[00:00:51] we going with a 10k donation goal? Also are we gonna have that bar be updated automatically? [00:03:50] Yes on A (with stretch goals), B is a @serverlessharej question but probably manual given complexity [00:04:10] As far as I know the bar needs to be updated manually [00:05:24] It would be practically impossible to do automatic updates with stuff like paypal etc, because theres no way to receive an event on paypal et al donations [00:06:18] Theoretically if miraheze were to use something like Stripe, then we could hook into a donation payment and update the bar with that but that seems like too much work for something like this [00:06:27] Also managing stripe is a ball ache in itself [00:06:50] ^ Agreed on all of that [00:10:52] PayPal does have a few rest API hooks that might allow build of a transaction log, but it would be a pull, not a push, and is def above my fledgling rest skills. [00:12:37] Making me wanna do it [00:12:38] Hmmm that might work tbf, it would be easy to register the bar as a parser tag and when the page loads just make a http request before the page is shown and update the bar that way (and iirc a github action can capture donations via github) [00:13:08] sub page for each donation source, updated on event where support, else cron pull, if needed manually [00:13:28] sum them, format with parser funcs or lua and make the bar go vroom [00:13:35] Inb4 miraheze december hackathon [00:13:45] hm? [00:35:22] No idea what inb4 means but im down [00:36:26] Its like "in before", so basically sometbing like "im saying this before anyone else does" kind of thing [00:37:22] oh [01:48:22] gotta say, am i the only person who doesn’t really like how we do RFCs [01:48:42] Is this is the place to ask a template question? [01:48:51] like, I strongly feel that they’re working more like a vote then a discussion [01:48:54] sure [01:49:02] @maulmachine ask away. [01:49:20] oh hello again Maul [01:49:32] ! [01:49:38] oh i saw the ping [01:50:12] i wasn't going to ask, but apparently this is the place [01:50:16] [1/2] is this valid template code? [01:50:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1312958988513706085/image.png?ex=674e63d8&is=674d1258&hm=a91671d94c922b429d9bde0c4bdd179cb397fa4e40740e1bcfae927b0b976b47& [01:51:34] to explain, general is combo general discourse and help. Support exists for complex stuff [01:51:49] Not how templates work [01:51:52] a template is a page [01:52:04] whatever is on there will be transcluded [01:52:19] No such thing as invalid templates [01:52:33] If you’re using lua or dependency templates [01:52:38] then you may have issues [01:52:51] it may not be valid HTML markup, but that’s different [01:53:14] HTML and CSS wise looks fine [01:54:11] And adding to this, it’s a high overhead to change small details, because someone may think it would be better to change something slightly but not care enough to make a new proposal [01:54:44] and if someone already checked the RfC and left a vote they won’t see the new one they may like more and that gets less votes and fails [01:54:55] but that’s an issue inherent unfortunately [01:55:20] I do think we could find ways to improve it somehow [01:55:33] okay [01:55:42] i will create that template then, and hope it works [01:55:44] thanks [02:06:07] It's also kinda broken now too, since it's hard to get above 10-15 votes on anything these days on Meta [02:06:28] Meta is not what it once was as a representation of global inputs [02:07:27] [1/3] I am guessing you want the `There is text here and it is on your screen` part to actually be a parameter, where people can put their own text instead? If true, you want to replace it with, probably in this case, with the simplicity of it, just an anonymous parameter, so replace that part then with just `{{{1}}}`. Then, for the sake of the examples I am gonna [02:07:27] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b1 [02:07:27] [2/3] assume the Template page itself is called `Template:Note` whenever someone calls that template they can do `{{Note|This is a character}}`, and the template will be transcluded but with the `{{{1}}}` part replaced with `This is a character` on the page where you transclude it. [02:07:27] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Note [02:07:28] [3/3] Also see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates for more info on how templates works in general [02:08:13] stupid bot xD [02:09:33] Pro-tip you may already know, if you're the discord-side instigator, the 🗑️ emoji will cause the bot to delete the duped link. [02:09:38] But only on non-relay messages [02:10:17] The bot, it's dumb sometimes. 