[00:19:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ken.youdigit> i think it's just a wikipedia thing
[00:43:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov, replying to raidarr> Self terminating tags are neat, especially for parsing
[01:06:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> What are skins for
[01:32:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai, replying to princessellierose> You can't delete them through the delete tab?
[01:32:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <princessellierose> there is no delete tab
[01:32:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> What groups are you trying to remove?
[01:32:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <princessellierose> groups from extensions that I had enabled but have since disabled
[01:33:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <princessellierose> [1/2] these ones specifically (excluding bots and bureaucrat)
[01:33:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <princessellierose> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1285775649868353596/jjzvZpq.png?ex=66eb7f63&is=66ea2de3&hm=6e7b05dd75ba83985b0d3bc3fa4b74a0388378ba78ed9548d279f717e8de481c&
[01:33:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> hmm, odd
[01:33:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to tempette> changing the fundemental apperance of a wiki
[01:33:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> How do I get one
[01:34:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> you can enable them in Special:ManageWiki/extensions
[01:34:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> and select them in Special:Preferances
[01:34:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> I see
[01:34:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Let me try that
[01:42:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Holy fucking shit it worked
[01:42:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to pixldev> Although the Special:ManageWiki/extensions is confusing on how it works
[01:42:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> It dosent really change anything no matter what I click
[01:43:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to tempette> how so
[01:44:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [1/2] I click something like this and nothing happens
[01:44:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1285778385221451816/Screenshot_20240918_084357_Chrome.jpg?ex=66eb81ef&is=66ea306f&hm=a7a48e2fe5a6813f7e85d767b246e410c249855e76de40e2b696138de11ea212&
[01:44:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to tempette> enabling the skin adds it to the wiki in that users can select it
[01:44:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> you can also set the default skin
[01:44:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> in managewiki/sesstings
[01:44:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Oh I see
[02:20:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> What in css changes the text color
[02:25:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu, replying to tempette> [1/7] ```css
[02:25:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu, replying to tempette> [2/7] color: something;
[02:25:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu, replying to tempette> [3/7] ```
[02:25:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu, replying to tempette> [4/7] ex:
[02:25:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu, replying to tempette> [5/7] ```html
[02:25:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu, replying to tempette> [6/7] <span style="color: red;">this is red/span
[02:25:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu, replying to tempette> [7/7] ```
[03:53:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [1/2] How do I change the color of this?
[03:53:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1285810900711768134/Screenshot_20240918_105207_Chrome.jpg?ex=66eba037&is=66ea4eb7&hm=969151fe1c3dfc558ea569515fd793d293788be03d900cbbc847dde4b23d250c&
[03:53:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> The page and the line under it
[04:12:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/4] Page is a link, you need to find its class, so
[04:12:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/4] `.classname a { color: ...; }`
[04:12:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [3/4] this might or might nor need `!important`
[04:12:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [4/4] the lines is a border iirc
[04:12:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you should poke around w/ browser's element inspector
[04:13:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> to find classes/id's etc
[09:50:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> I think the line is an :after
[11:21:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to avengium> Couldn't find it
[11:31:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> [1/3] Once you are on the Browser > right click > inspect element,
[11:31:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> [2/3] The browser dev tools appear.
[11:31:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> [3/3] Is like another tab with HTML and options
[11:31:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> You righy click the link, inspect element. And the 'elements' tab on your dev tools focus on the part of the HTML that is that line
[11:47:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> [1/9] ```#mw-page-header-links li.selected a {
[11:47:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> [2/9]     color: #dddd00;
[11:47:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> [3/9] }```
[11:47:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> [4/9] is for the color of the page header.
[11:47:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> [5/9] And this is for the line under the text:
[11:47:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> [6/9] ```.tools-inline li.selected {
[11:47:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> [7/9]     border-bottom-color: #33cc5a;
[11:47:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> [8/9] }```
[11:47:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> [9/9] @tempette
[11:47:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Oh ty
[11:48:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> you have to write that on your common.css or <skin_name>.css page
[11:48:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> Make the page keep some order, so you can find the code easily in the future
[12:04:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1285934412030279690/Inspect_element_2024-09-18_01.jpg?ex=66ec133f&is=66eac1bf&hm=2def560afc74ad015772ac789c35f42e29900beaeb54fe32538454f6444a05b2&
[12:05:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gtech6> Does anyone know what causes some wiki requests to be still pending after 10 days? Did the reviewers just miss them or are they pending for this long for a reason?
[12:06:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> please link, on that timeline something is wrong
[12:06:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gtech6> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue?dbname=&requester=&status=inreview
[12:07:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gtech6> Oh this was more of a general question, just noticed there's like 3 requests from over a week ago
[12:09:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> It can come about when there is extended back and forth
[13:28:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [1/2] Am I allowed to use this image if I credit the original artist?
