[00:09:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to Guest60> No worries mate. There isn’t any official joining method, I like most people just showed up and started chatting. (Most of us are on discord but there are still actives members of the community who live on IRC, hi BlankEclair and MacFan4000)
[00:09:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> #offtopic / #miraheze-offtopic exists for general chatting too
[01:07:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <figoarto, replying to figoarto> https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1316207947067428974
[04:36:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> [1/2] how come I imported infobox from another wiki yet it's giving me this error?
[04:36:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316262375489409116/image.png?ex=675a685d&is=675916dd&hm=303c8b5e07df59051f7038030d98b51dd09f57e18db1d682acc4887c64ef04f6&
[04:36:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> I got it from here: https://runescape.wiki/w/Template:Infobox
[04:37:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> because they use a module
[04:37:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> you can jsut make your own with the infobox builder, publish it, and customize it by editing it
[04:38:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> I don't mind importing a module from them since I'm gonna need other templates anyways
[04:38:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> Do I have to import Module:Infobox too?
[04:39:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> [1/2] this was what got imported when I tried to import it
[04:39:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316262959848230996/image.png?ex=675a68e8&is=67591768&hm=bf6def8a09e7d8afcb6ba7c3df13fa25b2c82b9310e2e91de1b757957d5bd508&
[04:40:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> maybe you shpuld just import from a miraheze wiki
[04:41:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> it wants semanticmediawiki enabled i think
[04:46:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> Wikipedia infoboxes are overcomplicated w/ stuff wikis of lesser rank won't need in million years
[04:49:17] <Guest20>	 Hello - do you guys have any SLA?
[04:52:46] <BlankEclair>	 Guest20: not afaik
[04:54:27] <BlankEclair>	 obligatory IANAL, but this seems to be the exact opposite of an SLA: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use#5._Limitations
[05:03:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [1/2] Essentially yes. We will do our best (and that best is usually pretty darn good) in providing hosting with reliable uptime.  
[05:03:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [2/2] However, we're a free service run by passionate volunteers - the time each one can provide is both limited and variable, and as such we triage and solve what we can, when we can.
[05:03:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ruby.raven> hallo
[05:04:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ruby.raven> [1/2] is there a way to "automate" the Create Redirect extension
[05:04:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ruby.raven> [2/2] as I need to make a bunch of pages redirect to a single page
[05:04:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> well i mean you can do it yourself
[05:05:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ruby.raven> what do you mean 😅
[05:05:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> I'm not aware of a mass create function that could create a bunch of redirects for you, Auto wiki browser might get you there but would require some prompting
[05:05:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316269699742437438/image0.jpg?ex=675a6f2f&is=67591daf&hm=965ea7f266fb91911621e8cf81940933c2e49f1566bcfcc57e613d4a235135f7&
[05:06:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ruby.raven> oh thats what you mean
[05:06:07] <Guest20>	 It is now more than 20 days since I have created a ticket for importing new pages - it is our final check before completely moving our wiki to Miraheze, so far we have tested everything and we have decided to move our live/production wiki to Miraheze - my management is asking me every day for the update and I don't have any answers. Please let me
[05:06:07] <Guest20>	 know is there any eta in which you pickup my task T12907?
[05:06:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ruby.raven> i already have done that for the first set, but since im doing hundreds at a time i wanted to know if there was a way to do it easier haha
[05:06:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> ah
[05:06:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ruby.raven, replying to notaracham> thank you for this! will look into it
[05:06:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> no easier way i fear
[05:07:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> 20 days is definitely an outlier, I will flag this with our tech team to look into
[05:08:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> What does `<image source="image"/>` mean when it comes to infobox?
[05:08:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to nicks5503> image
[05:08:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> you can place an image
[05:08:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> like if I want the image source is my pagename.png
[05:08:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> how do I make that code?
[05:08:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> yes
[05:09:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> what
[05:09:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> [1/2] displaying this
[05:09:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316270541161758730/image.png?ex=675a6ff8&is=67591e78&hm=041fe999f41d0d5ffa04629e6946821970ee75a46f1f01ffeb3b7d354782351b&
[05:09:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> by placing that code
[05:09:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> you can use it with `|image= Image.png`
[05:09:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> Oh no wonder.
[05:09:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> thanks.
[05:10:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> can I code the infobox so that you don't have to hardcode image = .png?