😅 [02:12:39] Gummiel, yes, somebody on my discord is helping me now with parameterizing it [02:12:51] yeah I sort of know (except I always forget the name of that emoji... like bin, or trashcan or something like that would be a better name for it...), though in this case someone (I geuss you), did it so fast I barely had time to notice the discord side bot, doing anything xD [02:13:22] i haven't made templates in years so I am badly out of touch, and also not a coder by training [02:13:29] but Saarlacfunkel is helping me now, thanks [02:14:29] cool, good to know 🙂 (Have to admit it been a long enough I had to quickly lookup what kind of brackets to use for template calls for that message :ManyHappyLaughs: [02:25:38] 522 yaaaaaay [04:24:28] [1/2] any way to remove the "Help about MediaWiki" link on the side of my wiki? [04:24:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1312997792087674900/image.png?ex=674e87fb&is=674d367b&hm=3873291bfbd4711652f3f5116702fe9a39553e82f38e3cb6abd09773ff80e9b2& [04:26:32] mediawiki:sidebar i think [04:55:55] think this got lost in the chat [04:56:11] I hope it’s a relatively simple fix, I’m assuming it is [05:19:34] I'd recommend creating a post in the support channel with more details on the where and what of what you're trying [05:20:07] That's the sort of issue that requires more specialized knowledge and benefits from asynchronous help [05:41:06] [1/5] life is too short for vanilla js do it in jquery [05:41:06] [2/5] ```js [05:41:06] [3/5] $(function(){ [05:41:07] [4/5] $('body').append('
yeah/div'); [05:41:07] [5/5] })``` [06:08:09] [1/2] what class/id is this dark thing [06:08:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1313023884500668477/Screenshot_2024-12-02-12-26-12-48_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg?ex=674ea048&is=674d4ec8&hm=3aec9525d496deb21410d85fcf47fd2a84aa5b0eb534912f456b88bfea2f4e26& [06:11:55] got it [06:11:58] will try that [07:06:16] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1313038511430963210/image.png?ex=674eade8&is=674d5c68&hm=a1a4928a64a272f9491ab541bab444ac87df2ac0599b8980aa60a64d1904330b& [07:06:23] i mean that set me on the right patch [07:06:25] *path [07:06:28] to figuring it out [07:13:25] [1/3] quick question, I tried spoilering some text, but it doesnt work, and just pastes the spoiler instead of hiding it. I tried to use the example in the miraheze wiki, but it still only shows the text I want spoiled, without it even hiding it [07:13:25] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1313040309630013471/image.png?ex=674eaf94&is=674d5e14&hm=d129edf8f206f9a93ca4b126cadf1766bf3f436f3ee3c72caf21150c8071cad1& [07:13:26] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1313040309994651668/image.png?ex=674eaf95&is=674d5e15&hm=6b09fe4b6dd9875b8314e53d56d7f07afda24134eaadd0fd864942488d120791& [07:17:36] how do i make smooth transitions between pages like https://coasterpedia.net/wiki/Coasterpedia_The_Roller_Coaster_Wiki [07:21:47] damn [07:21:58] my issue I cannot find out how to fix [07:22:09] now it just doesnt appear the text, with no way to show it [07:23:13] thank you @canyada [07:23:38] i have succesfully implemented the bouncing christmas tree from https://web.archive.org/web/20030419050022/http://ever-profit.com/english/index.asp on https://chinafake.wiki/ because of you [10:08:02] is miraheze good [10:13:30] it is a good place to host your wiki [10:55:16] yes [11:02:32] yes [11:07:49] chat i need `help` [11:08:12] [1/2] https://jbcstudios.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Statistics.js [11:08:12] [2/2] i made this funny code with a combo of mine and my friend's effort [11:08:40] with some help from chatgpt to polish this up, and uh, it ain't working (works on repl.it for some reason (huh)) [11:09:32] [1/3] like it supposed to show this, not whatever this is (huh) [11:09:32] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1313099729197994016/image.png?ex=674ee6eb&is=674d956b&hm=19be74c68edb5a9e5ec7897e4c1d688c2d2492997b4fc4b8308af48a90e16c4d& [11:09:32] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1313099729491726366/image.png?ex=674ee6eb&is=674d956b&hm=8f3df2854c045dff5faf6f0ef05aefca2c284bcb1026524730ada2a459044314& [11:29:15] because miraheze doesnt accept roblox api yet [11:29:32] are there any updates on your phorge report [11:45:59] I'll look at that review now [11:52:15] approved [11:57:31] omg [13:01:31] You think moving to a discussion focused format may work better? [13:07:53] i made a request [13:07:55] like [13:07:58] a week or two ago [13:08:05] and its accepted [13:08:10] and its probs me being stupid [13:11:14] ? [13:13:31] i dont know at this Point. [13:13:53] me too [14:12:21] uhhh did miraheze become laggy all of the sudden? [14:12:42] im scrolling thru the utg wiki and its so slow when i scroll up and down [14:13:03] wait even my wiki is laggy huh [14:13:46] that should not be the case [14:14:26] could not reproduce on utg on my laptop [14:14:49] this also hints at client-side issues, as server-side issues should not impact scrolling speed for fully loaded pages [14:17:42] apparently its a bit laggy when switching between light and dark because of the transitions [14:17:54] i want to remove them but at the same time the transitions.,,. 