[00:00:20] ofc [00:00:38] may i ask what project you work on? [00:00:41] curious [00:07:34] oh hey another catgirl [00:23:10] [1/2] dear waki [00:23:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1287207525103571035/IMG_5110.png?ex=66f0b4ed&is=66ef636d&hm=8c5f7c07b6ff4ee5cb02e5bd6a56214e55393d347de1430a3e54752758a079c9& [00:23:17] I am sorry for using your talk page as a testing ground [00:25:27] pro-tip [00:25:30] dont? [00:25:36] we have meta sandbox [00:25:40] user sandbox [00:25:42] your own talk [00:28:22] imagine if it's some kind of obscure bug that only happens on his talk page [00:28:31] Can anyone tell me how can I change the project namespace of my wiki. [00:28:42] xaloria45: Special:ManageWiki/namespaces [00:43:16] I had to do it on someone else’s talk [00:43:25] to ensure the right buttons showed up [00:43:45] I just clicked a random user and it happened to be waki [00:43:58] uh, you can make an alt? [00:43:58] woulda done it on my own talk if I could [00:44:10] Do what [00:44:21] do the test [00:44:27] what test? [00:45:12] I wanted to see if specific buttons weren’t showing up or if that was just bc of the way things were set up [00:45:23] pretty sure I had to do it on another user’s talk [00:45:59] and I didn’t wanna make an alt just so I could test one tiny thing [00:46:13] uh, [[User:Example]]? [00:46:13] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Example [00:46:14] bc that would be more trouble that it would be worth [00:46:51] point being I don’t normally go around using random people’s talk pages as sandboxes, I had to do it this one time and that’s it [00:47:03] and I had no idea user:example existed, I’ll use that in the future [00:47:34] aaa how am i supposed to debug https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12516 without a shell [00:47:55] I’m sure you’ll think of something [00:48:26] I’m also sure I won’t like it(joke recycling saves the environment!) [00:52:13] Isn't that ever caused when a wiki adds a skin to wgSkipSkins? [00:52:26] wgSkipSkins is empty on csgamedevtycoon.miraheze.org [00:53:05] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/+/1064d5f/includes/preferences/DefaultPreferencesFactory.php#347 [00:53:13] i suspect $this->userOptionsManager->getOptions( $user ) is empty [00:54:19] nice [00:55:47] agent do you happen to be able to ssh in? [01:06:19] BlankEclair: yes [01:06:38] cool, i'm trying to figure out what to run [01:08:08] rm -rf / --no-preserve-root might fix the issue [01:08:10] don't quote me on it [01:08:41] hmm i was thinking more of dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda [01:25:26] agentisai: can you run https://bin.disroot.org/?94b5ebf08762da62#C1L5pX4PuHmKs3EoPzWc7vhjrMfAYnjcBHX2QYk5HZVF? [01:26:26] oh on csgamedevtycoonwiki [02:16:40] I think I got the hang of [[w:template:infobox]] [02:16:40] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:infobox [02:17:55] And the Animated Muscle Women Wiki has officially disappeared! If this keeps up, Miraheze may cease to exist. [02:25:30] i genuinely can't tell if you're shitposting or not [02:29:00] Where you talking to me? [02:29:12] did you mean "where" or "why" [02:29:56] I meant "were". [02:30:11] oh yes, i was [02:30:58] there's 16 GBs worth of files on the wiki, and miraheze's content policy explicitly states that it shouldn't be used as a file host [02:31:17] that being said, i DO have a backup of animatedmusclewomenwiki, so i can try to give it to you if you want [02:31:58] There are services that will host files on the web free of charge (or for a monthly fee) - Miraheze is NOT one of them [02:32:19] 1984 [02:32:40] the west has fallen [02:33:20] what's the average file size i wonder [02:33:45] 1009 KB, okay [02:33:54] Okay. Do you also have backups of Swallowed Whole, ENF Swim TF Girls, and Cartoon Pregnancy [02:34:05] no i don't [02:34:56] (this is a personal "service" btw, i just saw it being on wiki reports and went "someone's probably gonna ask for their stash, so i should back it up just in case") [02:35:42] per content policy: if Miraheze is being used to host wikis first, and content is uploaded to add encyclopedic value, then it's acceptable. If you are disguising a file dump as a wiki - then it's not. [02:38:55] So, what if someone tried recreating those wikis on a different website? [02:39:37] If that wiki farm allows such use case, then so be it. If not, I think you get the picture. [03:01:46] Apart from Miraheze and Fandom, what websites allow you to create wikis? [03:03:19] whitebetweentwogreens: see https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:Comparing_Miraheze_to_other_services and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hosting_services [03:48:23] What specific settings do you enable on VisualEditor to get it to... work lol [03:50:41] enabling the extension should just do it, but considering that you're asking, i think we're gonna spend an hour on this [03:50:50] what happens when you do ?veaction=edit [04:20:16] [1/2] damn [04:20:16] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1287267198066360370/image.png?ex=66f0ec80&is=66ef9b00&hm=a707fbc8c5276ddc6dde222ed97c98799cf805e1c2785a6f96bfb99a5edd9a24& [04:20:39] liked