[05:10:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> but instad make it image = ((pagename)).png?
[05:11:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [1/5] ```
[05:11:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [2/5] <image source="image">
[05:11:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [3/5] <default>{{PAGENAME}}.png/default
[05:11:08] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:PAGENAME 
[05:11:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [4/5] /image
[05:11:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [5/5] ```
[05:12:50] <Guest20>	 @notaracham thank you for responding - please flag with tech team to at least provide an eta
[05:14:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503, replying to snowstacked> I tried that but it won't work.
[05:15:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> It just shows blank even though that (name).png exists.
[05:15:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> can i have a link to the template
[05:16:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> https://artale.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Monster
[05:16:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> nevermind. it's working now
[05:16:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> I'm guessing that if the image doesn't exist, it just displays no image by default?
[05:17:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> Insted of giving a link to upload file?
[05:22:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to nicks5503> yep
[05:22:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> how long should i wait for the google SEO tag to kick in
[05:29:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kamidere> [1/2] I’m having trouble with the visual editor can anyone help?
[05:29:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kamidere> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316275536116322304/IMG_2292.jpg?ex=675a749f&is=6759231f&hm=60b4a2c877505838bdec15322a4434889a328c2e3f14df7727c0d912d86472ed&
[05:29:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> 😭
[05:31:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> [paralyzingshock](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1197806118366347264.webp?size=48&name=paralyzingshock)
[05:31:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ruby.raven> So, I have AWB running, i think im just missing how to set up to make pages that redirect to a specific page
[05:31:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> isnt that discussion page
[05:31:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> https://tenor.com/view/emoji-crazy-crazy-emoji-emoji-crazy-emoji-are-you-crazy-gif-17566518746599549444
[05:32:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell, replying to kamidere> uh, whats the page
[05:32:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> i believe that is a talk page
[05:57:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ruby.raven> does anyone have experience with doing [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Create_new_pages) with AWB? whenever i run the batch script to test, it doesnt seem to be deriving the proper name of the .txt file properly whenever i check the resulting log.txt
[06:04:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [1/5] how do i fix this issue where some of my template text go completely out of frame unlike citizen
[06:04:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [2/5] <https://utg.miraheze.org/Template:Gamemode_Icon>
[06:04:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [3/5] <https://utg.miraheze.org/Template:Map_Icon>
[06:04:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [4/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316284366967672832/image0.jpg?ex=675a7cd8&is=67592b58&hm=32ed53aec13f8de1011af699fa5e6444c8c0d158c9d38ebc064b4c24438c93f6&
[06:04:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316284367370190901/image1.jpg?ex=675a7cd8&is=67592b58&hm=6e743f9c58bffbd4175232e721a0abc10b32c28f8504ac7a61abbf61aaa87d61&
[06:17:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ruby.raven> huh i got it working :> nvm
[06:19:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada, replying to snowstacked> box sizing border box
[06:20:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to canyada> oh wow
[07:09:15] <Guest20>	 Can anyone please suggest me, since the ticket (T12907) I created is more than 20 days old, the XML file for pages and images folder are now old. Now do I need to attach the latest XML file again in the same ticket and put some comments in there or create a complete new ticket and attach the latest XML file?
[07:09:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> I would recommend attaching an updated XML
[07:09:43] <Guest20>	 In the same ticket?
[07:09:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Yes
[07:10:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Or edit the original post, replacing the XML file
[07:11:59] <Guest20>	 OK will do, so did you flag this ticket with your tech team and got any eta since if I upload the latest XML it will again outdated if not importing within few days
[07:13:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> I flagged it.  Our tech team is spread throughout the globe, so I'm not going to get a response since we last chatted
[07:16:17] <Guest20>	 OK got it - I will attach the updated XML file and waiting for someone to respond
[08:34:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <verdessence> need to hear some thoughts, do you guys do the first header `= this =` or `== this ==`
[08:36:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> I never use = since its equivalent is h1 which should only be used once per web page
[08:37:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> [1/2] also the mw wiki advises against it
[08:37:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316322834976346144/Screenshot_20241211_093607_Firefox.jpg?ex=675aa0ab&is=67594f2b&hm=7a614f7da10749156e95d5679c069f6e15339dea14f8fc7e73d698deb0a94f7f&
[10:07:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [1/3] can someone help me delete these pages
[10:07:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [2/3] <https://utg.miraheze.org/Special:Badtitle/NS200:Rag>
[10:07:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [3/3] <https://utg.miraheze.org/Special:Badtitle/NS200:Chiip>
[10:18:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to snowstacked> These pages do not exist
[10:18:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Badtitle states as much
[10:18:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> but they somehow exist
[10:18:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [1/2] like
[10:18:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316348476694593626/image0.jpg?ex=675ab88d&is=6759670d&hm=50aefb07ada77f6274353f23e2e3aa365bb392054856efa2690c1962d10a8395&
[10:19:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> hmmm. @MediaWiki Specialists Can you guys advice on this? Never seen that before.
