[00:29:04] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion [00:31:53] i have another question that might be easier to answer than my other one... how can i enable a gadget? i can't find it in my preferences [01:58:07] [1/2] I was editing a page and it started loading infinitely when I tried to save it [01:58:07] [2/2] I thought it was just my internet dying lok [01:58:07] I just noticed too [01:58:09] What is up [01:58:15] Xdd x2 [01:58:25] Oh mine is back [01:58:26] actually, I can load Meta [01:58:29] hmm [01:58:37] Works for me? [01:58:40] seems we went down entirely but now we’re back up [01:58:45] ah [01:58:46] Its already back [01:58:47] Nice [01:59:01] oh yeah looks like it came back [01:59:07] not sure what happened [01:59:56] hmm it seems PowerDNS blinked [02:01:36] Or maybe that was a symptom not the cause [02:01:53] It seems to have started there in alerts but from what I see it wasn't. [02:02:02] Maybe a network outage at the DC [02:06:09] Could be [02:06:18] because even Phorge and Matomo went down [02:07:12] what happened now [02:07:53] Yep so did all IRC bots except the relay which it may just not have been down long enough for the relay to go down. [02:08:08] saw [02:08:38] Yeah the relay only went down because I restarted the bots server rather then each service individually lol [02:09:36] hmm we aren't fully up [02:09:41] according to icinga [02:09:56] Or maybe just mwtask181 is down... [02:09:59] @agentisai [02:10:01] whats up [02:10:10] oh [02:10:12] or more accurately whats down [02:10:15] mwtask is down? [02:10:24] oh [02:10:31] Yeah I rebooted it lets see what happens [02:10:32] cpu load is off the charts [02:10:45] uh oh [02:10:56] can we see what [02:11:29] I wonder if the load on mwtask caused cloud to spike? I don't really know what happened, that one of my weaker theories though. More likely a connection bleep at DC I think. [02:11:42] oh qm reboot timed out [02:12:09] Thats how you know something is definitely wrong... [02:12:37] qm? [02:12:49] qemu manager [02:13:02] thats somehow less clear [02:13:29] Its how I reboot VMs from the cloud server without logging into proxmox web interface when I can't SSH into the VM because its down. [02:36:26] oh my omg mathjax 😳 [02:36:52] well ill see when i get to add 30 more functions but having it use mj instead of mm helps a lot [03:26:25] quick quesiton, whats better practice: trivia comes first, and gallery comes second, or the other way around? [03:36:44] for me it’s trivia then gallery [03:36:54] gallery is usually at the very bottom [03:42:15] yea ive been noticing thats the case in a lot of wikis ive checked [03:42:20] thanks [04:10:31] [1/4] Heey sorry if this isn't exactly the scope of this server I can go try to bug my friend when they're awake instead if I need to but I wondered if anyone here could answer this question: [04:10:31] [2/4] Trying to set up a custom domain for my wiki - I already have a domain but it was with google domains which recently got migrated to squarespace... unfortunately I understood google's setup, but not Squarespaces [04:10:31] [3/4] In any case, I guess I just need someone to check my logic before I request SSL so that I don't waste anyone's time [04:10:32] [4/4] My domain is zodiacs.pl, I want the wiki's url to be info.zodiacs.pl, so I added a DNS record with info as the host, CNAME as the type, and cf-lb.miraheze.org as the data, is that correct? [04:15:32] That's a great question for our @Infrastructure Specialists , however you have hit the hour most of them are offline. [04:15:45] LOL That's okay, I'll chill until tomorrow then, thanks anyway B) [04:16:26] If you haven't already done so, a [[Phorge]] ticket might be your best path to both get eyes on it and get it implemented at the same time [04:16:26] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge [04:16:26]

