[00:00:08] imagine sudo pacman -S fact lol [00:01:24] Lmao [00:01:27] Although [00:01:42] A wiki package/template group manager would be interesting 🧐 [00:02:00] huh [00:02:32] Although that’s kinda what loadout is gonna be [00:02:35] its so warm in england what is going on [00:02:45] Is it raining [00:02:52] not right now! [00:03:14] pacman fork that writes files out to mediawiki instead of the filesystem :3 [00:03:21] oh wait... fuse filesystem!! [00:03:37] speaking of filesystems [00:04:05] i spoke to the lead dev from Gamepedia a while ago and they said that the way they used to run their MediaWiki install was a shared file repository [00:04:09] how rogue is that [00:17:44] anyone wanna run a virtual machine whose hard drive is backed by google drive? [00:17:48] not backed up, backed [00:27:21] Good evening 🙂 [00:32:55] How long does it take to boot up, 10 hours? [00:33:25] i tried to build it, but had some issues with offsets or w/e and gave up [00:35:35] what css? [00:40:26] https://furrnations.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Piechart [00:40:29] Another one [00:40:31] failed [00:49:40] What’s up guys [01:12:31] the pie charts should to be in the left [01:12:45] and inside of a rectangle [01:17:56] help me [01:19:41] What a mess [01:23:15] fixed [01:23:34] I need fix this one [01:26:39] this is why you don't import wikipedia templates if you don't know what you're doing [01:27:56] I only wanted the Pie chart template equally [02:11:52] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1281799066703106141/image.png?ex=66dd07e8&is=66dbb668&hm=b1738ce92293761e32f281c9e5cca77802a10c8b0e9a620351f7e9b5bb60cbfa& [02:11:55] Nvm [02:12:00] tada [02:12:18] too far [02:12:54] (I think I erased something by accident during the step of recreating this) [02:17:13] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1281800412927885352/image.png?ex=66dd0929&is=66dbb7a9&hm=363c8e63365992d030bd12cefdefab6c518974bb98b7e3e18f8921e7445ac15d& [02:17:20] mobile looks weird [02:17:28] blank gap [02:24:02] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1281802128641359956/IMG_4905.png?ex=66dd0ac2&is=66dbb942&hm=a3fceeca8d6e2d17cd94057d7df2ffbea8aab9b23a529f65c3c6ad9d4533bae7& [02:24:07] I stand by this [02:31:02] Why's the Wikipedia main page difficult to replicate? [02:31:25] because they use a lot of depedencies [02:32:18] [[Wikipedia]] [02:32:18] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Wikipedia [02:32:19]