[10:20:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cibryll> Kinda reminds me of some categories on my own wiki that no longer exist, yet they still show up on the page that shows all the categories. (Or at least, 50-something of them.)
[10:21:58] <BlankEclair>	 seems to be something from a formerly installed extension
[10:22:55] <BlankEclair>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Extension_default_namespaces#ID_200%E2%80%93299
[10:24:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> social profile
[10:24:37] <BlankEclair>	 neat
[10:24:48] <BlankEclair>	 you can reenable that, or ask on phorge to run cleanupTitles.php (or to delete them outright)
[10:28:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> i reenabled and deleted them
[10:31:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> however it seems userprofilev2 have broke
[10:40:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> now fixed tho 💪
[12:29:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mrmanty_> Any ideas on how long roughly to get a reply to a request?
[12:33:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to mrmanty_> wiki reviews are slow nowadays due to lack of reviewer, might take 3-5 days
[12:34:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mrmanty_> Thanks mate @theoneandonlylegroom
[12:45:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to kamidere> is that a fucking tv 💀
[12:54:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> I use = in only one circumstance, when drafting a page edition to copy into something existing; then I use it to start 'actual' content. Every other case, == first
[13:01:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I used first level once, in uh page that is partially transcluted to main page, and it has a portion in the beginning that shouldn't be touched, so it's easier to click edit button on that big header than click big bu
[13:22:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> how do I make calculations in infobox?
[13:22:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> Is it <datasource = {{1 + 2}}>, something like that?
[13:22:57] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:1_%2b_2 
[13:22:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/1_+_2?action=edit&redlink=1>
[13:28:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> there are parsers functions for such things but that's outside of standard portable infobox capabilities, you need to use <format> (or formatting?) or <navigation> tag to use usual template coding
[13:29:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> Yeah I built my infobox off portable but I want to make a lot of customizations
[13:29:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> [1/2] I want a calculation for hp / exp.
[13:29:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316396437873098823/image.png?ex=675ae538&is=675993b8&hm=43f1752f53ac4dab49706bd7b2675ea7ec7bb54c5b70f0fb870737992895aeb6&
[13:32:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> `<data source="{{{hp}}} + {{{exp}}}">` this maybe?
[13:32:48] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bhp 
[13:34:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> <Help:Extension:ParserFunctions>
[13:34:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [[Help:Extension:ParserFunctions]]
[13:34:13] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions
[13:34:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions?action=edit&redlink=1>
[13:34:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> damnit
[13:34:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [[mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions]]
[13:34:32] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions
[13:34:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions>
[13:39:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> Hmm, I tried `<data source="{{ #expr: {{hp}}} + {{{exp}}} }}">` but it won't work.
[13:39:40] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/_%23expr:Template:_%7b%7bhp 
[13:39:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> it still shows default blank.
[13:39:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to nicks5503> cause thats a source
[13:39:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> ????
[13:40:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> thats how you identify a parameter
[13:40:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> not how you format it
[13:41:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [1/6] ```
[13:41:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [2/6] <data source="hpandexp">
[13:41:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [3/6] <label>HP & EXP/label
[13:41:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [4/6] <format>calc({{{hp}}}} + {{{exp}}})/format
[13:41:04] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bhp 
[13:41:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [5/6] /data
[13:41:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [6/6] ```
[13:43:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> like I said, this requires a bit of fancier coding
[13:44:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> there's a PI coding guide, on Fandom
[13:44:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> since they developed it
[13:44:59] <Guest20>	 @notaracham - I have uploaded an updated version of XML file as discussed
[13:48:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503, replying to snowstacked> I tried that but it didn't work. 😦 It's showing "calc(HP} + EXP)" as the display. It doesn't show the final result
[13:48:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to nicks5503> send me the link to ur template
[13:48:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you need formatting for infobox to recognise figure brackets stuff
[13:49:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to snowstacked> there is an extra } after hp
[13:49:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to abaddriverlol> oops
[13:49:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> i think it also works for <default>/default
[13:50:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> https://artale.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Monster
[13:50:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> Even with that change, it still shows calc(exp + hp) instead of the actual result
[13:56:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> `{{#expr: {{{hp}}} + {{{exp}}} }}`
[13:56:16] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23expr:Template:_%7b%7b%7bhp 
[13:56:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> calc is for css
[13:58:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> it shows an error on the template, but it actually works for the monster itself.