[04:17:57] OH thank you I'll mess with this in a second [04:40:22] that's how I do it too [04:45:10] after galleries I would put references and at the very bottom "see also" if needed [04:45:35] I put references as the final section [04:45:42] and see also before it [04:50:51] <.ultraraptor> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1294160264052215908/Screenshot_20241010-2241462.png?ex=670a002b&is=6708aeab&hm=efe042486f3299f04909d7815bc37176e41a5fa7a7f524b992735d7284205dd1& [05:26:12] Hi quick question, so me and my friend went on my wiki and clicked on preferences [05:26:14] This appeared [05:26:15] https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/751533977424101466/1293948423850033193/image.png?ex=6709e3a0&is=67089220&hm=b6825a6dcd09024420ea0c81a0fd0ba3c640edfb2119998a19544c1f718a2449& [05:26:25] What's this about [05:27:03] etherealtraveller: what wiki? [05:27:25] https://rebalancetf.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [05:27:34] Game based [05:28:02] What's strange is that even I got that error and I own the wiki [05:28:58] same bug as https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12516 [05:35:24] [1/3] what even are other options in dropdown? unable to see lol [05:35:25] [2/3] also what exactly this flag option means, the making it domain/Main Page or it would remain w/ /wiki/ if unchecked? [05:35:25] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1294171476274188459/IMG_20241011_083321.jpg?ex=670a0a9c&is=6708b91c&hm=1645042d1cf8f8e21e06fab73b56c5d0075c35e47099932a4fe43b0194a373df& [05:36:19] The other option is don't use /wiki/ [05:36:53] options are /wiki/$1 and /$1 [05:37:00] devtools my beloved [05:37:06] Yep lol [05:37:09] I'm on phone [05:37:36] I can use devtools from my phone lol. I do everything from mobile though. Takes a ton of patience. [05:37:41] and debugging production vue code my behated: https://files.catbox.moe/4m4lg5.png [05:37:55] wait you got devtools running entirely on your phone? [05:38:06] yep [05:38:10] in raw in highlighted HTML? man [05:38:10] huh neat [05:38:28] my first train of thought would be to use termux and get x11 (or wayland?) and firefox [05:38:33] anyway, what about checkbox again? [05:38:33] but i wonder how you'd approach it [05:38:46] I have termux for git mostly lol [05:38:48] accessing /wiki/ or (/) would lead you to the main page if checked [05:38:54] if disabled, it redirects you to the main page [05:39:07] And use Termius for SSH [05:39:20] Kiwi browser for browser extensions + dev tools. [05:39:26] i don't think i understand [05:40:15] It means the main page would be on example.miraheze.org rather than example.miraheze.org/wiki/Page or example.miraheze.org/Page [05:40:17] if I ask only "remove /wiki/ from articles" how main page URL will look like? [05:40:25] ah [05:40:29] neat [05:40:47] huh, neat, a browser with dev tools built-in [05:41:03] example.miraheze.org would be what would be directly no actual page displayed [05:41:19] which browser? actually wouldn't mind to have that on tablet [05:41:26] Kiwi [05:41:28] neat, thank you [05:41:41] do you also know by a chance [05:42:08] how changing all that will affect indexing and search console? [05:42:43] It should auto redirect between the versions when changed [05:43:01] But it can also be unreliable and a bit experimental with our messy redirect logic. [05:43:17] I should say my messy redirect logic [05:43:24] Can't blame it on others lol [05:43:30] so console eventually will unindex indexed /wiki/ URLs as redirects [05:43:57] Potentially but can't guarantee depends on the mood of search engines [05:44:09] google fucked Pizza Tower Wiki big time after we got custom domain, and we don't know what to do [05:44:27] we wanted to ditch /wiki/ as well but unsure now [05:45:25] we did 301 and site move in console, but it's really got bad [05:46:12] If you don't absolutely need for a logical reason I wouldn't necessarily recommend it. It can definitely have some unintended side effects on SEO and performance as well as potential for some main page action bugs sometimes (IE in the past ?action=edit didn't work but