[00:18:55] [1/2] was thinking of making 2 wikis of different niches, and considering I already have 2 wikis, that means I will have 4 if I make the other 2 [00:18:56] [2/2] is that to overkill? [00:20:50] You can manage 4 wikis if you truly believe you can handle the workload; I myself have 7 wikis that are part of the Netpedia network + various other wikis I have created/manage [00:21:17] Hey guys [00:21:20] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1279596921777819648/image.png?ex=66d504ff&is=66d3b37f&hm=39c56282a0a9d817a6c9c7f5d0ab3eafebda2779f9905afb26c7c2c57eb9fc16& [00:21:27] How do I make the editing space darkmode [00:21:38] yea I think I can handle 4 wikis, after all, the 2 wikis I already made aren't that active anymore, only a few edits and thats all [00:21:41] css [00:21:42] without instantly annihilating my will to live at a CSS error [00:21:45] OH COME ON [00:21:48] inspect element [00:21:48] AGAIN.. [00:21:52] yeah [00:21:53] got that [00:22:06] when in doubt css it out [00:22:17] yea, unless if you want to install the shitty dark mode extension for your wiki [00:23:05] Apply the `filter: invert(1);` property to `.wikiEditor-ui` for a quick and easy fix; more convoluted solutions will require more CSS rules [00:23:06] When in doubt...call saul.. [00:23:13] Thanks Tali [00:23:14] meh, waiting for the themetoggle extension [00:23:20] When in doubt call Tali [01:13:39] hella-o' boys [02:01:53] Hey is it possible to add small text? [02:02:03] tempette: [02:02:13] How do I use it [02:02:16] , or [02:02:18] they're html tags [02:02:19] I tried to and it didn't go well [02:02:23] so like egg [02:02:47] Hmmmm [02:03:54] [1/2] What if there's no space like [02:03:54] [2/2] Testit/small [02:04:06] Would it still work [02:04:07] tempette: should work? [03:12:24] TIL AC users on loginwiki have the patrol right [03:13:41] yeah I've noticed that for a while [03:16:24] im personally offended because global admin is cursed with seeing patrol marks but not being able to patrol [03:16:25] so [03:16:30] i just die inside /j [03:21:32] i changed my wiki theme and then did a ton of css stuff, and in anonymous browsing it has the css but the theme has not changed, does the theme just take longer to update or did i dot smth wrong here? [03:23:54] the changes tend to take a while to kick in with anon viewing [03:24:30] alright thank you! just wanted to confirm that itd change itself eventually [03:33:22] i hate cache [03:33:43] same [04:29:45] [1/2] cookin some chicken [04:29:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1279659437098795049/image.png?ex=66d53f38&is=66d3edb8&hm=f7bfe9a36a559b59c753ae4494dec295a9c33e9a2221092bdd09e696d464a178& [04:43:11] [1/2] Miraheze hurting rn? Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp41.wikitide.net at Sun, 01 Sep 2024 04:42:02 GMT [04:43:11] [2/2] Varnish XID 874545173 [04:44:01] working for me [04:44:28] yep now working, maybe was client side [04:44:54] @cloakedclover a 5XX error means it was an error on the server side [04:44:59] yeah [04:45:33] is there a better way of calling `https://static.miraheze.org/wikiname` in common.css? [04:45:40] grafana doesn't show anything to be blowing up so it probably fixed itself [05:42:00] Guessing the talking app here is a hivemind of all miraheze staff members [05:44:40] This server is for the Miraheze community in general to discuss Miraheze-related matters; our high-ranking volunteers being here, although quite convenient, is not a requirement [06:11:46] telegram [06:18:04] part of the hivemind is over on irc too [06:33:35] it speaks [07:09:10] How do I spoiler an image that doesn't use thumb or frame? [07:29:50] what is spoilering an image? [07:30:15] making it hidden until clicked/hovered over [07:30:32] there's no functionality in core mediawiki to do that [07:30:44] actually, i guess you could use collapsible tables [07:30:53] the two main solutions i can think of are css and extensions [07:31:12] if you go the css route, i don't see why it wouldn't affect bare images [08:01:11] Devwiki is amazing [09:30:58] Error 504 Gateway Timeout [09:31:29] miraheze šŸ‘ [09:37:14] And we're back [10:27:58] How can I cancel a wiki request? [10:28:04] I lost track of where my request is [10:28:11] I don't want it anymore [10:28:58] tempette: go to Special:RequestWikiQueue [10:30:34] How do I cancel it? [10:31:06] I've gotta shut it down before it gets accepted [10:31:11] tempette: add a comment asking to decline [10:31:31] i don't think there's a way for the requester to self-decline their requests? [10:46:22] Is hosted DNS currently having issues? [10:46:40] Just tried visiting my domain, but returned no results. [10:48:42] @li.ao which domain? [10:56:57] wkmr.liao.media [10:57:12] [1/2] This site canā€™t be reachedCheck if there is a typo in