[00:00:13] browsers want to save pages, that's why it takes minutes to apply [00:04:09] <.guardianx., replying to emicraftnoob> [1/5] Yeah it just threw me off, was running stuff in the web console just fine, put it into testing and...nothing. [00:04:09] <.guardianx., replying to emicraftnoob> [2/5] So I deleted it, tried some more in the console, everything worked! [00:04:09] <.guardianx., replying to emicraftnoob> [3/5] Put THAT into testing and....nothing. [00:04:09] <.guardianx., replying to emicraftnoob> [4/5] Every time I was clearing cache and purging pages thinking that would cycle it thru faster LoL. [00:04:10] <.guardianx., replying to emicraftnoob> [5/5] Oh well, live and learn. [00:16:26] [1/2] How do I use @WikiBot in my server? [00:16:26] [2/2] It just says "You don't have permission to do this" tho I'm admin in the server [00:18:03] It’s whitelist only based on roles [00:18:36] Because we don’t need people spamming shit onto IA(or digital’s for that matter) limited storage space [00:19:44] Well, going back to running dumps in a Terminal 🥲 [00:19:59] I need help setting up a media wiki page! [00:20:53] how can help u [00:21:08] Can we hop in a vc or a call rq [00:21:14] no [00:21:15] We don’t really do that here [00:21:48] Well I am very new to this and legit have no idea what I am doing all I know is that I want to make a media wiki site [00:22:10] We don’t have any VCs in this discord and most people probably aren’t comfortable talking to someone they aren’t familiar with in a private call(I have only spoken to a single person in voice actually) [00:22:31] Use miraheze :] [00:22:46] What exactly are you confused about? Are you asking about our request process? [00:23:20] Wait I am gonna give it a try give me a second [00:23:50] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWiki jic [00:25:30] hmm, https://rainverse.wiki/wiki/MIS:176:_We_Won%3F?action=history was created yesterday but https://rainverse.wiki/wiki/Special:RecentChanges doesn't show it for some reason [00:25:43] So I cant make one? [00:25:59] You need to create an account [00:26:22] Is it a bot edit, [00:26:26] Also morning Claire [00:26:28] nope [00:26:32] show bots also doesn't do it [00:26:49] Huh [00:27:05] actually [00:27:08] my edit doesn't show up either [00:27:22] Anyways, are you enjoying your yurikeys? [00:27:26] mediawiki being drunk [00:27:27] mhm! [00:27:41] i wonder how yurico feels about me calling them yurikeys [00:27:57] They uh probably Don’t know don’t care [00:28:05] yeah, they probably don't know [00:28:06] yet [00:28:29] Also didn’t know Secure it Forward was branded on it [00:28:35] yeah same [00:28:45] Neat! And useful til I get a cover [00:29:06] pics for everyone else: https://cloud.disroot.org/s/XFrtC38D37s7s8d [00:29:12] Ie I’m heading up to NYC on Friday for game night with wiki folks and some WMF people [00:29:32] oh neat :3 [00:29:41] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1308952441043026011/IMG_5299.jpg?ex=673fd075&is=673e7ef5&hm=42b63b21a796be582bd503d1360a9256e2b1ae9edde06d8fff5b509a5b33abca& [00:29:42] Mine [00:29:53] i spent basically the entirety last evening making a pdf -> epub converter for a specific file [00:30:06] [1/2] so I need to wait for them to accept me? [00:30:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1308952546643017818/image.png?ex=673fd08e&is=673e7f0e&hm=0b254fbc2056aa5374d2834043699f81c9ed37260fc99527591833db84e982a8& [00:30:10] Yes [00:30:20] Yes [00:30:22] Claire: off topic? [00:30:26] is there any other way I can do it without that [00:30:28] oh yeah, sorry [00:30:36] No [00:30:44] If you don't want your own wiki you can mess around on the public test wiki [00:30:45] No [00:30:56] On Miraheze this is how we make sure everything we host complies with our police’s [00:31:02] any other webistes like Mirahze that arent [00:31:11] We have a legal obligation as a registered non profit [00:31:17] i believe there's a comparison page on miraheze [00:31:17] Fandom if you like ads [00:31:19] No 🥲 [00:31:36] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:Comparing_Miraheze_to_other_services [00:32:10] How updated it that [00:32:14] good question [00:32:37] > curprev 15:05, 20 September 2024‎ Rob Kam talk contribs‎ 9,090 bytes −25‎ Rephrased for Miraheze to show less crosses. undothank [00:33:20] but dw [02:03:15] [1/2] how do i enable {{#username}} if its disabled my default? [02:03:15] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%23username [02:03:15] [2/2] https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UserFunctions#Functions_(disabled_by_default) [03:23:22] [1/2] is