[00:36:53] You can upload images under the same name on your own wiki. This overwrites the images of Commons Wikimedia [00:36:53] if anyone is available to help me out with this [00:37:21] They normally would make use of Inkscape [00:38:35] whuh [00:38:38] how do i do thy [00:38:55] [1/2] They use the blanc canvas of Commons Wikimedia Globe and edit it in Inkscape. [00:38:56] [2/2] You could ask user Cqistgaard how he does that [00:39:20] (He's on commons.miraheze.org) [00:40:14] Example he made: https://commons.miraheze.org/wiki/File:2028,_Dems_Primary.svg [00:40:20] wheres the link to the globe? [00:44:31] https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=blank+globe+svg&title=Special:MediaSearch&go=Go&type=image [00:44:44] Here are a load of globe images for your choosing [00:45:02] Just pick one that you can edit [00:45:25] # index.php [00:47:15] Example: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Blankmap-ao-090N-north_pole.png [00:48:46] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Blank_maps_of_the_world_with_orthographic_projection Perhaps this is easier [00:49:32] 💤 Off to 🛏️ [00:49:42] night night [01:15:55] [1/2] I entered the correct database name though [01:15:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1293019010337734757/PXL_20241008_011405980.jpg?ex=6705d94b&is=670487cb&hm=17faccc6d65a2ac01fefea61f2537127e7595169afb9d030fac7bafda4f2ceda& [01:17:44] I entered the correct database name though. Can I re-request the domain form again? [01:17:51] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1293019494658216057/PXL_20241008_011405980.jpg?ex=6705d9be&is=6704883e&hm=72131ee6d32e05e92573368413065fe9556d6c5f0102ec99629e3e68adb73fc6& [01:27:12] If you already had a ticket open on issue-tracker to get the custom domain established, please reopen that ticket and discuss further with our tech team there. [01:27:37] aight [01:34:10] hmm I never created a ticket there about it, I requested the form from meta site [01:34:34] For some reason, I also never got a notification that my custom domain was finally established [01:38:22] (According to CosmicAlpha, I should) [01:38:34] (According to CosmicAlpha, I should) [01:39:29] so Ig my domain is still working in progress? [01:49:42] Yeah, still pending [01:51:47] ah ok [02:17:19] If you don't get an email thats a bug or you have them disabled. Of course I can't guarantee you would but you absolutely should. [02:50:36] i didn't have my notifs disabled [02:50:40] but ok [02:52:45] It may still be pending then [02:58:13] doing some updates to [[Migrating]] [02:58:13] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Migrating [02:58:51] should I mention the wiki archive bot in discord for the wikiteam3 section? or at least their own hosted IRC bot [02:59:49] I miss the stamina I had to write articles before [03:00:51] amen [03:01:12] ive started being active wikipedia but still don't write lmao [03:01:39] im splitting between doing peer reviews for did you know and citation digging for a certain page [03:04:00] also im thinking maybe remove wiki discover from Template:Help navigation [03:04:20] if you can fill that spot then go ahead [03:04:52] I added it there because I thought WD was cool and also because my screen was big enough to generate some whitespace at the far right of it [03:05:25] my screen has 3 of the tabs on the second row [03:06:16] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1293046781734813797/image.png?ex=6705f328&is=6704a1a8&hm=ff22751dab3f22d6199812c374859fc77ccdd2ba9aa482e8473cfb4343c5bc76& [03:06:19] skill issue [03:06:24] no [03:06:30] chromebook issue [03:06:39] well not fully accurate [03:06:45] the chromebook is the issue [03:06:53] I love chromebooks [03:07:04] i need a new *personal* laptop [03:07:16] my macbook is in the corner collecting dust because I love my chromebook so much [03:07:20] pray the person who invented the chromebook never meets me [03:07:36] agentisai: can i have it [03:07:40] ill pay shipping [03:07:52] i dont even like mac [03:08:09] me neither [03:19:34] done [03:21:10] im at over 600 meta edits wow [03:22:17] anyways [04:03:08] [1/2] For anyone familiar with the dev template for infoboxes, is there a way to change the width of the labels? [04:03:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1293061092939006012/IMG_9767.png?ex=6706007c&is=6704aefc&hm=b7eae65818c6fa2ca5c670ef03756eedc93ee286268ba22fef3f42e27ecf732e& [04:07:32] Do u have a link to the wiki [04:07:44] Gimme a second [04:08:23] https://urbanshade.org/wiki/User:Mooncloud/Sandbox [04:12:34] [1/3] @mooncloud infoboxes look different to me [04:12:34] [2/3] do u have a link to the specific page u screenshotted? [04:12:35] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1293063465761767537/image.png?ex=670602b2&is=6704b132&hm=eb61f659ded53198ce024bdf7498e0af5657f449ebf3641208e6cb8ff1cca08a& [04:12:45] It’s on my user page [04:12:50] ^ [04:13:11] ah ok [04:15:37] [1/6] u can add this to MediaWiki:Common.css [04:15:37] [2/6] ``` [04:15:38] [3/6] .content-table .infobox th { [04:15:38] [4/6] width: 30%; [04:15:38] [5/6] } [04:15:38] [6/6] ``` [04:16:07] this will make the infobox labels take up 30% of the width of the infobox [04:17:00] Ty! [04:19:39] anytime! [04:22:22] [1/3] hey, how do i fix this issue [04:22:22] [2/3] https://utg.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Map [04:22:23] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1293065931919986710/image0.jpg?ex=670604fe&is=6704b37e&hm=0021cf06593e1e66fe28eb454c7be9ebb82fb48b43c69665b38aa6084dde7396& [07:02:09] Hello - I have a question, If we use our own URL which doesn't contains .miraheze.org instead contains our own domain, then can anyone please confirm that who will update the SSL certificate? [07:06:02] the problem is w/ "access" parameter? [07:07:28] avengers9309: if you go with let's encrypt, it is automatically handled on miraheze's side [07:07:54] if you provide your own tls certificate, then i believe that it'll be up to the wiki bureaucrats to provide new certificates when it's close to expiry [07:08:01] (dunno if there are reminders or not--i hope so though) [07:11:39] i think it might be with the "made_by" parameter [07:12:48] We use Google Trust Services certificates [07:13:16] then it's on your side to provide newly signed certs [07:13:58] huh... looks like the custom domains page has been simplified [07:14:03] MacFan isn't there? [07:14:23] Ok that's fine - it means SSL certificate update is all related to us, not Miraheze [07:14:35] MacFan4000 is away right now [07:14:58] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Custom_domains?diff=prev&oldid=417351 [07:15:14] right, forgot about the cloudflare migration--dunno how this changes things [07:16:50] If it is near to expiry then do we need to send the new certificate to Miraheze support or we need to upload it by ourself? [07:17:07] No this will not be feasible for us [07:17:52] i'm not sure about the non-LE process actually, so i can't answer that ^^; [07:17:55] hopefully someone who knows can [07:19:07] Ok no worries [07:49:58] how do i make it so that for a specific page, the background changes [08:27:45] damn, just when i thought i could use drafts extension turns out it was globally disabled lol [08:35:54] is it possible to make only one parameter in an infobox use the stacked layout while the rest uses the normal table layout? [09:30:33] Can anyone please confirm about my query related to SSL certificate? [09:35:50] time zones man [09:47:50] I think it makes it more confusing, because now there’s no instruction on what to do with ssl [09:48:09] agreed... [09:50:32] Pls fix @ everyone [09:52:11] what old revisions say? [09:52:45] or it's no use at all? [10:10:52] Wiki discovery should be something that needs to be improved, and I am serious about it. [10:11:10] Give me a button that takes a wiki and finds similar wikis. [10:12:36] adding search there would be nice [10:13:28] e.g. if you search "zeroranger", you can get the zeroranger wiki (and probably a fanon wiki or 2 if they exist but I doubt it :pgfacehepithinking:) [10:17:58] Is there a way to add a subtitle below the title in my infobox css? [10:18:01] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1293155433703542925/image.png?ex=67065859&is=670506d9&hm=0aef69637460e6a69eca0ea12c8287187814ad8de6699304aa3740582a74700e& [10:20:08] portable infobox? I'd say header tag or data tag w/o label [10:20:25] under title [10:20:58] it's not a matter CSS [10:21:15] sorry I mean template not css [10:21:17] but i'll try [10:23:30] [1/2] close enough [10:23:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1293156813776355381/image.png?ex=670659a2&is=67050822&hm=75362e4de732fe2577be4330d44327d199abf6e9a6b7d736c833a37298b29474& [10:25:18] [1/2] header tag does work [10:25:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1293157267528749086/image.png?ex=67065a0e&is=6705088e&hm=07f8d658c2067cd8f3ba9c9fa7f099d284ce33c21b8f9ce84c8e2b425df912db& [10:25:40] i'll try finding my own way to center the header but thx [10:25:55] you can center header text w/ `.pi-header { text-align: