] Please do not talk to yourself. Do that IRL instead. [08:25:54] but it's funn :( [08:26:05] To answer your question [08:26:13] I accidently combined 7 [08:26:29] 45 lines [08:27:49] [1/2] meanwhile my godforsaken homepage code [08:27:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278269799796965396/image.png?ex=66d03105&is=66cedf85&hm=8b918f49abca42ae1bae0c00c0c03c6227100e6b8144c4fdc20e5c89aa888593& [08:28:14] this is the new one, you don't wanna see the old one [08:29:16] i wrote my own basic static site generator lol [08:30:07] hmmmmm, wikitext to html static site generator :3c [08:30:24] well thats not even cursed [08:30:28] maybe a lil goofy but [08:30:30] pandoc [08:30:47] try [08:31:01] 7 embedded #ifeq: statements to just do a fucking colour [08:31:02] [1/2] this is the old one [08:31:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278270608324431994/image.png?ex=66d031c6&is=66cee046&hm=59d2ee2f0018b929aea44c53f504bc040818eb8bc03f5d7b4edcb85aba5f5c73& [08:31:09] supports to and from mediawiki and html for both [08:31:11] it's very uh [08:31:13] cluttered [08:31:34] > [28/08/2024 18:31] 7 embedded #ifeq: statements to just do a fucking colour [08:31:38] baby's first switch statement [08:31:53] i quite literally [08:31:56] compressed this shit [08:31:59] thankfully both of these will soon be superseded (though they'll still be available for people that wanna use them) [08:31:59] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278270848452526093/image.png?ex=66d031ff&is=66cee07f&hm=dd271d417699062eb5bc1b762f94e6eb943f4835e8957b32ac189f1ebb94efb5& [08:32:06] since pandoc is a converter between several document formats, would a converter for only two formats be bidoc? [08:32:18] i need to compress more but [08:32:24] i cbb r [08:32:25] rn* [08:32:30] huh TIL [08:32:31] ah, classic infoboxes [08:32:50] im getting sent spicy stuff and need to try it [08:33:05] i would question why they're still in use but i also don't want to be burned at the stake [08:33:23] lua would be easier to maintain >_> [08:33:55] just write the infoboxes into the php and call them with magic words [08:34:09] i meannnn [08:34:14] allow the user to use arbitrary html tags [08:34:27] wait no [08:34:30] write it in javascript [08:34:39] /L [08:34:56] store the infobox in an sql database [08:35:17] js interfaces with the server on the database port and retrieves the code before inserting it into the page [08:36:05] are y'all trying to think of cursed things or.. o_o [08:36:19] Trying to think of ways to make my infobox more cursed [08:36:30] we're thinking of things less convoluted than not using portable infoboxes [08:36:57] Listen listen listennn [08:37:12] Why would I make something easy if it works :> [08:37:15] (4am brain) [08:38:57] the whole point of coding is to sit and stare at a screen for 20 hours and then realize in the shower that you used square brackets instead of parenthesis [08:39:15] and that is why it's not working [08:39:22] But it does work [08:39:30] somehow [08:39:44] honestly im really fucking impressed that THAT mess is functional [08:39:54] i need to test alot of cases ofc but goddamn [08:39:57] define "functional" [08:40:05] please i'm curious [08:40:09] Works as intented, but needs further testing [08:40:23] so "good enoughā„¢" [08:40:37] Oh no like it's actually surprisingly good. [08:40:42] ah [08:40:52] i could have done it better, of course, but i didnt [08:40:59] i refuse to learn lua. [08:41:10] plus, it could be much worse [08:41:51] points to the 300 different pages which need to be categoried into 10 sections to have different css applied to them [09:41:45] local cache ? [10:37:08] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278302341329588224/image.png?ex=66d04f53&is=66cefdd3&hm=d9da674739ebd1a69b26a7bad5e9bf42b50b399d112aae7f5e2a26e73d371241& [10:37:16] oh my GOD!!! [10:37:35] i hate mathml with a BURNING PASSION! [10:50:30] donā€™t use it then \:troll\: [10:50:42] true.... [10:51:01] my only way to circumvent this insufferable problem is just to convert the renders into an svg file instead [10:54:17] im being struck down by the miraheze server computators for rendering such ridiculous math equations [10:55:51] make a mathml renderer (?) entirely in lua so you could use it on the wiki /hj [11:00:39] Uhh, something happened to my Wiki [11:00:42] As in it's gone [11:00:49] velvetbyrne: weird O_o [11:00:53] link? [11:00:55] Or is it just under maintenance [11:01:11] https://jlit.miraheze.org/ [11:01:30] It just keeps returning 502s [11:01:53] oh i thought you meant it was deleted [11:02:00] looks like miraheze is kinda choking right now [11:02:09] Ah, no wonder, that explains [11:02:56] I'm afraid if my wiki is just