there any way to make the cell on the left fill the empty space to the right? [03:23:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1308996149541081098/image.png?ex=673ff92a&is=673ea7aa&hm=98c7f1a753940626b082ae7712261fecf13d974a423b48855e4304763ec5f6b1& [03:23:47] just make it stretch to the other side ig [04:07:21] 💤 [04:22:46] width: calc(100% - 300px) [04:26:54] nope sadly didnt work [04:34:14] I have created a ticket on issue-tracker - is there anyone available from the team to pick it up? https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12907 thanks [04:53:02] can you give the link to the page [04:53:20] i fixed it i just set the width of the right cell to 0% [04:53:32] im just slightly slow [05:42:02] [1/2] How to increase the size of my wiki logo? [05:42:02] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1309031046649745428/image.png?ex=674019aa&is=673ec82a&hm=02ff99af2b53c422c80dd4784619e82b205446dbac938689aba90169788c0b29& [05:56:45] I just created a wiki and when someone tried to sign up, they got a database error. When I tested it myself, I reproduced the error: [05:56:54] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1309034787746615316/Screenshot_2024-11-21_005604.png?ex=67401d26&is=673ecba6&hm=b795929e47e4e99fbd43f30cef86a39f671dfd5dd1b1d09fd6363485675c9ec6& [05:57:18] [1/2] ```A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. [05:57:19] [2/2] [8367dde776eb374845f156c7] 2024-11-21 05:54:38: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError"``` [05:59:43] seems like a rouge update [05:59:47] what's your wiki's URL? [06:01:15] https://deadblossomjesse.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [06:01:32] Do Miraheze Team take backup of the wiki's? if we need daily backup of our wiki - do they able to provide us? [06:01:52] It's strange because the wiki was created only 2 hours ago. [06:02:37] We take backups every two weeks and public backups every month. If you want a backup for yourself, you can generate one at Special:DataDump. We only provide .xml backups [06:05:09] We need to automate backup for our wiki? do Miraheze able to provide us the backup every two weeks? [06:05:48] No, we back it up for you. If you want a backup provided to you for your own personal use, you can also make one via Special:DataDump [06:05:59] The backup we make is for our own internal use during an emergency [06:07:16] should be fixed [06:07:20] apologies for the issue [06:07:36] Oh! Thank you so much! What did you do? [06:09:30] A recent update to the LoginNotify extension intorduced the need for a new `loginnotify_seen_net` table which was not configured to be created on wiki creation as we were unaware that such a table now existed. Since that table was missing and LoginNotify is ran on login, logins failed so I created the table on the wiki. [06:11:13] Wonderful, thanks so much! [09:35:17] [1/2] I have removed my wiki from inactive state but still getting this message when I open the wiki in private window or someone open it for the first time, will it take some time to remove from the main page? [09:35:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1309089746290475050/image.png?ex=67405055&is=673efed5&hm=88e667f530273270d9d126d2487be3c53bf4bb2edeae2f4da9177653b2a2aa78& [09:38:02] [1/2] a) cache, it might take a bit of time [09:38:02] [2/2] b) make a normal edit for timer to reset [09:47:02] b) won't work, it doesn't check on every edit [09:47:58] I was told this should be done after opening ... [09:57:04] an edit might help maybe but it doesn't reset any timer [09:57:25] there's no timer to reset [10:17:00] [1/2] i can't access miraheze wiki because 500 error [10:17:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1309100243836473364/Screenshot_20241121_171609_Chrome.png?ex=67405a1c&is=673f089c&hm=d22207b8095b5cda716c1b4b93e9705c6b4ad5a6d22fa07bd43c748a09f3d6a4& [10:18:27] weird [10:18:31] @paladox ^ [10:19:21] [1/2] I have created this ticket yesterday - is there anyone in the team available to pick it up please? [10:19:22] [2/2] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12907 [10:20:32] you make zero sense and also be patient [10:20:45] You don't or do want the DB replaced [10:21:14] also how does your username comply with [[Username Policy]] [10:21:14] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Username_Policy [10:21:14] [10:21:32] [1/2] Suggests a level of power, access, or authority that it does not have (e.g. "Site Administrator"); [10:21:32] [2/2] Suggests