[00:12:57] [1/2] With regards to the portable infobox extension, can anybody explain to me what the "navigation" element does? I like how it looks as a separator, but I have no idea what it does and I'm having a seriously hard time finding any documentation that explains what each element is for [00:12:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1293727941754228746/image.png?ex=67086d89&is=67071c09&hm=5c3bc46a892b9748466cda0063ad54a85e57b4f4c97114b4cd9e3f7fece0aefc& [00:18:47] yes so it is a separator, a header basically [00:19:33] Oh! Awesome, so if I were to leave the text in that element blank would it just appear on the page the same way it appears on the builder? (A thin grey rectangle) [00:41:04] (Did something else with it, but I appreciate the answer :) ) [01:26:54] [1/3] I'm getting an Error 500 trying to open the preferences on my wiki: [01:26:54] [2/3] [01:26:54] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1293746548181569566/image.png?ex=67087edd&is=67072d5d&hm=b1e1429b5037b5912f67c906e393f0dd7ae5f751f1d172b3b001d65256e961df& [01:27:02] Preferences on meta wiki work fine [01:28:03] Huh [01:28:07] let me try [01:28:27] drat right im logged out [01:28:49] no error code, just a 500? [01:29:55] works for me, weird [01:29:58] anyone else getting that? [01:30:16] i <3 bugs that dont reproduce [01:30:46] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1293747521923055687/image.png?ex=67087fc5&is=67072e45&hm=8629befeb05a817d6c9cb28a515ce031407a982070c3b06168fb1cee48e73419& [01:30:59] Huh [01:31:01] No useful details [01:31:06] paladox: is this in graylog? [01:34:13] Looking at `mw.user.options` I'm not catching anything weird at first sight [01:37:41] `&meta=userinfo&uiprop=options` looks also fine [01:38:00] I feel I recall seeing this issue before [01:38:16] I can't recall what the solution was and am not on discord to search [01:38:28] pixldev: is comatose :pensive: [01:40:17] I just enabled the thanks extension on the wiki, but I don't know if that is related as I didn't try preferences before [01:45:16] hey that’s cool [01:45:19] 500 error works [01:45:25] hm? [01:46:01] Markus got the custom 500 error page displayed to him [01:46:10] before a recent update, you’d just get a standard browser message [01:46:31] wow [01:46:51] could have at least made it look cool if it aint gonna deliver any info /lh [01:47:08] it’s just an html page [01:47:29] put some robo bees on, or at least fun colors and hexagons [01:47:29] making it display actually relevant info is above my pay grade [01:47:38] no bees [01:47:42] I’m against the bee analogy [01:47:42] we don't have a paygrade [01:47:49] why [01:48:09] There’s a funny essay somewhere about it [01:50:27] i will fight against this oppression [01:50:34] doubleplus bad [01:57:31] Always happy to test stuff for you 🙃 [02:19:13] Bee heresies [02:24:37] [1/2] why am I seeing this when navigating to a page on my wiki that doesn't exist [02:24:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1293761076097323039/BNLaASn.png?ex=67088c65&is=67073ae5&hm=e943f51a049d32ba3b8b883a0bf5291fa2d02b46b6c1500f15236cbf9690a01a& [02:24:48] why is there no way to create it [02:42:50] What is the page title? [02:42:57] @princessellierose [02:43:39] oh it's not just my wiki [02:43:42] it does it on meta as well [02:43:53] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Example like this [02:43:56] says "Page Not Found" [02:46:14] We are looking into it. [02:47:14] huh [02:51:10] It was caused by a recent change on our side. Unintended side-effect [02:54:02] Could Miraheze run [grabber scripts](https://github.com/weirdgloop/mediawiki-tools-grabbers) on behalf of a wiki, or is that something that isn't done on Miraheze? [02:54:29] is it fandom [02:54:55] tomodachi94: [02:55:02] Yes it is [02:55:06] so [02:55:24] ? [02:55:26] offically, we, miraheze, won't go and break fandom ToS [02:55:55] buuuuut, since we're all volunteers most of which have no legal affiliation or