[00:33:43] Could that be related to this? [00:35:37] if it was a fictional version that seems like it would be accurate [00:36:01] It looks like there’s another amok wiki on miraheze already [00:36:13] the issue being wrangled is that such a wiki has historically attracted very problematic content [00:37:02] this one is for "user-created individuals", ie, made up, and not documenting real cases so if an amok for real stuff exists then they would be distinct [00:37:26] Ah [00:43:44] Yeah, many similar prior projects essentially turned into revenge/violence fantasy fanfic against basically real life people the owner had grudges against [00:44:08] To say that attracted unhealthy individuals would be putting it mildly [00:45:55] where do I request my wiki petition to be reviewed/how long it usually takes [00:52:56] the turnaround of first check tends to be within 3 days [00:53:12] and after submitting it's a matter of wait [01:48:42] [1/8] There's something wrong with the following permissions for some usergroups: [01:48:43] [2/8] `(block)` and `(unblockself)` appear as `(unblockselfblock)` [01:48:43] [3/8] `(editcontentmodel)` and `(transcode-reset)` appear as `(transcode-reseteditcontentmodel)` [01:48:43] [4/8] `(mwoauthupdateownconsumer)` and `(skip-moderation)` appear as `(mwoauthupdateownconsumerskip-moderation)` [01:48:44] [5/8] `(collectionsaveascommunitypage)` and `(skip-moderation)` appear as `(collectionsaveascommunitypageskip-moderation)` [01:48:44] [6/8] `(datatransferimport)` and `(masseditregex)` appear as `(masseditregexdatatransferimport)` [01:48:44] [7/8] `(populate-user-profiles)` and `(skip-moderation)` appear as `(populate-user-profilesskip-moderation)` [01:48:44] [8/8] `(forcepreviewexempt)` and `(webchat)` appear as `(webchatforcepreviewexempt)` [01:52:46] That was because the syntax is causing formatting and semantic problems. [01:55:59] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1288680439116075078/image.png?ex=66f610af&is=66f4bf2f&hm=1d17bfd9a6613984695449c5b11d595ba83df413b1df4762a793a21d05e47418& [01:58:12] (as an example) [02:23:48] <@591720130275180545> I am not seeing any problems. Image: https://nex.f2esports.net/upload/cdn/firefox_2024-09-26_02-22-30.png [02:28:36] You need to go to the translated page, not the source page. [02:29:27] Are you using cosmos or Vector by any offchance? [02:29:33] Vector. [02:29:58] Interesting behavior [02:30:31] Sned me the direct link to the page where it happens, I have to take a look. [02:39:50] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Meta/vi [02:39:54] [02:40:22] [02:41:44] Or more accurate: Vector 2022. [02:46:30] [1/3] trying to make a spoiler template with collapsible - it shows up fine on the template page, but renders incorrectly on any other page? [02:46:30] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1288693151846105159/image.png?ex=66f61c86&is=66f4cb06&hm=30e05da1a6700d5da06e3f9c594690dd8fc9706fd90ffb4687f6cc1c43b5013b& [02:46:31] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1288693152106024982/image.png?ex=66f61c86&is=66f4cb06&hm=667d31c562ae44270927e25fd428c6f743ccc412261be1af82984412544bc514& [02:46:55] (if anyone has a working spoiler template like this that I can copy I would be grateful) [02:54:47] I have to complain that the incorrect use of translate unit marks on Privacy Policy had create more translation issues by marking old translation units in different translation unit instead of keep them in the original translation unit. I had to check which translation unit the outdated translation is actually in. [03:04:07] I need to check what is causing the formatting issue exactly and if it can be fixed on the template/skin level [03:09:03] It's simple: just remove the new line inside the translate tag. [03:12:28] Unless it's within the tag itself, normally multi line xlation units should format correctly. Either someone fucked up full time when sending to be xlated