an official relationship with Miraheze or the WikiTide Foundation unless a legitimate official account; [10:21:38] IT Support does that [10:23:10] [1/2] We need DB replace - and it is clearly mention here [10:23:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1309101795057864774/image.png?ex=67405b8d&is=673f0a0d&hm=641c2d794b77e3f28961de178909456759950fe85a5f5b342fd8b61c6bad66f2& [10:23:59] @avengers9309 but then you say you don't want the current one deleting [10:24:03] which is it [10:24:15] we can recreate the wiki and do the import or just do the import [10:25:07] also cc @Stewards on the username [10:28:59] @rhinosf1 Just make it simple - delete the current DB and then import the new one which I have attached in the ticket [10:30:02] And you know you'll loose everything not just pages [10:30:16] any config, user rights etc will be as new [10:31:50] Anyway I can save these configuration? and import DB without changing the config? [10:32:04] stop calling it a DB [10:32:16] you want to import pages but the content be blanked first [10:32:33] we can delete all your pages first and then import [10:32:56] the import will apply the revisions in the correct order though [10:33:16] tell me exactly what you want in clear terms [10:33:22] and why [10:33:30] and we will tell you how [10:33:35] @avengers9309 [10:35:15] delete all pages and then import - because we have made some more pages in our wiki which is running locally and now we want it to import on miraheze hosted wiki [10:35:29] ok [10:38:00] it will be done in due course [10:38:22] @avengers9309 can you also answer how your username complies with [[UP]] [10:38:22] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/UP [10:38:23] [10:44:02] I just created a user with this username - let me check the policy and if need I will delete it and create a new user [10:44:43] you can rename your account [11:32:10] Hello [11:52:12] Hi [12:42:54] [1/2] just stumbled upon a cool extension [12:42:54] [2/2] https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PagesVisited [12:43:51] Sorry but it's BlueSpice [12:44:10] oh [12:44:40] dang [12:49:17] snowstacked: check out rainworld wiki ;) [12:49:32] and poke around a few pages [12:50:04] omg [12:50:06] omg omg omg [12:50:15] last 5 pages viewed [12:50:17] i need the code [12:51:21] I think candlesign is in this discord, you could ask them(unless i got the name wrong in my half asleep slumpor) [12:53:05] hi @candlesign.4539 may i know how u did the last 5 pages visited thing [13:11:43] [1/2] @avengers9309 [13:11:44] [2/2] I’ve renamed your account as requested. Thank you for following the policy and submitting the request [15:07:12] thanks @kiju1108 [15:07:21] i asked them too earlier in here [15:08:01] what is patrolling in wiki pages [15:11:17] Basically a patroller verifies other people's edits to be in line with a wiki's policies etc. [15:16:59] [1/4] Why is it always the Trashy Vyond Video Wiki... [15:16:59] [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1309175734421553192/Screenshot_20241121-071527.png?ex=6740a06a&is=673f4eea&hm=27f40e15ccd18985c6db624f707b74be813da6019bac9d6f41d4aa38f32fbaa5& [15:16:59] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1309175735231057990/Screenshot_20241121-071542.png?ex=6740a06a&is=673f4eea&hm=ea9950e3652d726dc96771e79fb7286692b9e50b33bf5d917800473a8ffda1f3& [15:17:00] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1309175736057462784/Screenshot_20241121-071520.png?ex=6740a06a&is=673f4eea&hm=0b031c1d472c83bbfd3a83d25bb66fe2c10842bf9046b412ef9857095b91b6f4& [15:17:39] suspect an extension they have is broken [15:17:51] @paladox @reception123 ^ [15:24:31] <.guardianx.> [1/11] BlankEclair (Sorry if I butchered that, I assume you are IRC only), had a question about Usage for you since i saw you had a pull request on DataMaps, if you don't mind. [15:24:31] <.guardianx.> [2/11] I'm trying to "get Creative" with my implementation of the map and am wondering if there are ways I can group things together, like: [15:24:32] <.guardianx.> [3/11] `Ore [15:24:32] <.guardianx.> [4/11] Copper [15:24:32] <.guardianx.> [5/11] Iron [15:24:33] <.guardianx.> [6/11] ect [15:24:33] <.guardianx.> [7/11] Monsters [15:24:33] <.guardianx.> [8/11] Unique [15:24:33] <.guardianx.> [9/11] Common [15:24:34] <.guardianx.> [10/11] ect..` [15:24:34] <.guardianx.> [11/11] are you aware if thats possible? [15:25:05] i think claire is asleep [15:25:12] <.guardianx.> Ahh okay sorry [15:25:21] it's 1am there [15:26:00] <.guardianx.