[00:14:27] everything suddenly got very slow and i'm getting 502s [00:20:40] Dang [00:25:46] [1/2] fun [00:25:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1279235650041679883/k7Z0RUB.png?ex=66d3b48a&is=66d2630a&hm=8c8e88cd807f3915b24f4d1b9130bf76d2da6d518308b8c6feed54e139da0f56& [00:25:55] a:waaa: [00:26:15] what in tarnation [00:26:36] servers doing the equivalent of lifting weights [00:27:17] in that case miraheze servers could crush my skull with their bicepts [00:27:29] ah so it's not just me [00:27:30] dang [00:27:41] saving on metawiki was kinda slow for me [00:27:48] what in damnation is going on [00:28:02] amazon bot was blocked [00:28:27] i don't know but there was a reason for it [00:28:34] a good portion of custom domains are behind cloud [00:28:57] @rhinosf1 any clue? [00:28:59] didn't expect that many to be using ANAMEs [00:29:26] How many? [00:29:37] well you said "a good portion" [00:30:05] Well I’m not sure how many [00:30:08] oh [00:31:05] I am looking into this [00:31:35] ❤️ [00:32:23] Thanks CA [00:32:54] ty [00:33:05] 👍 [00:35:38] Are things working any better now? [00:35:50] yep, definitely [00:36:06] yeah it's loading a lot smoother now [00:36:31] Hopefully it lasts, I made some changes to PHP. Ping me if things get bad again. [00:39:38] Also my patch right now is supposed to be a temporary solution, I plan to look into changing some resources around and investigate some PHP logs for a more permanent fix (I hope) later on. [00:40:37] any idea what the root cause is [00:40:51] donald trump [00:42:24] checks out [00:43:08] To many php-fpm childern allocated for the number of cpu cores we have for the MediaWiki servers resulting in high cpu load when all the childern were running. Thats what I fixed. But I will look more in depth later. [00:43:51] Which means as cpu gets exhausted, the childern fail to run what they were doing, get stuck, and then nothing runs leading to fpm being exhasted as nothing is running timely also. [00:43:58] So it wasn’t external factors? [00:44:02] No [00:51:36] How do I link to a Category without making the page part of the Category [00:51:53] `[[:Category:name]]` [00:51:53] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/:Category:name [01:25:36] Is there a miraheze branding kit? [03:08:49] currently awaiting my wiki to be accepted. is it easy to import? currently have a mediawiki server running under my local network, have alot of pages. [03:09:22] destroya22: yeah, you'll need to provide an xml and/or image dump [03:09:35] for xml, you should be able to request on Special:RequestImport on meta.miraheze.org [03:09:46] alrighty, thank you IRC person [03:09:49] for images, need to request on phorge (see https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge) [03:09:53] you're welcome ^_^ [03:10:29] how long is it usually for a wiki to be accepted? i had one accepted but I believe it was lost due to inactivity, was when I had gotten a domain but i lost it nowe [03:10:56] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Waki285-Bot/RWQ_backlog [03:11:01] Do you wanna reopen a wiki? [03:11:05] very neat thing, unfortunately underutilized [03:11:41] yeah sort of Pix, i just applied for a new one under adifferetn name [03:12:20] the Original one was called cyphersupremacy [03:14:21] I got the goguma chat thing on android [03:14:37] If you want to re open a wiki [[SR/RW]] [03:14:37] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SR/RW [03:15:49] wrong chat, well, to #offtopic [03:15:58] rather, #miraheze-offtopic [03:15:59] [1/2] Where would I find the images for these badges? [03:16:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1279278488083238963/IMG_9231.png?ex=66d3dc6f&is=66d28aef&hm=b8649cbef70030b0b6ef01ed1905690e458f60b36623258d2c916368feb1d9f6& [03:16:26] mooncloud: $wgFooterIcons in LocalSettings.php [03:16:29] MirahezeRelay: Use inspect element [03:16:32] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1279278626591997962/OIP.png?ex=66d3dc90&is=66d28b10&hm=392e0501b1e179e6bfc66da997c2a447f843dc41732f7df6438794c4654d192b& [03:17:30] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1279278866594267156/onLnVNG.png?ex=66d3dcc9&is=66d28b49&hm=e54224319f6692c6ac78f5eed2b4ce1d4f9929b14ffbbf889a413db5376333f3& [03:17:32] 🫦 [03:17:48] please don't tell me you're serious [03:18:01] nah jk [03:18:14] lol [03:18:32] lol situation [03:19:23] How would I get to this? [03:19:41] mooncloud: if you want to make changes, then you'll have to open a pull request and/or request on phorge [03:19:55] if you just wanna look at it, search in https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/blob/master/LocalSettings.php [03:20:05] Thank you! [03:20:09] you're welcome ^_^ [03:20:14] the license it seperate [03:20:17] 06in manage wiki06 [03:20:24] 06the license06 [03:21:34] tbh why miraheze put that license footer icon if people are going to just display: none; it? [03:22:13] 06legal reasons06 [03:25:26] [1/2] This works [03:25:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1279280863384703027/Screenshot_20240830_212302_Firefox.jpg?ex=66d3dea5&is=66d28d25&hm=3ed7b029d89ff43a2c0095b4bb0fc22d4d06df47dde5b864c89e0a9de3be9723& [03:25:43] [1/2] This works [03:25:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1279280937254912081/Screenshot_20240830_212302_Firefox.jpg?ex=66d3deb7&is=66d28d37&hm=d68f127aeff7a0bfbf554a9e81218bbeac572a84e017076331133a59ba861a38& [05:31:50] Are ManageWiki questions asked here? [05:32:01] steve0greatness: that works i suppose [05:32:12] i'm pretty sure they are yeah [05:33:12] @steve0greatness about third party instances? [05:33:25] Nope, on Miraheze. [05:33:39] oh [05:33:50] How do you set $wgMetaNamespace using ManageWiki? [05:33:53] then hell yes definitely ask away friend [05:34:08] uh try searching in /settings [05:34:21] it may also be in /namespaces? [05:34:31] wait what does the setting do [05:34:53] It sets the meta namespace, like Wikipedia: on Wikipedia [05:34:54] set the name of the project space iirc? [05:35:10] I don't think it's in ManageWiki [05:35:12] it is [05:35:20] steve0greatness: Special:ManageWiki/namespaces -> something about selecting existing namespaces -> Project [05:35:33] Thanks! [05:35:57] it might be called the actual name of the projectspace too, i'll have to check to be sure [08:54:41] commons.miraheze.org hosts these images [08:55:14] Thank you! [09:21:35] My wiki request is taking quite a while, how long do these usually take? [09:21:47] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Waki285-Bot/RWQ_backlog [09:24:40] I am not smart enou [09:24:53] Internet error [09:31:19] [1/3] everyone at Miraheze are volunteers, including those who review wiki requests [09:31:19] [2/3] it largely depends on how many reviewers are available, in both time zone sense and how much their occupied irl [09:31:19] [3/3] the page Eclair linked says there's ~3 days backlog in requests right now [09:31:40] Oh [09:31:47] This will take a while then I'd assume [09:32:03] Joins Miraheze to review requests to speed it up/j [09:32:43] there were times it would take several hours, and then up to 2 days, really varied [09:32:53] Alright then [09:33:07] however, I shall note nowadays we get significantly more requests [09:33:19] there's clear influx [09:37:55] I remember when it was minutes lol [09:38:43] > [31/08/2024 19:32] Joins Miraheze to review requests to speed it up/j [09:38:48] literally me joining the techteam [09:40:20] [1/2] lmao yeah [09:40:20] [2/2] but