the such [02:56:13] we could do it [02:56:18] I’m not sure if those scrapers go against the ToS [02:56:25] (also, theres a bot that makes it easier) [02:56:34] its not unless it takes images [02:56:39] I know image scraping does but, for example, making an xml dump might not [02:56:49] Images are the primary thing that we're missing right now [02:56:49] no thats totally fine [02:56:54] they also provide [02:57:18] DM the wiki to pixldev: and ill take a look and run a grab tmr [02:57:26] its not weird gloops script though [02:57:58] Out of curiosity, would it be the entire image history? [02:58:12] uuuuh [02:58:30] I think it would be current images and the File: page history? [02:58:50] I do have a dump of the images from ca. 6 months ago, not including any history or file revisions [02:59:02] I used the wikiteam3 tools [02:59:16] yea the tool we have used wikiteam3 [02:59:20] Image history is one of those weird things with mediawiki [02:59:30] I'm not aware of the differenced with WGs script [02:59:47] Afaict the WG script would insert the revisions into the database [03:00:26] afaict is new to me haha [03:00:37] so its directly into DB? [03:00:43] instead of an xml file? [03:01:16] The thing with grabber scripts is that it causes some centralauth intricacies [03:01:24] We could try it though [03:01:26] Yep, it uses old wiki's API to get the information, then inserts whatever it provides into the DB [03:01:45] to translate, thats agent for it makes mediawiki want to off itself [03:02:05] well it always wants to do that [03:02:21] Something something Fandom x Miraheze username conflicts? [03:02:38] no [03:02:43] i mean. maybe [03:03:10] More so that the grabber scripts create shell accounts to fill in for user links in history and log pages and CentralAuth thinks they’re real users and clones them to the global database. The issue then is when a real user wants to claim a username that’s taken by an empty shell account [03:03:18] the issue is that CentralAuth, which manages our global accounts and was pinched from Wikimedia [03:03:19] is hell [03:03:28] yeah [03:03:44] normally we import with a interwiki prefix i think [03:04:11] >fandom:sub:User:PiDeVl or smt? [03:04:13] Oh, so it'd need to be changed to not make CentralAuth shit it's pants [03:04:47] Yep, we have similar attributions on our wiki [03:04:57] (Btw: afaict is as far as I can tell) [03:05:02] im not very familar but i think it may be possible to not be attached o a real account [03:05:07] yeah i infered [03:05:23] agentisai: how would one appease our dark lord CentralAuthn [03:05:56] Sacrifice a young lamb/s [03:06:32] If we could get a grabber to generate the necessary SQL, we could change it so that it doesn’t create a shell accounts and instead uses interwiki prefixed user links to fill in for the image history section [03:06:36] thats one of the steps to set up CreateWiki actually [03:06:57] archivebot generates XML, not SQL [06:03:19] <.ultraraptor> Yo can someone head to the thread and send this dude the support email or whatever [06:03:26] <.ultraraptor> I don't know it lol [06:03:36] <.ultraraptor> Night y'all [06:23:32] [1/2] I was checking the process for custom domain, can you please confirm how to disable this option - CloudFlare's DDoS/Origin IP protection system/workers? [06:23:32] [2/2] Will it automatically be disabled by adding CNAME (cf-lb.miraheze.org) as private? [06:27:44] You should remove the orange cloud option [06:28:23] Cloudflare will then show DNS only a grey cloud [06:34:30] So orange cloud means that the traffic to that host is going through cloudflare, and grey cloud means that the traffic will then be going through Miraheze, right? [06:56:05] Yup [07:29:05] [1/2] for some reason my page doesnt have a TOC despite not having the magic word to remove it? why is that [07:29:05] [2/2] https://pokemonunbound.miraheze.org/wiki/Route_18/Raid_Den [07:47:21] Might not be enough headings [07:47:38] I think it only comes on at 4 or 