[13:58:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> Thanks for help every!
[13:58:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316403788193464381/image.png?ex=675aec10&is=67599a90&hm=b55d7725a511d6d1ef83746f0ebfd7d820533bf3599f8cb0412823fc537f35cc&
[14:03:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to canyada> i frogot 😓
[14:05:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> What about formating the headers like centering it? is that css or html?
[14:29:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to nicks5503> css
[14:33:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to wm-bot> you should reall shut up!.................
[14:35:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503, replying to snowstacked> If I want to do other functions like centering headers, changing certain label colors, adding solid color to headers, etc it's all done on CSS right?
[14:35:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> or can it be done locally on the template?
[14:35:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> yeah css
[14:35:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> you can use templatestyles
[14:37:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> For CSS coding do you have to use the common.css or can you type that code through the infobox local page?
[14:45:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kingplaystation> man portable infobox really being a hassle
[14:50:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> I guess portalbe infobox is good for starters but it's not good for people who need to decorate their box
[14:57:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to nicks5503> [1/3] If TemplateStyles are enabled you can add styles for a template at the /styles.css subpage of the element, e.g. Template:MyInfobox/styles.css
[14:57:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to nicks5503> [2/3] and then import these styles with the <templatestyles> tags
[14:57:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to nicks5503> [3/3] https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TemplateStyles
[14:59:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [1/2] how do i prevent randomselection from choosing 2 same things
[14:59:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316419012267212890/image0.jpg?ex=675afa3e&is=6759a8be&hm=4445fe1f4a6c3ada6cabe8b718f2f7946f3a9661520930c361d80bdf803d199b&
[15:13:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> chat can we agree that this is dumb............
[15:40:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to nicks5503> it's not if you know CSS and template coding proper, but I guarantee it's more difficult to do classic infoboxes
[15:42:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gummiel> Yeah PI is far better option at any level of infoboxes for sure, but ofc you need to learn what tags can do what, still far less to learn than a traditional module or table based infoboxes would
[15:46:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to prabhasxd> ?
[15:51:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to snowstacked> that randomselection does that lol
[15:52:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> oh
[15:52:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> yea true
[15:53:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> i mean its doing its job though
[15:53:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> i just want to see if theres a way to prevent 2 same things from popping up
[15:54:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to snowstacked> you could write a module that does the same thing as randomselection and add a parameter that decides how many options are selected
[15:54:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to abaddriverlol> i cant write modules 💔
[15:55:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Is it hard to learn how to program infoboxes?
[15:55:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> and learn web coding? for someone who isn't a software dev/tech background
[15:56:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> Can I learn this in a day?
