[00:09:59] Is you mediawiki language different from english? [00:11:15] Its English [00:52:18] What are the IRC rules [00:53:03] I'm guessing no rickrolling [00:57:01] as in general irc etiquette- and you disconnected [01:16:30] [1/4] @groupnebula563_0765 [01:16:30] [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1291207217600532522/image.png?ex=66ff41ee&is=66fdf06e&hm=dfab4be19e6ce0b7839b708629ce7c5f4d1379b443e8b56e0609db141b0e06dc& [01:16:31] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1291207217894129696/image.png?ex=66ff41ee&is=66fdf06e&hm=7e2f43c97da86fb332e105d5428d0351d74d06bad413ac6cdd520e94ae0d7fb8& [01:16:31] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1291207218271748149/image.png?ex=66ff41ee&is=66fdf06e&hm=64383270276a57b63dec5b739d09ae06358517235f1af3ae2fdcffe4a9527f03& [01:16:40] i tried my best to "copy" the wikipedia infobox [01:17:23] the eventdate* makes me wanna die [01:18:01] wont disagree with the eclair [01:18:31] suicidal or not, i tried my best [01:18:33] then again, the alternative is using lua [01:18:36] lmao fair enough [01:18:44] i dont know lua coding [01:18:50] so the option is wanting to die [01:18:52] yeah, understandable ^^; [01:18:56] imagine using lua to build portable infoboxes [01:19:00] or being tossed into the eternal abyss of nothing [01:19:13] if i knew lua, i wouldnt be asking these questions and i could import wikipedia stuff and know what to do [01:19:19] but guess what, i dont so [01:19:21] sucks to suck [01:19:27] yeah sorry [01:19:51] how much lua would i need to know [01:19:53] hypothetically [01:20:00] to be able to import from wikipedia [01:20:11] its not how much lua [01:20:12] its [01:20:15] for resolving errors, i guess a snse of being able to read code? [01:20:18] how much do you hate yourself [01:20:25] depends on the day [01:20:38] has the wikipedia essay been linked yet [01:20:40] or is it too late [01:20:45] i can read code fairly well [01:20:50] basically figure out what line is failing, and why [01:20:55] i read it, it's no use [01:21:02] too late then, so be it [01:21:10] i have no idea what the hell to do about it [01:21:15] all i got from it is [01:21:29] "you know lua, cool, do what you gotta do. if not, oopsy daisy you suck" [01:22:12] it's basically problem solving [01:22:32] https://files.catbox.moe/mqe9pc.png [01:22:58] if stuff is already imported it's ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ unless the wiki was otherwise fresh [01:23:17] there's a small handful of people who can wrangle it but the big one I don't think is active anymore [01:23:36] i managed to unwrangle importing wikipedia templates lol [01:23:40] I'm not sure who the best contact would be now for navigating it short of learning the long way [01:23:50] is that so [01:23:51] I guess clair is the new ugo on that [01:24:05] basically stamp through the errors, figure out how to import 200 pages without steward intervention, and swear to yourself as you ask why Template:Uses TemplateStyles has to load external data [01:24:37] great i dont know how to do any of that [01:24:41] ugo was basically the only one I know about who imported wikipedia template stuff on purpose, understood what was going on and was able to improve on that [01:24:51] oh hey, i imported wikipedia on purpose xD [01:24:52] and used that stuff to its full advantage [01:25:07] if you do all that you meet the ugo bar [01:25:29] i only used stuff like the string manipulation functions though [01:25:35] improving upon that? uhh nah [01:25:42] he went a little beyond [01:26:05] ok so like [01:26:10] what do i do about this [01:26:11] I don't know if penarc is particularly good at that stuff but I know he does odd troubleshooting [01:26:22] well I'm trying to think who might be able to work on it directly [01:26:26] you can keep it as is :p [01:26:28] just a tiny nitpick [01:26:44] closest i got to absolute VICTORY was some guy doing an absolute w move and making the infobox work [01:26:45] just [01:26:47] because all I got is back up what you got and reset the thing, or just import as much as you can to plug all the holes and hope it stays working [01:27:02] and get random people who kinda get it to patch other holes like you said [01:27:03] i didnt know how to make it look like wikipedia's [01:27:16] > just import as much as you can to plug all the holes [01:27:18] GOD, all the importing [01:27:35] if scratch isn't an option then dig in is what you've got I guess [01:27:36] i had to write my own mediawiki backup chunker to import pages in 50 page chunks [01:28:05] question [01:28:09] how do i plug said holes [01:28:18] i assume holes being unimported pages [01:28:23] oh [01:28:25] really? [01:28:28] that's it? [01:28:34] and perhaps like two errors? [01:28:40] those errors [01:28:43] how do i fixy fix [01:28:51] because apparently some wikipedia modules have to load external data- i'm still not over that [01:28:51] cuz i dont understand lua [01:29:02] they're basically configuration issues with an extension [01:29:10] right [01:29:12] yknow