center; } [10:26:46] at this rate I'm going memorize PI classes lol [11:18:01] Hi [11:18:05] I can confirm that [11:18:08] What's your domain [11:18:50] BlankEclair: GTS is used by CF too [11:19:24] GTS is probably a cf custom host name [11:19:27] I can check that though [11:21:28] i first read GTS and thought of GoToSocial [12:18:09] Hi, Some categories appear in Special:AllPages at the same time in the list of ns-0 (main) and also on ns-14 (category). This is easily fixed or I should write an issue-tracker ticket to look into that? [12:22:52] Probably because a page cant be in 2 different namespaces [12:49:54] Ye [12:49:58] That's a good one [12:57:47] We lost role icons [12:57:48] :( [13:38:21] :(( [13:38:34] Despair [13:38:40] never trust boost levels [13:38:47] unless you have a surplus and then some [13:38:53] @serverlessharej can the board authorize an expense of 999 discord boosts plz [13:38:59] It’s for a good cause [13:38:59] ye [13:39:05] the wikitide discord boost foundation [13:39:15] Wouldn’t be the most useless thing we’ve spent money on [13:39:28] i'm scared to find out [13:41:04] We don't even have quips and you want that. [13:41:19] Eh [13:41:31] We have [[User:BlankEclair/Quips]] [13:41:31] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:BlankEclair/Quips [13:41:32] [13:41:58] (Though our own quips would still be cool) [13:43:30] this one has to take the cake [13:43:30] <.labster> CSS is like violence. If it's not working, use more. [13:43:46] @.labster is a man of many wisdoms [14:05:49] no monies for devs \:( [14:10:05] Tags for WikiDesctover? [14:18:57] [1/2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Adjacent_communities [14:18:58] [2/2] Do you think a altered verson of this could be good on DevWiki? [14:20:08] it would be obscure and rarely used, but not useless [14:21:00] Worldbuilding wikis may like it [14:21:48] potentially [14:21:56] it would be good to have in a clean, easy to import form [14:22:53] I think it may be possable to strip out parts that use Lua [14:23:56] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Adjacent_communities&action=edit the soruce link [14:25:36] I'm sure, and for many uses not baking in lua would be nice [14:27:26] What templates are really needed? [14:28:08] I think you have a basic infobox already though [14:28:53] very basics already exist [14:28:59] the presentation could certainly use some work [14:32:48] [1/2] uh.. somethings wrong with phwiki's desktop theme on mobile? the bg should be all black, has something changed? [14:32:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1293219553186414622/Screenshot_20241008_153153_Chrome.png?ex=67069410&is=67054290&hm=53b2bc50728558ef18bd85d84a9c728b809b2404ee755f4abcbd8f3f0b50a480& [14:32:53] this worked literally just yesterday [14:33:17] Does it need a basic css? [14:40:49] I don't know [14:41:26] zero issue on my end [14:41:28] cache maybe? [14:42:29] huh weird [14:42:37] hopefully its just cache LOL [14:42:51] must be, not seeing unusual mobile behavior either [14:43:13] however there I did get mobilefrontend [14:43:46] Maybe broker don’t like wiki warden /j [14:43:48] Let me try [14:43:58] ah yeah, this is with forced desktop mode [14:44:08] its got all my other css but all of the backgrounds are white fsr [14:44:10] but the text is Also white [14:44:18] @tedkalashnikov I get the same as ya [14:44:22] wtf [14:44:25] for why [14:44:31] i havent changed anything [14:45:08] It’s not just that page [14:45:19] It’s the whole wiki [14:45:34] Maybe a backend change with how css is treated upstream? [14:45:35] logged in? [14:45:48] Yup [14:45:59] a cache purge doesn’t solve anything? [14:46:00] is it like this on actual desktop [14:46:03] im not on my pc rn [14:46:20] Tried [14:46:31] hmm [14:47:03] if css classes have randomly changed ill cry [14:47:33] There was a recent update to extension I think [14:47:38] Not sure if css was included [14:47:41] Hm [14:48:34] @tali64 @raidarr note to us: for the wiki group idea, maybe a task force dedicated to recording changes to CSS classes and maintaining a mass message list on meta wiki to notify admins [14:49:05] I actually really like that [14:49:18] We could roll it out as a trial of the idea [14:49:27] If anyone is interested [14:49:54] a mass message list for css class changes specifically seems a bit much for a niche idea [14:50:02] what kind of change .... [14:50:28] Shit that breaks what would likely be used to customize wikis [14:50:33] i mean if this stuff can render an entire wiki unreadable i think its decently important [14:50:35] I assume you have encountered your share [14:50:46] mostly it's when vector decides to change for no good reason [14:50:49] I mean I’m not sure if it is that [14:50:51] we use timeless [14:50:58] I'm not sure a class change even applies to this case as I wasn't able to reproduce the issue [14:51:07] on desktop css? [14:51:08] Yea [14:51:12] not mobilefrontend ? [14:51:18] can you drop a link, I'm in a bus tho [14:51:22] you use mobilefrontend on mobile by default [14:51:31] thats right [14:51:36] logged in if it's set to timeless the experience may be different, I did not test it [14:51:47] no, i force desktop on my own device [14:51:47] I don't see why they'd differ that much though [14:52:01] mobilefrontend hasnt been styled at all, its vector iirc [14:52:03] forced to desktop mode gave slightly weird behavior but did not reproduce the issue on firefox mobile [14:52:09] i see, okay [14:52:12] mobilefrontend is using minerva [14:52:15] my wikis seem to be okay [14:52:16] mb minerva [14:52:24] hang on ill look at it on pc [14:52:50] as groups go there's probably other fish to fry, we've made zero progress on the various ideas of merit already offered [14:52:50] and none of them uses mfe [14:52:56] https://tenor.com/view/vector-gif-26416642 [14:52:58] sorry im antsy i dont want it to be broken for other users because ill get a million complaints if i cant fix it D: [14:53:06] This popped into my head rent free [14:53:12] No worries [14:53:22] What browser you use [14:53:26] chrome on mobile [14:53:28] tbh disable mfe, if Timeless is default you don't need it lol [14:53:30] personally I have burnt out to the point of active global lethargy for things like groups and proactive new things [14:53:40] i have reasons to keep mfe but its complicated [14:53:53] I have some raidarrwiki essays why that get into it more [14:53:55] but ye [14:55:04] okay it seems fine on actual desktop/pc so ive no clue what happened [14:55:07] hopefully is just a cache issue [14:55:14] oh- no [14:55:50] [1/2] flash warning [14:55:51] [2/2] lolwut it never did this before https://gyazo.com/23966d14209f232f03fe30cfea11a825 [14:56:12] hmmm [14:56:33] how did you set up color change? [14:56:51] not in @media, I hope? [14:56:57] not at all [14:57:11] oh [14:57:12] oh [14:57:28] omg im so sorry im so dumb, i set up a media query for something else and i forgot the second curly bracket LMFAO [14:57:35] so it just grouped every single thing under it under a media query. i hate css [14:57:50] lol happens [14:57:52] thank you guys sorry to be a bother 😭 [14:58:00] don't be sorry lmao [14:59:01] 800 lines of css accidentally nulled because of one curly boi [14:59:16] that be life sometimes [14:59:18] So do we.. [14:59:26] Welcome to programming in general 😉 [14:59:30] bahaha [14:59:36] dont write code/css/whatever when ur sleep deprived [15:00:11] So, don’t code ever [15:00:15] yeah <3 [15:06:36] [1/2] who even is this guy 😭😭 [15:06:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1293228058698059806/image0.jpg?ex=67069bfc&is=67054a7c&hm=3ac3a0442287bd987ddd28fac97b5a5b3ffa21340d299f07a1cbaf4a70829809& [15:07:51] troll with too much time on his hands [15:08:27] hi [15:08:31] pay little heed to the pseudo-technical bs [15:08:33] hello [15:08:35] came here cause i own a wiki [15:08:56] glad i could find miraheze, because fandom was acting stupid with blocking me always, its shit [15:09:19] idk how miraheze works yet :-) [15:11:43] Isnt that fandom ? [15:14:19] Probably not since he posted here. You can make a MH wiki look very similar to a fandom, the difference being, that you are not forced to use that look on MH [15:15:36] hhh [15:15:44] idk how to work with css thats why i didnt know :/ [15:16:03] + extremly new to miraheze [15:16:04] you don't even need CSS that much if you pick Cosmos skin [15:16:09] just saw it while researching and searching and searching [15:16:09] alright [15:16:10] how do i get it [15:16:32] do you see admin sidebar? [15:18:46] hmm [15:18:47] wait [15:18:47] what [15:18:59] im at home [15:18:59] now [15:19:23] i don't see admin sideba [15:19:49] Get what [15:19:59] This type of background [15:21:15] hold on [15:21:17] i think miraheze broke [15:21:44] miraheze broke!! [15:21:44] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1293231861388152934/Capturar.PNG?ex=67069f86&is=67054e06&hm=5c80ada8e43f9e87e2a2a43158cf571f9bffa6b8e478bc39397e64a5633ac2c0& [15:23:05] I think is something momentary. Is not working here [15:23:19] Yea [15:23:22] Yeah I am getting a 500 error as well now [15:23:23] it