or it's a bug. [03:13:40] That's what I said: remove the new line inside the translate parser tags of list items. [03:14:45] [1/5] ``` [03:14:46] [2/5] * [03:14:46] [3/5] [03:14:46] [4/5] IRC:/translate [03:14:46] [5/5] ``` [03:14:53] [1/3] ``` [03:14:53] [2/3] * IRC:/translate [03:14:53] [3/3] ``` [03:15:28] Starting a test MW instance and looking into this [03:17:01] I'd say just prevent marking multiline translation units unless they can be separated by 2 or more blank lines. [03:17:36] [1/10] Good: [03:17:36] [2/10] ``` [03:17:36] [3/10] [03:17:37] [4/10] Paragraph 1 [03:17:37] [5/10] Paragraph 2 [03:17:37] [6/10] == Heading 3 == [03:17:37] [7/10] Paragraph 4 [03:17:38] [8/10] /translate [03:17:38] [9/10] * List item 5/translate [03:17:39] [10/10] ``` [03:19:03] There should be a way to do make multi line units that is not cursed and does not fuck up the final render. Otherwise, I got some code to contribute [03:21:32] Just FYI: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230291#7363979 [03:21:54] The translate parser tag is intended to have different behavior between block and inline syntax. [03:23:35] That's just bad software design, classic WMF [03:23:50] [1/11] Bad: [03:23:51] [2/11] ``` [03:23:51] [3/11] [03:23:51] [4/11] Paragraph 1 (this create unwanted whitespace between sentences, which should not appear in languages using Han script) [03:23:51] [5/11] Paragraph 2 [03:23:52] [6/11] == Heading 3 == (don't make headings and the paragraph in the same tranlation unit) [03:23:52] [7/11] Paragraph 4 (don't make the paragraph and the list in the same tranlation unit) [03:23:52] [8/11] * List item 5 (don't make the whole list in the same tranlation unit, T23029#7363979) [03:23:53] [9/11] * List item 6 [03:23:53] [10/11] /translate [03:23:53] [11/11] ``` [03:25:07] A duck is meant to look and quack like a duck, not look like goose, not scream like a red tailed hawk and still be called a duck. You get my point. [03:25:35] [1/4] Bad: [03:25:35] [2/4] ``` [03:25:36] [3/4] Lego message:/translate Foo [03:25:36] [4/4] ```(this create unwanted whitespace between the colon and the concatenated part, which should not appear in languages using Han script). [03:30:06] Hey there! [03:32:35] I get how the black box works already. I am intending to re-write the code that handles this part so it works in less fucked up way and commit that in. [03:34:08] Should have learned php instead of erlang honestly [03:38:23] Looking to start a shared SF universe wiki (think SCP) and am thinking about using this platform, but I heard it deletes wiki if you're inactive for a certain time, is that true? [03:39:09] There is a [[Dormancy Policy]] on Miraheze, but it is pretty generous [03:39:09] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Dormancy_Policy [03:42:42] Miraheze is a non-profit organisation, and all the infrastructure is paid for by donations, and people who work on it do so on their own time, so there is a policy that is meant to drop inactive projects and free resources for other projects. Before a wiki is nuked, the 'crats will get many warnings, per policy. [03:55:22] Miraheze+ when? [03:55:43] Homie, we got Miraheze Gold already [03:56:00] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1288710643041570920/MirahezePremium.png?ex=66f62cd0&is=66f4db50&hm=35ee31b503aa97e0ad03df2d2f6b06da66540765bedd78284bd4cfa27c51cb27& [04:04:38] Miraheze: now with financial stability [04:07:45] premium offerings rfc 2 [04:28:44] Miraheze: now with a full time paid technology team [04:29:13] my wiki request seems to have disappeared [04:40:41] RE: paid tech team, would love if this could someday happen, even if it's just a single contract person to deal with run-the-business issues when they come up [04:41:24] But still, worth reflecting that we've gone from fundraisers every 3-6 months, to almost shutting down, to now looking at high-yield accounts to take some of the burden of growth