entirely gone again šŸ˜­ [11:03:48] yeah, mh is definitely choking [11:03:58] even grafana (the statistics dashboard) is giving me 502s [11:04:23] Prom is fucked [11:05:01] the main page for the wiki does load for me... but it took 10 seconds [11:06:51] > [28/08/2024 21:02] I'm afraid if my wiki is just entirely gone again šŸ˜­ [11:06:54] hopefully it won't be [11:07:03] but the best way to ensure that it won't be is to make proactive backups [11:08:15] Just got a 502 Bad Gateway error. [11:08:35] loaded recent changes for my wiki but the css failed to load lol [11:08:42] Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp41.wikitide.net at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 11:08:27 GMT [11:09:20] And just refreshed once and the background went light theme, then refreshed again and turned dark but with this error message. [11:13:46] What happened to Miraheze? Is it under attack? [11:14:06] Went back to normal but produced error again just now. [11:14:18] things are a bit intermittent right now [11:14:22] dunno why though [11:15:29] we had 502/503 before big ddos attacks man [11:15:55] although ofc only tech folks can tell what's going on [11:16:26] in any way, there's not threat of data loss [11:18:09] unless if someone reboots the wrong server [11:19:21] well at least phorge works just fine [11:22:10] woooo [11:24:36] Yes it's still happening [11:25:23] Who has becoming obsessed of attacking this servicešŸ˜‚ He doesn't have good things to do? [11:25:58] i would like to quote this gem: [11:25:59] who is so deranged to DDOS a wiki farm, does Putin think you guys run Ukraine or something??? [11:26:46] I don't think if the platform has massively Ukrainian contents targeting him [11:27:14] that was a joke and/or hyperbole, but i still find it funny xD [11:27:29] But there is a dozen of wikis targeting the Chinese government, like the "anticommwiki"šŸ˜‚ [11:27:53] Yes it's somewhat funny [11:56:34] [1/3] This wiki is temporarily unavailable [11:56:34] [2/3] Please try again in a few minutes, these errors usually resolve by then. If you are receiving this error persistently, please check our Twitter xxx) for more information or inform us by joining #miraheze-tech-ops on irc.libera.chat or our Discord server xxx [11:56:35] [3/3] (Cannot access the database: Cannot access the database: Connection refused (db151)) [11:59:01] But guys one thing to mention, my next visa appointment is scheduled on 9/9, and during the time in Shanghai I won't be able to edit on my wiki. Please make sure the Dormancy Policy Exemption applies to it to prevent possible deletions. [11:59:03] Thanks! [12:00:09] li.ao: did you file a DPE? [12:01:26] Yes, already done in June. I just wanted to mention it to avoid potential issues. [12:01:47] huh... checking https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/core/jlitwiki, i don't see an exemption? [12:02:01] unless if it's a different wiki [12:02:40] No this is not mine, it's liaowiki which is already in exemption as checked [12:02:49] oh okay [12:02:52] But does it hold an expiration date? [12:03:05] Yes I don't know a bit about Japanese literature [12:03:05] yes, up until 2025-06-17 [12:03:09] I'm Chinese [12:03:16] you can see a list in https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Dormancy_Policy/Exemptions [12:03:18] Thanks [12:03:27] Thank you [12:03:34] you're welcome ^_^ [12:05:10] Nice [12:07:39] The Special:Import is bugged [12:08:03] The fucking page don't let me upload a template from Wikipedia [12:08:20] another bug reported [12:09:02] thelilacdragon.: if it takes too long to process then it will timeout [12:10:42] Special:Import works only w/ small files [12:11:59] The problem is that I try upload a file, then, the navigator appears charging the page and then says this [12:12:10] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278326257775280242/image.png?ex=66d0659a&is=66cf141a&hm=a053f2e3ad6c2e06e6291df3c35012e31759affd689a024fd3972ee89052e187& [12:12:43] protoccol error ? [12:12:44] what [12:12:46] "is inactive or definitely moved to other domain". [12:12:52] yup [12:13:04] well... that sure is something [12:13:47] A resume: The file don't let me upload, and the Special:Import is broken [12:16:30] [1/2] wow you are really using the full gauge [12:16:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278327346667061333/image.png?ex=66d0669d&is=66cf151d&hm=9a23a8ca9b540cb710d07e1fe88f163ffe4dfd3b21cedc2c0bc760d4dd5a2322& [12:17:04] a:skulls: [12:17:19] Well that's not good- [12:18:32] it's only like 4.3* the maximum that was supposed to be displayed, it's okay [12:18:50] "oh, that's normal" [12:22:25] nvm, seems it is fixed by the team [12:22:48] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278328934165123123/image.png?ex=66d06818&is=66cf1698&hm=0685e761b4a6b51d5265b9b2f236a3ed6f9e77517fec6abc677492b41caf6812& [12:24:24] Thank you! [12:25:52] [1/2] I prefer to say that it just worked by itself [12:25:52] [2/2] that happened to me onces whiles moving my wiki back to MH again... [12:26:41] but hey, sites should be faster by now [12:32:42] https://furrnations.miraheze.org/wiki/Fiercely_Dragons [12:33:05] I'm working this [12:33:27] [1/2] isn't that a lot 2'818'570 requests/s/process ? [12:33:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278331613977247775/image.png?ex=66d06a97&is=66cf1917&hm=be1f6ce72fdf342dbba845b3f00903e1f9ad361062fb71e7329f11e3e3065138& [12:50:04] [1/2] adding images to the table is possible? [12:50:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278335794104504372/image.png?ex=66d06e7b&is=66cf1cfb&hm=8866965f411e13a06325cb420403ca7e0562c6337748e4ca6e5354d945a95226& [12:53:09] Yes [12:54:54] Just add the image as usual; but if you wanted it to look like what you wanted then some additional styling might be required. [12:58:18] [1/2] thanks! [12:58:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278337869232078989/image.png?ex=66d0706a&is=66cf1eea&hm=55587055262c3af31488b6c3ba06c8363402c141abcad0fa89e53b3387036f4a& [12:58:24] now it works [13:56:20] Peoppe use the markup editor? Tmyk i suppose [13:57:04] šŸ˜° u dont? [13:57:30] people use visual editor ? [14:00:36] it's wiki text :squint: [14:23:59] šŸ†’ [16:41:56] visual editor is great these days, especially for tables [16:47:31] i dont do a lot of table so maybe [17:05:17] whole bunch of 502 from multiple person here [17:09:48] i'm not getting 502s but i'm getting abysmal loading times [17:10:09] spoke too soon [17:10:47] is there a reason @Wiki-Bot is completely broken for us ? [17:10:56] it was working fine this morning [17:10:58] I've got plenty. [17:11:06] but now it doesn't find any pages [17:11:35] Probably related to general service degradation at the moment. [18:27:03] how to change url name on Miraheze wiki? [18:27:48] Only stupid templates to check brace counters [18:28:07] if you meant the subdomain, make a [[Phorge]] task [18:28:07] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge [18:28:08] [19:10:07] how do I do that? [19:10:14] fellas, do you think that [[WikiTide Foundation/Merger FAQ]] needs an update w/ Agent not being here anymore? [19:10:14] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Merger_FAQ [19:15:03] The website is being awfully slow today with a lot of 502 [19:16:35] [1/2] help, I logined in to Phorge and it said this: .^ [19:16:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278433065617588365/error.png?ex=66d0c912&is=66cf7792&hm=be86e2450479c84a53fa222fe4c0de4f6146f515bfb99bcb623b6f99614a6648& [19:19:56] how you login? you need to click the mediwiki login button (it says mediawiki but in reality it's miraheze) [19:21:34] I did that. It's not working šŸ˜­ [19:44:56] Miraheze is being very slow for me [19:45:44] We aren't alone in this [19:46:00] gotta go sleep tho [19:50:15] yeah it seems unhappy today [20:00:57] fr [20:01:35] when isnt mira unhappy [20:01:41] she needs love [20:03:58] [1/2] everything is fine dw [20:03:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278444988698722349/image.png?ex=66d0d42d&is=66cf82ad&hm=1d4c25e6ed8386f18caade5a8caef9ad655f5bf31d8b75073c2faaa1805de3d0& [20:04:11] looks perfectly normal [20:16:54] @Infrastructure Specialists: can someone please merge https://github.com/miraheze/puppet/pull/3900 like yesterday? [21:54:38] [1/2] hi need help again how do you put an image in a table like this [21:54:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278472839602634812/image.png?ex=66d0ee1d&is=66cf9c9d&hm=cdadf793171f4fb2d1c67e6a281466bde75ee233fccab43491544569d2ed3e34& [21:55:36] [1/3] | [21:55:36] [2/3] [[File:|40px]] [21:55:36] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File: [21:55:37] [3/3] etc. [22:40:24] [1/2] You can make a cell on a table span multiple rows/columns with colspan and rowspan [22:40:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278484356385603624/image.png?ex=66d0f8d7&is=66cfa757&hm=9413a52705185e88c2b76418f55dfddfda93f373d5cce49255ad71569cf2933d& [22:40:28] from there just add the image to the cell as normal [23:29:49] load balancingā„¢ļø [23:30:14] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278496899652911126/IMG_4824.png?ex=66d10486&is=66cfb306&hm=58ad8f1ee3d92a842a76eaf42c4440bef176723d2f190541dd6793353fabfbad& [23:30:22] Iā€™m just gonna go right out and blame cloudflare [23:44:59] Hiya, what do you append to the url to preview a skin again? [23:47:19] ?useskin=[skinname] [23:48:29] thank!