[02:36:25] i wonder what the overlap of "people who can successfully import wikipedia templates" and "programmers" is [02:36:56] true [02:37:24] and I would need help [02:47:18] [1/2] Realize - Wikipedia as it exists today was built over decades by the free time of hundreds of people, all with slightly different ideas of how a thing should work. [02:47:18] [2/2] It's template turtles all the way down, untangling that doesn't happen overnight and requires personal patience and willingness to do the work. [02:52:45] https://furrnations.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [02:53:01] I touched accidentally the main page and I messed up [02:53:12] can rollback to the edit of August 2 [02:53:18] pls [02:53:38] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1281809578186772582/FurrNations.jpg?ex=66dd11b2&is=66dbc032&hm=948afc942ccb54fe3c50d0969f62175ce6f365da3d9dbb13d78afe69856eb308& [02:53:47] it need to look that [02:54:00] [1/2] not that [02:54:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1281809670906056714/image.png?ex=66dd11c8&is=66dbc048&hm=f244a9b4521603a0a0c93ac1f7c724545f606e81a55b51d3a98d4dae8557b5fc& [03:01:05] nvm [03:01:14] I need to NOT TOUCH IT [03:01:22] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1281811523680993301/image.png?ex=66dd1382&is=66dbc202&hm=945804cc6360a9e98e572f6741cc4a5e3d0d246a4f61a0f416d4d1a092939710& [03:01:24] Fixed [03:02:26] You should be able to roll back edits yourself, but yes, patience and the purge button go a long way when you're waiting to see the results of edits. [03:02:58] but sometimes fails [03:03:03] the rollbacks [03:05:13] due edit conflict [03:05:13] Also reminder that images with borderline/definitely nsfw content shouldn't be posted in general chat if you're needing formatting help. [03:05:56] If remaking this were easier [03:05:58] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page [03:07:42] and making mobile responsible [03:36:51] https://furrnations.miraheze.org/wiki/Spanish_FurrNations [03:36:56] probaby [04:11:38] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1281829206719991858/image.png?ex=66dd23fa&is=66dbd27a&hm=56f220a080dbbdb03be8a3f91dfc9988bb87488babe7ded1754fe1744f9b531e& [07:54:38] Heyy you have returned😂 [07:56:55] Is there any minidrivers allowing OSes to interact with it? [08:38:43] I know it's been done [08:39:07] and I know the time it's been done was so slow and memey that you really have to enjoy that specific idea to actually want to do it [08:39:21] literally running an OS at dialup capacities [08:46:18] Today's plan: finish with [[IRC]] and translate [[Miraheze spaces code of conduct]] [08:46:18] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/IRC https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_spaces_code_of_conduct [08:48:04] excellent [09:12:25] IMHO policy pages should be translation priority but at the same time they are harder to xlate due to wording and preserving context. [09:12:42] I would start with a DeepL translation, and then end up re-writing it anyway. [09:19:15] conventional attitude has been anti-automated but at this point I'm not sure how feasible it is to translate otherwise [09:19:38] handcrafted translations may be optimal but they take time, are sparse to come by and then good luck ensuring they're up to date [09:19:41] always been an issue [09:23:13] When I put a lot of effort into a translation only to log back in a week later and source has been completely re-written (which I why I am against renaming SRE to tech) [09:23:32] <_arawynn> if it's about translations to or from German, I'd be willing to help [09:24:10] You can apply at [[meta:translators]] [09:24:10] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/translators [09:24:31] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Translatorsthat meta, not the WMF meta [09:25:08] frankly a lot of policies are in need of review and rewrite [09:25:12] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Translators (the chat bridge destroyed the formatting again) [09:25:17] which is of course rather inconvenient to the translation process [09:26:00] part of why I do like a more limited scope of translatable pages because outside of policies is so much more stuff that needs to be rewritten and the translation gobblygook really gets in the way at that point [09:26:11] At some point I have considered writing a mechanism that would notify of anything policy related which could make the translations out of date [09:26:47] I've wondered for a while if there's a point of setting up almost a committee of sorts of regular translators to go over making the process smoother or something [09:26:55] so pulling you, legroom, etc in a room for it [09:27:32] <_arawynn> cool, I'll look into it - I'm absolutely new to making wikis ^^' [09:27:35] I am totally down to participate [09:28:41] It does not matter if you are new, MediaWiki is not scary at all, it does tend to implode on itself at times, and we have [[extension:translate]] and you can probably figure it out in a few minutes. [09:28:41] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/extension:translate [09:29:07] mediawiki basically has a lot of little stuff to learn, put all together it makes a tidy picture but you need to know where to look first :p [09:29:27] managewiki simplifies a lot of that on the frontend [09:29:33] not all though [09:29:44] Managewiki is the sole reason I did not go insane when learning it on a local vm [09:33:44] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Structural_evolution_of_the_European_Union if you wanted to see wiki madness at level 10, here is a template. I have no clue how it works. [10:02:12] <_arawynn> I'm honestly more worried about accidentally breaking something or the formatting because I have almost zero idea about technical stuff and programming (though - insane as I am - I intend to teach myself HTML XD) [10:12:14] most of the time writing wiki pages involves wiki text, HTML joins if you want to make stuff fancy [10:13:02] as for current translation process on Meta, it uses Translation extension which offers special UI for translating portions of original (in oir case English) text [10:13:47] but I personally do not like this extension and which there would be alternatives, either another, more convenient extension or manual subpage wrangling [10:14:15] *wish there were [10:46:41] hiya; is there a way to have pages have the same sort of add entry function that talk pages have? [11:03:57] what kind of addition? [11:10:36] Add topic? [11:34:12] Hey can someone tell me how can I create a new protection level? [11:35:06] I meant what they to add on a non talk page in a similar way [11:36:25] [1/2] aside from default three? [11:36:25] [2/2] I don't think it's possible w/ ManageWiki and I'd say try to make a phorge task, whether tech folks are able or will do that - I don't know [11:37:39] Ok and how cna I add logo along with my wiki name? [11:39:55] We can [11:39:59] It's super easy for tech [11:41:18] @xaloria45 make a [[phorge]] task re: protection levels [11:41:18] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phorge [11:41:19]