jokes aside, everyone are welcome to help, you just need to familiarise yourself w/ how things work on Miraheze as a whole and get some community trust before applying to specific volunteer roles [09:41:49] wiki creator is quite big role tbh [09:41:59] a lot stuff to consider [09:42:45] I won't lift it lol [09:48:10] a top wiki creator recently resigned, leaving it to a small handful of regulars to deal with record requests [09:48:33] the process is a bit tapped out I'm afraid and estimates should lean in the multi day territory as a rule at this time [09:52:04] [1/2] Basically, there are 2 WC's that daily review requests. Others are irregularly helping out. [09:52:05] [2/2] Indeed I resigned as WC as one of the regulars. [09:53:05] So it would be nice if others would think about joining the reviewer group. [09:53:40] You can look at #volunteering for more info and ask questions there as well [10:06:16] BlankEclair: you'll do a great job in tech tbh [10:06:26] ehe, thank you [12:21:39] true, I try to process a day's worth of requests each day, but to process more than that I just don't have the time [13:56:11] [1/3] I'm trying to use something from another css but it seems the "!important" thing is causing issues [13:56:12] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1279439599546007632/Screenshot_20240831_205514_Chrome.jpg?ex=66d4727b&is=66d320fb&hm=503ba44944e56fb9f1d24860e1762e8d06e2142a68f93d08e32770664951b75c& [13:56:12] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1279439599805923328/Screenshot_20240831_205528_Chrome.jpg?ex=66d4727b&is=66d320fb&hm=4e59ccefb920f158fbaed1e455fdcc5fa52d85b72e9ca202b4531a02b89142f6& [13:56:38] [1/2] https://softcell.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Timeless.css [13:56:38] [2/2] Trying to copy from here btw [14:01:45] what's the problem? they're only warnings and not errors [14:05:37] [1/2] > BlankEclair: you'll do a great job in tech tbh [14:05:37] [2/2] Here here, cheers to that:) [14:05:59] Also I’ve awoken from my thousand year slumber [14:06:18] Hey @pixldev [14:06:29] oh ello [14:06:39] funny, i'm slowly feeling the eepy right now [14:07:03] Is that not gonna affect it? [14:07:10] I wanna make sure before I press the save button [14:07:15] Nope [14:07:19] it's not an error, right? [14:07:23] Well let's see what happens [14:07:40] Is an error the "X" thing? [14:08:02] If so no, no errors, just the yellow warning signs [14:11:54] Yup [14:17:18] [1/2] for background image you need to use raw file link, not wiki link [14:17:18] [2/2] i.e. go to image page and click on a link saying something open in original size, it will be a new tab w/ URL starting w/ static.miraheze.org [14:17:56] theoneandonlylegroom: it's an /w/img_auth.php, which should work [14:18:09] (basically a proxy for static.miraheze.org, typically only used for private wikis so that files stay private) [14:18:20] ah, I forgor [14:18:22] apologies [14:21:15] [1/2] Still didn't work [14:21:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1279445903408894014/Screenshot_20240831_212051_Chrome.jpg?ex=66d4785a&is=66d326da&hm=0c9aa3f85fb5ded14de5b6f4820df4aac7529eb1a10b150e42ec21cddef0aec6& [14:23:28] [1/2] your skin is vector 2022? [14:23:28] [2/2] also try to Purge cache or wait 3-5 min, CSS takes some time or kicks to start working [14:23:46] Alright awesome, one issue [14:23:52] How do I purge cache [14:24:12] on the right, in Actions part, there's Purge [14:24:36] Huh weird, nothing happened [14:27:06] [1/3] I suggest to wait [14:27:06] [2/3] if it still won't work then maybe it's wrong element [14:27:06] [3/3] also, I just noticed you have `body` parts twice, background-image could be added right after font-family within one rule [14:27:23] Oh [14:27:30] Lemme do that then [14:28:56] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1279447840514379837/Screenshot_20240831_212845_Chrome.jpg?ex=66d47a28&is=66d328a8&hm=c2e5c3d8f494e43ec7853fc5b3393992ca68435f4fa0b075a5d6e0c30df237b7& [14:48:47] [1/2] How do I keep this revision? [14:48:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1279452834168836216/Screenshot_20240831_214825_Chrome.jpg?ex=66d47ece&is=66d32d4e&hm=eec2092d21dab3a5c27eced651b588b75c2d0269663e049498d9d591d94d5b11& [14:48:48] Or whatever you call it [14:50:10] you want to make it current again? [14:50:23] the previous? [14:59:55] No no keep the one that is shown below [15:01:13] [1/2] what's bellow shows the result of change, on the right side [15:01:14] [2/2] does the page itself looks different right now? [15:02:21] also I got confused at first, I'm way too used to two sides comparison (it's because of Inline switch above) [15:03:27] Oh [15:04:49] Nevermind I fixed it [15:30:12] Should $wgGoogleSiteVerificationKey include the `google-site-verification=`? [15:30:41] don't believe so [15:33:10] just the content inside it [15:33:20] No [16:57:05] anyone else getting some 502s? [16:58:04] yes [19:00:29] me [19:00:38] well not that [19:00:48] but Bad Gateway error [19:00:57] (sometimes) [19:03:34] [1/2] Damn, not again with the error... [19:03:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1279516949059211315/image.png?ex=66d4ba84&is=66d36904&hm=c5d4cd586e9d8320670e321f85f59c22e939b864bc8e01f8df328131fc2e4bd5& [19:03:47] Always at this time >_< [19:12:30] ah yes the 502 [19:16:26] what does it stand for? [19:19:10] Bad gateway error [19:19:18] Any 5XX error is a server side issue [19:19:25] Like how 4XX are client issues [19:32:17] At what time the server is under maintenance? [19:58:27] There is no scheduled downtime at the moment [20:17:38] ok, but soon or later will eventually MH will need maintenance... [20:19:30] btw... what happened with the poll taken months ago? [20:23:43] Results are public [20:23:52] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze-9-year [20:25:20] no maintenance periods have been scheduled [20:26:24] [1/2] >9 years [20:26:24] [2/2] didn't know that MH was that old. [20:30:07] Also, in the poll they were asking about functions and ideas to improve MH's website. [20:37:47] done as needed, tech can't really give an estimate on this subject [20:38:11] usually done if something is changing or going bust entailing a period of downtime, otherwise the idea (for any site really) is to be up as much as possible [20:38:35] and routine maintenance with downtime short of a massive change does not have to be a regular thing if the right stuff is in place [20:49:11] [1/8] RcGcDw stopped working for my wiki, what should I do? It sends such logs: [20:49:12] [2/8] ``` [20:49:12] [3/8] авг 31 23:46:36 srv04 systemd[1]: Started RcGcDw for mtrwiki. [20:49:12] [4/8] авг 31 23:46:37 srv04 python3[1186650]: Could not verify wikis paths. Please make sure you have given the proper wiki URLs in settings.json (https://rumtr.miraheze.org/w/ should be script path to your wiki) and your Internet connection is working. [20:49:12] [5/8] авг 31 23:46:37 srv04 systemd[1]: rcgcdw@mtrwiki.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE [20:49:13] [6/8] авг 31 23:46:37 srv04 systemd[1]: rcgcdw@mtrwiki.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. [20:49:13] [7/8] авг 31 23:46:37 srv04 systemd[1]: rcgcdw@mtrwiki.service: Consumed 153ms CPU time, 22.2M memory peak, 20.3K incoming IP traffic, 4.2K outgoing IP traffic. [20:49:13] [8/8] ``` [20:52:13] don't worry, so did I [20:53:01] there was that recent issue, and I just got a load of those un-logged changes [20:55:34] What's your wiki [20:55:42]