> Good, to know, ty [15:33:43] ?. I’m also mobile [15:34:03] ok np [15:34:07] Oh 3rd pic has an error [15:34:08] poisioned opcache if I had to guess [15:34:17] @agentisai can you have a look pls [15:34:26] sure [15:35:41] can you try now? [15:49:17] [1/2] Oh wait it's back [15:49:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1309183863477502012/Screenshot_20241121-074849.png?ex=6740a7fc&is=673f567c&hm=0261cce878933bed9a81f5da9f4a1f3b8465ab148430f2d6fa0914cd48abfd55& [16:16:57] On Chrome the woff files are blocked by the CORS policy, on Firefox there seems to be no problem. Is it just me? [17:07:42] [1/2] I have a question [17:07:43] [2/2] Why is this general chat have integration with IRC since barely anyone uses IRC anymore [17:09:48] Some people still use IRC, and it doesn’t hurt to have [17:10:04] For users without discord it lets them ask questions using the web client [17:10:25] People like Claire and MacFan, both members of the technology team, dont use discord [17:11:05] I use it when I don’t wanna get on discord :o [17:14:25] [1/4] Personally I don't see the point [17:14:26] [2/4] IRC is a pain to setup in the modern day [17:14:26] [3/4] Discord is so much more accessible and easy to get in, just make an account, click the link, boom go and chat [17:14:26] [4/4] IRC gotta type in lots of things and just a pain [17:17:50] I don't see a problem with it. [17:17:58] IRC is based [17:19:29] [1/2] there is a handful of users who do use IRC so clearly it has some use, although in many communities you'd be right to say it would not. But miraheze is a bit different and a holdout in this. Setup is already done and probably easier than you give credit for, indeed a lot of the post expresses a lack of understanding how irc operates imo. Discord is easy to get in as long as you aren' [17:19:29] [2/2] t IP flagged for any reason, are willing to hand over your phone number when they decide they want it, same with email, while IRC is accessible through a web client or whatever else you want to use pretty much. Bonus that whatever you use is probably going to render much faster than Discord's incredibly bloated interface. [17:20:30] discord is a highly centralized blinged out irc chat at the end of the day, it is the flavor of the decade so people are predisposed to it - but it's really not much more than that. And no, you don't "gotta type in lots of things" for irc either really, occasionally you type in some things instead of what is otherwise menu hunting on discord [17:21:09] Yeah, you just enter in a name and that's all [17:21:19] three way bridge between discord, matrix and irc would be pure horror [17:21:37] pretty sure libera cut that one off on their end in fact [18:05:22] Uh, no I very much disagree [18:05:30] The web client especially is tribal to use [18:08:17] And using discord should not be a requirement, it’s an absolute horror with personal data collection and privacy conscious folks should absolutely have the right to engage in the community without subjecting themselves to that [18:24:27] <.guardianx., replying to pixldev> [1/2] Right on, we sacrifice a ton in the name of ease. Discord is a great tool, but irc is amazing. [18:24:28] <.guardianx., replying to pixldev> [2/2] I miss mumble. LoL [18:24:38] <.guardianx.> well, it's not dead...but ya [18:35:20] this channel has 48+ members [18:36:38] Also our presence on IRC predates our presence on Discord [19:18:48] Mandatory xkcd https://xkcd.com/1782/ [19:20:11] I absolutely appreciate the fact there is more than just one platform allowing me to connect to somewhere. I think every community should have an alternative official chat bridged with the other. [19:26:39] I don't love the fact that so many open communities flogged Discord, it's a venture capital (meaning it has expiration date) and raises multiple privacy concerns. There is only one official client and you are forbidden from using any other (ofc you can use other but you can be banned at a whim). [19:27:05] IRC sucks, but at least it's an alternative [19:30:04] Matrix solves some of those issues by being FOSS, decentralized etc but I haven’t used it [19:30:25] No code, it's Extension:JSBreadCrumbs! [19:30:43] Huh [19:30:49] Well I mean there is code just nothing you have to manage yourself haha. [19:33:12] is the wiki analytics gone?.. or have i gone blind? [19:34:06] [1/2] i guess someone made me blind 😛 [19:34:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1309240443493552148/image.png?ex=6740dcae&is=673f8b2e&hm=ed33a0f06edecbe8b7c036cdfd131aed9b8be239473fdb5a1f3fe0bbd830f7fd& [19:40:39] @agentisai