[11:42:35] [1/3] logo is set via Additional settings, Styling tab [11:42:35] [2/3] you need to upload logo image on wiki first, preferable size is 135x135px [11:42:35] [3/3] if you're using Vector 2022 skin tho, you might need to work w/ wordmark option, that's basically horizontal long logo [11:43:30] @rhinosf1 Ok superb so I've created a new task can you check it an do it https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12553 [11:46:28] I changed the logo but it's not showing. [11:47:35] [1/2] did you pasted correct file link? [11:47:35] [2/2] might take some time to update too [11:50:30] Ok [11:50:48] Looks good to me [11:51:33] Ok so, can you create that new protection level now. [11:51:51] Someone will do it [11:53:18] But can't you do that yourself [11:56:24] Anyone can do it [11:56:31] The config is on github [11:56:43] Unlikely I'll get round to to it before I go away [11:56:46] Can I myself do this [11:56:51] Yup [11:57:00] Ok so how can I do this [11:57:17] https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config [11:57:36] Create a pull request and one of the mediawiki team will merge [11:58:25] I'm confused [11:58:58] [1/2] you gotta code by yourself [11:58:58] [2/2] if you don't how to code such stuff, then wait for someone looking at your phorge task [11:59:15] friendly reminder, we are all volunteering here [12:00:07] Actually did I said guys are'nt doing this. [12:00:49] I meant that you were urging Rhinos to do it now [12:01:14] Cause I've never done things like this before so had no idea. [12:01:47] We was a royal we [12:02:00] I'm fairly confident it won't be me that actually does the work [12:57:49] [1/3] According to Miraheze global policies, is allowed to admins supress some revisions to be hidden for his personal gain (self-censoring)? [12:57:49] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1281961621564035116/Screenshot_20240907_193011_Samsung_Internet.png?ex=66dd9f4c&is=66dc4dcc&hm=d3c0ba7756600065ac097afe7079927ef3d427fb7841f77b4679bb5a6d4290c9& [12:57:49] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1281961622025535551/Screenshot_20240907_193040_Samsung_Internet.png?ex=66dd9f4c&is=66dc4dcc&hm=161a8a86e4105ea9d91a0d7fffd1cd1394065077bfc6b37b1e27871d9451a78a& [12:58:07] Not only for himself, he also does for his friend tho [12:58:22] @Stewards [12:58:50] -# sorry for ping if you don't like to pinged [13:01:30] not a reason to mass ping [13:09:48] [1/2] There is no explicit policy that serves as the basis for stewards' actions [13:09:48] [2/2] If a local administrator is violating other policies and trying to hide from community, that would be a separate warning issue, but revision deletion itself is not a problem [13:18:15] Omg, someone asked a question in the fandom wiki, using a screenshot from the Miraheze Wiki 😭 [13:19:05] Ok [13:19:27] If you have nothing to say, don't say anything [13:29:28] [[TC_101]] is a good guide. No bus [13:29:28] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/TC_101 [13:29:28]

[13:29:30] Bias [13:29:34] God damn you [13:29:49] [[User:PixDeVl/TC 101]] [13:29:49] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:PixDeVl/TC_101 [13:29:51]

[13:30:27] Normally I see people in the phighting wiki channel complaining about shit on the old fandom lmO [13:54:47] [1/2] anyone know what is this called? i kind of want to make the same thing for my wiki [13:54:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1281975961545605191/image.png?ex=66ddaca7&is=66dc5b27&hm=7bfe157c6a7e4aab78b1baabb4aa6ebbe7797a8eadb8ef76f681928ddab49e85& [13:54:55] the speech box thing for notes [13:55:07] footnote [14:02:20] [[mw:References]] [14:02:20] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/References [14:02:22]

[14:05:29] [1/2] how do i move perks (the one that is selected) to the center [14:05:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1281978654921981972/image.png?ex=66ddaf29&is=66dc5da9&hm=53c48d68bdee826c143f7c6ad7b9f2392f75efc30ac4c0f11526459f8b1381a4& [14:05:46] because visual editor doesnt work editor [14:06:10] [1/2] text-align:center; [14:06:11] [2/2] ? [14:17:43] popups extension [14:55:35] Hi. I do not understand the instructions for setting up a custom domain. If I point my subdomain to cf-lb.miraheze.org, as the instructions say, how would this be eventually resolved to my wiki? [14:56:15] We add your domain as a custom hostname on Cloudflare [14:56:41] And we add your custom domain to a setting on your wiki so mediawiki knows which wiki to use [14:57:51] Oh. I'm doing the second option, so that you do not have to configure it. https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Custom_domains [14:58:40] I suggest you do the CNAME method [14:58:48] You will get faster performance [14:59:59] Yeah, the CNAME is the second option. [15:00:34] I guess I'm confused. I thought the first option was to set up the nameservers, and the second option was via setting the CNAME. [15:01:11] Yep that's the best at the moment [15:01:31] You just need to point a CNAME and we'll do everything else [15:04:55] [1/2] Ok. So, I should direct it to cf-lb.miraheze.org? [15:04:55] [2/2] Oh. I forgot about the field in my settings where I place the domain name. [15:05:07] Sorry. [15:07:18] Yup [15:07:23] We add it to settings for you [15:07:27] Once it's complete [15:07:38] Although we can basically fully automate it under cloudflare [15:09:15] OK. I added the CNAME record. [15:09:35] My site on miraheze is workerowned [15:10:04] Make the request on Special:RequestSSL and someone will do it [15:10:14] I changed the name though, but my understanding is that should not matter. [15:10:45] Same URL, same DB name. [15:11:23] @reception123 seen as you are yapping away, any chance you can take a look at ssl requests [15:11:32]