I think we fixed it) [05:47:29] If you were a new wiki that already existing SEO didn't happen I might recommend it but also if the domain doesn't have `wiki` in it removing /wiki/ can also hinder SEO because people will search for "wiki" but due to path change Google may not know that term sometimes. [05:48:41] it's pizzatower.wiki, but it was indexed (pretty well, mind you) as pizzatower.miraheze.org for a bit less than a year [05:49:22] since its .wiki it might not have a negitive effect to remove /wiki/ but then again Google is inconsistent sometimes so it also could. [05:49:34] it's a bit frustrating that custom domain don't get trough as good as w/ miraheze.org, although it's understandable why [05:49:55] I am kinda surprised about that tbh [05:50:09] my wiki w/ custom domain since day one is still non existent for google [05:50:11] Though over this year miraheze.org SEO has improved 10fold [05:50:18] *barely [05:51:04] funny enough, our wiki is available on ddg under the miraheze subdomain lol [05:51:22] https://files.catbox.moe/d2f2bk.png [05:51:25] It makes some work for custom domains SEO sometimes. Using extensions like WikiSEO can help that also. [05:51:43] *takes [05:52:36] I mean, everyone use WikiSEO, I just don't know what else to do outside of what's in ManageWiki, w/ textextract etc [05:53:21] I can try and take a look at some of your SEO settings tomorrow and see if I have any suggestions if you want? [05:53:29] I initially was against textextract+pageimages and would add syntax manually to each page [05:54:12] on pizza tower we utilise WikiSEO image function in infobox templates, because PageImages ignores portable infobox [05:54:36] Hmm I thought I fixed PageImages in PI, did I not? [05:54:57] I didn't know it's supposed to be fixed, I will check later [05:55:29] Could be the score treats it lower also [05:55:42] PageImages is weird [05:55:47] yeah [05:56:32] I have to go for now but can discuss more later [05:56:47] hopefully sleeping? [05:56:57] byee [05:58:09] Yeah lol. Trying to get a better sleep habbit then staying up till 4-5AM [07:54:20] [1/3] how do i make my infobox header look like this [07:54:20] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1294206438209622106/image0.jpg?ex=670a2b2c&is=6708d9ac&hm=4c3e88d825347682783a6b1770dd5297ee07fd4f7bd86c0fea68da1e908bf163& [07:54:21] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1294206438536904715/image1.jpg?ex=670a2b2c&is=6708d9ac&hm=d04ca8f6b54302b0f6a403474c88ab021f7e425a5748634be89600ee962d39d1& [07:56:35] [1/5] try [07:56:35] [2/5] `pi-title { [07:56:35] [3/5] text-align: center [07:56:36] [4/5] background-image: url("`static file link`"); [07:56:36] [5/5] }` [07:57:49] can i make it so that it appears for only one infobox template [08:00:29] theme should do that, or you can use TemplateStyles [08:01:01] I don't remember how theme is done but it shouldn't be hard if you follow guide [08:02:16] personally prefer TemplateStyles, it's basically moving the vode from big Common.css so it will load only for corresponding template, and only when it's used [10:14:47] @chiogaming2007 Cek komen gw di laman user lo [10:18:21] rhinosf1 hi do you wanna use your incredible wikimedia powers aka the trusted contribs group on phab to move a task to a different cloumn becuse it ticks me off [10:18:38] PixDeVl: sure [10:19:14] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T376597#10220889 [10:21:55] PixDeVl: done but I also granted you powers [10:22:08] yay, thank you [10:42:12] [1/3] how do you increase the padding [10:42:12] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1294248682157506602/image0.jpg?ex=670a5283&is=67090103&hm=1725887be5dec8022f7cde67aba028732744e76e94ff13eb869d63a35db1295b& [10:42:12] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1294248682383867954/image1.jpg?ex=670a5283&is=67090103&hm=8bad9b490f2013ddaf9d833f747370286936f0fa6ac3c7cfb5095f27ea9c4d56& [10:44:02] the class pi-item something [11:01:17] how do I force a