having them around [04:23:07] awh [04:23:42] woah, centralauth is weird... i'm logged out on meta.miraheze.org, but logged in on rainverse.wiki [04:23:48] i started my login session on login.miraheze.org [04:51:33] when I click on the edit next to edit source, nothing happens [04:51:44] browser console logs? [04:51:48] like I thiiiink it registers as a separate page, but it's just on the regular page [04:51:51] edit source works fine [04:51:51] (i'm busy talking to someone atm) [06:10:58] Quick question, and I know it is a bit dumb, but I'd like to ask it anyway: if a wiki uses Vector on desktop, and Minerva Neue, can we customize the mobile skin too under something like MediaWiki:MinervaNeue.css? [06:11:51] mobile.css i think [06:11:55] ah ok thx [06:12:34] because this was discussed in the system erasure wikis (zeroranger wiki and void stranger wiki), where the skin on desktop is nice and well customized, while the mobile is still default [06:45:56] welkamo: what wiki btw [06:47:36] Welkamolang [06:47:39] getting link [06:47:54] https://welkamolang.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [06:48:25] checked and unchecked a lot of boxes [06:49:10] how do i tell you this... https://files.catbox.moe/hv5jem.png [07:44:09] oh no [07:44:12] what did I do [07:44:19] I'm logged in I promise [07:44:50] did unchecking the boxes work????? [07:45:54] chances an existing wiki hosting will accept such type of wiki is very small, you guys need to either go self-hosting like animebathscenes does, or use different (not wiki) format (but still probably self-host) [07:46:10] does it have to be on the top edit/edit source [07:46:13] not little little ones [07:47:48] I thiiiink you want an image hosting site. This feels less like a wiki thing and more like an image hosting thing [07:48:06] if it needs to be a wiki thing than seconding legroom [07:48:16] can you check your user preferences, iirc there's visual editor setting [07:49:50] there we go [07:49:59] it's checked already [07:50:14] either the reset worked or I'm just really bad at knowing what to click [07:50:26] VE is buggy tbh [07:50:39] anyways, thank you legroom and blankeclair (mirahezerelay? how do I refer to you lol) [07:50:58] welkamo: yeah i'm BlankEclair (i'm talking on irc, which is bridged through the relay) [07:50:58] I mainly wanted to use it to see if tables would be less of a pain lol [07:51:05] gotcha [07:51:26] I recently found a site which converts tables between different formats including wiki text [07:51:36] I haven't tried w/ excel to mw tho [07:53:20] https://tableconvert.com/excel-to-mediawiki [08:20:52] technically, self-hosting can work too, if they specifically want a wiki to be used as an image hosting site instead, it's in their full control [08:20:53] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [08:21:39] technically, self-hosting a wiki can work too, if they specifically want a wiki to be used as an image hosting site instead, it's in their full control [08:21:46] will try tomorrow (the spreadsheet) [08:30:38] one more question: how do I change template infoboxes for things like size/border/setting a thing for color/etc [08:30:47] (ping in case I fall asleep) [08:35:34] CSS [09:39:54] [1/2] Sorry, I was busy in the last few days. This is the article where I did it. I'm not using a template atm [09:39:55] [2/2] https://wired.miraheze.org/wiki/Triggers [09:47:34] It's because you have an extra line break "
" after Marketplace [09:51:17] [1/2] While I wont insist on adding templates or code that I would first consider, I would suggest bunching it up a little as so. [09:51:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1287350497661157406/Untitled.jpg?ex=66f13a14&is=66efe894&hm=dafd35c0b77b4bdfc8b01b18661088d6287c1d782350c367353916226bdc5e67& [09:55:12] Thank you so much! [10:29:51] If you did need help with templates, don't be afraid to ask [12:13:44] [1/2] Okay I haven't done this in a long time but I've decided to check if there are any comments on any of the pages and when I clicked all comments this error popped up [12:13:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1287386350336872498/image.png?ex=66f15b78&is=66f009f8&hm=4f8d9099f0fac7d0df489a2e7b77ffdfdb1ec7ee11a258c0f45b47023bd2d2b8& [12:13:50] afaik, you can make a commons-like wiki in here too [12:15:03] copy-paste the error shown here, tech will check the exception ID from there [12:15:53] [cdd660589fc0b5d728017524] 2024-09-22 12:12:14: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBLanguageError" [12:16:34] i think we have an issue about that [12:17:07] sleepytail: https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12512 [12:18:29] [1/2] TL;DR: it's an extension bug [12:18:30] [2/2] upstream will have to fix it and then we will pull the new update [12:18:44] yeah pretty much ^^; [12:19:01] i tried taking a look at it, but it's a bit out of my depth so i'm probably not gonna be fixing it [12:19:02] i see [12:34:24] [1/3] you can, but the point is that files are used as extensions of properly written, meaningful articles [12:34:25] [2/3] those wikis very often are just pages w/ galleries w/ couple of sentences [12:34:25] [3/3] there's one wiki on Miraheze which could fall into same categories of those deleted wikis, but it's actually a collection of well documented tropes [12:35:51] tempted to import the animated muscle women wiki just to read its contents [12:36:01] (importing the images would be murder) [12:36:35] there not much written content, really, you can just browse files folder lol [12:36:45] yeah i mean the written contents [12:37:16] it's often short descriptions of characters or episodes [12:38:10] omg it's hilarious, i'm loading the images through sshfs and the image viewer freezes whenever i fullscreen [12:39:04] mind you, most of those mentioned wikis were shutdown before content policy changes, after copyright infringement complaints [12:39:20] *due to [12:39:58] here i am hoping that librewolf would be a quicker image viewer [12:41:40] while fandom deadass shut them down because of their, well, purpose [12:41:48] "The Proud Family- Louder and Prouder S01E02 — Bad Influence(r) (Female Muscle Scenes) 32.png" no male muscle scenes, devastated [12:45:39] https://files.catbox.moe/ojff6f.gif; she isn't even muscular (at least here) [12:46:39] enough looking at files, it's kinda boring :p [12:47:11] yeah lol [12:47:37] all of the files i've seen depict women though [12:47:38] I still don't get why they go w/ wiki format [12:47:48] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [12:47:58] do you think it's worthwhile if i setup a mw instance to peek at the text? [12:48:08] nah [12:49:03] Morning [12:49:09] mornyan [12:49:13] [1/2] I manage a fan vault on MEGA, which includes photos from shoots, concerts, etc [12:49:14] [2/2] and I just put date and context in folder's name, might add credits in there as well, or in separate file inside [12:49:15] heyo [12:49:20] i just looked through a few files of animatedmusclewomenwiki [12:49:30] i don't know what i expected but it's kinda boring [12:50:00] @rhinosf1 go buy hot chocolate or smt [12:50:42] Did that [12:50:56] And packed them [12:51:05] Cool [13:01:55] imagine cookie run wikis moved here [13:05:24] I wanted to know that how can I make User talk of my wiki also like Meta? [13:12:39] DiscussionTools extension [13:17:06] Hey I've enabled but still couldn't see anything like I wanted. [13:39:59] Hi [13:40:06] Hi [13:42:48] Unhi's your hi [13:48:52] Rehi’s your unhi of their hi [14:00:34] Unhi’s your rehi of my unhi of their hi [14:18:14] Dang [14:18:17] AnywYs [14:18:34] Chat how bad of an idea is it to put pieces of string cheese on bacon for break [14:18:56] This is how cooking works right [14:20:26] i'm hungry now, thanks [14:28:10] I did it [14:28:15] Let’s see how it turns out [14:28:23] Was hungy [14:36:35] BlankEclair: it’s done [14:37:19] Actually pretty good [15:25:09] Does anyone know how I can make my own template and make it functional? [15:26:05] What template do you need to make [15:26:32] Just in general, but let me find the main one quick. [15:27:49] [1/12] My friend wanted to make this template, but got stuck in a template loop. [15:27:49] [2/12] # I tried to create the following and it put me in a Template Loop [15:27:49] [3/12] {{Infobox Conflict [15:27:50] [4/12] | Conflict_name = War [15:27:50] [5/12] | filler = Belligerents [15:27:50] [6/12] [15:27:51] [7/12] | States1 = Nations fighting [15:27:51] [8/12] | Support1 = Sending aid but not fighting [15:27:51] [9/12] [15:27:51] [10/12] | States2 = Nations fighting [15:27:52] [11/12] | Support2 = Sending aid but not fighting [15:27:52] [12/12] }} [15:28:19] That looks more like the biolerplate you use to invoke the template [15:28:35] What's that mean? [15:29:14] I think that is the code you use to use the template, not the template itself IDK though [15:29:52] What is in the Template: Infobox Conflict page? [15:35:42] [1/5] [[mw:Help:Templates]] [15:35:42] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates [15:35:42] [2/5] basically - template is a page w/ `Template:` which has the code. [15:35:42] [3/5] when use template on normal page, you need to type different kind of code which functions like a card w/ fields you need to fill up w/ data. [15:35:43] [4/5] `{{infobox conflict...` it's that "card" usage code, not template itself. [15:35:43] [5/5] template loop means you are putting the same template inside itself. [15:35:43]

[15:37:06] [1/4] I suggest to read carefully this page [15:37:06] [2/4] [[Infoboxes]] [15:37:06] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Infoboxes [15:37:07] [3/4] and you can use some templates from Miraheze Dev Wiki< for example [15:37:07] [4/4] [[dev:Category:Infobox templates]] [15:37:07] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/dev:Category:Infobox_templates [15:37:07]

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[2/2] [15:37:20] I'm not sure honestly. [15:37:29] Thanks guys. [16:24:26] https://wateringdown.miraheze.org/wiki/Aquamarine for some reason the infobox I used for this page is completely broken, even though the source code for it seems to have no problems at all [16:24:35]