off of our donors. [04:41:36] Baby steps, but still big steps! [05:04:20] legit thought this was the wikimedia community - sorry about that. sleep deprivation and a dry eye don’t mix well at all [05:04:54] but hi all. [05:06:40] Hey, hello anyway! [05:49:40] d0nam0: this place has a lot of meta-wikimedians in here [06:09:58] you can't find it in request queue? [06:15:13] Pen Database? [07:11:01] Writing instrument wiki? Huh? [10:33:51] Is this for real? [10:36:48] joke [10:39:46] [1/2] How can you prevent specific pages from being created? E.g. Template:Example [10:39:47] [2/2] If the creation of said page is disabled, does that also prevent imports from creating the page? [10:59:03] [1/2] go to a non existent page and protect it to admin level [10:59:04] [2/2] I suppose it prevents import but I haven't tried [10:59:23] there's also [[Extension:TitleBlacklist]] but I haven't used that [10:59:23] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Extension:TitleBlacklist [10:59:25]

[10:59:47] hmm discord won't load unless I run vpn ....... [11:00:13] Is Russia starting to ban Discord? [11:00:38] [1/2] no idea [11:00:38] [2/2] but there were talks that they might [11:01:20] damnit, [[mw:Extension:TitleBlacklist]] [11:01:20] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TitleBlacklist [11:01:20]

[11:17:15] I'll check them out, thanks [12:37:41] I made a Phorge ticket to request an import, the ticket was changed to resolved but I don't see any changes on my wiki. Could their upload have failed? Or does the resolved just mean now it's in the right hands and it could be a little while before the process is complete? [12:40:25] it may be slow and ongoing as another possibility [12:40:34] or what you said on the second part yeah [12:40:47] how much was it [12:41:01] Okay, that's what I kind of thought and I'm in no rush, but just didn't know if I needed to notify them with another ticket [12:41:09] about 25,000 pages [12:42:03] Was updated yesterday morning, thought maybe and overnight refresh was needed but I have wait a week or so and see if it populates. [12:42:31] yeah, I would probably give it to tomorrow and leave a note on the original ticket for what's up if you're seeing nothing till then [12:43:16] Perfect, thanks! [12:43:53] best of luck [12:58:25] yeah [13:04:49] oh my god i hate case sensitivity [13:11:31] meanwhile we have https://meow.social/@odoben/113194274039041054 [13:12:18] Pfffft [13:12:27] oh hey pixl [13:12:33] unrelated, but how do you feel about lua? [13:13:09] About how I feel about New York City [13:13:11] But worse [13:13:19] okay cool [13:13:33] i made a special page entirely with lua, and ngl building html elements is kinda intuitive? [13:14:15] I can still see it [13:15:04] Absolutely horrifying [13:15:08] Show me immediately [13:15:22] as in the source code or the page itself [13:16:04] https://files.catbox.moe/i62n1r.png [13:16:20] if you entered a link to a page that actually exists on wiki, it'll redirect you there [13:18:40] here it is with an error: https://files.catbox.moe/vefa2i.png [13:20:17] Accurate name [13:20:22] yep! [13:20:25] i'm proud of that one [13:20:55] i thought of SpecialScribunto, but that just makes it sound like a special page for evaluating modules (kinda like ExpandTemplates) [13:21:50] if you wanna blame someone for this, then i direct it to RhinosF1 for not letting me add very specialised special pages (/lh) [13:22:21] i think i spent like three days making the extension that powers this now... [13:22:50] You can blame me for most stuff the [13:22:51] Tbh [13:23:13] I'm quite happy to be blamed for stuff [13:23:22] you're now getting a stupidly modular system for adding special pages with zero hoster intervention xD [13:23:35] its config is entirely stored on-wiki [13:23:46] Cool [13:23:57] i actually haven't tested clobbering core special pages [13:25:20] also, i spent like the entirety of today writing like two