wkmr.liao.media. [10:57:12] [2/2] DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN [10:58:02] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/rDNS324db740c501d60511b2b73bebcaaf0e11d4c742; well [10:58:19] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12528 [10:59:41] Why deleting the zone? [11:00:18] I've been using it until deletion [11:01:20] it didn't seem to be pointing at us [11:01:33] it was in batch 2 [11:01:41] so that meant it never took to cloudflare [11:01:58] It was working well. May I know which mechanism you use to check this? [11:03:10] [1/4] I get back nameservers of Name Server: ns1-32.azure-dns.com [11:03:11] [2/4] Name Server: ns2-32.azure-dns.net [11:03:11] [3/4] Name Server: ns3-32.azure-dns.org [11:03:11] [4/4] Name Server: ns4-32.azure-dns.info [11:03:13] not ours [11:03:24] This is the TLD [11:03:26] oh, I remember that domain [11:03:42] Please query on wkmr.liao.media for NS [11:03:48] liao.media is not a TLD [11:04:04] i suppose it's like eu.org (iirc) or obl.ong? [11:04:25] I mean the second level which is managed by the Registrar [11:04:56] no you own liao.media [11:05:10] I suggest just setting a CNAME on wkmr to cf-lb.miraheze.org [11:05:17] Yes and the wiki domain has separate DNS [11:05:17] rather than delegating the bit to us [11:05:26] ye I suggest not doing that [11:05:30] (nvm, scratch my previous message) [11:05:33] Is this unsupported now? [11:05:58] if I've removed it then that indicates it wasn't updating correctly [11:07:26] The reason for not using CNAME is because of some billing concerns. So if DNS is still needed, can you reinstate it for me? [11:07:46] huh... interesting: https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/P512 [11:08:23] There shouldn't be billing concerns [11:08:46] If it was removed, it's because it refused to add to cloudflare [11:10:07] Azure DNS won't charge you extra for a CNAME [11:10:27] wdym refused to add to cloudflare [11:10:51] Azure DNS bills customers as per zone per records, and also making greater TTL values ensures caching on resolvers. [11:11:08] it's still 1 record though [11:11:11] What has refused to do so [11:11:18] and you can set the TTL as high as you like [11:11:35] also, was there no advance warning to liao? [11:12:26] The last time I tried to manage records on Azure Portal I remember it counts separate DNS records as separate which will bill twice [11:12:39] > [01/09/2024 21:12] BlankEclair: no because all of them in my tests were broken [11:12:43] BlankEclair: because it was already broken [11:12:45] (RhinosF1 accidentally sent to the wrong channel) [11:13:04] I don't believe it will charge twice [11:13:24] you have less records if you're changing 2 NS records to 1 CNAME [11:14:02] So far as I know, I've never used this domain on Cloudflare. But Cloudflare may attempt to manage the root level of domain which has caused the issue [11:14:49] 2 NS records can be added once as it allows adding multiple values on one edit [11:15:02] no it won't [11:15:07] But I may be wrong because Azure's pricing model remains sophisticated to me [11:15:14] you are moving to our cloudflare caching infra [11:15:46] But how come to any refusals [11:15:51] please set a CNAME to cf-lb.miraheze.org for wkmr [11:16:00] There isn't a second option [11:16:20] Okay thanks for letting me know. [11:17:08] I very much doubt you'll get charged any extra [11:17:40] if you do the CNAME now, I will go and add you into cloudflare immediately which should bring you back @li.ao [11:18:03] I'm not able to manage anything while being outside [11:18:05] how do i look at logs? [11:18:18] which logs [11:18:22] wiki logs [11:18:28] *my wiki [11:18:30] And also I need to raise a ticket to Azure for billing questions [11:18:38] Special:Log [11:18:53] Can you tell me more? How come to a domain refusing to be added on Cloudflare? [11:19:11] if it failed to add, it wasn't pointing at us and must have been down [11:19:37] I'm pretty sure everything we removed was already down [11:19:53] cause I generated the list after checking what they were all showing [11:20:13] Mine was working fine, as yesterday I just tried modifying robots.txt which was checked on that domain [11:20:52] thanks [11:21:13] We moved a lot of stuff over the course of the day [11:21:50] What I can see is the credit card had a charge for the previous billing period, and it must be working normally as they won't terminate the service up until end of the current billing period, when I have less funds [11:21:57] Ohh [11:22:26] I suspect that you have some sorts of internal tools for checking domains [11:22:58] If so, that must be having logical errors, as treating second-level domains as ordinary ones [11:23:18] I setup probably about 450 custom hostnames over the course of about 36 hours [11:23:35] I did all the checks myself manually [11:23:36] You need to do this one by one? [11:23:50] no, the upload to cloudflare was scripted [11:24:08] Okay I don't know what does Cloudflare do [11:24:10] but I did manual checks on all domains we removed and they were inaccessible at the point we removed them [11:24:20] It is providing caching and security features [11:24:32] So just wanted to say that my domain works well. I did actively checking how it goes even if I'm travelling [11:25:01] I suspect the best way to fix it is to just use a CNAME [11:25:21] you don't need to delegate dns for a single subdomain to us [11:25:51] This would be the course of in the future as I'm travelling in Shanghai for my visa appointment and for other matters [11:26:43] My understanding is, any domains can be hosted as Miraheze provides that service. Is that causing issues in practice? [11:27:29] I have checked my terminal history and I can 100% see my check of your domain [11:27:46] and I wouldn't have removed it if it returned our nameservers [11:27:47] I just feel curious can you show me the logs? [11:27:55] dig wkmr.liao.media NS [11:28:02] it doesn't show output [11:28:07] just all the commands I've ran [11:29:34] I believe even with no results regular commands would return something. Is this on Linux? [11:29:55] MacOS [11:30:05] Oh okay I'm not familar with it. [11:30:46] terminals typically only keep a log of the commands entered [11:31:00] So to be able to manage DNS I need to first return as I'm travelling now [11:31:45] If you run this command now, this shoudn't be returning anything as the record has deleted. [11:32:20] As per DNS technical references, untill it reaches the final zone which provides a result, an error should return. [11:32:38] [1/5] ; <<>> DiG 9.10.6 <<>> wkmr.liao.media NS [11:32:38] [2/5] ;; global options: +cmd [11:32:38] [3/5] ;; Got answer: [11:32:39] [4/5] ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 44013 [11:32:39] [5/5] ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 [11:32:52] I get a SERVFAIL at the moment [11:32:56] Yes server fail is the expected result. [11:33:23] Because you're running the command NOW, as I said. The record has been deleted, which led the resolver unable to reach the final hop. [11:33:56] A final hop should be having NS records pointing to the nameservers themselves. [11:34:38] Let me know when it's pointing back at us and I'll add it to cloudflare [11:34:55] I'm ending the discussion about whether it did or didn't work here [11:35:07] I believe it has never ran abnormally, just wanted to say [11:35:26] I am ending that discussion [11:35:32] Okay [12:06:04] https://files.catbox.moe/duiefo.png; truly the most insightful of errors [12:06:45] purge fixed it ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ [12:13:57] It's a timeout [12:42:12] I got a 524 error :p [12:48:18] woah, unique [12:48:57] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_HTTP_status_codes#524 [12:56:45] Oh rare type [12:57:05] We need to start a collection of 5xx error [13:01:09] What is a 524? [13:01:21] Custom CF error [13:01:25] Oh [13:01:27] the equivalent to a 503 I'd say [13:01:43] Yup [13:02:50] i sent a link :/ [13:03:25] Ye I should read [13:04:24] okay but when are we implementing error 418 [13:04:54] Agent: I mean we easily could [13:05:03] We should serve OpenAI a 418 or something [13:05:38] lol that'd be funny [13:05:39] 420 [13:06:01] Interestingly, error code 420 is skipped [13:06:08] eh? [13:06:14] as well as 419 [13:06:20] BlankEclair: there's an actual RfC from fools for 418 [13:06:27] I'm a teapot! [13:06:34] hmm yeah [13:06:44] 420 is also slow down, but weed and twitter [13:06:47] https://http.cat/420 [13:07:02] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2324 [13:07:13] oh interesting, some pieces of software use error 420 for method failure [13:07:40] huh [13:09:11] BlankEclair: Any attempt to brew coffee with a teapot should result in the error [13:09:11] code "418 I'm a teapot". The resulting entity body MAY be short and [13:09:11] stout. [13:10:19] https://github.com/NARKOZ/hacker-scripts [13:12:44] BlankEclair: thats fun [13:16:06] lol [13:20:58] I donā€™t think we run on teapots [13:24:07] brb running mediawiki on a teapot [13:24:33] mh really really slow here [13:24:33] lmao [13:24:33] This is beautiful [13:24:59] relay be having fun [13:25:08] why I'm not surprised it's from bash.im [13:26:20] some phrases from original aren't in guthub lol [13:47:03] [1/12] So in my wiki i have these type of header however the problem is they collide with infoboxes, is there any way to fix it with css ? [13:47:03] [2/12] (template)[https://discordalterhis.miraheze.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Bandeau] [13:47:04] [3/12] ```html [13:47:04] [4/12] [13:47:04] [5/12]
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