isnt working [15:23:27] miraheze is down [15:23:50] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1293232395356737546/Capturar.PNG?ex=6706a006&is=67054e86&hm=d3e87f0fbfecae9d3153f36a4cd1813e5e24dba7e553b9366fe330ee803c452a& [15:23:52] yup true critical errors [15:24:04] -# esta pàgina está mierda [15:24:05] Working fine for my wiki [15:24:12] What's happened now? [15:24:58] miraheze is working [15:25:03] not working* [15:25:15] Was gonna say lmao [15:25:25] this happens sometimes, something made servers upset [15:25:35] yeah pretty sure it'll be fine [15:26:00] again thought it was me playing around with skins [15:26:07] While I'm here, unrelated question, does anyone know how to use MassEditRegex or if there's a guide on it somewhere? [15:26:20] Nope, new to mirahez [15:26:52] More emphasis on the latter since I need to keep some sorta notes so I don't forget it months from now [15:26:53] I don't have a good guide for it but a guide about regex in general should do [15:27:07] if the wiki is newer than may 10th (I think it was) replacetext is by far preferable [15:27:15] May 10th 2024? [15:27:17] autowikibot may be easier to get into also [15:27:26] I want a guide on how to use MassEditRegex too. The one on the Special page is not helpful enough [15:27:29] I thought ReplaceText was busted [15:27:29] i only used Miraheze because Fandom was acting stupid on always blocking me randomly out of nowhere for false reasons, something which i couldnt report [15:27:54] I'm mainly just looking for something inbuilt so I don't have to mess with downloading stuff [15:28:14] nothing is running for me so I can't verify, but may 10th 2024 is the cutoff I believe [15:28:21] anything older has compression that will break it [15:28:23] Ah dang [15:28:39] just wondering when was miraheze made [15:28:46] 2015? [15:28:51] oo [15:28:53] [[History of Miraheze]] [15:28:53] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/History_of_Miraheze [15:28:54] [15:28:57] Dang [15:29:04] [[Miraheze history]] [15:29:04] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_history [15:29:05] Miraheze is down. [15:29:05] [15:29:06] i cant click that [15:29:10] No I mistyped [15:29:13] Well that went 500 too 😦 [15:29:19] still 500 [15:29:21] it's down [15:29:22] What [15:29:26] Now I'm wondering how hard it is to install a bot like that for my own wiki [15:29:27] Okay not my typo [15:29:30] What bot [15:29:34] the farm is behaving very very weirdly [15:29:38] Wiki-Bot [15:29:53] Lemme look at the dashboard actually [15:29:58] We are down [15:29:59] hopefully the devs look at my support post; [15:30:08] partially down apparently, some people got in [15:30:16] You can install the bot and configure it in the dashboard to your wiki [15:30:21] I’m in [15:30:24] I linked reception and he was able to get in a little bit ago [15:30:26] pixel too [15:30:27] No need [15:30:32] Tech team is here [15:30:36] Like @rhinosf1 [15:30:41] yes [15:30:43] thats what i ment with devs [15:30:43] xd [15:30:45] For what it's worth I'm still down [15:30:47] some people get 500, I get a literal blank screen [15:30:50] In the future just mention in #tech-ops [15:30:56] Blank here [15:30:58] Not support [15:31:07] So the 500 error only happens in part of users? [15:31:07] We're here, we know [15:31:08] total platform outage should go straight to tech yeah [15:31:28] Ping infra? [15:31:28] the miraheze bot mentions it [15:31:34] ? [15:31:42] Errors? [15:31:43] Infra caused it [15:31:53] [1/2] spawns in idk [15:31:53] [2/2] How do I include myself in a convo [15:31:59] ya did it [15:32:03] hopefully it gets fixed as soon as possible [15:32:34] ah i see the #minor-announcements [15:32:39] as long as someone from tech knows, it will proliferate to the team and then it's a matter of time [15:33:02] hopefully it is fixed as soon i am done with music [15:33:13] alas nobody is paid and these things happen at terrible times for tech availability, so an exact eta or promise of when it can be up is rarely possible [15:33:13] cause i need to have some work with c001wiki [15:33:47] This feels like an inopportune time to be messing with Wiki-Bot [15:33:47] me too, i just submit an edit when it crashed [15:33:53] i was going to look [15:33:54] at something [15:33:56] at discussions [15:33:58] yes, I would stand clear of miraheze for a moment [15:34:02] and i submitted an edit with discussions and it crashed [15:34:06] until someone tech can confirm things are operable [15:34:12] We need a [[WP:STOCKS]] one of these days [15:34:12] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WP:STOCKS [15:34:13] [15:34:15] even if it seems to work for certain people now I would not put faith in it [15:34:18] i will wait until someone pings me [15:34:21] if miraheze is back up [15:34:34] Not the time until it's over please [15:34:35] in that case you should get announcement pings [15:34:37] You can enable the edit recovery feature to save locally in cases like this [15:34:40] To not lose it [15:34:43] Ofc [15:34:58] Oh! well, that was too late! [15:35:04] but don't worry [15:35:09] the edit was very so small [15:35:15] in general I suggest everyone draft things they want to keep outside the platform [15:35:22] working on a big page? back that up locally [15:35:30] small pages are fine [15:35:31] if it's a minor edit then so be it of course [15:36:28] im glad miraheze exists [15:36:51] for free farms it is a market leader outside of fandom [15:37:12] mileage does vary sometimes unfortunately [15:37:21] Fandom is shitty on my opinion. [15:37:24] Too much ads, [15:37:30] LOTS of dangerous raids are possible [15:37:33] Mods are dum as hell [15:37:36] as good a time as any to note that volunteers are always welcome as new blood is the only way to avert issues, community or tech side [15:37:40] im literally speechless everytime i join fandom [15:38:09] fandom also once deleted all of my huge hard work writing stuff diwb [15:38:12] down [15:38:14] for something dumb [15:41:23] [1/2] offline [15:41:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1293236811790942228/image.png?ex=6706a423&is=670552a3&hm=b4beaa5858f5a47835875cce73490cb79f17df42e9ef16941484bb9d4d8dcd1a& [15:41:34] known issue, being worked on [15:41:39] they got it: #minor-announcements [15:48:10] nice [15:53:09] Having the same issue, glad its being worked on [15:57:59] No need to insult the communities. [15:58:08] The corporation is behind most of the issues [15:58:29] Lots of the communities there are just like here [15:58:36] Quite awesome [15:58:46] And many of ours came from fandom [15:58:51] And plenty will still [15:59:05] The site may be bad, but don’t take that out on the people who use it [15:59:31] Many feel moving to miraheze or another site would hurt their work too much to be worth it [15:59:35] Totally valid [16:01:27] [1/2] I'm getting a different shade of error [16:01:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1293241860327739493/image0.jpg?ex=6706a8d6&is=67055756&hm=19e5fb39e5fc50874ac3bdcc91585f0e6fb493758b59d332df7dc48e3940651c& [16:01:42] Good to know that someone's working on it [16:01:51] I am too [16:01:54] It’s interesting [16:02:09] no [16:02:13] fandom bad [16:02:17] miraheze gud [16:02:40] FANDOM did delete my wiki - I can be rather convicing sometimezs [16:03:10] I will admin abuse you [16:03:15] But then again, small nitch wiki with just me editing, little ad rev with it [16:03:30] your account has mysteriously vanished [16:03:31] same [16:03:53] as much i do not like fandom it's one of the things not fitting this channel [16:05:26] Everyone, let's vamos to #offtopic [16:05:40] Pondering what templates that Miraheze dev needs [16:06:19] Maybe we should make a site notice asking for suggestions [16:06:38] huh, error 500. [16:06:43] Good idea. I think some Wikipedia templates be able to be stripped down [16:06:59] We know; tech is working on fixing it [16:07:11] #minor-announcements [16:07:27] ah, alright, apologies [16:07:54] Raidaar I think said something about making the infoboxes better [16:09:21] What do the Dev infoboxes need? [16:09:36] I mean, there isn't much on making them better, just adding more types [16:09:45] at least for PI [16:10:06] and CSS snippet for PI which would make them look like Wikipedia [16:10:25] What about non PI infoboxes/themplaates? [16:15:01] oh nice, we’re back [16:16:20] what about indie wikis? [16:17:27] indie wikis are heroes [16:18:58] I think a Wikipedida style nation template wouldd be well used [16:20:43] so can I save what I was gonna do or nah [16:20:54] i've been waiting for almost an hour lol [16:21:28] Thought latest Mediawiki auto saved [16:21:37] Yes but [16:21:47] I've been writing in this last almost full hour [16:22:26] i stayed in editing so that the page wouldn't go blank [16:25:22] Try going back to last page to see if it auto saved [16:25:36] yeah, don't save yet [16:25:43] seems only some servers are up [16:26:27] Just as a random question: What broke? [16:27:17] we're not sure but it seems a vendor library is returning an error [16:33:04] ...and we're back up [16:37:54] [1/2] does anyone know how to make AWB