[01:28:21] I have a few small problems at present, but I am unsure what to do in the meantime. [01:28:36] hm? [01:29:04] [1/3] #Can no longer create templates? [01:29:04] [2/3] #Info box struggles :( [01:29:05] [3/3] #How to enable Extension:NewUserMessage? [01:30:27] do we have [[mw:Extension:NewUserMessage]] installed [01:30:27] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:NewUserMessage [01:30:45] for infoboxes, see [[Infoboxes]] on meta If you havent [01:30:45] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Infoboxes [01:36:15] Yes, NewUserMessage is enabled. [01:38:41] [1/2] The thread is a misnomer now; I have another, smaller concern. [01:38:42] [2/2] And for the infoboxes: I understand the issue, but I have somehow lost the ability to create templates. [05:22:00] The CSS parser function (Extension:CSS) is not working for some reason; CSS should work with page and correct page name is used, but the style is not loading for some reason [05:24:18] so uh [05:24:32] is it not delivering updates/accessing wiki pages? [05:24:35] or like [05:24:55] do you want the bot to actually do things on the wiki like edit pages and the like [05:34:14] yeah, CSS extension got stricter, my condolences [05:34:48] I can only suggest TemplateStyles + TemplateStylesExtender; can be set up to non-template pages in namespace settings [05:36:19] Alright, thank you for the heads up [05:37:00] I'm not sure if CSS parser code rewrite would help, I haven't looked into it myself [05:37:03] yet [05:37:16] I mostly use TS [05:39:38] extension:css was always a hassle to work with, esp. with intollerance to url function (even with urls associated with miraheze), so this whole thing coming up is just [05:39:47] more frustration [05:41:05] iirc I think that was actually a bug [05:42:01] what was bug [05:42:04] it not handling url() in the past? [05:42:19] it used the built-in css sanitizer in mw core, so that's actually intentional behavior [05:44:17] can we have a "what bugs has Claire fixed this week?" newsletter [05:44:25] too many things to keep up on [05:44:54] https://blankeclair.github.io/security_trinklets.html [05:44:55] lol [05:44:58] if you want i can make it an rss feed [05:45:46] every time i lay my eyes on a new piece of software, this happens: https://files.catbox.moe/d8m4ty.png [05:46:54] TIL you go by she/her [05:47:10] now you know :p [05:49:53] yup [07:21:47] Guys, is it normal for Wikibot to not show New Pages in the Recent Changes Feed? [09:35:05] can i make my page background appear differently with a different namespace [09:39:23] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1291540824521179136/1291775353890799658 [09:39:44] thank you [09:54:25] [1/2] Woo!! The Usagi Shima Wiki is on Indie Wiki Buddy!! [09:54:26] [2/2] I need to create the last few redirects before sending info about this to da community [12:46:47] [1/8] ```css [12:46:47] [2/8] .ns-3000 body { [12:46:47] [3/8] background: var(--legacy-image); [12:46:47] [4/8] background-repeat: no-repeat; [12:46:48] [5/8] background-size: 100% auto; [12:46:48] [6/8] } [12:46:48] [7/8] ``` [12:46:49] [8/8] what am i doing wrong here 😓 [12:48:26] snowstacked: i think it should be body.ns-3000 [12:50:56] and do you need var? [13:14:57] [1/2] my var is [13:14:58] [2/2] `--legacy-image: url(https://static.miraheze.org/utgwiki/c/ca/Legacy-dark.png);` [13:15:16] doesnt seem to work... u can check the css: https://utg.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Citizen.css [13:22:04] snowstacked: https://utg.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Citizen.css#L-58 [13:22:13] / * -> /* [13:23:02] OH [13:23:03] LOL [13:45:35] still doesnt appear [13:47:10] purge kick? incignito check? [13:52:58] [1/2] incognito just appears like this [13:52:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1295383853208174754/image0.jpg?ex=670e73b9&is=670d2239&hm=c9d3d04ec7c34f151e2c617179a878f6cefd8228f2c7c649bfa2f0a6ccb85778& [14:30:52] how would I go about making pull requests on github [14:30:56] for miraheze [14:31:06] PawnShop75: [[User:PixDeVl/TC 101]] [14:31:06] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:PixDeVl/TC_101 [14:31:15] I mean, I have a github account, might as well as use it [14:31:26] https://github.com/PawnShop75 [14:31:48] Oh thx BlankEclair [14:31:52] yw [14:42:21] Hey thats a me [14:42:27] hehe [14:55:20] How do I edit the css for a specific template? [14:57:54] [Template]/styles.css [14:58:02] assuming template styles or something extension was enable [14:58:16] Thanks [15:05:19] how would i stop every image in the wiki from getting inverted in dark mode? [15:22:36] there are snippets fixing dark mode somewhere on dev wiki [15:26:10] Does anyone know why my uploaded pictures to the main page of my wiki aren't displayed until I log in? [15:26:26] Im worried that when someone tries to enter the page without an account, it'll look like a broken page to them [15:26:35] Cache most likely [15:26:46] Or your wiki is private [15:27:04] Oh, that affects it? [15:27:18] Shoot [15:27:34] How would I transition it from a private to public wiki then? [15:28:25] It's a setting in the "Manage this wiki's core settings" [15:30:59] Gotcha [15:30:59] Thanks for the help! [15:38:18] [15:42:31] Thank you [16:09:40] guys where can I search for wikis? [16:11:50] there's no search of Miraheze wikis but there's [[Special:WikiDiscover]] [16:11:50] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:WikiDiscover [16:11:53]