💔 [14:18:28] its laggy for my wiki as well, so its my pc doing funny things [14:18:57] @snowstacked dawg almost all animations are laggy or otherwise suuuuuper slow [14:26:38] lesson learned: never transition backdrop filter ever AGAIN [14:27:22] phones tend to eat shit when wheres backdrop filter blur from my experience [14:27:34] backdrop filter blur, ouch- [14:30:30] I agree with you. We could do a mixed pool. Gathering votes on different platforms [14:32:58] is backdrop filter that bad [14:33:03] i love it [14:34:18] yeah it's sexy [14:34:27] but oh god is it computationally expensive [14:40:40] i feel like backdrop filter might be the cause of the lag 💔 [14:48:03] a discussion format is more what I thought rfcs were intended to induce, not sheer unthinking, drop once and done votes [14:48:15] since that obviously doesn't happen, a more overt format change would make sense [14:49:16] at meta's 'best times' participation was always critically flawed in this and the only times it has mustered truly notable participation was in existential crisis [14:54:35] Even then the reorganization was more of a vote then a discussion [14:54:42] Explicitly declared so [15:04:38] that one was heavily shadowed with urgency, it's understandable there would be some 'just make it so' in that circumstance in the best of systems [15:29:02] <.guardianx.> [1/3] is requesting Cargo / SMW a difficult process? [15:29:02] <.guardianx.> [2/3] I've been debating requesting it for a while but VisualData being in review kinda put that on hold because if it goes live, I think I would just use VisualData over Cargo. [15:29:03] <.guardianx.> [3/3] If the request process is simple though, I may just use Cargo in the interim and change if i need to / if VisualData gets okayed. [16:09:06] oh my god about time someone ported ia fandom to mira [16:12:37] This might seem like a weird request, but Mediawiki's default font puts an annoying diacritic on the "ſ" character that I'd like to get rid of. What's the best way I can go about this? [16:15:23] Requesting isn't difficult, but it does take people with the right buttons to sync up and that might take a bit of time [16:19:34] hello [16:19:51] person from jbc server (this porting has been going for like 2-3 months i think i forgot haha.) [16:23:31] do you mean it puts a different Long S? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_s [16:24:39] maybe is this one: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C5%BF [16:28:11] Yes that is what I mean [16:28:26] It's not the Unicode character, it's the font that Mediawiki uses [16:29:30] I think you can choose the font that you display on your CSS. Like Mediawiki:Common.CSS and Mediawiki:.css [16:31:07] I do quite like the MediaWiki font, it's only that one character I want to change, ȝ as well but that's less of a priority [16:31:16] Do you think I can edit the font by individual characters? [16:32:17] <.guardianx., replying to raidarr> Okay, ty! [17:05:53] [1/3] What's the default font for a page title on a wiki, anyway? [17:05:53] [2/3] Was just wondering because it's… not playing nicely with some characters lmao [17:05:53] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1313189408203210842/image.png?ex=674f3a70&is=674de8f0&hm=857b9305658b3f8283002ff0b5fd865669967e71560da2acf9d8003d6d50f286& [17:17:09] Noto Serif Regular [17:25:22] default fonts differ between skins tho [17:33:49] I'm using Vector if that helos [17:33:51] The old one [17:41:52] How the hell do I mass delete pages [17:41:55] These extensions are useless [18:28:59] yeah this is a user problem, not a tool problem [18:29:31] start with what specifically you're trying to do. I do find the mass delete to be clunky but you need to start with A before you hit B [18:31:30] I accidentally imported a load of shit from another wiki that I want to get rid of [18:32:45] that's going to be tricky but given a link it may be possible to use nuke to select the contents (I'm not particularly good with nuke so someone will likely have to fill in here) [18:35:14] Ok here it is https://archaeolang.