[15:57:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to nicks5503> infobox is a template, you need to understand how to make wiki templates
[15:57:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to snowstacked> then learn how to do it, it's pretty OP
[15:57:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [[mw:Help:Templates]]
[15:57:27] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates
[15:57:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates>
[15:57:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> HTML and CSS come in handy here as well
[15:58:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you can check source code of templates on other wikis, but again - if you understand what are you doing
[15:58:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> Yeah a lot of these other more advanced Wikis use modules for infoboxes, which can get really complicated
[15:59:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] modules is a whole other beast, it's Lua - a programming language on its own
[15:59:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] as SRD said it's sure op, but yeah gotta learn that proper as well
[15:59:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> Like basic template, I can kind of understand. it's just styling is a whole different beast
[16:03:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to nicks5503> [1/2] I can recommend TheOdinProject which I used to learn HTML/CSS a few years ago, it teaches you how to make a webpage from scratch. MediaWiki works different in many aspects like Wikitext, but writing CSS for a normal web page vs. for MediaWiki is pretty similar and knowing the basics of HTML is pretty useful as well
[16:03:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to nicks5503> [2/2] <https://www.theodinproject.com/>
[16:07:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada, replying to snowstacked> [1/10] ok my first thought was dpl3, second thought was wait that wont work with the way u have things set up, now that ive had an hour to think i think dpl3 can work if u want to do some finagling
[16:07:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada, replying to snowstacked> [2/10] dpl3 randomcount can pick, say, 6 random pages out of a category
[16:07:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada, replying to snowstacked> [3/10] and then u feed the pagename into some template as the output (format)
[16:07:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada, replying to snowstacked> [4/10] and then the some template is a switch thats like
[16:07:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada, replying to snowstacked> [5/10] ```
[16:07:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada, replying to snowstacked> [6/10] {{#switch: {{{1}}}
[16:07:13] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23switch:Template:_%7b%7b%7b1 
[16:07:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada, replying to snowstacked> [7/10] |Some Page = [[File: Image.png whatever]]
[16:07:13] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:_Image.png_whatever
[16:07:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada, replying to snowstacked> [8/10] |Other Page = etc u get the idea
[16:07:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada, replying to snowstacked> [9/10] }}
[16:07:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada, replying to snowstacked> [10/10] ```
[16:32:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> My wiki's infoboxes are HTML table based. I think I picked one of the harder ways
[16:32:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> raw html is generally the least advisable method on wikis, ye
[16:32:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> but it's an annoying subject and if it works, then hey
[16:33:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> [1/3] <div style="display:
[16:33:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> [2/3] <div style="flex:
[16:33:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> [3/3] Makes most of my infoboxes
[17:23:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> What advatages is there to pure HTML based infoboxes?
[17:26:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <luasucks> Can someone build me a good main page for my wiki?
[17:27:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <luasucks> I'm not sure if mine is good enough and would like to improve it. Any suggestions?
[17:27:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> [1/4] Hi, there. Could someone tell me the css code for centring an element? Not in a div. I tried ‘inspect element’ but got this: "The display: inline property prevents align-content from having an effect.
[17:27:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> [2/4] Try setting display to something other than inline."
[17:27:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> [3/4] There's no longer any ‘display: inline’ in my code, so I don't know where it's coming from.
[17:27:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> [4/4]  Thanks in advance.
[17:27:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to luasucks> What's your wiki about?
[17:28:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <luasucks, replying to jeanboulanger> Its about a fictional world called Grim Town, a writing project a friend and I were working on
[17:29:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <luasucks> I'm not sure the main page is good enough and would like some feedback on how I could improve it
[17:29:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <luasucks> https://grimtown.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
[17:30:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> I don't think there's anything I can do, but I wish you luck with your goal.
[17:30:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <luasucks> No worries, thank you
[17:32:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> How do I create a new main page for my wiki?
[17:33:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to jeanboulanger> [1/6] There are various ways to do this, for example you could use flexbox and apply
[17:33:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to jeanboulanger> [2/6] ```css
[17:33:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to jeanboulanger> [3/6] display: flex;
[17:33:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to jeanboulanger> [4/6] justify-content:center
[17:33:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to jeanboulanger> [5/6] ```
[17:33:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to jeanboulanger> [6/6] to the outer element to automatically have all of its children centered horizontally
[17:34:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> [1/5] another solution would be to set
[17:34:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> [2/5] ```css
[17:34:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> [3/5] margin: 0 auto;
[17:34:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> [4/5] ```
[17:34:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> [5/5] on the inner element (which doesn't work always though in my experience)
[17:36:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to abaddriverlol> If I send you my code, do you think you'll be able to guide me?
