[01:28:17] If it’s a day that ends with a Y, Miraheze is having cache issues. 😭 [01:38:27] does miraheze have cache issue? [01:45:06] Template pages on my wiki are still missing [01:51:41] Yes. Cache issues are coming up daily in this chat [01:53:55] I noticed something funny the other day. If you are on mobile and your templates are not displaying, while they are on the browser where you are logged in, go do an edit. You’ll see the updated version from the database [02:21:35] [1/4] Maybe the load balancer is picking out some catch servers. my wiki has no page integrity due to the cache server. [02:21:35] [2/4] The image shows the cache of two pages in the help namespace [02:21:35] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1283251060663914497/image.png?ex=66e2502e&is=66e0feae&hm=73027b4bcba03ede073fedd8eaf2471da6bd3198815e317cc231b2723ff07113& [02:21:35] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1283251061053849714/image.png?ex=66e2502e&is=66e0feae&hm=4b12192688faebec05ab4364a29111bf96313226eb61ac7d23adcd0bac45d4d3& [03:00:14] Is there a way to add collapsible sections for infobox in mobile view? Since "" doesn't show by default in Minerva [03:20:11] this may sound stupid, but how do you edit the name of a page? [03:23:32] You move it by going into the "More" menu and clicking "Move" [04:11:16] https://pokemonunbound.miraheze.org/wiki/Magnolia_Caf%C3%A9#Caf%C3%A9_Schedule i cant figure out why the table is formatting like this [04:18:44] I updated a page that existed for 2 years. Then all the history disappeared. And it overwrote the cache as a new page. If the wiki is vandalized now, we risk not being able to restore it. [04:26:18] col or rowspan with the wrong values [04:26:53] col or rowspan with the wrong values so they're overarching [04:27:25] i see.. [04:27:39] TY! [04:36:40] Hey there guys, has TemplateStyles broke or something ? It was working fine and somehow it just shows the TemplateStyles link now [04:37:34] I use templatestyles and it works fine on my wiki [04:38:12] A table broke on my wiki today but viewing older versions on my other laptop fixed it? [04:38:22] [1/2] Ah, does this issue seems familiar to you ? it works on other pages but it shows it like that on the template page [04:38:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1283285484360958003/image.png?ex=66e2703d&is=66e11ebd&hm=7c899c725b59af88a033e508ee257e8cb9b9e930ddf0f2eaab4c7426807f4c05& [04:38:41] That kinda looked like mine [04:39:31] [1/2] Mine just sawed the raw text in the table and completely broke it because of this [04:39:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1283285775219163136/image.png?ex=66e27083&is=66e11f03&hm=53dab859c99c1ae18e7498d70d2379f9e2b91d10b6c1fdbfd157cfc26a031840& [04:40:31] Okay purged, somehow it fixed it, could be a misload [04:41:18] Was weird because it was the only one out of the six that use that style and opening a new page was still showing the issue 👀 [04:41:28] huh strange [05:03:22] is there a way to have a bot to mass edit a wiki? once I get some actual new modules done I'd like to mass edit pages in one go [05:03:51] > [11/09/2024 15:03] is there a way to have a bot to mass edit a wiki? once I get some actual new modules done I'd like to mass edit pages in one go [05:04:05] gamerdanceryt: yep! you'll need to set it up and/or host it though [05:04:49] oh nice [05:05:00] for bulk editing, i'd consider [[WP:AutoWikiBrowser]], [[WP:JavascriptWikiBrowser]], and [[mw:Extension:MassEditRegex]] [05:05:00] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WP:AutoWikiBrowser https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WP:JavascriptWikiBrowser https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MassEditRegex [05:05:06] links: [11/09/2024 15:05] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WP:AutoWikiBrowser https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WP:JavascriptWikiBrowser https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MassEditRegex [05:05:42] thanks for the links. I'll go ahead and save them. [05:33:02] role icons W [05:47:27] hm? [05:52:08] BlankEclair: level 2 boosted gives server access to role icon [09:13:41] I hope it’s temporary [09:13:57] everything else has been [09:26:43] Hello! [10:43:45] The cache thing keeps happening. I can't edit on computer because the recent edit is not saved. And when i purge the cache it remains the same. I think is the server-side cache [10:49:28] cache thing? [11:36:18] [1/4] i