did we forget to fix this [19:45:17] I absolutely understand people getting annoyed by "discord-fication" of communities and usage of discord as alternative to wikis, of all things [19:47:40] [1/2] down again? [19:47:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1309243857397092512/Screenshot_2024-11-21_114721.png?ex=6740dfdc&is=673f8e5c&hm=08d66ecf38bfaf5db2d703dda2de6804a87c0d8c5c111a0fcf5c5995744d7238& [19:49:09] shouldn't be, no [19:51:02] (Cannot access the database: Cannot access the database: Connection refused (db171)) rip [19:51:12] give it a moment [19:51:21] messed the syntax of an upgrade command [19:52:05] happens, thanks for info [19:52:39] wiki went down [19:52:43] + [19:54:26] Ah, the grand Miraheze tradition of the 404 page—truly a timeless classic! [19:55:01] Trix and I saw the 2022 incident strike back again. [19:55:07] … 500 and 502 errors… [19:55:17] i got 503 😄 [19:55:22] should be back at this point (it is for me) [19:59:00] yup [19:59:06] momentary blip, sorry about that [20:01:36] 502 here. [20:01:45] It worked for one page, then 502. [20:01:51] <_changezi_> 500 for me [20:02:21] <_changezi_> Okay, we're back up [20:04:33] https://tenor.com/view/kitty-gif-27687064 [20:10:57] just gonna put this out here, if the short downtime was due to the analytics thingy, its still a thingy 😛 [20:11:44] no, that’s very minor [20:11:58] the outage was due to a bad upgrade command [22:15:56] @frostu8 May wanna #verify to post links btw [22:16:29] haha, you see me pelting your posts, was trying to link to another support post [22:21:19] Yeah saw in audit lol [22:30:11] thanks for letting me know! trying to WABM but mediawiki insanity is getting in my way [22:34:39] Amen [23:23:14] hello! i just made a request for a wiki and checked the request queue and its not there. i've refreshed the page a couple times and used the search features with no success. i couldn't find anything in the help section about potential errors with the queue so i came here [23:23:39] just wanted to check if it was a matter of waiting for it to load, or if I did something incorrectly and need to resubmit anything [23:23:54] Hm, what’s your account? [23:24:10] Fromthebunkers [23:24:40] i didn't run into any actual errors with the submission process itself [23:28:09] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1309299343580200990/image.png?ex=67411389&is=673fc209&hm=3afdc5a121ef7218682f3d262d1dc697535ba8a0bebc16acd2d65235ab001335& [23:28:27] Huh [23:28:35] What was the subdomain [23:28:45] skyjacks.miraheze.org [23:30:34] Hm [23:30:36] Don’t see it [23:30:40] When was it submitted [23:30:54] within the last 15 minutes or so [23:31:14] Are you sure it successfully submitted? [23:31:54] i filled out every field, hit submit, and it took me to the "thanks for submitting" page where i was prompted to check its status in queue [23:32:08] Huh https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=farmer&user=Fromthebunkers&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist [23:32:13] That’s real weird [23:32:34] Try submitting again and explaining [23:32:40] you got it! [23:34:29] If it happens again I’ll hit up our tech folks [23:35:00] This isn’t something we can see happening unless directly reported so if it’s a bug uuuuuugh [23:43:37] [1/4] screenshots of me filling it all out this time. also gonna copy the description in case this one fails too. thankfully it seems like all the other fields remembered my entries [23:43:37] [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1309303234061533234/image.png?ex=67411728&is=673fc5a8&hm=10182fc0147c1324779fe2ba34c97cabf2f00f497d6c16facc42a2a40e2343a6& [23:43:37] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1309303234468515881/image.png?ex=67411728&is=673fc5a8&hm=e245ea04d2b529dabe174c2fa2c29cf0db8e2626f132edf7b9d5aba8369c6304& [23:43:38] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1309303234783084586/image.png?ex=67411728&is=673fc5a8&hm=f37b9273904562f0ffd92e016c427530a1a90b3e445cfb47cf49974ac891edfa& [23:44:20] it worked! [23:44:41] and its visible in the queue [23:47:38] A WIKI ISNT A WIKIPEDIA AAAAAAA [23:47:57] lmao [23:48:21] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1309304427278237818/image.png?ex=67411845&is=673fc6c5&hm=61ff0d51be45153097e57f1fe7642207e0e8ec65a92ee5a350953f4ca7d97bfe& [23:48:24] better [23:48:27] As an occasional wikimedians depending on the phase of the moon and New York transit [23:48:33] :PepePray: [23:48:46] All is right in the world(minus the one in body text)