[17:36:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <luasucks, replying to aespectix> Do you mean you want to make a completely new page or reset the current one? I'm not sure about selecting another page but you should be able to edit the main page
[17:37:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to jeanboulanger> sure
[17:37:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix, replying to luasucks> I want to replace the auto-generated one with one I can customise to my liking
[17:37:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to abaddriverlol> https://avatarthelastairbender.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Mainpage/styles.css
[17:37:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316458977898401904/Element.PNG?ex=675b1f76&is=6759cdf6&hm=d6dd399b2447c3607827a1f70152db3771ded59da1ac511958855a467856daf1&
[17:38:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> The thing on aling
[17:38:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to jeanboulanger> The thing I want align
[17:38:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> above
[17:39:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <luasucks, replying to aespectix> I think you can do that by editing the one already there, if I'm not mistaken
[17:40:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to jeanboulanger> [1/2] You just need to add `align-items: center;` to the inline styles you have on this div to center the icons since it's a flexbox already
[17:40:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to jeanboulanger> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316459507009982505/image.png?ex=675b1ff5&is=6759ce75&hm=edeb1cac781ae291930488377e8972e7b40797c7a98415dce7c8e8df7939cb54&
[17:40:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to abaddriverlol> It tells me that align: inline prevents the code from working
[17:40:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> don't know why
[17:41:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to jeanboulanger> where did you add the property
[17:42:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> it works for me if I add it to the `<div style="width:100%;display:flex;flex-direction:column;">` so it's `div style="width:100%;display:flex;flex-direction:column;align-items: center;">`
[17:43:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to abaddriverlol> So I put that in the Template: Nations ?
[17:43:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> Or in the css?
[17:44:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to jeanboulanger> [1/2] well you put it there where you defined the `div`
[17:44:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to jeanboulanger> [2/2] Normally I'd recommend to put this either in the template styles or common.css but since that element is using inline styles already you can add it there as well
[17:44:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> Can I edit the layout of the wiki, and how do I do so?
[17:45:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to abaddriverlol> Okay
[17:45:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> Thanks
[17:46:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to jeanboulanger> no problem, if you want to learn more about flexbox and how to align things with it I'd recommend you to check out this cheatsheet https://yoksel.github.io/flex-cheatsheet/ where you can try out various property values interactively
[17:48:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to abaddriverlol> Thank you, it's great
[17:51:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> It worked
[17:54:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> How do I change the layout of my wiki?
[17:54:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to aespectix> What do you want to do?
[17:55:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> [1/2] Make this
[17:55:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316463415832739952/image.png?ex=675b2399&is=6759d219&hm=6ba591932e63c7864e1330567b95811efbd72603e66af7782ae17be23a9c96be&
[17:55:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> [1/2] Look more like this
[17:55:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316463494295457903/image.png?ex=675b23ab&is=6759d22b&hm=a46720e2c9253c5087b0b17c4a2fd5559b69b04e8d310c5a77921a3570f1db83&
[17:56:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> Using the Pizza Tower wiki as an example
[17:56:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> You can use css
[17:56:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> Use MediaWiki:Common.css for modifying appearance of you're wiki
[17:56:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix, replying to jeanboulanger> What's css
[17:56:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix, replying to jeanboulanger> where do i find that
[17:59:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to aespectix> [1/3] HTML, CSS - cornerstones of web pages, plenty of free tutorials online on that
[17:59:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to aespectix> [2/3] and wiki templates
[17:59:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to aespectix> [3/3] don't look too much at this wiki tho, it's too fancy, you'll confuse yourself w/o prior knowledge
[17:59:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to aespectix> In the url bar, the thing you are using for searching on internet, just after wiki/, write MediaWiki:Common.css
[18:00:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> Why can't Miraheze be more like Fandom? Sure it has loads of ads, but it was a lot easier to change how your wiki looked!
[18:00:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> https://pizzatower.wiki/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css Here the css of Pizza Tower
[18:00:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to aespectix> Far more restricted, also
[18:00:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> ...I don't want to have a wiki anymore.
[18:01:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to aespectix> [1/2] Fandom is limited that's why you think everything is simpler over there, it's an illusion 
[18:01:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to aespectix> [2/2] learn more and you'll be able to make much cooler stuff
[18:01:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to aespectix> Don't give up, it was hard for all of us at first
[18:01:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <luasucks> True very true
[18:01:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> everyone start somewhere
[18:01:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <luasucks> I'm getting to grips with CSS also
[18:01:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> But we all managed to to great things
[18:03:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] I started back when it was called wiki and learned most of the stuff by myself, back then it was more open to customization so cool stuff could be done all around
[18:03:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] now Fandom is very restricted
[18:03:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> How are image borders done?
[18:03:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> @aespectix You can't imagine how hard it was for me when I first started out. I asked for a lot of help from others, and I still do today.
[18:04:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to theburningfirethatscorchessouls> need an square image, like a sample for border, then handful of parameters
[18:04:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> W3C schools has it
[18:04:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> tutorial I mean
[18:05:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I suggest starting w/ simpler stuff, step by step
[18:06:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> How do I stop the name of a page from showing at the top?