page title to appear all lowercase both on the page and in the url? [11:34:22] Special:Analytics is confusing me... does it not show logged in users or something? im the only editer for the wiki, and my data does not show up, but a bunch of others are [11:51:28] `text-transform: lowercase;` [11:52:44] matomo analytics is pretty bare tbh, and I suspect it's slow [11:53:34] my data should be there tho if its from the past 30 days. but oh well xd [12:07:56] where do I put this? [12:11:31] [1/2] Hi, i want to request if some tech volunteer could delete a template on my wiki. It has too many revisions. [12:11:32] [2/2] Is it enough to ask for it here or do I have to open a ticket? [12:14:02] [1/2] you need to find classes/id's of title elements, and give then this rule in skin specific CSS pages [12:14:02] [2/2] depending on skin these elements might differ [12:18:41] this will do it for one specific page? [12:21:20] ah no, I thought you wanted for the entire wiki [12:22:36] [1/2] try `{{DISPLAYTITLE|...}}` then [12:22:36] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:DISPLAYTITLE [12:22:36] [2/2] but make sure to check wiki's settings, check "Allow DISPLAYTITLE" and uncheck "Restrict DISPLAYTITLE" [12:35:54] doesn't seem like I have the DISPLAYTITLE template [12:36:32] I remember I have imported stuff from wikipedia before but I forgot how to [12:52:41] it's not template, it's a magic word that's already part of MediaWiki [12:53:25] some magic words just use double figure brackets too + parsers functions [12:53:36] [1/2] when I tried adding it, my page just looks like this [12:53:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1294281752226828352/image.png?ex=670a7150&is=67091fd0&hm=451972ff18bb10f187f67726adfc6924fc2e20fe6714f0ab0602b9c6e77aba59& [12:54:09] I made sure to check the checkboxes [12:55:05] my bad, it should `:` instead of `|` [12:55:45] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1294282291224379452/IMG_20241011_155536.jpg?ex=670a71d0&is=67092050&hm=8ffce51fa18f0487f50ddc1645bb418e4e47b1ad0c5cc84fe0428f6a2e8228fd& [12:57:46] another minor thing, in wikipedia the search in the upper right corner is case-insensitive while in my wiki it appears to be case-sensitive, how do I change that? [13:04:00] @MediaWiki Specialists [13:13:09] [1/2] At the moment we only have CirrusSearch working as you needed, but it's quite resources-intensive, enabled only on request, under certain requirements [13:13:09] [2/2] TitleKey extension is also here, but not working [13:23:45] I don’t know if anyone else is having this issue but I’m unable to upload anything to my wiki today. I get an internal error and it says fatal exception of ParseError? [13:24:03] What’s the error code [13:24:05] Paste plz [13:24:17] I think that’s stewards [13:24:45] Stewards, good. You know someone with that role? [13:25:24] requirements are tired, only wikis w/ way too big amount of pages should be careful [13:25:25] I’d hope so [13:26:15] I don’t think we still have the requirements [13:26:20] It’s restricted still [13:26:28] But no numerical minimum [13:27:30] Somehow uploading is working again, I don’t know what happened but it seems the problem’s gone? [13:27:31] oh right, then @vy_canis_majoris, if you still need wikimedia's search, go request it at [[SR/R]] [13:27:31] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SR/R [13:27:32]

[13:29:18] mediawiki is a bitch sometimes to be honest ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [13:29:29] Good to hear it works [13:31:03] [1/2] Still the best though [13:31:03] [2/2] Thanks! [14:06:24] [1/2] just a quickie, is it possible to move the "contents" box from the left to the top of the article or something? but not for the whole wiki, just certion pages? [14:06:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1294300071571226654/image.png?ex=670a825f&is=670930df&hm=966857321995a3f4d4d6c18e088f7ba8ef6b61c4512257a07c2368b1b62eb320& [14:07:06] I assume w/ some CSS poking [14:07:29]