test files [13:25:24] out of like four [13:26:16] i spent like two hours trying to figure out why the localisation cache isn't being updated, but then i noticed that there's a cache for the localisation cache and a cache for the aliases fetched from the cache [13:26:47] What is your wiki about? [13:29:10] It is for a private server for Final Fantasy XI called Eden [13:30:21] Our current one is out on Fandom, but have been wanting to try elsewhere for a while and the beaus there have long since stopped playing [13:31:28] Wow [13:31:37] yeah... [13:31:53] I fear no man. But that women. She scares me [13:32:02] btw, jesus christ mediawiki tests are undocumented [13:32:53] hehe <3 [13:34:10] That’s half joking wiki man métagall shall forever hold my respect and fear [13:34:24] ? [13:35:14] Not a miraheze user [13:35:18] My wiki lead on FANDOM [13:35:40] i'm uh, confused? [13:35:50] I’m referring to my joke [13:35:57] oh okay i finally parsed that sentence properly [13:35:57] > I fear no man. But that women. She scares me [13:36:40] First part is a joke squared because there is a wiki man who does scare me [13:36:57] Parsoid? [13:37:02] Is that you? [13:37:26] regex backtracking :D [13:39:06] btw, not having regex in lua certainly made things interesting [13:39:45] instead of me writing two mega regexes that gets the id from a devientart url, instead it's implemented as a list of url transforms utilising basic patterns [15:00:53] I have a wiki that I've recently migrated from Fandom; despite enabling the relevant extensions for Fandom-specific markup to work, that and custom styling does not work: https://lostepisodecreepypasta.miraheze.org/wiki/Lost_Episode_Creepypasta_Wiki [15:02:46] Null edit [15:14:40] The issue has been resolved - thank you [15:40:24] curious if anyone who can play with bridges is on irc at the moment [15:40:42] I guess the way to do this is I dust off whatever I did with irc and lurk there, but not really there yet [15:42:47] Golden gate bridge? Wouldn't recommend playing with that [15:45:38] as long as it's all fun and games [15:47:35] yo could anyone help with my restarted wiki [15:54:50] depends [15:55:14] this server is good for specific questions about wiki operation, it's not a great spot to generally seek editors to build up the project beyond that [15:58:21] no like [15:58:28] i literally cannot access it [15:58:43] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1288892520335675466/image.png?ex=66f6d633&is=66f584b3&hm=fd4cd34790690c40111e21cdf12073bdd94a375404fe2366eafe651bdf682fce& [15:59:39] What's the url? and by newly restarted do you mean reset or how? [16:00:12] never said newly restarted, it was restarted a few weeks ago but i hadnt bothered to access it after learning i couldnt [16:00:22] https://themanyworldswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [16:00:39] Oh sorry, I misread that. I'll have a look [16:01:43] ty [16:13:07] fixed [16:24:21] thank you! [16:24:55] No problem! [17:05:06] Do you think Cosmos Skin fits the wiki? https://agesofconflict.miraheze.org/ [17:05:30] I'm experimenting a bit [17:05:38] dm the messy pages for now [17:19:12] Cosmos is a good skin ngl [17:22:30] The wiki wasn't too bad when it used Citizen either, but I think with the Cosmos skin and this theme, it looks better [17:22:37] yeah thanks [17:22:53] although it dose feel a bit off, probs just bad design of the wiki generally [17:24:16] Anytime [17:25:48] if it's not asking for too much is there any suggestions for the wiki design you might have? [17:26:01] excluding the pages, I'm going for design before content first [17:26:29] [1/2] I'm not sold by the contrast [17:26:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1288914604881084508/image.png?ex=66f6eac4&is=66f59944&hm=5960e9b4dc261b77659985cad119602f106eb8e643b720ce52a14529bbe0e818& [17:28:05] it seems built around the dark theme but the light theme is the visiting default [17:28:16]