[18:08:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to aespectix> With this: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:NoTitle
[18:09:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to jeanboulanger> don't read into installation part tho, you need to just enable extension on your wiki via Administration sidebar
[18:09:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to aespectix> [1/2] We aren’t fandom and don’t provide the Same service in the same way. We give freedom control, power, community consensus and no ads. Fandom gives ease of use and simple but limited customization, crushing SEO, corporate reliability. It’s a trade off for what you value. The people who host on miraheze find the things we provide and allow more valuable then what 
[18:10:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to aespectix> [2/2] they can do on fandom(including actual having a say in how’s its run)
[18:10:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> My 2c
[18:12:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to pixldev> I've never regretted leaving Fandom for Miraheze. Miraheze has allowed me to create wikis that I would never have been able to create otherwise and to do things that I would never have hoped to do before. The fact that it's totally free is also the greatest gift, thank you very much.
[18:14:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] I did that, but...
[18:14:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316468175721861231/image.png?ex=675b2807&is=6759d687&hm=ab47aa33eda9e3e2d86250e08b21c8dc6f06d9f6d5ee57be632454ba3f1845f5&
[18:16:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> And put NOTITLE on you're page
[18:16:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> You did
[18:16:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> okay
[18:16:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> refresh
[18:16:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> refresh
[18:16:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> same result
[18:16:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> extensions need a bit of time
[18:16:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> try purge button, it kicks cache harder
[18:17:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> nope, still nothing
[18:18:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to aespectix> it needs to be `NOTITLE`
[18:18:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> he did it correctly guys
[18:18:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> but
[18:18:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> is main page your only problem?
[18:18:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths, replying to aespectix> Learning CSS and HTML is a transferrable skill + you more you learn, the more complex things you can create
[18:18:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> I have no idea. I'll come back to it tomorrow, or maybe a week, or maybe never.
[18:19:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> on normal pages you want to keep titles?
[18:19:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Main Page is my only page.
[18:19:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you gonna have other pages later, I'm asking
[18:19:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> ^
[18:22:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Yes
[18:22:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths> To expand on what Legroom is trying to say - if you only intend to remove the title from the Mainpage Page, you can go onto MediaWiki:Mainpage-title and MediaWiki:Mainpage-title-loggedin and delete the - from those pages
[18:22:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix, replying to ghaztliousmoths> Oh
[18:22:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> yup
[18:24:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> [1/2] So I'm editing the source for MediaWiki:Mainpage-title. What happens if I remove the - ?
[18:24:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316470798852165662/image.png?ex=675b2a79&is=6759d8f9&hm=6489ca7e2e204f3e9b7a65d4cf1211512160b864cbd53e08a6c958d5102f420f&
[18:25:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to aespectix> the title on main page will disappear
[18:25:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> Hold on, I need to go eat dinner
[18:25:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> this is just warning that you are editing a "techincal" page
[18:25:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> only admins can edit them
[18:25:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> [1/2] No it didn't. You lied.
[18:25:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316471039361810433/image.png?ex=675b2ab2&is=6759d932&hm=ea41b48734645fe4451a8dd4aad7913fbae3ab038e49d1821634d64989679aa7&
[18:26:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to aespectix> please give it some times
[18:26:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> as I said earlier
[18:26:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths, replying to aespectix> you need to do the other page i said as well
[18:26:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths> MediaWiki:Mainpage-title-loggedin
[18:27:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to aespectix> Nobody lies here.
[18:42:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Lies, on the internet?  Who could do such a thing?
[18:42:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> What does "lies" mean?
[18:43:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to notaracham> Nobody lies on the Internet. It's a sumptuous haven of peace and love, protected from human vices.  Wait...
[18:43:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to rodejong> I should have said "is lying," maybe ?
[18:44:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> 😉
[18:45:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> I don't know if people make fun of me every time, it's frustrating. :ThinkingHardMH:
[18:46:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [1/2] That is the problem with only text, without intonation and facial expression.
[18:46:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [2/2] I was just pretending that "lies" wasn't in my vocabulary yet 😉
[18:47:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to rodejong> I know that the word means something else in English, so the remark wasn't completely unfounded.
[18:48:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> Maybe I was talking nonsense without realising it.