[17:08:26] Searching “ wiki miraheze” can’t hurt [17:10:19] only result is this one user page saying they where gonna make one [17:10:27] idk how to se eif they actualyl did tho [18:03:15] Check their central Auth for wikis where they have an account attached [18:06:30] Sorry wdym? [18:14:17] Go to [[Special:CentralAuth]] and enter their username [18:14:17] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth [18:14:17]

[18:17:18] Are you able to reveal what wiki you're trying to look for? [18:31:19] Countryballs Europe 1890 [18:31:28] there was a fandom wiki [18:31:34] wondering if there's another one [18:32:30] dang blocked for `substantial violations of account policy for ban evasion/vandalism, hostile actions against other users` [18:32:56] rip them ig [18:33:54] Yeesh [18:34:01] yeah don't think they ever made that wiki [18:34:20] ig there is the other game from the developer [18:35:06] Do you know if the people working behind the fandom wiki reacted to the closure of it? [18:35:22] no clue, just know I used to be a beuro [18:35:34] on some acocunt that's probs been deleted by now [18:35:42] did that to like all my acocunts [18:36:14] just checked it 2day and it was deleted [18:36:23] and couldn't download files as extracting was too much memory [18:36:43] seems unrealistic so maybe some large level trolling happened idk [18:57:37] okay so.......... kindaaa wanna change the wiki scope again [18:57:49] in my defence this tiem i actually have a wik ifile thingy [19:28:06] [1/3] Hi everyone, german PhD Student and Knowledge Community NPO founder here, looking for the right place to "get in touch". Via https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Contact_us / https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help_center, Discord felt like the right place. What is the right place to talk to "the miraheze project"? I know, it feels like asking to talk to "The wikipedia", where I could con [19:28:06] [2/3] tect the WMF or WMDE in my case. [19:28:07] [3/3] TL;DR: Whom do I contact to have a chat about Miraheze? [19:28:47] It is [19:28:51] 👀 [19:34:25] [1/4] Alright, cutting it short: [19:34:25] [2/4] In short, we would like to create an index for “freely” accessible videos (including YouTube, etc.) that communicate education and science there. The aim is to connect the creators and communities there moderately to the “actually free” knowledge, see Wikipedia, and to simplify the way there. [19:34:25] [3/4] We have been experimenting directly with the technology stack provided by the WMF for about 2 years, currently focusing on the first MediaWiki experiments, probably extended by Semantic Mediawiki, as was recommended to us in discussions with the WPDE community and will be discussed at the MediaWiki Users and Developers Conference in Vienna. [19:34:26] [4/4] Right now, we're roughtly at the end of the first experimentation phase, and would start on an actual demonstrator soon. Just having learned about Wikibase and Miraheze makes me feel like we might wanna stick around a little longer in experimentation phase. [19:35:13] I wouldn't want to use Wikibase & Semantic MediaWiki together [19:35:30] _likes the sound of experimentation and technology demonstrator_ [19:36:28] Feedback greatly appreciated, comments exactly like those are what I'm currently searching for 🙂 [19:37:42] I mean you clearly have a formulated concept but I think you probably want to play a bit with the concept of what wiki stuff you want first before you call it a demonstrator [19:37:49] The idea sounds pretty smart though [19:38:00] Structured media [19:38:22] I wonder if the structured data for commons team would have ideas [19:38:41] May I post 2 pictures here? [19:40:15] Sure [19:40:55] [1/4] That's the current concept as a 2-pager. [19:40:55] [2/4] Within the next 6 month, we aim to puzzle all current developments into one demonstrator and see how far we are already, and what gaps (in our understanding or technology) are still wide open [19:40:56] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1295471419685077072/image.png?ex=670ec547&is=670d73c7&hm=b10cd3a83571550897861fcb87d3e80d88d9e4920fa4cd4251b034f21ac3eaba& [19:40:56] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1295471420133998652/image.png?ex=670ec547&is=670d73c7&hm=cf8f5f0a0a75a71a8ecbce9c4d283d223a8c3e9d366e90753622deaa9d08c6c7& [19:43:09] I really like the idea [19:43:21] Semantic MediaWiki or Wikibase would work [19:43:40] @theresnotime or @urbanecm who owns structured data? [19:44:51] Took me ages to find https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Readers/Structured_Content [19:44:54] I'm just a regular user but maybe make this into thread (here or in support) to not lost it? [19:45:22] But that has no contact link [19:47:33] @Wiki Creators: I assume you guys would be happy with a wiki to do ^ on the understanding they are testing concepts to aim to have a demonstrator. Or maybe even multiple wikis to try different approaches? [19:59:49] [1/2] Really appreciating all the input, pings and help. Feel free to structure this request / topic however you see fit, as a thread etc. [19:59:50] [2/2] I'll gladly wake up tomorrow and provide any further information I can, alongside soaking up all the new knowledge for us to get this project running 🙂 [20:02:09] Feel free to create a thread in #support [20:02:15] I will happily geek out [20:02:28] You can also email rhinosf1[at]wikitide.org [20:03:05] We could make a thread here as well [20:03:24] Do it [20:29:35] you found it? [20:30:04] How do you contact them though [20:30:25] As far as adherence to content policy/spirit of approvable wiki projects goes, the thing as described by @borgnetzwerk seems pretty clearly in-bounds to me. [20:31:49] Where we may run into trouble is if the wikis end up demanding an extremely outsized amount of storage/compute to the detriment of our ability to provide stable hosting. The demonstration slides don't suggest a problem to me, but I only took a very cursory look. [20:32:20] [1/2] > No active login attempt is in progress for your session. [20:32:20] [2/2] repeatedly when trying to log in, which is fun. [20:32:33] I think if it stays at TRL 3-5 it should be fine [20:32:40] depends on the reason, a phab task is probably a good first step (or a talk page message) [20:32:40] TRL 6 should be too [20:33:22] I think anything beyond a demonstrator we could see what hosting is suitable [20:33:56] I think it's suitable to take it from TRL 2-6 inclusive with us [20:33:58] [1/2] Hello, could I ask a quick question? [20:33:58] [2/2] how long does it usually take for the steward mail to be read? [20:34:06] From a resource perspective [20:34:11] a quick message to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:CParle_(WMF) even [20:34:14] sorry for the very sudden interjection btw [20:34:16] @Stewards [20:34:22] @borgnetzwerk [20:34:43] @notaracham am I talking nonsense talking TRLs or? [20:35:29] I am going to download CentralAuth onto an cassette tape and smash it into powder [20:35:59] Please add that to quips [20:36:00] Don't have bandwidth to think that through, today is slammed for me, but others might. [20:36:18] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_readiness_level#Definitions [20:36:21] Feel free to [[User:BlankEclair/Quips [20:36:27] Oops [20:36:48] I want a shower though [20:36:57] Also I am not going to be able to make a PR for readding citoid [20:37:01] Puppet is Greek to me [20:37:11] I did find the commit though that added it [20:37:40] You're doing well if it looks like a language tbh [20:37:48] Puppet is ye [20:37:49] Yeah, in short, we can work as a proving ground for initial concepts/demonstration, but we aren't a suitable host as a permanent infrastructure for the production version, if I understand this to be what I think it is. [20:37:58] Now that’s a quip [20:38:02] only on Firefox, greattt [20:38:42] Again, my eyes are need elsewhere, so maybe a Q for dtech? [20:38:50] https://bash.toolforge.org/quip/o7E1w3IBLkHzneNNCXWA, https://bash.toolforge.org/quip/tjq1jXUBgTbpqNOmZ-m4, https://bash.toolforge.org/quip/AWfMzwcZfM03vZ1omSOA, https://bash.toolforge.org/quip/AU_3cMwj1oXzWjit5obk [20:39:04] It's just been 10 days, so I thought I should atleast ask [20:39:11] Ye that bit is techy if you're happy from a content policy side [20:39:15] thank you, btw [20:39:29] We'll address things as we can, I don't see any major missed comms, so please feel free to resend/reply to bump it. [20:40:01] I've been nerd sniped tbh so you can tell me to shut up and focus [20:40:18] done [20:40:59] It's safe, because this is all a pretty secluded corner of the internet, but I thought it wise to fix the whole 'visible and easily identified ip' issue [20:41:06] At some point [20:41:15] Yeah, don't see anything matching this request, so seems like it may have failed to send/gotten stuck in spam [20:41:20] Will address [20:41:30] thank you very much 🙂 [20:42:09] Confirmed spam filtering, so whitelisted in case another request comes up [20:51:31] having re-read all their messages again, it seems they don't need to talk to wmf and want to talk to miraheze instead (: [20:51:50] (this would be an odd place to come to want to talk to the wmf anyways..) [20:53:06] [1/2] Yeah my general read/classification of this is: [20:53:06]