set my wiki on english [11:36:18] [2/4] and i write everything on english [11:36:19] [3/4] but elmost everything is underlined with red [11:36:19] [4/4] why? [11:36:29] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1283390709134786583/image.png?ex=66e2d23d&is=66e180bd&hm=f0eb84d57b4ec79edfcf87990e0a5308f58144ec082359bac3f44dda2d3b5e19& [11:38:46] this depends on your browser's vocabulary settings [11:39:48] ah i see, thank you [11:47:21] @MirahezeRelay Hey why can't I still get the protection level of Template Editor I can't see any option to apply Template Editor protection level in Page why? [11:49:10] xaloria45: you'll need to allow administrators/sysops to edit template protected pages [11:49:18] https://cricketnepal.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/permissions/sysop -> check "edittemplateprotected" [11:49:45] (-> click "Save") [11:51:28] mirahezerelay is just a bot, there is no direct pinging people on the irc side; you can hope they're still there and just type their name in plain text [11:51:48] and since I know my inbox is about to pop, I will already respond - give it an hour or so [11:53:10] > [11/09/2024 21:51] mirahezerelay is just a bot, there is no direct pinging people on the irc side; you can hope they're still there and just type their name in plain text [11:53:26] well, there is--mentioning their nick (the equivalent of a username) typically brings up a notification [11:53:45] [1/2] And actually now how to modify this and make this text only Allow on template editors. [11:53:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1283395053066387476/Screenshot_2024_0911_173717.jpg?ex=66e2d648&is=66e184c8&hm=10fcfaaff0721138a1e646ea1bb2f731d6dc5a86ae1aa4b73deb9d9adf40a6ef& [11:54:48] BlankEclair (this is the way btw), I didn't phrase that well but yes and I tried to get the gist of that across - caveat being you need to be there in order for that to work [11:55:31] xaloria45: edit MediaWiki:protect-level-edittemplateprotected [11:55:44] oh okay ^_^ [11:55:51] Is Miraheze Relay only a bit isn't a real human typing this. [11:56:31] nah i'm not just a bot [11:56:52] It's a bot that shows messages from irc [11:56:56] (i was about to go a bit more shitposty, but i think i should be serious at the moment) [11:56:58] yeah ^ [11:57:42] Whatever is in <> is the user stating the message [11:59:42] IRC is another place where people can chat [11:59:57] the bot just transfers messages between two platforms [12:06:57] Ok hey can you teach me how to set a preload message in a page? [12:09:40] first you need to make a Template page which will be used as preloaded code/content [12:10:05] then you need to sett up an Inputbox w/ preload function [12:11:32] [1/3] it's an extension, you need to enable it [12:11:32] [2/3] how to use it: [12:11:32] [3/3] [12:12:12] the inputbox should be placed on another, normal kind of page [12:19:14] Ok I will try doing this [12:19:14] I've an Input box enabled next. [12:27:19] next please read the documentation I linked above, I haven't these for ages and can't remember everything [12:27:55] I can show you how I made on my wiki but it's very complicated and most likely will confuse you [12:53:11] [1/2] re #minor-announcements [12:53:11] [2/2] but why? [13:12:05] BZPN is the only one who can say tbh [13:12:47] personally I am on board for channels here for those wikis, I'm less convinced for entirely split servers [13:13:19] and I hope it's clear what my issue is with servers created unilaterally even by a bureaucrat or its equivalent (consul on testwiki) [13:15:51] TestWiki discord [13:15:53] Very useful [13:15:57] mmmm [13:16:04] Hey we have icons again [13:16:18] Kiju boosted us to level 2 [13:16:27] but we're missing the banner [13:16:30] kiju is the lad [13:21:56] that was my first thought, it's a test wiki - a channel here would be more convenient, cus it doesn't have some kind greater purpose and communities behind it like "normal" wikis on Miraheze, and it would a hassle to jump between servers for that [13:23:59] if it even needs a channel ... [13:24:01] and as far as arguing for traffic, I see substantial benefit to getting more people involved in the global meta community for a miraheze spaces project [13:24:24] more people will see test wiki with a channel here fulfilling one side; more people from test will see miraheze, a bilateral benefit (argument if it needs any discord presence aside) [13:31:20] interestingly we have #miraheze-testwiki on irc [13:31:24] (gonna sleep now, nini) [13:41:05] Yeah I support this. [13:48:06] testwiki on irc reinforces making a bridged channel here, then [13:53:34] Agreed [13:53:45] Also May wanna make a site notice on PTW [13:57:55] cc @alpad_ and @kiju1108 as the co-consuls on discord [14:01:19] @raidarr I've never heard of TestWiki having an IRC... [14:02:02] now that it's come up I remember it, but it's easy to forget [14:02:21] zero real advertising, a small community even smaller with its testwiki focus [14:02:35] I understand that you want to deprive local communities of their autonomy and connect them all on global messengers/wikis? [14:02:58] that is a very polar read on the matter [14:03:27] I meant that it might work for small, local communities [14:04:03] And there is a large and comprehensive community on TestWiki, but it is rarely active [14:04:11] On wiki [14:05:18] And Discord is faster, everyone has access to it and everyone can react faster, even if they have only a phone with them [14:05:20] The issue with branching off wikis like TestWiki into their own little corner is that it'll likely suffer from the same fate as the IRC channel has. Having a channel here will give it much more exposure to a larger userbase [14:05:23] [1/4] the core for me is that we have projects which have already been authorized as official projects: their autonomy is already glued to the global project. See, [14:05:23] [2/4] [14:05:23] [3/4] I am not speaking on any other project and I do not want any other project to be centralized. Indeed my desire to see more people involved in meta is complicated by the fact I want wikis to have perhaps more than usual levels of independence. But for projects on this list the dynamic is different because they posess official miraheze affiliation, and their management has strong overl [14:05:24] [4/4] ap with global management. This is where it is relevant to ask if the communities should fork off as they wish, say a consul just making a discord server on behalf of a miraheze project, or if they should, as official extensions, be better connected to the whole. [14:06:21] you may see locally that I carefully avoid forcing or even fully endorsing a particular angle as I do think it is something that should be decided within testwiki itself, even if others may reasonably take another view that maybe it should be a more meta-based discussion. [14:09:12] [1/2] normally I'd try to base on global policy but since the miraheze projects page is mostly what we've got on that, it becomes a somewhat philosophical discussion of how this should be handled. And for miraheze projects, yes, I do believe a more central approach is good as these are officially represented extensions of miraheze itself, and being entirely on their own except for where gl [14:09:12] [2/2] obal volunteers are involved can result in issues. [14:09:55] I don't know how but I forgot about the fact that Miraheze projects are finally codified [14:10:12] it's not very well advertised [14:10:47] dev wiki started to get some recognition tho [14:11:10] that was a very good thing, and I think template and dev merging was an excellent step too [14:15:10] I see a good purpose in the TestWiki Discord server, and I will stick to it. I invite everyone who is active there and knows the community at least a little to discuss this topic on the TestWiki Community portal 🙂 [14:26:51] @xaloria45 please read what my profile bio says [14:27:36] I don't perform support "duties" in DMs [14:28:33] Hey I wanted to know on thing If I had created a new protection level like we use MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext for displaying warning If I had an new how can I add a new warning for that [14:45:18] Hallo how long must i wait to start my own wiki [14:45:36] What do you mean [14:46:14] requests can be made immediately, processing can take several days and more if more details are necessary [14:46:18] I register me yesterday and answer the questions [14:46:59] I will start to write my own rpg wiki [14:47:26] I must wait some days? [14:47:39] for ongoing requests I would reasonably give it 1-3 days [14:47:53] beyond that and someone is in an off period or may have forgotten, it somewhat depends on the requestor [14:47:59] on the reviewer* [14:48:48] I will recieve a Email? [14:49:38] Yes, if you've connected an email address to your account [14:50:51] didn't we make it impossible to use the form without email, or am I misremembering [14:52:23] Thx you [14:53:44] [1/2] You can do that using a switch! {{#switch: $1 | protect [14:53:45] [2/2] | exampleprotection level = This page is '''protected''' and can only be edited by XYZ user group}}. You can then add other levels to the switch. I'd recommend importing https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext and then customizing it. [14:55:04] Yeah request wiki can't be used without an email [14:55:52] Excellent, wasn't sure if we'd finally implemented that. [15:02:05] Ok [15:03:08] I've done this but not working on consul. [15:09:31] If your wiki does not have a consul permission level, either delete that portion or customize that portion to your needs. [15:15:59] I'm talking in Public Test WIki. [15:29:22] Hmm [15:29:43] Yes [15:42:36] Still not sowing. [17:11:20] I edited one of my wiki requests to provide additional context after it was placed on hold: however, after looking at it again, apparently the changes I made never happened and there is a blank comment where the "Updated request" message should be: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/48947#mw-section-comments [18:37:24] What happened to categories and some arts? [18:37:45] It showing me like there are not existing. [18:37:53] there's something w/ non-english wikis yes [18:37:57] 🤔 [18:38:00] folks are looking into the fix [18:38:03] Ah! I understand. [18:38:25] I saw it since our migration & recreation of Miraheze. [18:39:10] You see, since I have returned to Fandom we decided to close Blizzardpedia. However we can still use this site. So we decided to recreate it as Nexuspedia - wiki about Nexus Mods. [18:39:32] Clever, eh? [20:09:55] Is there a credit tool for people that helped me but dont have a account? [20:13:04] what do you mean? in like, writing the article? [20:13:10] Anons are identified by IPs only [20:13:37] For now [20:27:09] Maybe for like friends or something? [20:28:03] Taking alot of screenshots 😂 [20:28:18] What are anons? [20:28:35] Anonymous editors [20:28:40] Logged out [20:28:52] if you are uploading them by yourself, you can credit these people in file descriptions (it's actually must be done, by rules) [20:29:47] [1/2] Ah i see [20:29:47] [2/2] Thanks [20:30:47] Thats gonna be alot of work for all these pictures 😂 [20:54:23] anyone else having an issue where files reuploaded will intermittently display the old version but only on pages it's transcluded on? [20:54:55] it seems to only happen when I'm logged into the account I reuploaded the file with as I tried logging out and logging into a different account and it loads normally [21:52:12] infobox military conflict isnt avaliable on dev from what i'm seeing, should i just recreate it with the portable infobox builder [21:52:33] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Search?fulltext=1&profile=default&search=infobox+military [21:58:23] Use the infobox Template to make a military infobo [21:59:29] Portable Infobox is generally our recommended approach, but either route is good [22:00:05] [1/2] Helpful links for PI: [22:00:06] [2/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1048292890050318427 [22:00:18] i think i just figured out how to import it ? the only issue is it tells me there's no templatedata documentation when i open templatewiki to put it in [22:00:28] not wiki [22:00:30] templatewizard [22:01:17] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1283547942464262144/image.png?ex=66e364ac&is=66e2132c&hm=e915fb78ff5089fce507b28e06c84e6717779451e8a96c266f344898d37b96e6& [22:01:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1283547942703075349/image.png?ex=66e364ac&is=66e2132c&hm=9749b1d6a25585b4b54098788c6b29be5930c94f5548cce516fefcc50d7f01bc& [22:16:34] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1283551789064392846/hey.PNG?ex=66e36841&is=66e216c1&hm=fbdd97021597cb0936a94c71f30f95a4f4cd504bd912e2c8450010a030a76bab& [22:16:35] ??? [22:19:39] [1/2] also the data is there [22:19:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1283552566411526236/image.png?ex=66e368fb&is=66e2177b&hm=ff1792bafab5801f22dccd3f6a06b1f52fdc7449a3db9e56f93adf6db50a4391& [22:19:42] so idk whats going on [22:22:41] Sorry for the late reply. Its fine now, thanks. [22:36:54] SMW anywhere near being fixed or still a ways away? [22:38:24] potential fix coming soon™️ [22:38:29] as in, perhaps in 10 minutes [22:39:22] May be the soonest soon we’ve ever trademarked [22:41:00] 10 minutes??? awesome tyy! [22:41:59] /j [22:46:22] try now [22:55:38]