[00:32:27] Question: is there a way to have hidden text and images on the wiki in a similar fashion to spoilers on Discord? [00:33:41] I believe there is [00:33:51] ah, how does it work? [00:33:57] though unless you just want it collapsible you’ll have to rely on a template [00:34:17] how would the collapsible version look? [00:34:27] like a drop down kinda [00:34:58] I sort of meant in code [00:54:04] [1/3] Like for example If I wanted to have a supplemental image on a page I type this. [00:54:04] [2/3] [[File:Image.png|thumb|Description.]] [00:54:04] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Image.png [00:54:05] [3/3] How would the collapsable text and image look? [01:02:50] Ah [01:02:58] I can't recall right now [01:03:05] I'd have to look [01:03:21] I know someone has made a blur css/js thing [01:04:10] Oh! That'd also be useful to know how that would look when adding to a page! [01:12:37] I think canada on the discord may have [01:13:25] i dont recall their username to ping [01:14:02] @canyada [01:14:18] obrigado ellie [02:33:14] how do i change the background for vector (currently) and how do i change the button top right? [03:14:54] Is it possible to make a specific pages editable for a role? [03:33:50] https://furrnations.miraheze.org/wiki/Furry_micronation [03:34:01] I wanna expand this article [03:56:47] If you expand it, it will no longer be a micronation. [04:00:01] ba dum hey [04:00:18] Tee hee [04:00:41] anyways is there anything preventing you from editing? [04:03:03] Ok, I came here for a question... [04:03:24] If common.css is for Desktop, what's the version for the mobile one? [04:17:04] [1/7] `@media screen and (min-width:720px) { [04:17:05] [2/7] / PC and tablet display / [04:17:05] [3/7] } [04:17:06] [4/7] @media screen and (max-width:720px) { [04:17:06] [5/7] / mobile display / [04:17:06] [6/7] }` [04:17:06] [7/7] I use 720px since it's what works for my mobile device. Add CSS inside like you normally would. [04:18:25] idk how to do the syntax highlighting thing here 🥺 [04:30:11] I think the mobile version had their own css link to change their appearance... [04:30:53] in the mobile version, the font is the default Arial, and all white, while the desktop is colorful and has it's own font. [04:39:41] can anyone tell me how [04:46:56] Ah yeah, depends on the skin you're working with, I'm using Cosmos with CosmosTweaks on so that's the CSS I use [04:48:59] which allows for use of the same fonts and colors on both desktop and mobile [05:44:16] [[dev:Template:Spoiler]] [05:44:16] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/dev:Template:Spoiler [05:44:17]

[05:45:46] Ah, thank you! [05:55:06] [confusedmf_c](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1119846554522624112.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=confusedmf_c) [06:07:14] [1/2] i want this to be default for all users [06:07:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278959196867526716/image.png?ex=66d2b312&is=66d16192&hm=f5c064292a2d1a4cc022936d4e8b51daf683fd0d305a5d58c0f300db8f65c216& [06:07:19] how do i do that [06:08:12] without them pressing the button [06:08:49] pressing what button? [06:12:37] It is main page so it is default? [06:13:29] the main page is white [06:14:06] Maybe some cache problem [06:14:20] for other users [06:14:20] Try purging the page as anon ? [06:16:05] On which devices? [06:16:34] the dark mode button [06:16:45] Ohhh [06:16:53] css? [06:18:14] Do you want it permanently black or allow people to toggle to white? [06:20:06] by default is dark mode but it can be white whenever the user likes to do it [06:23:22] [1/2] like this one [06:23:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278963256052154430/image.png?ex=66d2b6da&is=66d1655a&hm=6d6180fd0463b96c06544cef9fef3a1d20d3807560d2d7a429411f6931eff1ad& [06:23:39] dark mode by default? [06:23:45] is it possible? [06:29:00] maybe if we modify the extension? [06:30:29] [1/2] which one do i chang? [06:30:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1278965045455486976/image.png?ex=66d2b884&is=66d16704&hm=ac3fce03569d1b53985c392d041f3efdc335269a4a42c3889c18b32fbde654d3& [06:30:31] change* [06:30:50] Dark mode toggle link position ($wgDarkModeTogglePosition) [06:31:42] wait [06:33:49] Which skin are you using ? [06:33:50] That changes where the link is, not the actual dark mode itself [06:33:59] Yes [06:36:17] vector (current) [06:37:01] Mhh [06:37:44] I'm not sure it's possible de make it dark by default [06:39:03] vector old version? [06:43:06] Idk I don't use vector a lot [06:50:35] I don't think it's plausible in any, hence why Claire stated the extension may need to be modified [06:53:03] tbh I've grown a dislike for the darkmode extension [06:53:07] it's so jank [06:55:49] it doesn't preserve color, so i personally would advice against it [06:58:32] found it: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/extensions/DarkMode/+/refs/heads/master/includes/Hooks.php#163 [07:00:19] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Manual:$wgDefaultUserOptions; hmm, this might be doable on the wiki [07:02:07] blpixelbn: it's possible (without editing the source code), but you'll have to request on phorge [07:02:32] aight i'll request on phorge [07:12:38] Hey, bureaucrat of this wiki here [07:12:43] So crazy seeing this in the wild haha [07:12:57] What we did was we just made the light mode css use dark colours and vice versa [07:14:19] And then after that was implemented we switched the system message for the dark toggle from “dark mode” to “light mode” [07:15:14] Not a very technical fix but it works perfectly [07:17:28] Hope that helps [08:10:26] i mean that works @mooncloud [08:12:42] Is it possible to own a second wiki if it talks about a different series [08:31:04] Ye [08:31:09] I has 2 wikis [08:32:25] Albeit I wasn't the person who originally requested the Usagi Shima Wiki [08:33:52] Awesome, I'll keep that in mind [08:50:40] You can [08:52:03] [1/2] However, we always would like you to finish the first wiki first, before starting the next one. [08:52:03] [2/2] We often see that when a new wiki is started, the interest for the first wiki is lost and becomes dormant. [08:53:08] [1/2] more like, properly developed and maintained than finished, there's not a lot complete wikis [08:53:08] [2/2] wikis most of the time are ongoing projects [08:53:36] That is indeed what I meant. Thanks [09:43:16] Oh trust me I would never [09:43:30] I ain't gonna treat the wiki I have currently like shit [11:03:19] How could I make my wiki "Dark mode"? Like make the specific wiki have a black background and white text [11:09:24] [1/2] by default you mean? [11:09:24] [2/2] in most cases it's skin specific CSS modification, while Cosmos skin lets you to change colors in settings [11:12:22] I'm confused [11:18:26] https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/938066082441343037/956597578764537887/resize.gif [11:19:41] [1/4] CSS is a thing responsible for how web site look like, it's a bunch of special code pages/files. [11:19:41] [2/4] by default all wiki skins have their own CSS, usually all white and stuff. [11:19:41] [3/4] if you want to change colors of your wiki, you need to modify that skin CSS, example of my wiki w/ Timeless skin and the CSS code I've made to make it all dark and stuff: [11:19:42] [4/4] [11:20:27] depending on what skin your wiki is using, that code might be very different. [11:21:25] there's however one skin which lets you to change colors in normal admin settings, i.e. you won't have to poke around CSS, that skin is called Cosmos and it looks like old Wikia/Fandom layout [11:21:42] So true me too [11:23:55] [1/2] this what it looks like applied (for timeless skin) [11:23:56] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1279038885246140416/image.png?ex=66d2fd49&is=66d1abc9&hm=228c55264e5407a1f1d4bb0fa6868a90b317be45a7bf6a53f02a950d0da10b46& [11:23:56] [1/3] Seconding this [11:23:56] [2/3] I'm deep into a really obscure interest and I'm the only person ever working on its Fandom wiki but Fandom is ASS to use and write on so I'm planning to move to Miraheze [11:23:57] [3/3] People with obscure interests are Wikis' strongest soldiers imo [11:25:59] [1/3] on your wiki? [11:26:00] [2/3] that's what you get for copying everything, I strongly suggest to learn and understand how it works, otherwise you'll confuse yourself even more [11:26:00] [3/3] but folks are free to copy some code bits, preferably w/ credits [11:26:08] ik [11:26:24] i am going to do some editing on it [11:27:06] [1/2] I remember seeing discussion around these floating around a bit ago, is there a way to locally change them? [11:27:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1279039692540743750/IMG_9231.png?ex=66d2fe0a&is=66d1ac8a&hm=8be1e60e4f2da0c4656ba800455f46178347d2d30739457f3b641399f0206bcd& [11:27:31] I