5 [07:47:47] i see [07:47:52] well, its short enough at least [07:49:42] You can add the FORCETOC magic word to make it always appear [07:49:46] Or adjust the setting [08:00:18] gen [08:00:23] dead chat [08:02:56] how is it dead [08:03:53] Says the person who joined 2 days ago :p [08:08:56] this is primarily a user support server [08:09:06] it was dead for a bit [08:09:10] and? [08:09:21] thats why i revived it [08:09:26] nobody had problems or questions [08:09:51] This ain't a group chat type of space [08:10:34] "dead chat" doesn't revive anything in such type of channels, if anything it feels like waste of attention or time [08:11:50] I check server if someone needs help and it's "dead chat" [08:12:34] or I need help and wait for a reply from someone savvy, and it's "dead chat" lol [08:12:36] [1/2] If you want to "revive" the chat, do it properly ^^ [08:12:36] [2/2] By asking for help or assistance :p [08:20:57] Can I create new protection levels on my wiki (e.g. Allow only bureaucrats)? [08:23:51] you can [08:25:20] Can you tell me how to do this? [08:25:43] Has to be requested on issue-tracker [08:26:04] it's a few extra mediawiki config variables but I don't think it's on ManageWiki [08:26:27] Thank you! [12:39:40] Hey can I rename the database of my wiki? [12:40:08] through a task on issue tracker @xaloria45 [12:42:11] Ok so in Phab? [12:42:18] yup [12:42:25] Ok 👍 [12:59:00] Hey where to request actually @rhinosf1 [12:59:17] have you created a task [12:59:59] Ohh in GitHub [13:01:02] no [13:01:08] on phorge [13:01:14] create a task and i can tag it [13:01:24] it's got nothing to do with github [13:01:34] Ok [13:04:33] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12744 [14:57:30] does the improvement of createwiki also mean improved mathml rendering [15:02:24] createwiki is Miraheze's own extension [15:05:03] Math is not an extension that Miraheze develops. Thats an upstream problem. [15:34:25] Nope, nothing to do with each other [15:59:30] https://tenor.com/view/praying-crying-downfall-sad-tears-praying-gif-7785197299162436598 [16:05:54] Go complain to the extensions maintainer [16:05:59] Best chance probably [16:06:06] If they aren’t aware [16:08:07] i think its about restbase not being able to render much of $s in a single article but IDK ill probably try when i get the chance
[17:30:24] Mm wasn't this fixed? [17:39:47] So I can't get my InternetArchiveBot account to actually sign in to Miraheze wikis except Meta. Everywhere else, it's supposedly an invalid password.
[17:44:56] @cyberpower678 what are you using? Bot passwords?
[18:04:18] Username?
[18:08:07] InternetArchiveBot
[18:09:32] Oh
[18:09:47] We have that on miraheze?
[18:26:14] An invaluable bot.
[18:26:25] Good to know
[18:28:33] No. I'm signing in on the login page
[18:29:27] I can sign in fine on meta, but the SUL fails on other wikis, and I can't sign in either. Gives me an incorrect password error, and trying to reset it fails as well, saying the credentials can't be changed because it won't be used.
[18:30:24] Yes, you can request me to deploy to any wiki.
[18:30:33] (Or @serverlessharej )
[18:30:51] Though, probably not right this moment, if we're having trouble logging in
[18:31:31] Nope. Was trying to address some issue @robkam brought up on the meta talk page. (I'm way too behind on that page.). I keep forgetting to check the page.
[18:31:54] This is via the UI or API?
[18:32:04] UI
[18:32:10] Discord finally sent that
[18:32:13] IABot uses OAuth via the API
[18:32:29] That’s works?
[18:33:36] No idea. I haven't gotten there yet. IABot integration with Miraheze has been spotty since Miraheze had OAuth issues in the past. I'm just using this opportunity to check if everything is finally working properly.
[18:35:02] What wiki have you tried
[18:35:10] And Rob Kam changed fqdn's on some wikis.
[18:35:21] https://scruff.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:UserLogin
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