what [01:29:24] how about this ms eclair shmeclair [01:29:35] new last name dropped [01:29:36] ill import some stuff from wiki on my wiki [01:29:43] 🔥 [01:29:45] anyways [01:29:55] ill import stuff from wikipedia onto my wiki [01:30:06] fix any errors that can be fixed by importing other pages [01:30:12] then if anything remains, ill go to you [01:30:14] kk [01:30:18] awesome [01:30:50] for now im gonna rest bc my brain hurts from looking at the relentless beast that is the mediawiki logo [01:30:52] here's the fix for the error i faced btw: https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12116 [01:31:35] tempted to login to kde identity to change my "full name" to Eclair Shmeclair [01:32:15] crazy that a random guy does that [01:32:20] im just a guy [01:53:35] Howdy everyone. Every time I create and then edit an article, I have to purge the main page it is on so it will look like it exists. This is the case on multiple devices and multiple Miraheze sites I've edited. Should I reset my account settings or something? I tried clearing the cache but that hasn't worked/ [01:58:37] oof that's embarrassing 🫠 [01:59:21] two o ya [01:59:26] gameshowfan2001: when checking the pages, were you logged out or in? [01:59:52] Logged in. [02:00:12] that's... weird [02:00:58] i have no clue [02:03:08] I can send a video demonstration of what happens if need be [02:03:16] sure [02:03:20] that'd be very helpful [02:07:29] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1291220047234203702/2024-10-02_21-06-03.mkv?ex=66ff4de0&is=66fdfc60&hm=38c02a2afeb2db457158da3cb1aa8156f746094a07511cebdf2b228d0b0d96b0& [02:09:31] ohh that's what you mean [02:09:35] yeah, that's intended, it takes some time [02:10:56] how much time idk, but it's not instant [02:11:11] I see. I’ve only had this happen for about a week now so I’m guessing it’s new? [02:11:14] * (unless if the page containing the old link is not cached) [02:13:38] depends on how fast things are being chewed the job queue i guess? [02:20:13] Does anyone else have issues with mobile view on desktop not being accurate to actual mobile view? I'm trying to edit my mobile view css (MediaWiki:Mobile.css) but stuff just doesn't work on actual mobile devices where it does on mobile view [02:20:38] I'm using monobook for both mobile and desktop skins if that helps [02:20:55] that sounds horrible to debug [02:20:58] wiki? [02:21:19] https://ftlmultiverse.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [02:22:08] Some stuff is still broken on mobile view desktop because I haven't adapted it [02:23:45] not if your CosmicAlpha [02:23:53] which message [02:24:01] > that sounds horrible to debug [02:25:01] https://files.catbox.moe/ei8q0k.png [02:25:08] look at the difference between my laptop and my phone [02:25:29] Yes that's the problem [02:28:19] I can't fix the issues on mobile because the desktop mobile view isn't working the same as actual mobile [02:29:17] alright, found the issue [02:29:28] laptop is loading common.css, actual phone is not loading that [02:29:35] as to why... i dunno [02:30:21] Urg [02:30:55] guess i'll get mobilefrontend running on my test server [02:31:11] iirc my mobile.css is just copy and pasted monobook.css but I can try putting common.css in there too [02:32:03] Is the actual phone not loading stuff on mobile.css because stuff on there just straight up isn't working [02:32:29] oh nope... [02:32:59] wait no, i opened the url on my laptop in the wrong container (librewolf bug??) [02:33:03] Like turning headers white [02:33:18] now in the proper container, it doesn't load common.css too [02:34:10] So is it just loading monobook.css for the mobile view [02:34:25] On an actual phone I mean [02:34:48] yes [02:34:57] and not on my laptop either... [02:35:38] I guess I could try using a mobile skin other than monobook but that's the only one I like lol [02:41:16] oh wait [02:41:22] does mobilefrontend load mobile css through javascript? [02:43:36] hmm... [02:44:10] i guess... not? but it did the last time i tried... [02:44:33] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend#CSS_styling [02:44:36] does it not exist anymore? [02:45:15] hey, gonna relay something from one of them forum channels [02:45:44] It doesn't use mobile.css anymore in the extension? [02:45:50] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1291229698101084160/IMG_5293.png?ex=66ff56dd&is=66fe055d&hm=9a9faff24a6e5b68f06bdcd72f63d627c75780ef72a7c5a42238943f4163ac79& [02:45:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1291229699065905194/IMG_5294.png?ex=66ff56de&is=66fe055e&hm=02870b69c02b976348509575d2ac816cd91cc3043bb79a8c30687e2693c02f7c& [02:46:51] I don't think that's the issue [02:47:19] probably something unrelated [02:47:25] I'm guessing mobilefrontend doesn't use mobile.css anymore so it's just loading monobook.css [02:47:41] no no this is an entirely different issue [02:47:52] what's weird is that it loads common.css on my laptop?? [02:47:59] just putting it in general for IRC people due to lack of bridging [02:48:07] So