recall it involved a phorge task, not sure [11:27:59] [1/2] try w/ just CSS first? [11:28:00] [2/2] I know some wikis hide them entirely [12:43:23] [1/13] For the license logo: [12:43:24] [2/13] you can set the license in Special:ManageWiki/settings#mw-section-editing to: [12:43:24] [3/13] 📄 All Rights Reserved [12:43:24] [4/13] 📄 Creative Commons BY 4.0 [12:43:25] [5/13] 📄 Creative Commons BY-NC 4.0 [12:43:25] [6/13] 📄 Creative Commons BY-ND 4.0 [12:43:25] [7/13] 📄 Creative Commons BY-SA 4.0 [12:43:25] [8/13] 📄 Creative Commons BY-SA-NC 4.0 [12:43:26] [9/13] 📄 Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 4.0 [12:43:26] [10/13] 📄 Public Domain [12:43:26] [11/13] 📄 GNU General Public V3 [12:43:27] [12/13] 📄 GNU Free Document License 1.3 [12:43:27] [13/13] 📄 No license provided [12:43:46] After changing, that logo will change accordingly [12:54:37] there is at least one wiki I've seen changing powered and hosted logo to match aesthetics [13:04:02] yep [13:04:09] request on phorge [13:04:57] (that wiki was tno.wiki btw) [13:05:58] [1/2] pretty quick css [13:05:58] [2/2] visibility:hidden the , set the that the image is in to display:inline-block and set the background image [13:18:28] I heard news that by updating robots.txt instructions can expell Apple's AI from training data on the website. Can I request a change of robots.txt on my wiki? [13:19:14] I don’t think we can individually Change it per wiki but I think @rhinosf1 was considering killing it [13:19:35] Thanks to this F1 racer [13:20:41] li.ao: an undocumented feature is to edit mediawiki:robots.txt on your wiki, and it will be appended to /robots.txt on the domain [13:20:46] (subject to 12h max caching) [13:21:09] example: https://rainverse.wiki/wiki/MediaWiki:Robots.txt and https://rainverse.wiki/robots.txt [13:21:18] Holy shit I did not know that [13:21:29] literally had to read the source code, so i don't blame you [13:21:34] (it's mh specific) [13:22:08] In MirahezeMagic? [13:22:18] uhh lemme check [13:22:29] Thanks very much for the info, I'll add a deny list to reject Apple's AI on my wiki. [13:22:48] in puppet [13:22:57] How [13:23:03] I mean [13:23:13] It makes sense mediawiki can’t modify the root domain [13:23:19] But like how does it work [13:23:28] https://github.com/miraheze/puppet/blob/23f4f9a618bfabe62a89d8822babd7fc13b7fd29/modules/mediawiki/templates/mediawiki.conf.erb#L143-L145 [13:23:34] Also what in damnation made you look for it there [13:23:45] and here's robots.php: https://github.com/miraheze/puppet/blob/master/modules/mediawiki/files/robots.php [13:23:48] > [30/08/2024 23:23] Also what in damnation made you look for it there [13:23:55] we wanted to also block ai scrapers [13:24:11] (bad sentence phrasing but hopefully understandable) [13:24:13] In puppet? [13:24:20] i was trying my hardest [13:34:56] #minor-announcements - did you mean #tech ? [13:36:09] yes [13:39:03] How long does it take to take effect the changes [13:39:15] a few minutes once I press the button [13:39:26] I'm currently uploading wiki.m* [13:39:32] then all will move once complete [13:39:39] Are you going to update the global robots config? [13:39:46] No that’s automatic [13:39:47] You're really nice man [13:39:59] Completely different thing [13:40:27] So I just updated my site-specific robots.txt page how long does it take to take effect those changes [13:41:34] a while [13:41:38] it's heavily cached [13:41:46] is it a cloudflare or legacy domain [13:42:04] All will be one soon enough anyways does it matter [13:42:11] if it's mw-lb, it will update when it moves to cloudflare [13:42:42] wiki.t now [13:42:51] I'm using custom domain requested from RequestSSL [13:42:55] Only know that [13:42:59] Alphabetical? [13:43:05] yep [13:43:16] is it using mw-lb or our dns? [13:43:24] Hosted DNS [13:43:34] still varnish then [13:43:40] it will take a while to update [13:43:54] 🆗 [14:20:25] Changed another network which can see the updated robots.txt, but with the same network the old one can still be refreshed, even when disabling cache. [14:20:37] Looks like the service is caching resources heavily. [14:22:47] Yes [14:24:08] The design concept is good as it mitigates online attacks, and to preserve server resources, but sometimes important components can't be refreshed timely [14:43:16] [1/3] heyo [14:43:17]