only find and replace a full word? i.e. if I only want to replace `Slow` and not `{{Status|Slow}}`? [16:37:54] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Status [16:37:55] [2/2] or better yet can i just ignore template calls? [16:45:55] How it is possible to to on the vectro-2022 skin logo and wordmark and not just wordmark? It looks like it works for the Meta-Wiki as well as for regular English Wikipedia but I don't get it at all. [16:52:14] You would set wgIcon for that [16:55:40] Ah, thank you! That works! Nice! [17:12:18] [1/4] A Mirahize wiki im active on is getting some really sus users at an also suspicious rate. It started yesterday [17:12:19] [2/4] (*) [17:12:19] [3/4] I'm not a bureaucrat there so I can't personally do anything about it [17:12:19] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1293259693430673481/Screenshot_20241008_121059.jpg?ex=6706b972&is=670567f2&hm=46b0d589368de83b2ff8b0ab29253be736f4369821b50abc9073542ea69f87e6& [17:14:11] Too sus imo [17:14:22] They appear to be spambots; you don't need to do much, since we already have strong anti-spam measures in place [17:16:05] only thing that wiki has to (publicly) deal with is the accounts because it uses the moderation plugin [17:16:59] can't be that strong or they wouldn't be able to create an account [17:33:57] there's not much point to dealing with them unless they actually start posting, I've rarely seen bots like that actually even hit the filters let alone get something through [17:34:33] if it's a long stream of stuff it may be worth putting on a stewards radar if there's an easy way to smack them out at ip level for example [17:38:19] all that can be done is basically what I’d do, hunt each one by one and ban their ranges and ASNs [17:38:24] for 10 years, nonetheless [17:38:47] it's a tedious thing and doesn't make much practical difference from what I've seen tbh [17:39:00] It does for a few months [17:39:11] until a new ASN or range is used [17:39:19] It's gotten ~17 since 0:42, ns if local timezone [17:39:30] a couple months, similar outcome except for account creation log [17:39:44] spambot getting a wiki request through, that's what bugs me [17:39:58] have those bots hit yet? [17:40:39] I always wondered if the bot that hit WikiForge was a person or bot [17:41:22] dunno [17:42:11] in any case, bots will be bots [17:42:17] they find new IPs and new ASNs [17:42:40] I do miss a nice bot hunt though [18:07:48] There’s a regex thing that matches the start and end of words I think [18:07:59] @tali64 you’re the regex man thoughts? [18:08:21] "\bslow\b" should work [18:14:47] Can that be a role [18:15:01] Like the MW Support & CSS/JS Support [18:15:21] Regex man sounds cool [18:16:38] @Discord Administrators can we do it please 👉 👈 [18:17:06] who'd occupy the role? [18:17:15] @tali64 [18:17:21] And I think @.labster can regex [18:17:40] like for example, the CSS/JS role is moribund [18:17:50] if you ping it, you likely won't get a response [18:18:21] @CSS/JS Support Volunteers [18:18:27] someone respond [18:18:30] huh [18:18:37] oopsie sorry [18:18:42] kekw [18:18:46] fake news [18:18:48] So not our fault? [18:18:49] I mean I think it was failing canary so our fault anyways but [18:18:59] Always check your sources [18:19:10] literally 1945 [18:19:21] e [18:25:52] @agentisai css/js is well answered [18:26:14] wasn't when I left [18:26:15] I use it all the time [18:26:24] glad to see at least someone responds [18:26:24] And people answer it [18:26:37] @canyada and @theoneandonlylegroom are the big ones [18:26:46] Lego doesn't have it anymore [18:26:52] I was about to say [18:26:58] But @canyada is a big answerer of it [18:29:08] sorry I just got really overwhelmed by group pings, couple w/ "mediawiki support", and I'm still not in the same place, mentally [18:30:06] not a problem by any means [18:30:34] Not an issue [18:30:54] Knowing when to take a break is a good thing [18:51:37] [1/2] Hi, we're getting an error on one of our pages but not on similar pages. I'm not sure what's giving the error, but previous pages in the revision history that used to work are giving the same error so I'm not sure what to do. [18:51:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1293284687393063095/image.png?ex=6706d0b9&is=67057f39&hm=3cc6c842d8eb9a4073cdbe8e01326770d9f940feec88f55e9474c25fb59cf8ff& [18:52:18] you haven't removed the mac address [18:52:23] you've removed the exception id [18:52:25] which we need [18:52:31] you can post that publicly [18:52:52] No it's definitely my MAC address [18:53:13] As in when