[13:28:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1285955645128052778/Screenshot_20240918_202806_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ec2705&is=66ead585&hm=75292af92fc80370dc76ad823a5449a1e16f470067373b889077c3c4264cb8c3&
[13:28:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> (It's by Pablo Carlos Budassi, it was made FOR Wikipedia)
[13:30:32] <BlankEclair>	 tempette: depends on its license
[13:30:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> How do I check that
[13:30:54] <BlankEclair>	 nevertheless, since it's for wikimedia commons, you should be able to use it without even reuploading the image
[13:30:58] <BlankEclair>	 check the image description
[13:32:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> "Please mention the author's name along with each image copy you use"
[13:32:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Seems like I just have to mention thier name then :3
[13:32:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to BlankEclair> Idk how to do it without re-uploading the image (I'm trying to use an infobox)
[13:33:13] <BlankEclair>	 tempette: you should be able to only specify the file nae
[13:33:15] <BlankEclair>	 name*
[13:33:20] <BlankEclair>	 and it'd transparently appear on your wiki
[13:33:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Hmmm, I'll see if that works
[13:34:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> So like [File:Extended blah blah.png]?
[13:38:10] <BlankEclair>	 tempette: yeah
[13:38:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Alr let's see if this works
[13:44:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> by default Miraheze wikis can use Wikipedia's files, basically
[13:45:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> if you type filename and there's no such file on your wiki locally, it will use file of the same name from WP
[16:16:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ken.youdigit, replying to tempette> it's CC-BY-SA 4.0 so yes
[16:20:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ken.youdigit> you just have to give attribution
[16:21:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I went to the post office in the UK and it shows as USPS
[16:23:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ken.youdigit, replying to rhinosf1> :KKona:
[16:29:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <obviouslyoctus> -# what is a kilometre
[16:30:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> a thousand metres
[16:30:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_arawynn> 0.62 miles
[16:32:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ken.youdigit> the funny thing is that most imperial measurement units now are actually just defined by the metric counterparts
[16:32:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> metric is an objective standard, imperial is from the days you measured things in barn doors
[16:32:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> et al
[16:34:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ken.youdigit> imperial isn't one standard it's actually a combination of like a dozen standards over the span of millennia etc
[16:35:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ken.youdigit> like "why isn't the mile 5000 feet why is it 5280" because the roman mile (that we get the name from originally) is 5000 feet but the one queen elizabeth defined as being 5280 feet is the one we use
[16:35:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> measuring in literal feet is the standard that defines imperial by my understanding
[16:35:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ken.youdigit> also like 90% of "imperial measurements" especially on that one giant chart everyone has seen aren't used by almost anyone
[16:36:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ken.youdigit> the foot is defined by the meter
[16:36:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> or at least that motivated imperial
[16:36:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> bottom line is I guess imperial was for a time easier to define by relative terms but for me at least it's just a headache
[16:36:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ken.youdigit> actual feet haven't been used to measure a foot in like
[16:36:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ken.youdigit> centuries
[16:37:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Neat, I'm over 200 barleycorns in height.
[16:37:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ken.youdigit> but yes imperial has been defined by metric since 1959
[16:37:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ken.youdigit> 1 foot = 0.3048 meters
[16:38:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ken.youdigit> the meter definition is probably my least favorite metric definition
[16:38:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ken.youdigit> at least with the volume ones and temperature i can see what they were going for
[17:17:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [1/2] How do I change the color of this?
[17:17:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1286013351629164565/Screenshot_20240919_001730_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ec5cc4&is=66eb0b44&hm=175b103d8a5da628262de8a55c83d1f9fc2d3725dcb59c10e6c2f09f6af79bd0&
[17:18:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [1/2] And to get it out of the way, this aswell
[17:18:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1286013547914072181/Screenshot_20240919_001825_Chrome.jpg?ex=66ec5cf2&is=66eb0b72&hm=ac6a41a1a3621891058a658b9180d9e276234d59915e8450ed45e65557112f91&
[17:19:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> are you copying my css lol
[17:19:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> the first one is ToC portions, the second is more complicated, I modified UI elements
[17:24:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Pretty sure this one you recommended me to, maybe I'm remembering it wrong tho
[17:25:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I mean, I could showed my CSS but I don't advise folks copying everything
[17:25:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you gotta understand what are you doing first
[17:25:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> Ah probably miss heard then, sorry
[17:28:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> [1/4] To know the name of an element:
[17:28:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> [2/4] - right click on the browser
[17:28:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> [3/4] - go to the option "inspect element" on the right-click menu
[17:28:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> [4/4] - Click on element to make the browser dev tools focus on that object
[17:28:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to raidarr> Be like the UK and do both
[17:30:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> [1/2] @tempette  you can search the name of each element by yourself looking for it on the browser "inspect element"
[17:30:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1286016392319205529/image.png?ex=66ec5f98&is=66eb0e18&hm=02962344493055d7e5acd91e06f0e6c25eaa33a87700b306e0286b46c53dd0da&
[17:30:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tempette> I'm on mobile
[17:30:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <platyellow, replying to originalauthority> my backyard is about 20 barn doors
[17:31:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengium> there are webs that talk about how to inspect: https://blog.hubspot.com/website/how-to-inspect
[17:31:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> css dev isn't great on mobile in the first place tbh
[17:32:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths> Yea, and some ask you to use a laptop which is kinda useless :p