[00:19:32] oh boy [00:19:44] Are servers stroking again [00:21:49] I feel like you should be able to search WikiDiscover [01:04:53] that seems a bit pointless because you'd have to know what the wiki was called you're searching for? [01:05:01] in that case just search google? [01:22:09] Search is actually a pretty frequently-requested feature for WikiDiscover, I can see the use case, esp. when trying to find something you're pretty sure exists already but don't know the exact name. [01:22:23] Right now search results unfortunately still get buried under the legacy of reception wiki SEO [01:23:28] [1/2] This works as an imperfect proxy, FYI: [01:23:29] [2/2] https://wikistats.wmcloud.org/display.php?t=mh [01:24:17] Very handy for when I just need to find something where I remember part of the subdomain [01:29:18] [1/2] like this? [01:29:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1292297600854396949/image0.jpg?ex=6703396d&is=6701e7ed&hm=9aae04496308efdc07e9d6e2434c310d34e3a5153d28fadafa2ee30187277867& [01:39:13] yes [01:44:56] it still has pages with ignored display titles [01:46:52] [1/2] give them a cache purge or small edit [01:46:53] [2/2] (it's 4am I'm going to sleep again) [01:47:36] [1/2] ah it works now [01:47:36] [2/2] thank u ! [04:09:20] is there an alternative to evelution [04:34:22] Many! If you're looking for something Fandom-adjacent in layout minus ads, Cosmos is closest [04:35:32] [1/2] quick question even when tables are classed as wikitables, the headers dont have the grey header? or how can i customise them (sitewide) so theres a different colour under the header? 🙏 also i'm using the Cosmos skin [04:35:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1292344469257195572/image.png?ex=67036514&is=67021394&hm=cae3b725ed2d79e36a6472902ae89e42e0366c9bc76581bafc3fe82b50fa26b0& [04:36:27] can u provide a link to ur wiki pls? [04:37:22] https://hpma.miraheze.org but its private [04:38:57] sorry to ask again but is anyone else having major loading issues? phightingwiki si taking a really abnormally long time to load [04:39:04] has been going on for some hours now [04:41:20] [1/2] how do i change the color of this to an image [04:41:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1292345927977140225/image0.jpg?ex=6703666f&is=670214ef&hm=88402bfc86546e1ee9bdc501c9dd7b60a8568d1c5537bfe159dd00b18db7dda6& [04:42:28] seems fairly normal to me [04:43:18] does or load slowly for you? [04:43:26] idk fi its the custom domain again [04:43:50] nope [04:43:51] the .miraheze.org url is faster but still pretty slow [04:43:53] whattt [04:44:12] took like 1-2 seconds to load [04:44:33] its taking like 5-10+ seconds for me what on earth [04:44:39] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [04:44:39] but where I live, we don't even have the fastest internet in the world [04:45:02] i know in the past miraheze had issues with my location (uk) [05:02:30] [1/5] Does anyone know why MediaWiki puts interlanguage links at the bottom of the main page even though these links are at the top of every other page? Link to the wiki here: https://strinova.org/wiki/Main_Page [05:02:30] [2/5] The same can be observed in the main page of the English Wikipedia and the Japanese Wikipedia (curiously, they also don't have a place for the title, so the interlanguage links won't fit). The French Wikipedia does have interlanguage links at the top of their main page, though. [05:02:31] [3/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1292351254105690166/image.png?ex=67036b65&is=670219e5&hm=7e5bb8bb9f82a1ec7f753826b74cb6636acd5f8483090b38f78c49077e43755a& [05:02:31] [4/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1292351254701277314/image.png?ex=67036b65&is=670219e5&hm=d6b10db174de70e3a8a49f753a939b66d39ef216052c5fb88c3ebabc79e41576& [05:02:31] [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1292351255234216057/image.png?ex=67036b65&is=670219e5&hm=edeb242bbe19610647f77e8055a7f53fdd5263648b1d42c1658d3ee006ea7951& [05:11:17] [1/2] Hey