[18:57:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> No, not at all, it can be taken as Lying or laying, depending on the context. Don't worry about it. English isn't my mother tongue either. So I have doubts sometimes as welll. (Mostly when the youngsters start using all kinds of abbreviations.
[18:59:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix, replying to ghaztliousmoths> oh
[19:00:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> [1/2] IT WORKED! Sorry for doubting you.
[19:00:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316479640411439155/image.png?ex=675b32b5&is=6759e135&hm=5d96911770e556cbe4a3fe1be2b38df6cc456ceaf1625b74c8e1c2324354c327&
[19:02:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths> It's alright ^^
[19:05:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to rodejong> I was going to say that when I say something nonsensical, I usually realise it, but I've got a connection bug, so I'm out of luck. Thank you for your indulgence.
[19:15:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> How do I change the background?
[19:17:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> Just the colour for now
[19:21:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to jeanboulanger> You're welcome
[19:24:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to aespectix> [1/3] #mw-content-container {
[19:24:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to aespectix> [2/3]     background: [color name];
[19:24:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to aespectix> [3/3] }
[19:25:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix, replying to jeanboulanger> do i just put that into the source code of the main page?
[19:26:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to aespectix> In MediaWiki:Common.css
[19:26:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix, replying to jeanboulanger> is there a specific set of colours, or can i put in a hex code instead?
[19:26:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to aespectix> hex code is fine
[19:34:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sajkow> [1/2] Guys I'm not sure where the problem lies but there is a problem with site loading on the zen browser. Chrome works fine. Firefox works fine. I dont know maybe its zen browser itself problem but only on this site this problem shows. Just wanted to let you know.
[19:34:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sajkow> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316488197282467971/em1.gif?ex=675b3aad&is=6759e92d&hm=fce929dcc575d9890a958387936cae17c0025c7135664d61a8c9b7ba673476e4&
[19:45:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to sajkow> try clearing your browser cache or visiting the page in incognito mode
[19:55:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crazylosthismind> is it possible to have a custom user group on a wiki?
[19:56:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crazylosthismind> for example a group granting the permission to import pages
[19:57:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> yeah
[19:58:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crazylosthismind> can admins just create those or does a steward do that?
[19:58:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> admin, in Permissions page
[19:59:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> there's a fiel to create new group
[19:59:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crazylosthismind> Alright, thanks!
[20:00:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crazylosthismind> [1/2] uhh my friend isn't able to even though he's both admin and bureaucrat
[20:00:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crazylosthismind> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316494807207772231/image.png?ex=675b40d5&is=6759ef55&hm=b879e7c7371d5412418210ae08eb1aaf38f22c46e6ff93c4a3a39166daa81459&
[20:02:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> on new group?
[20:02:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crazylosthismind> where do i find that?
[20:04:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316495803753168968/2024-12-11_23_04_00.png?ex=675b41c2&is=6759f042&hm=05afc99a01c31c3f08ba37e4966f19267c3dd0367bfc2a77c68a511871e2ea42&
[20:04:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crazylosthismind> what's the name of that special page?
[20:04:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> Special:ManageWiki/permissions
[20:05:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crazylosthismind> Thanks!
[20:10:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theburningfirethatscorchessouls, replying to jeanboulanger> I am glad I moved to Miraheze and then self hosting
[21:42:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> does anyone know how i can get a custom background image for a catagory?
[21:55:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to theburningfirethatscorchessouls> Self-hosting is not free, is it?
[21:55:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theburningfirethatscorchessouls, replying to jeanboulanger> Own hardware
[21:56:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to theburningfirethatscorchessouls> It must require a lot more code and programming skills, I suppose.
[22:00:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> it requires investment either way, be it your time/knowledge and resources to do it free, or just putting money into it
[22:06:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> I mean, Miraheze does provide an interface. No need to code all that. Even if some code is still necessary.
[22:12:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> miraheze is infinitely easier in most circumstances for sure
[22:15:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> I agree.
[22:37:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abettername> I can't seem to get the "static" link that managewiki wants for the logos and favicons
[22:52:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abettername> every time I open the uploaded image I get a link hosted on my own wiki subdomain and not the static domain
[22:57:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <owlsight> question, can a private wiki that only i have access to for reference purposes become eligible for deletion if it ends up inactive?
[23:09:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> yes, it can
[23:09:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> though that is a rather long period, and essentially an edit or two a year can stave off deletion indefinitely
[23:25:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <owlsight> mk