I plug it in to one of those lookup sites it returns my location and IP [18:53:32] then please open a security bug on phabricator because that should not be happening. [18:53:46] This is the page https://qsmpwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Pac/History [18:53:52] Alright, thank you [18:54:34] showing an exception id for me not a mac address [18:54:54] can't imagine that its showing a mac address for you but if you think so file a task and we'll investigate [18:54:56] it's an id, it's always different on refresh [18:57:19] Hmm ok [18:57:38] Does the exception id tell you anything [18:57:45] Are you sure it isn’t just taking the IP you’re connecting to it from? Also, MAC and IP are separate [18:57:45] not you but it will us [18:57:51] Yes [18:58:05] Graylog stores the details by ID [18:59:06] now I'm curious what site you're looking at because this is not possible [18:59:12] i have no idea tbh, it's just what one of my wiki editors told me [18:59:12] barring a super extraordinary instance [18:59:24] I don't think they were doing it right [19:00:41] whatever the issue is anyway isn't being logged [19:00:52] Oh dear [19:01:23] Your concern is understandable [19:02:37] Interestingly it opens in source editor no problem but gives an error when opened in visual editor [19:03:42] try to disable and enable VE? [19:06:05] Tried but it didn't work. It's not happening on any other page that i can find, it's so weird [19:07:52] we've identified the issue but we're not sure what's causing it at the moment [19:11:12] Okay thank you! [19:11:42] Do you know if it's anything we did? [19:12:12] thank you! [19:13:23] @levlies open a task with the exception id and we'll take a look [19:13:50] It's not a MAC address though, doesn't even look like one [19:14:38] I got a cut on the Same thumb for the second time in a few weeks [19:15:15] Need to find a bandaid :/ [19:15:57] Alright, will do. Thank you! [19:16:12] Careful [19:17:08] I don’t even remember what the first time was [19:17:10] Oh wait [19:17:29] I was walking with my hand on a wall at work [19:17:52] This time was one of those metal snappy bracelets [19:18:00] Right next to the first one [19:18:40] Should wash off the blood [19:18:57] How do you catch yourself with a snappy kids bracelet [19:19:34] And cause blood [19:25:11] 🤷‍♂️ [19:25:14] its not that much [19:34:15] im back [19:34:19] Who pinged [19:37:20] me [19:37:27] ^ [19:37:38] okii [19:37:42] hold on [19:37:45] lemme see if miraheze is back [19:38:05] seems like thats the case [19:38:48] need help with my wiki!! [19:39:42] keep an eye on #minor-announcements [19:39:53] i did see it lol [20:24:02] [1/2] Ok we did more digging and started purging pages, and it turns out that a lot of the similar pages actually DO give the error, but only after purging. We think it is because of this template: https://qsmpwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Book_page [20:24:03] [2/2] It worked until today, is it possible that the new update would have changed things to make the code not work? [20:36:04] yo [20:36:13] is it possible to request a username change [20:36:56] It looks like this is related to the `#CSS` tag interacting with parameters? [20:42:47] yes, there's a page about that on Meta Wiki, and it has a request button [20:48:01] hi [20:52:43] Yes [21:37:18] Hi, I wanted to ask if there is a way to block the "move" permission for all users except admins, a faster way than blocking each page one by one [21:43:02] [1/2] Yes, if you go to Manage this wiki's permissions>Manage existing groups and put in the "User" group, it will let you check and uncheck different permissions. In this case you would probably want to uncheck these: [21:43:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1293327824421257318/image.png?ex=6706f8e6&is=6705a766&hm=b0d8be998400b6dca1836159751124ce6c73e86745ab005cdd39508ac9cf313d& [21:43:53] If you have other groups such as "patrolled" or "confirmed," etc, that you don't want to be able to move pages either, you'll have to update the settings for those as well [21:44:39] What is the name of the users who have logged in, users or confirmed? [21:45:20] Users [21:46:15] You can see who is in each group by sorting by group on the page Special:ListUsers on your wiki [21:47:08] And the permissions for Users are for (all) [21:48:04] If you want to see permissions for people who are not signed in you'd put (everyone) into the manage wiki permissions page [21:49:04] Okay, thanks you very much bro :) [22:43:59] i used css to make it have a background so no