guys, so I have a friend who wants to (re-)make a wiki for the game Chants of Sennaar, but the URL for the wiki is already taken: https://chantsofsennaar.miraheze.org , so they had to resort to make it under a different URL. [05:11:17] [2/2] Since the URL for the original wiki was taken, they decided to have it under another URL. However, the original wiki is closed and only has a couple of pages, including the main page, so would it be okay if they use the URL of the original wiki for their new wiki? [05:22:02] We generally don't scrap existing wikis that are still within dormancy policy, the simpler path to go would be through https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Requests_for_reopening_wikis, indicating they wish to adopt the original wiki. [05:23:22] Given the wiki was essentially abandoned shortly after creation, they would be able to be appointed with all relevant local administrative rights as part of that adoption process. [05:24:16] Alright, thanks [05:28:13] hey! i'm the person in question who wants to start the wiki, and i've already sent a request, is it possible to remove it from the queue? the url is chantsofsennaarcommunitywiki.miraheze.org [05:31:43] Can do, one sec [05:36:31] [1/3] how do i make this line up [05:36:31] [2/3] im using timeless skin [05:36:31] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1292359815414284338/image0.jpg?ex=6703735e&is=670221de&hm=939659af5d7232d4a6313de429875617bf0ce6f7cb1f67e971820aea0b84bd8f& [05:38:05] snowstacked: wiki? [05:38:16] https://utg.miraheze.org [05:40:36] snowstacked: #p-managewiki-sidebar-header { padding-left: 0; } [05:42:36] thank u [05:43:02] yw [06:16:03] is it possible to use like two skins together? like i want to use the citizen skin's sidebar and nav tools and i want to use timeless's content container [06:17:27] no [06:17:54] you might try to make some heavy modification to make one or another the way you want [06:18:11] I guess it's easier to modify Citizen's container [06:18:58] Timeless can be made to look similar to Vector, with all sidebars on the left [06:19:25] I don't use Citizen so I haven't poked it [06:19:49] [1/2] i want to make the citizen skin look like this with the rounded corner and borders [06:19:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1292370714833322085/image0.jpg?ex=67037d85&is=67022c05&hm=065a18ef2b8b4687c06e4753bbed19b8fadc433ba0c8588848fc5c09bd24b181& [06:27:57] <_______1414> hey!! [06:29:11] hi shark [06:29:36] i tried... something: https://files.catbox.moe/hjvdt4.png [06:29:41] citizen is harder to modify than i expected [06:31:04] how would i do that in my wiki [06:33:13] .citizen-body-container { --width-layout: 720px; } [06:33:15] .citizen-body { border: 2px solid black; border-radius: 10px; padding: 10px; } [06:33:23] i feel like you could make it a bit better if you worked harder on it though [06:38:44] unless if you like it already :p [06:43:15] i love it [06:44:45] oh neat ^_^ [06:44:51] you probably want it to adapt to dark mode then [06:47:43] oh neat, just border: 2px solid makes it auto-adapt [06:48:06] ooh [06:48:07] okay [07:44:04] [1/8] ``` [07:44:04] [2/8] .citizen-body { backdrop-filter: blur(30px); [07:44:05] [3/8] -webkit-backdrop-filter: blur(30px); [07:44:05] [4/8] border-radius: 2.5rem; [07:44:05] [5/8] border: 4px solid; [07:44:05] [6/8] padding: 10px 20px; } [07:44:06] [7/8] ``` [07:44:06] [8/8] can i make it so that this only happens for dark mode and make the background white for light mode [08:42:24] [1/2] so I’ve got uh this [08:42:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1292406596005003314/IMG_5317.png?ex=67039ef0&is=67024d70&hm=552d25cec6f1cfb9ad1b9ff72481125f761e24826dd808ceec592a8fec907c90& [08:42:41] how would I go about adding centered text underneath each image [08:53:06] my