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Nuke [18:36:08] [1/2] This New Zealand crap is what I want deleted [18:36:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1313212122263588935/Screenshot_2024-12-02_at_18.35.45.png?ex=674f4f98&is=674dfe18&hm=86f2cfa4c8f83752fae0fd6e10269adf1b01a8a3b0a62a2b8ac907c99d18f42c& [18:38:25] If you create a task on [[Phorge]] we can take care of it for you [18:38:25] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge [18:38:25] [18:39:03] Hello [18:39:09] yo [18:39:14] I have a problem [18:39:25] yeah, what is it [18:39:28] the new zealand crap can probably get nuked [18:39:36] oh no [18:39:42] don't nuke new zealand [18:39:50] just the crap [18:39:58] imagine the savings on sewage [18:41:43] Sorry but i write in french because i dont know english toi much.J'ai sans faire exprès retiré les permissions managewiki du rôle bureaucrate et je ne peux plus manage wiki du coup. [18:43:07] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12953 [18:43:44] is not my problem [18:44:50] I unintentionally removed the managewiki permissions from the bureaucrat role and I can no longer manage wiki as a result. [18:45:18] answer? [18:45:32] well, you shouldn't have do that [18:46:46] iirc you gotta leave a steward request for recovery [18:46:59] Ok thanks [18:47:37] But how i can leave a steward request(itm new to miraheze) [18:50:54] is there a limit on the amount of data (like gigabites) in a wiki? [18:56:11] there are no hard limits except "be reasonable" and not using the wiki as a file host exclusively, which naturally racks up file size [18:56:50] [18:57:08] beat me by about 5 seconds [19:18:37] Is there an estimate for when this wiki request will be reviewed/approved? https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/52071 [19:19:29] When someone reviews it, a few days at most [19:19:43] Wait, it looks like Nuke can only delete recent stuff [19:45:31] @agentisai hey, curious we’re you ever able to find the text based hcaptcha option on the panel or thing? [19:53:41] does anyone know why Discord embeds are not respecting WikiSEO titles? [19:54:30] Is this new [19:54:36] Ive been having some issues for like 2 weeks now [19:54:39] l;et me try something one sec [19:57:43] Is there a limit on how large a page can be? [19:58:51] I think mediawiki enforces [19:59:06] Read: wants to kill itself if you pass [19:59:41] So basically, anything larger than "slows down the visual editor pretty badly"? [20:01:01] You’re probably gonna suffer far earlier [20:01:15] I feel it may be 300k bytes? :cn: [20:03:02] So at least a little over double then (I had the visual editor slowing down on pages of ~125K bytes). 😓 [20:21:02] When you are previewing an edit to a page, there is a "Parser profiling data:" at the bottom you can expand, to see some of the hard limits, and how far you are towards them on that page. Though yeah many of them you will experience severe performance issues/long parsing times, before you even get close [20:23:54] There is a limit [20:26:16] 2,098,176 bytes [20:27:44] You can increase it from that up to 5x bigger in ManageWiki using wgMaxArticleSize [20:28:15] <_arawynn> o.O apparently that's almost 350000 words [20:28:34] The default already seems past a bad ide [20:29:02] It depends on the language [20:29:17] Some languages like Hebrew use up more characters per byte [20:33:46] Fair [20:34:03] Mandarin lol [20:34:16] Well that can condense more info per byte though [22:24:21] [1/2] Do you know how to change the links (to the right) on the Citizen skin? [22:24:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1313269554788434030/image.png?ex=674f8515&is=674e3395&hm=0d6883b82ae141bcabf7abaf50f8fa84ddd38829831264ba9d723fec13ff32a8& [22:44:38] it’s uh [22:44:43] MediaWiki:Sidebar [22:45:17] Thank you :D [22:45:27] np! [22:45:28] :) [22:45:45] Wait it's the footer though [22:45:48] Is that a footer? [22:55:23] That didn't seem to work. This in on the footer [22:57:29] Add ?uselang=qqx to your URL [22:59:12] ty [23:02:42] [1/2] Now? [23:02:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1313279205852844193/image.png?ex=674f8e12&is=674e3c92&hm=4d5eef0a5df763331ec03170d6c1f1cdd1ce8454556ae9184ae46a7c9317eaa9& [23:25:14] No to the page with the footer [23:27:27] Ah, thanks [23:50:11] @snowstacked major caveat for hiding auto and pure black mode, they'll still appear in Special:Preferences [23:53:14] that didnt work either 💀 [23:54:58] Find [23:55:00] Guh* [23:55:03] Does is change anything