the only fix is to use a different mobile skin or copy all of common.css to monobook.css [02:48:14] Oh my bad, sorry [02:48:55] this makes no sense T_T [02:50:01] it's loading common.css on my phone for my test server [02:50:40] Weird [02:52:27] it's now bad on both my laptop and phone [02:55:02] okay, it's now bad on desktop [02:55:08] uh, not?? [02:56:23] okay i'm like very confused right now [02:56:28] should i just drop this issue =w= [02:57:45] I mean I would like to have this resolved but I don't know if this issue is my fault or if something is breaking on mobilefrontend or what [02:58:08] i don't know too T_T [02:58:25] it's now broken on desktop too, even without mf [03:01:32] thebasicperson: alright, so what's the issue? the sidebar background not being white when the screen is small enough? [03:01:42] starting back from the beginning in hopes that it makes things clearer (T_T) [03:02:09] No I just want my mobile.css to actually work on mobile [03:02:15] That's like my main thing [03:03:00] oh [03:04:32] i... have no idea [03:04:44] it's probably easier to make it responsive than to make it mobile-dependent [03:12:09] groupnebula563_0765: server-side issue for styles [03:12:13] [229465f88a1191b70e4a89ba] 2024-10-03 03:11:59: Fatal exception of type "Less_Exception_Compiler" [03:15:00] hopefully they're fine with a trans person triaging this issue :p [03:15:54] task: https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12687 [03:21:49] guys, did you click mobile mode switch tho? [03:23:25] which issue? [03:24:17] what you were discussing just now ... [03:25:07] oh, cosmos and hpmawiki? [03:26:49] because Mobile.css works in mobile mode ... [03:27:23] this issue is such a pain T_T [03:27:53] groupnebula563_0765: possibly caused by an invalid $wgCosmosContentBackgroundColor value [03:28:33] but yes, i did use mobile mode [03:28:40] both through clicking the link, and through ?useformat=mobile [05:20:05] BlankEclair - that toc change in phorge should work now? [05:20:17] headertabs? [05:20:35] no, textextract [05:20:44] oh, i think so yeah [05:20:50] I see you claimed the task [05:21:02] thanks [05:21:12] there was an adjacent thing with TOCs in header tabs, so... [05:21:23] got confused, especially when that issue was finally fixed today or yesterday [05:21:33] [1/2] I wonder how I should wait for it working [05:21:33] [2/2] or it's not working ... [05:21:41] 30-60 minutes after the commit [05:21:44] so it's probably not working [05:21:53] (since you're asking) [05:24:01] cus, I purged example page, WikiSEO on page info shows ok description, but testing link here it still drags ToC [05:24:17] I wasn't smart enough to check page info yesterday [05:24:21] link? [05:24:32] https://softcell.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Bedsit_Tapes [05:25:08] description seems fine? [05:25:46] on page info - yes [05:25:51] in html too [05:25:55] [1/2] here [05:25:56] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1291269986974830674/IMG_20241003_082527.jpg?ex=66ff7c63&is=66fe2ae3&hm=4036e1530c84a20fdcbb86010cf1c876d36635bbf715142591e27868ad49fdf4& [05:26:18] what about https://softcell.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Bedsit_Tapes?awawa [05:26:28] yeah same shit [05:26:33] oh, odd [05:26:48] lemme check caches then [05:27:07] my first assumption is always cache now lol [05:29:01] checked all the mw* servers, same normal descrption ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [05:29:18] :ThinkingHardMH: [05:33:35] https://files.catbox.moe/j1guda.png; discord, i want docs, not porn [05:37:46] no idea then [07:01:18] hmm [07:01:24] put it in quotes maybe [07:20:04] How do I give text a color AND a color shadow? [07:35:44] CSS [07:36:00] No like for just a paragraph [07:37:05] same thing, but as inline styling [07:38:03] `

Text here./div` [12:00:01] Hi, I was going to donate to Miraheze as a thank you for all the help you guys have been. If I'm just making a one time donation is it better to use the GitHub sponsorship or the Kofi? [12:01:12] github has the least fees for us i believe [12:01:25] iirc github was said to be better [12:01:57] isn't ko-fi tied to paypal? [12:02:06] Alr I'll go the github [12:02:09] Thank you! [12:02:31] no, thank you [12:03:50] [1/2] it's been hours and it still drags ToC 🫠 [12:03:50] [2/2] although, maybe it's only discord? idk where else to test embed [12:08:34] technically you could use facebook :p [12:08:46] > [03/10/2024 22:01] isn't ko-fi tied to paypal? [12:08:55] last time i donated to someone (not miraheze) via ko-fi, it basically used paypal [12:09:25] paypal is getting more and more shady, there's some new type of data harvesting [12:09:59] huge thank you for donating to us, we appreciate every penny [12:10:29] paypal credit's direct debits don't update properly too [12:17:52] yes, I avoid paypal as hard as I can [12:18:05] been meaning to shut off an account there I haven't used in literal years [12:31:13] If you want, feel free to ask us if you want the Donator role. :) [12:31:14]