wiki uses CirrusSearch and for a few days now, regardless of what I search, nothing comes up [08:53:26] and I know it used to work a bit ago so I'm wondering why it's happening and if there's a way to fix it/disable CS [08:54:02] [1/2] even searching a page title that exists will say no results but also say that there is an existing page [08:54:02] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1292409521725116539/BOK45qL.png?ex=6703a1a9&is=67025029&hm=4a521ecbc04be3620774a1358aff2ef85ca9e64c4c88b114cad1e6284ded1725& [08:54:55] https://removededm.com/ here's the wiki's url [09:14:46] Hey, just wanted to contribute and say our wiki also uses CS but we haven’t been facing this issue [09:14:55] It could be something else on your wiki? [09:16:49] I haven't changed anything recently that would have altered searching though [09:21:51] princessellierose: you have titlekey enabled [09:25:15] huh didn't realize that was even enabled [09:25:21] disabling it did fix it [09:38:56] Alright what happened lol [09:39:15] i wonder if i killed prod by asking UO to update rottenlinks [09:39:21] i did test on a local install, it worked [09:39:34] Oh wait we're back [09:39:40] I had an internal MediaWiki error [09:39:43] same here [09:40:18] Oh so that was a farm wide problem [09:40:32] Yeah sorry my bad should be fixdd [09:40:48] achievement unlocked: indirectly kill production [09:40:53] I quickly fixed it but we were down for a ohr 5 seconds [09:41:20] I thought adding something to a category to a wiki killed it and I was like wtf did I do [09:41:20] I guess I just happened to pop in at the exact wrong time ahaha [09:41:43] lol nope [09:41:49] I do have a terrible record of innocuous things creating that error message although it's usually in managewiki that it happens [09:43:34] lol yeah I forgot new magic word bring down prod until i18n is rebuilt and I remembered just as my deploy was finishing so I quickly fixed. Sorry for that all. [09:44:16] happy to report that previews including ToC as text got fixed, guess it was cahce after all [09:44:25] lol [09:44:30] dunno whose fault it is though [09:45:00] It was my fault as I was deploying I should have remembered that lol [09:45:17] legroom was talking about description caching [09:45:37] oh im confused [09:45:44] I should sleep again at 4AM lol [09:45:49] there are two types of people: [09:45:52] GO SLEEP NOW [09:45:53] > [06/10/2024 20:40] achievement unlocked: indirectly kill production [09:46:00] > [06/10/2024 20:45] It was my fault as I was deploying I should have remembered that lol [09:46:46] oh I temporarily broke all non english i18n also but that is fixed now as well [09:46:58] I broke it to bring us back up. [09:47:16] within seconds instead of 5-7 minutes [09:54:29] some magic word ei [09:56:19] I'm glad we are love again [09:57:48] Oh I see [09:58:10] BlankEclair: magic words need i18n rebuild ye [09:58:39] We should be able to detect which changes require i18n rebuild [09:58:41] I think [09:59:17] I'm surprised that canary checks didn't abort though [09:59:21] If it took everything down [09:59:30] The deploy should have aborted [09:59:36] BlankEclair: ^ [10:11:00] [1/8] ``` [10:11:00] [2/8] .citizen-body { backdrop-filter: blur(30px); [10:11:01] [3/8] -webkit-backdrop-filter: blur(30px); [10:11:01] [4/8] border-radius: 2.5rem; [10:11:01] [5/8] border: 4px solid; [10:11:01] [6/8] padding: 10px 20px; } [10:11:02] [7/8] ``` [10:11:02] [8/8] can i make it so that this only happens for dark mode and make the background white for light mode [10:11:34] @CSS/JS Support Volunteers [10:14:34] [1/3] add `.skin-citizen-dark` in front [10:14:35] [2/3] ```.skin-citizen-dark .citizen-body { backdrop-filter: blur(30px); [10:14:35] [3/3] ...``` [10:19:47] > [06/10/2024 20:59] I'm surprised that canary checks didn't abort though [10:19:51] what are they? [10:21:24] > [06/10/2024 21:14] [1/3] add `.skin-citizen-dark` in front [10:21:30] canyada: that's actually a deprecated class btw [10:21:34] there's a new one in town [10:21:54] [1/2] huh is it [10:21:54] [2/2] i just went to a citizen skin to get it [10:22:09] skin-theme-clientpref-{os,light,dark} [10:22:19] oops... [10:22:28] skin-theme-clientpref-{os,day,night} [10:22:46] yeah it is, but it's not hard-deprecated [10:23:02] dunno how we knew about that actually--one of our wiki editors just realized that it was somehow [10:40:32] BlankEclair: checks for a 200 and a specific string on some api call [10:40:36] I think [10:40:41] A long time since I checked [10:40:46] when does it do it? [10:40:52] like, during deployment? [10:41:11] BlankEclair: ye [10:41:15] huh okay [10:45:05] wait so do i just remove "night" [10:45:38] eh? [10:47:50] do i just do it like skin-theme-clientpref-{os,night} to make it dark mode only or something [10:50:41] nah, .skin-theme-clientpref-night [10:50:48] and you'll need to do a longer form for auto but dark [11:17:23] is it possible to make it so that only logged in users can edit the wiki [11:19:19] yes, remove edit rights from the * group [11:21:39] where [11:23:35] Special:ManageWiki/permissions [11:23:37] it might be called (all) [11:36:11] or everyone [11:42:31] [1/2] can i add buttons here or is it just impossible [11:42:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1292451922644701367/image0.jpg?ex=6703c926&is=670277a6&hm=37f8b87efa5e10703d5766d3aceb37a02930350f31ab9179dde24a85b00a6826& [11:42:34] thank u ! [11:49:49] maybe with hooks or javascript [11:49:53] busy atm [12:02:40] what is it [12:02:47] ? [12:03:18] > the longer form for auto but dark [12:05:38] @media (prefers-color-scheme: dark) { html.skin-theme-clientpref-os ... { ... } } [12:51:02] [1/3] why does it become like this [12:51:02] [2/3] [12:51:02] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1292469164283400324/image0.jpg?ex=6703d935&is=670287b5&hm=569022c85d682881539126495c9bcc190ff2c223baf63c648cefa5e79750f525& [12:51:27] [1/2] so [12:51:27] [2/2] [12:55:00] woo [12:57:38] snowstacked: https://utg.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Citizen.css#L-16 [13:02:49] oh i fixed it [13:26:10] Neat CSS [13:36:05] how was the frosted effect done? [14:23:49] [1/4] ```css [14:23:49] [2/4] backdrop-filter: blur(30px); [14:23:49] [3/4] -webkit-backdrop-filter: blur(30px); [14:23:50] [4/4] ``` [14:38:59] is there something to make things only visible on desktop/mobile? [14:39:54] I think there may be an extension for that but I don’t precisely recall [14:40:35] [1/2] is it this perhaps? [14:40:36] [2/2] https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileDetect [14:40:44] (im new to extensions) [14:41:07] Looks like it, check if it’s in Special:ManageWiki/extensions [14:41:12] None of us do:) [15:24:04] Hello [15:24:06] Can I request local permissions on a wiki if an active bureaucrat has been inactive for 9 months? [15:26:44] [[Local election]] [15:26:44] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Local_election [15:26:45]

[15:45:59] [1/2] there's supposed to be an extension w/ mobile tag but it doesn't seem to work fully on Miraheze [15:45:59] [2/2] I just go w/ `@media` queries in CSS [15:56:12] But what if there is no active community? [15:56:58] [1/2] still make election, you don't know what will happen [15:56:58] [2/2] lack of votes means you won election tho [15:58:50] [1/2] How about this: _On a wiki with an extremely small or no community, a user may be temporarily appointed Administrator or Bureaucrat by a Steward, provided that they demonstrate a need and clearly indicate their intentions. An appointment in this context is not considered a replacement for an election; the Administrator or Bureaucrat is appoin [15:58:50] [2/2] ted as a caretaker._ [15:59:31] What’s the wiki [16:01:44] Googlepedia, there are even edits like _Created page to prevent wiki closing_ [16:03:29]